What would happen if Salieri did not kill Mozart?

What would happen if Salieri did not kill Mozart?
I loved mozart, and salieri, but the italian was a bit envious of the austrian manlet.

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He didn't. Amadeus is a fine movie, but its plot is mostly fiction.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the movie is the adaptation of the play, indeed not of historical facts
      also, the 160min theatrical version is far superior to the so-called director's (actually scenarist's) cut, the latter having completely destroyed pacing, despite the glorious tits
      get the fanedit version, which is the only way to have the theatrical in 1080p

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >muh pacing

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this is true but I suspect Wolfgang would appreciate it. A lot of the "fiction" in the movie is based on rumors and folklore that accumulated around Mozart. for instance the whole thing about the patron of the Requiem being salieri pretending to be the ghost of Leopold, that's not actual what Mozart went thru composing the Requiem, but as it was "unfinished" and also very popular at it's premier, and the person who actually commissioned it tried to claim it as his own, Mozart's widow Constanze spread the rumor of a mysterious benefactor and Mozart's apocryphal claim that "I feel as though I were composing my own funeral mass." Not true, but the hype helped both put asses in the seats of benefit concerts arranged for Constanze by Emmanuel Sheckeneder, purveyor of the Friehaus auf der Wieder, as well as cement Mozart as the composer of the Requiem before anyone could claim it for themselves.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Mutts actually believe what they see in ~~*movies*~~

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do british people always sound rude, idk lord help me find peace in anons here like this one.

      >Salieri killed Mozart
      Mozart, a freemason, was poisoned for exposing them.
      He died on 5 December 1791, precisely seven years after his initiation into the masonic lodge.
      Salieri was later made the scapegoat

      Source mario bro?

      the movie is the adaptation of the play, indeed not of historical facts
      also, the 160min theatrical version is far superior to the so-called director's (actually scenarist's) cut, the latter having completely destroyed pacing, despite the glorious tits
      get the fanedit version, which is the only way to have the theatrical in 1080p

      Where can i find it?

      I'd like to take a moment to point out that Mozart literally wrote a song titled "Lick Me in the Ass."

      I know he is clearly /misc/ material.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        there are various fanedit sites and forums
        I think I took this one: https://ifdb.fanedit.org/amadeus-theatrical-cut-hd-reconstruction/
        search it on fanedit.info (take the theatrical one), and get it with jdownloader
        the sound is from the DVD, but it's better than a fucked up pacing, imho
        the scenarist is a retarded cunt who opposes the theatrical release on bluray, because he wrote the play and doesn't understand different media can't be carbon copies of one another
        on that movie, to me, the difference is blatant (I love the theatrical, and always end up looking at my watch with the scenarist's cut...)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          that seriously pissed me off as well. the new cut completely destroys the pacing. not as bad as coppola did with that redux shit, but close.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yeah, I'm a bit anal about movie versions, but it often changes things enough to be worth the trouble
            and you indeed can't always trust the director
            eg, Hills Have Eyes (2006), where the director himself recommends the very inferior theatrical, because otherwise, it wouldn't have had an R rating, and less people would have watched the movie
            yet the unrated one is leagues better (mostly scenes around the caravan rape and murders)

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              indeed. especially after the fuckery that coppola, lucas, and spielberg have been up to. just off the top of my head, the only good director’s cuts have been:
              - donnie darko
              - brazil
              - blade runner (the first one anyway)
              - the lord of the rings things
              and that’s pretty much all i can think of at the moment.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the first one anyway
                yeah, certainly can't trust studios either
                for Amadeus, they actually call the scenarist's cut the director's cut, which is a fucking lie
                for Alien (1979) too, for instance

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What’s Brazil about

                Is it scary or what

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it’s a terry gilliam film, so it’s weird. it’s basically a dark comedy about a dystopian society. in a nutshell, the government will grab you if you piss them off, torture and interrogate you, and charge you for it. so, while they’re torturing you they tell you to confess soon because your credit rating won’t be able to handle a longer interrogation. it basically follows a dude who works in the interrogation ministry that discovers that they got the wrong guy once because a fly got splatted on a file in such a way that it changed one name to another. he then gets targeted because the ministry “doesn’t make mistakes”. it’s great, shot beautifully, and really interesting, but the proper cut is fucking dark.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Hmm sounds interesting, need to think if I can cope with a dystopian film today

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it’s considered part of a supposed trilogy that also includes “12 Monkeys” and “The Zero Theorem”. if you saw those, you’ll know a bit of what to expect.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                the three are very different, both in tone as in photography
                zero theorem isn't even great, imho (the others sure are)

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it’s not my idea, but it’s an idea that’s out there. i liked the zero theorem. the story wasn’t all that great, but the world, performances, and general ambience were cool.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                THX 1138 is worth watching

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's existential horror, in a way
                think 1984, but an actually great kino, with surrealist/absurd humor (the best kind of humor) on top
                it's fucking great
                but the israeli producers thought it was too dark, and tried to turn it into a boring love story with a happy end, by recutting it behind his back
                and Gilliam had to humiliate them by showing his great, original cut to journos, and buy full pages in newspaper calling them out and telling them "let me release my movie!"
                which worked

                same thing happened to American History X, but we don't even have the original version where Dereck was supposed to shave his head back at the end
                here, they asked the retarded edward norton to recut it, flattering him by telling him he was so intelligent and talented (he's a good actor, but a naggerwitted retard otherwise)
                very sad, because the moralistic take prevents it from being a great movie

                >muh pacing

                yes: it's destroyed in the so-called director's (scenarist's) cut
                it's pretty crazy when you watch them back to back
                the original is great, while, again, I keep looking at my watch with the writer's cut

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks anon. I may watch it after all.

                it’s considered part of a supposed trilogy that also includes “12 Monkeys” and “The Zero Theorem”. if you saw those, you’ll know a bit of what to expect.

                Haven’t watched those but thank you

                https://youtu.be/J5nmxHjPuvY

                THX 1138 is worth watching

                Hmmm this looks interesting, thank you

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Stacy Keach, who plays a William Luther Pierce type "neo Nazi guru", prevented it from being a great movie, portraying him as preying on vulnerable kids for his own enrichment. utter slander.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Apocalypse now and Once upon a time in America we’re pretty good directors cuts

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they were both total dogshit. redux fucked up the pacing, turned kilgore into a goofball shithead, destroyed the feel of kurtz by showing him all lit up ourdoors in the daylight, and decided to check out in the middle to comment on french colonialism. it was a fucking disaster. once upon a time in americ is obviously some weird mkultra shit to see if a ringing phone can actually brainwash you. apparently it works because i actually watched the whole thing with it’s runtime of 957 hours and 32 minutes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah sergio and coppola are infamous with thier long cuts; fucking wops man lol they liek their film long like spaghetti.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                OUATIA is about kike mafia and how shitty they are. totally de romanticized. it's based for that reason. Italian gangsters are cool sexy rebels. israeli gangsters are weird pervy rapist assholes, liars and betrayers.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they can’t get that message into a run time that’s less than the time it takes to hike the appalachian trail?

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nice collection fren, beautiful.

              indeed. especially after the fuckery that coppola, lucas, and spielberg have been up to. just off the top of my head, the only good director’s cuts have been:
              - donnie darko
              - brazil
              - blade runner (the first one anyway)
              - the lord of the rings things
              and that’s pretty much all i can think of at the moment.

              There's also the twilight zone cut, where Landis cut the scene with the helicopter.... bad joke I know kek

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I think he would have appreciated this.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Fake

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Salieri killed Mozart
    Mozart, a freemason, was poisoned for exposing them.
    He died on 5 December 1791, precisely seven years after his initiation into the masonic lodge.
    Salieri was later made the scapegoat

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      go push a bunch of lithium up your cock you schizoid jizz rag.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >seething meme flag
        masons are huge homosexuals

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          push your flaggotry whining up your cock you i-don’t-know-what-vpns-are dog rapist. then give me your pin and email address.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >he ah dindu a nuffin

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd like to take a moment to point out that Mozart literally wrote a song titled "Lick Me in the Ass."

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He was a cheeky rebellious GenXer nephew to the boomer uncle Bach.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The movie is a complete work of fiction asshole.
    LEEL

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      🙁 Shut up it happened and everyone back then knew it, but they knew they had to cover it up.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Every moverino hecken has a story to tell

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's funny how in the movie Salieri says that he used his influence to put an end to the performances of "Don Giovanni," which is exactly the opposite of what happened in the real world, where he used his influence to try to leverage the work because he felt it was misunderstood by the public and the elite, who were too stupid to see its true value.
    I know the idea is to villainize Salieri as a character, but they could at least try not to make the character do the exact opposite of what he did in the real world.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah lmao it sucks how they turned an okay guy into a pure villain, they could’ve at least invented some fictional character.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's funny cause they portray Don Giovanni as a very dark opera, practically a horror show, but I've seen most of Don Giovanni and it's kinda hilarious. it's shocking of course because it begins with Don Giovanni attempting to rape a woman, and when her father intervenes, kills him. but it's kinda played for laughs. and it's followed up by one of Don Giovanni's recent conquests attempting to confront him, and he runs off and leaves his long suffering manservant to explain to the woman via song just how many sexual conquests Don Giovanni has had and just how little she means to him. it's a funny song. he pulls out a log book and starts explaining how Don Giovanni has banged hundreds of women in every country in Europe "and in Spain, one thousand and threeeeeeee" in a beautiful tenor. the second act begins with a happy peasant couple preparing their marriage celebration, to which Don Giovanni shows up, sees what's happening, and invites everyone back to his villa for a party, instructing his manservant to keep the husband distracted. again the scene is horrible and hilarious all at once with this total scumbag who's nonetheless somehow loveable in that rougish kinda way. just totally at odds with the tone that is presented in the movie. I'm guessing all we see in the movie is the final scene when Don Giovanni's awfulness catches up with him and he's dragged to hell, but that's after a solid 2-1/2 hours of laughs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >one-thousand and threeeeeeeeee
        Hilarious

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Meow meow meow MEOW MEOW! MEOW !! MEOW !!! MEOWwwww

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That movie was so terrible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >That movie was so terrible.

      It was an early open israelite attack on a white European cultural icon. At that point I was certain the israelites were pure evil.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Retard. They where good friends, even composed togheter

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’m looking for a film for cinema night tonight

    I never watched films growing up

    Making a curry

    So far watched lawnmower man and loved it

    Something like that Maybe or completely different

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The real Mozart wasn't an insufferable gibbering idiot like Tom Hulce tho. And of course he wasn't an intolerable israelitebag either like Tom Hulce.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >what do you know about sheet music
    >FIGARO

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That film slandered both Mozart and Salieri.
    His father dragged him all over Europe as a child, when travel was dangerous and unhealthy. He was sickly for most of his adult life.
    One recent theory is that he died from strep, which could have been easily cured today with antibiotics.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you think Salieri killed Mozart, then you know nothing of the veracity of that movie. Most of what you saw in that movie is not historically accurate with regards to his interpersonal relationships. Read a book.

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wasn't Mozart supposed to be like 19 in this scene?

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Hello anons. Here’s a little composition I wrote for this thread.

    https://vocaroo.com/1of4r0htRdc6

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's interesting that Tom Hulce in the movie doesn't look massively dissimilar to magnus Carlsen (the Mozart of chess).
    Respect top Magnus, but I'd rather be the Mozart of music tbh

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