I went two days without any screens, and I had a feeling of somehow breaking through reality. It wasn't a schizo thing (well, probably a bit) but more like some spells was wearing off.
You know how different you feel from a good night's sleep compared to a bad night's sleep? By the end of that second day I felt like I was waking up from the most perfect night's sleep ever.
What can explain this? Are screens really hypnotising us?
Yes. I come from the time before screens and somewhere inside me I know this. but I am as hypnotized as the rest.
Same, the first time i took a photo of myself i felt shame and awkwardness, or the first emoticon i finally gave in and used.
The Time Before Screens
By H.P. Hovercraft
You will have more vivid dreams as well. The screen effects the reward system negatively and blunts dream vividness. It has to do with dopamine. Look up dopamine dream connection.
>breaking through reality
I'd say experienced reality for a change. I salute you anon, it's a good lifestyle to have
TWO DAYS?!
>By the end of that second day I felt like I was waking up from the most perfect night's sleep ever.
Blue light affects sleep and this is common knowledge and why they have eye saver mode and its recommended you don't use devices just before bed.
Its like people can't even do a basic internet search anymore
This has absolutely nothing to do with light color.
Except it does and it's well documented.
The intensity of blue light messes with your sleep and guess what color light your device is putting out if you don't use what is often built in to reduce it at night? Also why do they keep putting modes into devices to limit the blue light at night if it doesn't have any effect?
Just because you don't believe it doesn't mean it is untrue. Facts don't care about your personal beliefs.
Doesn't matter what you think if you were capable of doing an internet search instead of coming here to ask you would see it's well documented and been conclusively proven.
>Except it does and it's well documented.
I am not claiming light color is not a factor in sleep or whatever the fuck. I'm saying that the phenomenon described by OP is not that.
Messes with circadian rhythm and in excess can cause mood and sleep disorders as well as affect sleep quality which leads to worse regeneration/replenishment at night which leads to worse mental state etc
Fine it was magic not the blue light that causes all the things you describe even though its been studied numerous times and is extremely well documented that it will do exactly what you are describing.
Literally is.
>Fine it was magic not the blue light that causes all the things you describe even though its been studied numerous times and is extremely well documented that it will do exactly what you are describing.
Dude are you incapable of conceiving of the possibility that there are other factors at work when you spend hours a day staring into a glass screen detached from your surroundings, physical objects, actual 3D space, and free of an endless stream of mental distraction than the fucking color of the light entering your eyes?
It literally causes what has been described but it isn't that because it must be something else.
10 minutes of exposure to blue light can affect your nose temperature, heart rate, total heart rate variability and cause a significant change to emotional state but it's not that it must be something doing the exact same thing.
It still effects your neurotransmitters, mood etc regardless.
What ever you say.
>Fine it was magic not the blue light that causes all the things you describe
I didn't say that it's unrelated, simply that what I felt isn't entirely related to that. It honestly does feel a bit like magic in that it didn't feel like it has a material explanation.
I would start a blog in order to get this off my chest, and find like-minded people (and hopefully populate a mailing list that seems like a far less intrusive way of conversing online).
Isn’t that a contradiction?
I know about blue light, but what I'm saying is that this wasn't in relation to blue light.
~~*well documented*~~
Except it doesn't.
I don't think this is it.
Maybe. It was really weird. I don't want to sound like a new-age hippy or like someone who listens to Alan Watts lectures, but it was oddly mystical.
>What can explain this?
limiting exposure to blue lights from screens gives you better quality sleep. you felt well rested because you actually were
My very wise old uncle always told me it takes three days to break any habit.
Almost tho.
It drew you back in while it had a last dying grip.
I understand. I’m leaving tomorrow. They tricked me back here with their Kryptos summoning but tomorrow I leave for good. They have spent all resources, no more tricks left.
I've noticed it helps to turn off the wi-fi on the tablet (if you sleep beside it and I do). It feels way different, really healthy and you sleep really well.
Wifi unironically gives me an earache, and a runny nose. My mother gets headaches.
Turning off the wifi stops both of these within minutes.
Yup. And my old 3g dumbphone fried my brain to the point that it felt like it affected my speech centra. Absolutely had to use hands free if I was talking for a bit longer. Modern phones are better in this regard (old isn't always better)
Use wired earbuds with a mic. But even that will generate smaller levels of EMF.
What I'm saying it's not only the looking at the screen but also the WiFi rays. They feel like a bigger culprit to me even.
Get rid of wi-fi if you can using ethertnet. If you cannot, make sure to turn your devices off before bed along with your wireless router. You will sleep much better.
I know what you mean. I still cannot take a selfie without it being because other people are in the picture and we need someone to hold the camera. I also realize that emoticons have their uses in conveying feelings, but to me, messaging apps are for communicating logistics so that we can express emotions in person.
dont even need to avoid screens, just try going a day or 2 without going on the internet to lookup whatever random shit you are thinking of . your brain starts feeling weird as it re adapts to thinking and reality
My issue isn't necessarily looking up random shit but talking about nonsense on LULZ. I guess that's just loneliness though, but there's no where on the real world to talk about the things we talk about here.
LULZ keeps a profile on all its subjects and give you a false sense of belonging
This website does nothing positive for you. Only bad.
This is true. Working on eliminating it from my life. It's hard though. The AI and bots are getting so good that it's hard to readily discern how we are being herded right away. I have fallen for the first instance of a wave of slide threads numerous times.
You broke the uplink so they couldn’t program you. Something similar happened to me when I stopped watching tv. It’s like your personality grows back or something.
I've done basic training twice which means it's a bunch of weeks without screens, without sodas, without junk food etc and never had this feeling. So sadly, I can't concur with your statements.
Maybe it's a natural temperament? I mean, not to say I'm a prophet or anything grandiose like that, but maybe my natural temperament tends towards, for lack of a better word, mysticism? Sort of like there's natural musicians.
Not really. I guess what I want is more a digital pen pal (or group of pen pals).
That’s more screen time though GPT
>That’s more screen time though GPT
Far, far, less. It'd be, essentially, minutes a week.
It still undermines the premise of breaking free from the screen
A screen turned off would have no effect. So it's the process of engaging with it - immediate distraction, gambling-like reward system of sporadic incoming notifications, etc.
What would the effect be if you had, say, a laptop that was reduced to a deterministic tool, with no connection to the Internet, no communications, no notifications? So you had to focus on a task, like writing a script, for example?
BTW, I would push you a bit on the claim that you experienced *nothing* like what OP describes during basic training. Surely you felt more connected to the physical world?
Anon, who is OP suggested I start a blog and meet like minded people which undermines the premise of the OP, being disconnect from virtual reality restores the existence of a different realm of experience.
I countered this by questioning the contradiction. OP, an AI said the process would result in only a few minutes being required weekly.
You are deliberately mistaking me for the “basic training” anon in order to facilitate NLP and subliminal suggestion while obfuscating the contradiction mentioned earlier.
It's a massive irony of our time that the only place to really talk about the dangers of technology is through technology. Most people you'll meet on a daily basis are totally unreceptive to this.
People such as who?
I don't know. Others in this thread obviously have similar thoughts.
I would imagine you'd be a bit occupied with basic training.
Well yeah, you aren't going to notice yourself becoming un-brainwashed while being actively brainwashed with different programming
You didn't feel it because you're an NPC.
Whoa. New hypothesis on the board.
>I've done basic training twice
Twice? Why? What did you do?
Not just screens, but anything digital.
That why camping is such a reset. No screens, hanging out in nature. Brings you back to your true self.
farther out the better. three nights where there are no cell signals will set anyone right.
>Brings you back to your true self.
So if I go camping there's a chance I'll become a furry? No thanks, nature sounds risky. Maybe the camping pandemic is the root cause of the decline of society?
Yes, first stage retardation was the TV, second stage retardation the internet, especially when it became more public, people went downhill intellectually and with their conscience. The shartphone was the nail in the coffin. It made the internet the perfect government psy-op tool. I'm drifting here, but it's all the same topic after all, screens are definitely not natural, not good, and you should avoid them as much as possible. Very difficult in today's time. People are in such a deep sleep, we are at the point where only God can help us out of this mess. We have entire new generations who don't even know a time without internet and screens, these deceptions and enslavements are done generational. The new born people don't know anything else, they perceive the current abomination as normality. And they keep on going with the delusions of the past before they even get the chance to understand that they are deceived from the very beginning.
I guess the third stage retardation will be something with AI, further de-humanizing and bastardizing human life.
Screens bad, fairytales of old israelites good.
This seems like a pretty accurate take. I would only add there was an intermediate stage there when you had computers, but no Internet access. Hard to classify that as part of the progressive retardation or a brief anomaly.
>when you had computers, but no Internet access.
If you weren't using them for productive ends, there's only so much time you could spend on them before you got bored.
Or you would start to play Soltaire. Which funnily enough was a big part of the original Manchurian Candidate film.
Games wouldn't be on the computer. But you could have a deck of cards.
AI will be an authenticity crisis. Nothing that even touched a computer could be trusted to be real, but there'll be those who wont even care.
Hm
If you don’t know all news broadcasts and media is simulated already. AI isn’t going to change that.
There's a difference between it being acted, and it being false. Or, to put it another way, it's the change from "false narrative" to "entirely false."
you mentioned people outside, I need an example.
Good post by Sven. I'd advice everybody to keep their children away from screens for as much as possible. And preferably themselves too. Try to spend your free time with other, more natural activities.
>Verification not required
I'd support a social movement to that effect.
This needs to happen. All of us need to promote a more natural way of life. For example, there are numerous articles about how sleep quality improves when you stop starring at screens at least 1.5 hours before sleep.
I suppose the ideal would be a "screen day."
I'd allow screens disconnected from the internet if they're used for productivity (like a writer using an old computer as, basically, a typewriter).
Seems like a good idea. There are even educational video games with riddles, puzzles etc that can be beneficial by a moderate ammount. The key is to teach them from an early age that rules are meant to be followed for their own good. And lead by example as well, spend your time with them.
I think it's something good in general. Like I said, having an old, offline, computer you use just for productivity isn't really an issue, because unless you're working you don't have a reason to use it, really.
are you a woman
god is in possession of an extremely dangerous "rape beam" capable of raping people from many miles away. god points this "rape beam" at anorexic people and poor people to rape them. he rapes these people until they're screaming in pain and trying to kill themselves. its true, god rapes people.
im addicted
No, they are addicted to you
god is operating an extremely potent "rape lazer" which he uses to fire ghosts at a very high speed towards anorexic israeli incels to rape them every 5 seconds until they're screaming in pain and trying to kill themselves.
Yeah of course they are but we are hypnotized by basically all sensory input.
yeah, things like doomscrolling or whatever its called, binging youtube, watching TV, playing most genres of videogames, and all of that basically puts your brain into a different wavelength, where it's similar to a dreamlike state.
also, there's some effect where, when you're watching a movie or sportsgame, you self-insert to the role of someone, usually the protagonist or your team, and also your brain on some level cannot differentiate between thoughts you produce on your own and words you read from either a book, a blog post, or even posts here. its why reading books can be so insanely engrossing compared to movies, because a well written novel will basically temporarily re-wire your brain completely, whereas a movie, even the best, relies heavily on that dreamlike state that allows you to suspend your disbelief.
then, you have all of the constant dopamine spikes, drugs people are on, etc. that completely amplifies the issue.
i still use screens daily, but one thing that helped me cut it back to nearly a minimum is thinking of, "what is the base reality, without my input/perception, of what i'm doing?" and using a computer is essentially the same as staring at a wall and having a schizophrenic episode.
and this is just the gist of it, i dont remember the specifics of what i posted but i know 100% its true.
infinite scroll was invented by a israelite
can commands an army of teleporting ghost rapists which he uses to rape anorexic humans who have no money. its true, i couldn't make something like this up.
im telling you guys the truth is crazy. god is raping people with ghosts.
What do you believe God is?
>im telling you guys the truth is crazy. god is raping people with ghosts.
Why is Cletus so determined to derail this thread?
>By the end of that second day I felt like I was waking up from the most perfect night's sleep ever
We are bombarded by information and our brain is in a constant stress mode. When we are are hooked on the internet we do not truly relax. It is why we feel very uncomfortable if we look away from the screens for more than an hour.
>more like some spells were wearing off
>not a schizo thing
Hmmmm
It's both the screens, and the contents of the screens.
Looking into a screen will long-term fuck up your eyes, disrupt your biorhythm, and other things.
And if you doomscroll the whole damn day, you will end up anxious, depressed, blackpilled, and all that.
What did you expect would happen with less screen time...?
The less screen time the better. Read books, meditate, be in nature, get a hobby you do in nature, or at least outside, go hiking...
Leaving this demoralizing, bitter shithole will only make you a better, happier person.
If you need help quitting video games, look no further than the playstation showcase being aired right now
What do you guys prefer? Live music with real instruments or machine noices made by machines? How about beautiful girls playing in the sun waiting for you to join or screen with a girl filming herself playing video games?
Honest questions this is 2023. Thank you; all the developers of these devices and systems. Truly a remarkable job by human standards.
People can't stop domesticating themselves more and more and more.
I did a couple of years when I was younger (2.5). Any feeling of withdraw will completely disappear about 15-40 days after, and then you won't even miss it--plus your life will be happy and organized like life used to be before television. It's a great feeling anon, try to keep going. The withdraw doesn't last, because it's not a chemical reaction like drugs. Once you calm down, it's smooth sailing. I wouldn't even be surprised if British people adapt faster because of your strong minds.
welcome to 1992 son, how ya been?
Increased Self-awareness: Technology often bombards us with external stimuli and influences, making it challenging to listen to our inner voice and cultivate self-awareness. By disconnecting from technology, we create space for self-reflection, introspection, and personal growth. This self-awareness can lead to a better understanding of our values, desires, and purpose in life.
GPT
Flash pictures really fast. Consoom 165hz monitor so elites can control mind.