This puts the fear of God into russians

You're severely ignorant about the defensive capability of a carrier group

There is no counter attack, Steiner does not hold the flank.
Es wird nicht gut kommen.

I heard the 4th scientist that took part in the khinzal project was arrested today

Why would you pose with the warhead assembly and not any of the fuselage of the actual missile?
Anyone getting trained by the US is going to have EOD guys screaming at the guy retarded enough to manipulate a live warhead.

>Im not an explosive expert though
Even a fucking amateur knows you don't pick up a live warhead that's almost as big as you.
I know Slavs are retarded enough to jump on old, live landmines, but even that required a significant amount of alcohol.

>hey, don't fuck around with that live munition
>it's not that big of a munition, though
nagger what?

You mean intact warheads, or damaged and now unpredictable ones?

>weve
1. That's alleged to be a Russian warhead.
2. Trusting a damaged munition that was armed is retarded. It's like picking up capped tovex that failed to detonate.

I didnt edit anything, its the first result in google when you look up kinzhal diagram
it also doesnt say its made up, it just says its edited to show where it would be, i.e super imposed

The schematics you can find on the interwebs that arent that one are all for the nuclear one, and it seems to be based off those
they obviously have different warheads

m8 the kinzhal is based on the iskander and they have much of the same internals

You got mad that he showed diagrams of the iskander, even though the kinzhal is just an air-launched iskander with a bigger booster. The BETAB-500 is an air dropped bomb and not a warhead, however the kinzhal has a 700kg kinetic penetrator of similar design. They're both designed to penetrate concrete.

it cannot be helped given the information diseneminated on the internet being rare, but since their design is similar and you can see how it varies the same spot as the kinzhal, you can make some assumptions
its also def not to the betab 500, look at this image and compare it to the image of him holding the kinzhal warhead

it still doesnt really look like a the batab 500
theres a clearly defined cone seperation on the kinzhal warhead that isnt there on the betab
the unedited one exists, and does differ from the 3 missle one i sent
ill include it next post
in both that image and the 3 missle image the warhead is def not in the nose cone, there is not enough room for the explosives it packs up there

show me a single kinzhal pic with mounting points on its warhead(lmao)
also stavropol crash was not a kinzhal, its the ShP model of the BETAB-500
there is literally not a single confirmation of what it was except the images that show that it was NOT a kinzhal
again, show me the mounting points on the kinzhal warhead(you are literally forced to pretend you believe this)
the entire "its on the inside" cope came from the mounting points being there lmao

the stavropol crash doesnt look like the betab shp either though, the cone is super well defined again

look at the warhead, its completely different, different degree at the tip

it still doesnt really look like a the batab 500
theres a clearly defined cone seperation on the kinzhal warhead that isnt there on the betab
the unedited one exists, and does differ from the 3 missle one i sent
ill include it next post
in both that image and the 3 missle image the warhead is def not in the nose cone, there is not enough room for the explosives it packs up there
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the stavropol crash doesnt look like the betab shp either though, the cone is super well defined again

look at the bottom of this one
its literally THE SAME klitschko is holding
also where are the mounting points on the warhead on ANY of the kinzhal pics?

stavropol was a BETAB-500ShP, no matter how many times you bring it up it doesnt change the fact that it was not a kinzhal
what makes you say its the schematic of a nuclear kinzhal? you literally made that up

jesus fucking christ, stop pretending to be stupid, i know you dont believe the shit youre saying
>MUH RIBBING
nagger look at the fucking angle of the warhead
also what makes you say the schematic is of a nuclear and not a regular kinzhal? dont forget to address that in your reply

heres another pic of the stavropol one for ref, feel like its better angled and photographed

jesus fucking christ, stop pretending to be stupid, i know you dont believe the shit youre saying
>MUH RIBBING
nagger look at the fucking angle of the warhead
also what makes you say the schematic is of a nuclear and not a regular kinzhal? dont forget to address that in your reply

the angle of the warhead in what way? The betabs have no ribbing present on either version across their entire bodies, while both examples of presume kinzhals do
theyre clearly not betabs

ribbings in the wrong spot though for that one
the ribbing comes right before and after the pieces of the betab in your image, while in the kinzhals theyre across the body and no tapering happens before or after them

also why cant any of you explain THE MOUNTING POINTS ON THE WARHEAD
imagine ever reaching this point in your life

that seems pretty simple
things have to be assembled and you dont want your warhead to jump around inside its casing while going hypersonic

are you implying you shouldnt fasten all the pieces of your missle down enough to keep them from moving?
Especially the warhead?
also see pic related, its consistent with both the missles, although it appears to be a bit blown out on the patriot one but it is there there
find me a pic of betabs with ribbings in the same exact spots as those two
and preferably with the ass flat too

I believe theres some part of it is mounted to the missle somehow, it isnt just sitting in there
I wouldnt think its secured to a mounting point thats attached to the inside of the cask of the missle, theres probably a bracket system on the inside

how come it looks like a betab-500shp and nothing like a kinzhal?

It certainly isnt the outside frame kf the kinzhal, but i have no clue how you still think it looks like a betab

I wanted the flat ass in addition to the ribbing, not just the flat ass. They also havent ever shown the distinct nose cone the kinzhals have, but i forgot to keep bringing that up.

>the ribbing is painted over
that would be a stupid amount of extra paint given how tall the ribs are in the crashed one and the patriot one.
>I made it up
I think its a reasonable educated guess
it doesnt even look like any bomb mounting point ive seen for the betabs and has both a countersunk screw hole and one that is outside the frame if we put the images together
surely a bomb doesnt need a redudent mounting point, that would fit much better inside the casing of a missle where you want to secure it
>distinct nose cone
Im talking about the one on the crashed ones, they clearly are a seperate piece and material. this hasnt been the case for any image of the betabs ive founs

how come it looks like a betab-500shp and nothing like a kinzhal?

you still did not explain what ass you pulled the "its the nuclear kinzhal schmematics" cope out of
and still not explanation why the "kinzhal" pics have mounting points on the warhead

show me a single kinzhal pic with mounting points on its warhead(lmao)
also stavropol crash was not a kinzhal, its the ShP model of the BETAB-500
there is literally not a single confirmation of what it was except the images that show that it was NOT a kinzhal
again, show me the mounting points on the kinzhal warhead(you are literally forced to pretend you believe this)
the entire "its on the inside" cope came from the mounting points being there lmao

im not sure what your point is
the betabs definitely do not have the same nose cones as the warheads found in the two relevant debris if thats what youre talking about

>being so retarded you don't realize that it's not the whole rocket the entire time making this image

That's a very silly metaphor, because we're talking about a situation where bullets are already being stopped and we're talking about hypothetical faster bullets

>Car is driving to location place pedestrians close to destination, simple as

Are you being stupid on purpose? The russian equipment that got upgrade packages are good, but they aren't able to provide them in large enough quantity

They aren't fighting even a fraction of NATO m8, there will be 1000 F-35s in service with NATO at the end of this year and not a single one is going to help ukraine for example.

This, NATO hasn't taken its gloves off, just you wait two more weeks until the real NATO weapons get there and Russia get blown the fuck out.

>This, NATO hasn't taken its gloves off, just you wait two more weeks until the real NATO weapons get there

LOL this is a bad joke

Dare NATO to send F-35s to Ukraine

It'll be the funniest shit

forget NATO
it's the US
the US has a functional and efficient global logistics train that secures its military might.

>No I said they can’t hit them when they’re on the way to the scs
Why not? China has a shitload of submarines, and they are building more at a really fast pace
>so they can’t prevent us from intervening with whatever their invasion is
What invasion?
> they can sink a carrier in the SCS but not after their landing party
ahahahaha, you reaally think modern US military could do a D-Day style landing mission? On Chinese mainland?
>are being swarmed with hundreds of F-18 and F-22s
Lets see them fight against thousands of anti-air batteries.

>have submarine defenses
This, carriers have "submarine defences", therefore submarines cannot touch them.
>I am saying they could prevent and destroy a Chinese d-day style landing invasion in the SCS
How? By getting into range of Chinese anti-ship missiles? And why are you so sure that China-America war would play out like that?
>Air defense on Chinese mainland doesn’t have the range to cover to the SCS
They don't need, they just need to defend their mainland and Taiwan.

>This, carriers have "submarine defences", therefore submarines cannot touch them.

you are wrong about that. The Submarine "defense" consists of other ships in the carrier fleet blocking the trajectory of torpedoes by positioning themselves between the carrier and the sub.. But they have to find the sub first

One or two ships of that fleet are designated subhunters but one does not simply detect a sub and by the time they do the torpedoes are already on their way.

>subs mostly don't do torpedoes anymore
being this retarded

>8 mounts
>2 mounts
>Weapons per mount 1

You know what that means right ?
They have 10 launch tubes filled with torpedos. that can target submarine and surface ships

>And the reality is still that they take 4 times as many anti-ship cruise missiles

32 missiles versus 40 torpedos

conclusion.. leafs can't math

>defend ego at all cost

you put emotions over logic.
NGMI

Since American carriers are the only carriers capable of carrying, and utilizing a complete strike package, yes, they absolutely have and onboard ASW capability. The MH-60R Seahawk helicopter is the current carrier based ASW platform, this replaced the S-3 Viking in 2009.

Listen Aussie bro, if the US monetary system goes belly up, so does any major assistance we might offer you in terms of your own defense, and you're a LOT closer to Asia than we are. You would be in big, big trouble if/when the USD loses world reserve currency status, economically, and militarily. 100% guaranteed.

If that scenario played out, and you honestly believe, that Australia wouldn't become a Chinese satellite at best, or at worse, have to defend itself against a Chinese invasion, then you are naive, because those bugmen see you, and me as the same people, and in many respects we are. God forbid the US ever withdraws militarily from Japan, simply for your sake, because they could team up with China, and will attack you first. Ntm your people would also become poor almost over night, following a US monetary collapse.

>The annual budget and the actual expenditure
The article refers to the actual expenditure.

I actually logged on for some of this copium. I hope you don't kill yourself after Russia is BTFO. I want to see more delusions like this. I'm feeding on your energy right now

>I actually logged on
oh look, the pro-hohol tranny is a redit user

what a low IQ retard
>the fact that they're in a stalemate with Ukraine is embarrassing for them
there's nothing embarrassing
US and co. prepared Ukraine for 7 years, switched it to 200k professional army, turned urban area in and near Bakhmut to a huge fortified fortress
Ukraine locked the borders for males since day 1, conducted over a dozen mobilization waves, literally grabs people from the street to feel the holes at the front
inherited lots of shit from the USSR: from tanks, armored vehicles, tactical missiles, planes, artillery, rocket artillery and shells and ammo enough for multiple wars; to all kinds of mobile medium and long range anti-air, second only to Russia's and China's, connected to US/NATO that tells them exactly when to turn them on (5000 of just S-300 missiles alone)
all of the elites were hired to fight Russia until the last Ukrainian, have their families safely in the West and a big area to get away if needed
all while Ukraine is twice the size of Germany and has big NATO borders
on top of that, the main strategy they are employing since day 1 is to move the army into big cities such as Kiev and Kharkov and use people as live shield, people who in 2014 every third had a relative in Russia
Russia successfully destroyed all of Ukrainian arsenal, then the Warsaw Pact arsenal, then is dealing with arsenal from more than 30 NATO countries
and much more
Russia hasn't touched Ukrainian infrastructure for 8 months since the start
even the government buildings in Kiev are still standing
wow, so embarrassing that Russia didn't turn Kiev into ash and have huge civilian casualties with which it wants to work with after the conflict

Its not embarrassing, they are getting experience for their professional army life americans did while being stalemate in all their conflicts. Russia has no more reason for a full scale was than Americans had against rice farmers and goat herders

Imagine being this detached from your humanity. Chill buddy, you're neither Ukrainian nor Russian. Why do you care so much? Go find meaning in your vapid life.

>Strategic hmmwv reserve

>the US would simply cease world trade
>china/russia/europe gets blockaded from african imports and resources
And how does the government pay those sailors blockading those ports ? Why do you believe there wouldn't be a mutiny, even by that vessel's commander ? And finally, how long until all those nations come together, and actually try to muster a defense, and sally against us ? How many vessels would defect to foreign nations ? What will the US navy, and air force's response be when The People take up arms against the government, who can no longer pay them, yet is still trying to direct their actions through orders, bearing no weight of authority, or consequence ? A monetary collapse within the USA, is probably the nation's largest threat, to actual national security.

P.S. Canada's as well . . .

i have a grim perception momentarily due to the current times
the population has been lulled into a deep trance.
all you say is a possibility and it's why intensive psychological warfare is operational against the US and the world's population

>all you say is a possibility and it's why intensive psychological warfare is operational against the US and the world's population
It is merely the tip of the iceberg, and the pentagon has seen it coming since 1971, and has been preparing for this eventuality, since 2001. I too, have an extremely grim perception, and foresight of the future, but we must maintain hope, if only through our faith in God. It worked for our ancestors in there moments of doubt, and pain on battlefields that span the globe. Why shouldn't it work for us, as well ?