Sick of being a product?
Think you have what it takes to do anything but whine cry about it?
Try it.
Sick of being a product? Think you have what it takes to do anything but whine cry about it? Try it.
Sick of being a product?
Think you have what it takes to do anything but whine cry about it?
Try it.
I use Zorin OS Pro - bought it on ebay. 1000x better than windows.
> bought it on ebay
please be trolling
Yeah, wtf?
Zorin OS Pro isn't free, but i got it much cheaper on ebay. Zorin OS Pro has dark mode and a lot of windows UI features that literally makes it feel like windows 10. Never going back now.
Oh, neat. I'm all for paid open source software.
You can't build good software on dreams alone, not if you want to compete with the big boys at Microsoft. I think it's moronic that the open source community gets so pissy about the concept of profit.
I'm confused, is this like secondhand product keys, or is it some dude selling pirated software? Like, are these eBay copies of Zorin originally purchased from the developers?
>I'm confused, is this like secondhand product keys, or is it some dude selling pirated software? Like, are these eBay copies of Zorin originally purchased from the developers?
Linux OS are open source and free, but you need to know some technically shit to get it to boot from the USB to your computer. I tried and said fuck it and just bought one and it worked. Zorin OS Pro is $39, so i'm assuming hes just reselling it, because he paid for it.
> you need to know some technically shit
Zorin Pro is paid, it is absolutely legal to sell open source software as long as you provide the source code and licence.
The question is, who would pay for something that you can download and install for yourself.
The older I get, the more I understand how one would be willing to pay a couple of bucks just to not have to bother fiddling with config files and what not.
But paying USD 39 to have a Linux desktop that looks like Windows? I can understand getting this for your grandma who will be confused if you so much as change the background color of her desktop. If you are a young guy and you are shelling out USD 39 because you think that booting from USB is "knowing some technically shit" I have some bad news about you and your prospects in the coming cyberpunk dystopia.
What about wanting to support the company?
This.
As Linux gains popularity (and therefore profitability), the competition will become stronger and you'll be able to vote with your wallet between distros. Until then, vote for freedom and transparency as opposed to convenience and abuse.
The market share for linux has doubled in the past few years. The outlook is good.
ayyo, shut the fuck up
people don't even wanna use linux while it's free
longnose cope
you're the one talking about getting people to buy an open-source software homosexual shill
microshit shill, kys
i use linux too but i don't shill about paying for it on /misc/ like a retard so no thanks
>As Linux gains popularity
It's already the #1 used OS, Apples OS is BSD, Android phones are *unix, most every server is as well
yeah but available builds of ios/android are poisoned with tons of proprietary corpoware
i'm referring to popularity in the consumer desktop space, where a foundation of user choice still has a chance to be built upon
>i'm referring to popularity in the consumer desktop space
As Virtual Desktops via HyperThreading has made gaming via *unix more easily accessible it really has ramped up consumer acceptance. With WinBlows dropping the ball hard with W10&11 shit and Apple not even bothering, the time is ripe
MacOS is actually gaining market share as well, it's just windows that's declining
>MacOS is actually gaining market share as well
Understandably, it's actually good under the hood so long as you don't care about gayming
ElementaryOS is linux for MacOS Users
Linux is free. You're paying some guy that packaged it in a skin
actually, a lot of work can go into making the os run properly and not crash all the time
it's to the point that the only viable way to make software that people are WILLING to pay for (i.e. software that is reliable and works properly) is to charge for it
>NOOO, you CAN'T just PAY FOR the THINGS YOU WANT TO BE SUCCESSFUL! That's EVIL CAPITALISM israelite STUFF! NOOOO!!
Grow up
>actually, a lot of work can go into making the os run properly and not crash all the time
This is what I'm worried about. I'm paid to consult on video meetings and regular interruptions look unprofessional. I use the raspberrian Linux on my pi for fun but I would use Linux as my main if I was sure a good reliable distro would work as well or better than microisraelite.
>reliable distro would work as well or better than microisraelite.
Linux is far more stable if that's what you mean, only time you have to reboot is for a kernel update and the only reason to do that is you need a cutting edge program that doesn't work on your current kernel which isn't that common
>actually, a lot of work can go into making the os run properly and not crash all the time
Never had that problem on any entry level distro. If you're too lo IQ to figure out Arch, there's many options like Ubuntu or Mint available. Paying for Linux is like paying some guy for a cup of rainwater.
>you think that booting from USB is "knowing some technically shit" I have some bad news about you and your prospects in the coming cyberpunk dystopia.
^^^ i like this snownagger
>KDE Connect
works great
>need to know some technical shit
Nigga you install Rufus and make a bootable USB it takes like 15 seconds
it makes installing any kind of software take 10 times longer than just downloading a file on windows
maybe if you don't know what you're doing, yea
>pacman -S package
>package installs immediately with no other user input
>10 times longer than just downloading a file on windows
huh, you can download it just the same through the GUI on linux
>I use Zorin OS Pro - bought it on ebay
>Zorin OS Pro is $39
>I used mint, but like zorin just feels fucking premium
>i'm bored of talking about the israelites.
oy vey!
>please be trolling
https://www.ebay.com/itm/185369205568
I use zorin core wayy better then windows
Was thinking trying Zorin.
It's it good or just hype?
anything is better than wandowe
retard couldn't figure out how to install ubuntu.
>Zorin OS Pro - bought it on ebay
>bought it
>because I'm a fucking retard
I'm a fucking retard
You poor?
Why would you pay for those extras? You really need the choice of desktop skins? Because all of that other stuff is easily had within minutes or unnecessary.
it's not just skins, it's the underlying technical configuration. they troubleshoot so you don't have to, as opposed to ubuntu/mint/whatever, which "just works" because they don't have the funding to make it stable/gppd
>they troubleshoot so you don't have to
It does not say that in the list. And besides, how would they? You grant them remote access? If so, that defeats part of the point of using Linux: privacy and security.
>Zorin
purveyors of globohomo art
many such cases
Yeah I'll be switching from Windows once support for 10 ends. I didn't mind being a product while I was also being served adequately, but Microsoft has lost touch completely.
I recommend dual booting now, so you can ease into it and be competent enough when the time comes.
You probably want two physical hard drives to do this. Windows Update has a tendency to delete your Linux bootloader otherwise.
Windows doesn't want you fucking NEETS in its basement anymore. It wants to turn it into a bar.
Is there any reason at all to use arch Linux
Eh... If you're into that kind of thing. It's about freedom of choice and ultimate user customization at the expense of your time (and possibly sanity)
>arch Linux
I've tried arch (pointless), ubuntu, mint, fedora (pointless), and zorin. Coming from windows, zorin is by far the best and my ultimate favorite.
Maybe I'll buy a copy, I'm getting a new laptop soon. Thanks for the recommendation
>fedora (pointless)
Its for learning RedHatLinux for Enterprise commercial use, shits stable as a table
>Its for learning RedHatLinux for Enterprise commercial use, shits stable as a table
I know, i took college courses and we used it, but its pointless unless your doing that.
>its pointless unless you're using it for the thing it's designed to do
you know what i mean haha, i was answering his question in terms of general use coming from windows.
>but its pointless unless your doing that.
If you're not using your autistic *unix abilities to generate income on an enterprise level I dunno wtf you're doing
I tried many different distros over the years Slackware, Debian, fedora, suse but on settled on Arch over a decade ago and been using it ever since on my main PCs. Ultimately Arch is not a beginners distro, but I find it superior in terms of it's flexibility and the superiority of pacman.
It has its flaws like anything else, but that's the beauty of FOSS; the freedom of choice
It’s the most customizable out of the box distribution, you get updates in real time and it filters brainlets because words on a screen is SCARY
Yes, but if you were autistic to care about those reasons you'd already be using it.
Soon AI will make everyone their own personal operating system with custom software that is way faster and better than anything else with no spyware or backdoors and the browser will automatically block pics of trannies like adblock does to adverts now
You seem to be very confused about who owns "your" computer and who the AI is going to be working for.
just run windows server as your local
I think you are mentally ill
why do you say that? Assuming that you know how to configure windows server... You can actually turn off all the telemetry, snitchware, and it doesn't come with bloatware.
>why do you say that? Assuming that you know how to configure windows server... You can actually turn off all the telemetry, snitchware, and it doesn't come with bloatware.
Funny you mentioned this. I currently use https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10 to shut windows shit off.
I'll check tpb for a cracked copy.
linux is free
If you aren’t on Arch or Manjaro then you’re basically a nagger. I will accept Artix, but I don’t care about your systemd bitching.
>If you aren't on TempleOS, don't even fucking talk to me, noob. If you don't drag your balls through broken glass just because you can take the pain, you are a PUSSY.
I bet you sit in the library and type netstat in your terminal over and over in hopes that girls will notice. Fag.
Fuck, I forgot about TempleOS. That is acceptable as well.
What the fuck is a ‘girl?’ Some obscure arm instruction?
>TempleOS
That shit take me back. God's chosen OS.
640x480 VGA, real mode single threaded hand written x86 64-bit assembly and HolyC. Like God himself intended.
>Install Linux
>Yeah this is going to be great
>blinking cursor
>Have to fix graphics driver
>Finally log in
>Have to download shit tons of packs for stuff to work right
>stuff stops working for no reason
>waste hours on terminal in hopes something works
>computer randomly restarts with no explanation nor anything in /var/ logs
Remind me why it's great? Or does my computer simply hate Mint Cinnamon.
that was generally my experience ten years ago, things have gotten a lot better now.
just install linux mint and let it do everything for you.
ps. disable secure boot because it is a royal pain in the ass.
Mint and Ubuntu are trash. Run PopOS. Gay name, based on Ubuntu, but actually works with Nvidia out of the box. Took no finagling around to actually get it working with games.
Zorin is design on ubuntu and for windows users.
Some of that still happens but it has gotten a lot better if you have the right hardware.
It's fine as a secondary box, just don't keep anything important on it.
True... during the Obama administration.
I must've done something wrong that didn't agree with, probably trying to figure out why ffmpeg simply refused to find mp3lame codecs for editing with. Who knows.
install LULZentoo fuckin' n00bzz
also, fuck fedora, ibm will give you free rhel dev loicense for learning it which you will prob need to use once your broke-nagger ass can finally afford an sr-iov gpu from nvidia and need another loicence just to load the fucking video drivers.
I can't send files to my computer from my phone with bluetoot.
You can . . . KDE Connect.
https://kdeconnect.kde.org
>KDE Connect
purveyors of globohomo art
many such cases
Well then suffer
Or just use a filemanager for android that has an ftp server.
Mint has Blueman, open it and make your shit discoverable
Have they fixed the extreme battery drain issue with laptops yet? I had absolutely no other issues with mint apart from that. And the one time that the sound stopped working and needed to install some other shit which really should have been a part of the package.
>just works
mint was the only distro I ever installed, as a dual boot. Used it for like 2 days then got sick of it and went back to Windows
linux is gay as fuck. I do appreciate the server stability aspect of it, but as a desktop user you're a fucking homosexual moron if you use it.
>server stability aspect of it
Yeah some of the most insane server uptimes I've seen were Linux servers, don't fuck with them too often though
linux is for poors, no thanks.
do you actually pay for windows?
like actually?
anyone who doesn't pirate windows is fucking retarded, like genuinely
no, i used a windows 7 code off an old laptop like over a decade ago and every upgrade to the OS since then has been free
you dont know any rich people and you arent a coder.
ok, soooo
you think we all use linux because we can't afford windows?
windows is literally free
you can "activate" it with a single batch file, or you can just not, and it'll still work just the same
All the rich coders I know have Linux. The only time they ever use Windows is for .net stuff. That is less and less relevant. Microsoft will likely just abandon the operating system stuff now that they have Open AI . . .
>Microsoft will likely just abandon the operating system stuff now
Not anytime soon, corporations using their Outlook/Excel suites is too extensive. They will integrate OpenAI into Cortana and make it so if you want ChatGPT you gotta install Windows
Their office shit is mostly used in the browser now. Switching costs for corporations aren't what they once were.
>Their office shit is mostly used in the browser now. Switching costs for corporations aren't what they once were.
sad part is, onlyoffice works so much fucking better, opens office 360 files and its open source and on linux, mac, windows.
>onlyoffice works so much fucking better
Excels team collaborative workflow and powershell integration for enterprise is where it's at, Nike for example compiles massive hundred GB files weekly to track & use all their data
>Switching costs for corporations
It's more about the boomer legacy systems already in place and the fact its more of a pain and trouble to switch to something new, then keep using a system that works and their employees already know.
According to what they are doing now, they are totally rewriting windows into the rust language. Same language used by
>Figma balls
There is a blast from the past.
I do need to switch distros..
Using a shitty old ubuntu because I'm a lazy dolt
If it works for you and it doesn't devour your data like a hungry whore, who cares?
My only real beef is multiple monitor and multiple audio device support is so weak.
>I admit it's still light years ahead of Windows or Apple.
Muti-threading on Windows literally never worked. I don't understand how anyone but people playing ancient games can still use it.
What Linux distro is the most like windows 10, I know nothing about Linux at all
Linux Mint
Mint, you'll nerve go back
Oh shit, so Mint 21 does go flatshit design? That sucks. I'm using 20.3 and the icons look how they are supposed to. So does the "start" menu button. Is there an option to de-globohomo the icon and window appearance?
i did prefer 20 but from what remember 21 had a fair amount of changes that made it more stable and secure by distancing further from its ubuntu roots
Just aupport VST3 and there will be an end to the horror.
If I could run Logic Pro on anything but a Mac I'd fuckin do it, sadly nothing even close on Linux - used Ubuntu for years before switching for this very reason
>inb4 Reaper bro
Kek no, learning curve to steep and it's got Down syndrome compared to Logic. Too fast with LPX to change gears like that
linux seems like a fun side project at the moment that doesnt have many real world uses. It's better to familiarize yourself with a windows environment since 99% of people use it and is more applicable to businesses than linux
100% of big tech is running on Linux, using Windows and Mac laptops as nothing more than terminals.
The best part about using GNULinux is knowing that women dont know how to. We should continue using GNU/Linux so that women always remember that they cant have anything good and open source in their life
Install OpenBSD, naggers
Windows sucks. Anyone who switched to Mac 15 years ago does not regret it. Mac is basically Linux too so if you ever want to go full open source, the transition is easy. The only advantage of windows is using old as engineering software or playing games that weren’t ported yet. But never forget that windows is a heaping ball of shit.
mac is all of the disadvantages of windows with most of the disadvantages of linux
furthermore, fuck off, appletard
You’re stuck in 2003 and you don’t even know it. Have fun setting up printer drivers.
i have not configured a printer in years
on the offchance i need to print something, i go to fedex and pay 14 cents
because i care about my mental health, you see?
i know what printers do to people.
no, they maintain operating system stability and push bugfixes and all that jazz. not actually fix it on YOUR end, but prevent the issues from happening in the first place. don't be retarded
printing is always free at a library
>The only advantage of windows is using old as engineering software or playing games that weren’t ported yet.
Yeah, I need to find a decent VM setup to play that shit from the early 00's. Modern games blow chunks as far as I'm concerned.
> Modern games blow chunks as far as I'm concerned.
One of the few silver linings of woke globohomo bullshit. Windows can finally be allowed to die.
world of warcraft classic runs like fucking butting on zorin - worked well on mint too. Can you imagine getting the zorin light os install? I need to try that.
butta
>muh games
Also, why are you so intent on shilling Zorin?
because its good? why not?
you're allowed to express opinions other than hatred, you know
because i fucking use it. why are you even here? All you've done, in this thread, is bitch and moan about others. Get fucking los,t dumb nagger ape. Don't fucking at me.
Just hoping you learned your lesson.
>Just hoping you learned your lesson.
What lesson? That you're a fucking clown? Noted.
That if you want to support people who give their software away for free, just donate to them. Don't be lazy and pay for something you can easily do yourself (downloading programs that the paid version comes bundled with).
I am now legitimately considering Zorin as my next OS.
zorin is okay, linux mint is okay, ubuntu is okay (you should turn off snaps on ubuntu distros which can be tricky for noobs though), fedora is okay, manjaro is okay. just pick one that works best on your computer.
personally i use endeavor os with kde, i also like fedora with kde
Boy howdy! The penguin is FAT!
Cause he's a fucking autistic neckbeard NEET piece of shit!
>Sorry it's a debian package
FUCK YOU
>Sorry it's an RPM package
FUCK YOU
>pip install your mom
>....ERROR
FUCK YOU
>conda install
FUCK YOU
>compile a makefile
FUCK YOU
Just give me a fucking SETUP.EXE file you autistic fucksocks! Fuck Linux in the neck!
>Just give me a fucking SETUP.EXE
kek - windows makes you stupid.
AppImage exists
.deb exists
>apt install x
You're unironically retarded.
I'm so sick of Microsoft anything. They're absolute pay pigs. Fucking subhuman trash. I just want to be able to musicbee, youtube to mp3, and control the glowy from corsair, asus products.
>youtube to mp3
Lossy audio into lossy audio?
Are you a zoomer retard who doesn't have any idea what lossy compression is?
>and control the glowy from corsair, asus products
I just answered my question.
i lIsten to britney spears, you think i give a fuck if my audio quality is slightly less good?
Nigga, I put them on my phone and play them on my 2006 car speakers. I don't give a fuck about loosey goosey.
>Nigga
Yes, you are a zoomer. This confirms it.
Listen, I want you to get off my board, and I want you to never come back.
>think you have what it takes
Nope I don't, used arch for 5 years and then gentoo with a custom kernel for half a year but recently switched to windows with some 6 year old loicence from when I bought a new harddrive and got a loicence for free from the shopkeeper. I use it to use photoshop without the extreme headache and fuss that comes with whine, that barely works, for my front end education, thank you for reading my blog
No need to try it, anon. I wake up to it every single morning.
I intent do become a freetard by the end of the year but I don't understand what a lot of stuff means like pacman and repos and sudo. is there a guide that teaches you everything you need to know, preferably with cartoon pictures?
sudo makes your command operate under administrator privelage, similar to clicking "yes" in the little popup box when you run an installer on windows
pacman is a command for installing software on arch if you hate yourself and want to suffer
a repo is a software repository from which you pull software
>a repo is a software repository from which you pull software
Yeah, no. A repo is a sick son of a bitch that promises to deliver software but fails nearly everytime at the last operation for no fucking reason and makes you spend hours tracking down dependency after undocumented esoteric dependency. Linux is literally Lucy positioning the football where you are Charlie fucking Brown.
how does stuff get into the repository? if I want to install a program on wanglbows I get it from a disc or from the developer's website.
My modem is non-free and so is the isp.
Is linux still bad for emulation
If you want security, you install linux and run windows 10 VM - that is also an option.
ZorinOS any good?
>ZorinOS any good?
No, they shill a paid product to people that provides nothing of value except some desktop skins for boomers, extra wallpapers, and pre-installed apps that you can easily spend a few minutes finding and installing yourself through the built-in software repository.
>a paid product you don't have to buy and can use the free Core version where you can manually install software that comes with the Pro version
Real helpful, thanks.
When you’ve been around the block you realize that most distros are just skins of each other. The cool thing about arch or gentoo you aren’t arbitrarily forced to use some dweebs preferences and you can change anything you want
its pretty based.
globohomo-inspired trash
Thats windows, zorin is anti globohomo windows shill
>zorin is anti globohomo
I use mint. Eat my shit paynagger.
Why do they all have the same flat design? Even windows does this i dont get it
Use Mint. None of that flatshit trend.
they have a lot of layouts.
>you have a lot of choice, anon. Look at all these flat designs.
what do you mean, "flat"
do you want your gui to be 3d y2k era retro-futuristic shit?
Flat is a design style. and yeah ill take y2k or whatever over what we have now.
I don't know, I'm kind of over the glossy finish. I just want my computer to work. I'm so glad we've managed to get past that shitty era where everything on the screen is screaming for your undivided attention.
I don't mind a simplistic artstyle when it comes to things that don't really serve an artistic purpose to begin with.
Idk if im going to use something for work or gaming I want to like what i see. Modern designs actively make me not want to use technology. But thats probably just me lol.
That "y2k" design, you can thank graphic design using Macromedia Flash for that.
But yet, still better than flatshit.
Ok
>do you want your gui to be 3d y2k era retro-futuristic shit?
Have you ever seen Windows 7? Or even 98?
zorin has the best looking xfce i have seen.
zorin pro has the dark themes
I used mint, but like zorin just feels fucking premium. I dunno
This anon benefits financially from Zorin.
We all benefit from the proliferation of for-profit, open source software
>We all benefit from the proliferation of for-profit, open source software
Not when it doesn't provide any value whatsoever.
Distro engineers spend countless hours on their product.
Just because others do it for free, doesn't mean companies shouldn't be paid for it.
Money rules. If you're not making money, there's no incentive to provide a good product.
then pay for it, homosexual, I don't give a fuck
ok
thank you for your permittance
>I like a version of linux
>share my thoughts, images, etc.
>WHOA?>!? YOU WORK FOR THEM??@?!
You're a fucking clown
>g-.. guys, Zorin is based and you should consider buying it too, also I-.. let's not talk about israelites please I'm tired of it
I could care fucking less. Continue using Windows. https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveywinder/2019/08/28/microsoft-confirms-windows-10-privacy-investigation-with-a-4-billion-sting/?sh=7ba5b2917b1e
Imagine being Bill Gates and handing your company over to nepotistic Pajeets because you’re too hip raising your coal burning daughter
imagine being a giga billionaire and still wasting your life as ceo of some tech company
How is creating an empire wasting your life? He could have had 20 kids and set them up for 500 years to run all the world’s tech. Dude is selling vaccines on tv now. He might as well be the sham wow guy.
you do realize he still OWNS microsoft, right?
he just doesn't run it
he still makes hundreds of millions per year
he just hired some dude to run the company for him so he can go do rich people stuff
Google says he owns 1.38%. Is hardly say he owns it.
that means he gets 1.38% of all profit generated by microshat
there is no reason for him to ever work again
Everyone knows he’s rich. He’s just a cuck who wanted to be anti nepotistic but allowed mircrosoft to become a nepotistic company anyway, run by Indians.
i'm not saying he's a good guy
but i am saying that microsoft is quite literally not his problem
he can dump crazy amounts of money into charities and buy supercars and olympic swimming pools and never stop pissing money into a gutter and he'll still be financially set for life, no matter what he does (as long as he keeps his shares and microsoft stays strong)
Daily reminder (about the israelites)
(1) You should be talking about the israelites
(2) It's ok to talk about the israelites
(3) You need to talk about the israelites
If you understand what's going on out there, then this is your responsibility.
It doesn't matter if you're white, black, arab, asian or a spook, or anything.
We need to be having this conversation.
The overton window needs to shift until the point we all feel comfortable talking about
these hidden problems caused by the israeli people, specifically, who brag about it
and turn everyone against everyone else.
i'm bored of talking about the israelites.
What the actual fuck did I just watch?
we don't wanna play the israelite larp right now, we're talking about computers
Option A: be the product
Option B: be unproductive
Which is it?
>Option A: be the product-ACCKKK
>windows is expensive
>continues to but jetbrains ides/sublime text while the microsoft option is free
I'll buy a windows license and get both I guess.
The bad thing is that they'll also clamp down on linux if it gets enough normie attention
Linux is integrated on Windows and Microsoft is the biggest contributor to the Linux project
A unnecessary group, i.e. linux desktop version users have made this linux vs. windows 'war'.
If DE Linux really worked they wouldnt have this war
https://wpd.app/
IF YOU USE WINDOWS USE THIS AT THE VERY LEAST TO STOP THE CRAP SPYWARE IN IT.
I tried linux a couple of times, but I'm still posting this from a windows computer.
luv me ltsc iot
simple as
Installed Win 11, used it for a day, then finally switched to Linux full time. Installed a few different types, then settled on Arch/Manjaro.
Smooth OS, pretty, works well, easy to install and run.
Windows was a good OS for many years, despite people bitching about it. I used it starting 3.11, the noticible decline for me began a little while after 10 was released. It's obvious that windows is now completely geared towards absolute fucking retards; if I want my computer to do something my password should be enough.
Started going to shit after 7 at least. Some argue after XP