28 thoughts on “Are there any jean brands that are comfortable yet fashionable? Selvedge denim is too stiff for my liking.

    • Anonymous says:

      I probably should have mentioned that I’m looking for a pair of jeans that are easy to take care of. I always heard you weren’t supposed to wash selvedge denim in a washing machine

      • Anonymous says:

        I never do, but a soak in a bathtub or a run to the dry-cleaners isn’t a huge deal. I have a few N&F selvedges and like

        >Selvedge denim is too stiff for my liking.
        that goes away in 2 washes anon its just starch

        said it really isn’t that thick. After one week straight of wearing them they’re a lot less stiff and by your first wash at 6 months they should be quite pliable. My 10 year old pair are floppy as shit and well broken in, the one I got last week was stiff for a few days but even now feels pretty good. They’re like cast iron pans, don’t go Reddit level of autist with them and you’re going to be fine

        • Anonymous says:

          Guess I’ll try that then. I had a pair of N&F jeans eons ago but didn’t care for them properly. Thanks anon

      • Anonymous says:

        the no washing thing was always sort of a myth. you can wash raws all the time and it still turns out looking cool. a lot of denimbros left the no washing thing in the 2010s and its pretty popular to completely forego it and treat them like normal jeans these days.
        i machine wash and tumble dry my selvedge all the time. stepped in dog shit and did it last night. even ran the machine on hot to speed it up.
        only things special you have to do is jeans inside out –> low or no spin cycle -> set a timer and don’t leave the jeans sitting wet in the wash after the cycle finishes.. which is how i’d care for pre wash anyways.

        to actually answer your question: the comfortable part realllllllly depends on your build. i could post more helpful stuff if you post a pic of someone roughly your build.

      • Anonymous says:

        I machine wash raws and it is no problem. Just don’t have other clothes in the washer with them the first couple times or they might bleed all over the place depending on the jeans.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lol they’re just jeans, just don’t throw them in the dryer unless you want them to shrink, or if you do, put them on low or no heat. People get way too autistic about the fades, if you don’t care just put them in the wash.

        • Anonymous says:

          after quite a lot of experimentation i’ve concluded the only 2 ways to heck up jeans with a modern front loader machine are very avoidable:
          – don’t run the spin cycle.
          – don’t leave your damp jeans in the washing machine after the cycle completes, dry immediately.

          and if you have a ghetto top loader or a cheap washing machine that tends to kill clothes you still have some ways to stop jeans from dying:
          – sit there & pull your jeans before the spin cycle, or stuff the legs with towels either one
          – wash your jeans with some towels or blankets you don’t mind getting dye on

          even if you manage to heck up you usually just get mild fade marbling, and a bit of hard wear will just fade right over it like it never happened.

        • Anonymous says:

          i’ve experienced a wide range of washing machines and i think it explains the autism, why some people are so anal ocd about hand washing, etc. modern washing machines are rather good but some washing machines destroy clothes.
          if you got a modern front loading he machine you’re not gonna heck jeans up.
          if you got a center agitator unit yeah i’d stick to the hand washing.

      • Anonymous says:

        >I always heard you weren’t supposed to wash selvedge denim in a washing machine
        You heard wrong, just throw em in there.

  1. Anonymous says:

    stretch jeans solved this years ago and are cheap. i like rag&bone which you can find on ebay or grailed for like $50 brand new
    >inb4 gays talking about polyester or whatever
    anon im wearing pure cotton underwear, the 1% nylon in the pants is fine

    • Anonymous says:

      Dude you are wrong, I had stretch N&F black jeans and a pair of 100% cotton N&F black jeans and not only did the stretch fade like shit, but it was noticeably a lower quality than the selvedge. This was also reflected in the price. Stretch is fine if you just want some casual wear but its nowhere near as nice as pure cotton

      • Anonymous says:

        >Stretchy shit is lower quality than momofugu Naruto $500 made by japanese grandpas selvedge le jeans
        No shit stupid

        100% cotton lasts way longer and it can be repaired

        I can afford new pants every couple of years just fine

        • Anonymous says:

          I compared N&F $167 Stretch Jeans (95% Cotton / 5% Elastane) to the SAME MAKERS jeans in the SAME COLOR, the $193 N&F 100% cotton. Less than $30 difference but a CLEAR difference in quality between the two. Stretch jeans are fine if you’re like skateboarding or something but don’t act like they look or feel as good as pure cotton

  2. Anonymous says:

    Co-opting this thread

    Guys, can we get a list of quality jeans makers under 200$ that are 100% cotton, and nothing but? I used to wear Guess all the time, but I am so sick of their jeans materials reading like a hecking obituary…

    • Anonymous says:

      Naked and Famous is probably the best known one, it’s available from a wide variety of online retailers. The average price is $200, give or take. Some are up to $400 and some down to sub $100 on sale. Most of their pants are 15oz or below, though, if weight is something you care about (heaver material = sicker fades but harder to break in). Of course, like nearly all of the companies above mall tier, they have one size for inseam so you’ll need to have them tailored for yourself. Tate and Yoko (website) has a huge selection and probably the easiest place to shop for them online

    • Anonymous says:

      japan:
      – japan blue
      – tcb jeans
      – a lot of jap brands like pbj oni etc have budget jeans you can find under $200

      america canada:
      – naked & famous (especially end of season sales on t+y etc)
      – unbranded
      – brave star
      – gustin

      europe:
      – nudies (widely available in usa + asia in brick mortar stores)
      – someone who’s actually from europe finish this part of the list pls

      china, indonesia, etc:
      – red tornado
      – sauce zhan
      – bronson mfg
      – sage

      mexico:
      – wrangler cowboy cut
      – rustler jeans

      mall:
      – uniqlo selvedge (especially non stretch, especially kaihara)
      – gap selvedge (especially kaihara)

      >that are 100% cotton, and nothing but
      all jeans that aren’t pre/world war 2 reproduction jeans are going to use polyester thread because its a lot stronger than cotton thread FYI. 100% cotton on the tag doesn’t include the thread used. if you want jeans that are truly 100% cotton and cheap the only option that is on my list is TCB jeans. be aware that stitching pops and comes undone much easier on cotton jeans so expect to repair them throughout their life.

      >can we get a list of
      i probably forgot some good brands in the price range i just woke up. if anyone wants to add to it.

      Naked and Famous is probably the best known one, it’s available from a wide variety of online retailers. The average price is $200, give or take. Some are up to $400 and some down to sub $100 on sale. Most of their pants are 15oz or below, though, if weight is something you care about (heaver material = sicker fades but harder to break in). Of course, like nearly all of the companies above mall tier, they have one size for inseam so you’ll need to have them tailored for yourself. Tate and Yoko (website) has a huge selection and probably the easiest place to shop for them online

      their core line is all like $150 i highly recommend the left hand twill.

    • Anonymous says:

      yeah but the weight isnt the only factor. how tight the twill is woven matters a lot too.
      example these jeans i posted have a really tight weave and a kind of armorlike texture

      https://i.imgur.com/CVtASp2.jpg

      japan blue is based

      at 14.5oz. they wind up being warmer to wear in the summer than some of my looser weave slubby 21oz jeans because of it.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Uniqlo has stretchy jeans. Ultra stretch or something. Skinny fit. To 99.99% of people out there jeans are jeans and they can’t tell the difference between blue pants A and blue pants B

  4. Anonymous says:

    I’ve had a pair of Baldwin Reeds for a few years that are still going extremely strong. It took a few weeks of everyday wear for them to break in but was entirely worth it, IMO. They’ve lasted 3x as long as any mall bought brand of denim I’ve owned and are no worse for wear. They’re the only pair of jeans I own and get worn most of the week. I’m considering buying a second pair of denim and will likely splurge on one of the jap brands. What I’ve learned as I’ve gotten older is that it’s cheaper in the long run to buy something quality since it will last longer and selvedge denim is one of those things.

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