SCOTLANDS WINDWILLS RUN WITH DIESEL GENERATORS Posted on May 24, 2023 by Anonymous Climate bros I dont feel so good
Are these the same ones that have to be de-frosted with helicopter mounted flame throwers?
Pick a search engine and use it.
not exactly helicopter mounted flamethrowers but fossil fuel based compounds to get them unstuck and moving again in the cold
Fake news https://eu.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2021/02/26/texas-wind-turbines-power-outage-renewable-energy-fox-news-lara-logan/6835891002/
You pointed to one area. Texas. A small storm doesn’t call for deicing like is required in Northern Europe and cold climates in the US. But your dumb trolling ass knew that. Now, fuck off. You’re Fake news.
Read the article retard. It was a Swedish helicopter. Some dumb CUNT took the picture and said it was from Texas.
That's looks way less cool than I pictured
The ones that face the same direction and turn at the same speed no matter which way the wind blows.
I'm near a massive farm of these and on any given day at least half aren't turning.
The generator broke
The one I live near always causes stuff to show up on weather radar. The weather man says it is a temperature inversion that the radar pics up as rain.
Are you within earshot?
I went for a hike in an area with wind turbines and you can hear them from miles away, and the sound is pretty annoying
that's why nature invented tinnitus. just forget about moving back rural or be prepared to always have to play some audio in the background to keep it at bay.
Yeah they don't free spin. When you spin stuff really fast it's not always good.
Wind has to come from somewhere. Why not Scotland?
Nah it's just glycol they spray to blades as anti-freeze. Luckily it's not toxic or anything.
Yup. Have them all over Canada as well. The diesel is used to defrost the engine because if the props aren't moving then they don't make power. No power = heating the unit. Diesel is required to make them functional.
Same for all nuclear plants require diesel to cool the system since cooling must be independent of the power production for safety and it's the only reason most of all this old nuclear junk on the landscape hasn't blown up. Diesel secondary systems keep it all icy cool.
So what you're saying there's nothing wrong with fossil fuel, they just don't want you to have fossil fuel vehicles.
that's not what he's saying at all.
>cooling must be independent of the power production for safety
Fuck that. It works fine in Satisfactory.
I find no flamethrower, but here's helicopter chemical de-icing
>probably worse, environmentally
Looks like hot water stream power washer?
they could just put giant barrels of anti-freeze on every windmill and have the diesel generator running and a pump spaying them all the time.
we have to save the environment from the helicopters carbon footprint.
IS EVERYTHING WE ARE TOLD A LIE!!!!
You have no idea how bad things are
>You have no idea how bad things are
I can imagine, Anon...
Educate him on how bad things are then.
I would, but I've already lost half my sanity peeking into the abyss.
Just think about how incompetent 90% of the people are where you work. This is the case in every single industry. Government workers are probably closer to 98% incompetent.
I just attended a government scheme for unemployed old cunts and these 2 bitches who are likely on 40-50 grand a years did a marvellous powerpoint presentation, the first question was
>what are the benefits of being employed
I almost lost my shit, told them they were patronising us and said they could ask a 12 year old the same question and the kid would come up with the same answer
The reality is we were only there to justify the employment of these stupid bitches, I imagine there were a dozen meeting with a dozen other useless wankers on the government tit, the scheme likely cost millions, it was like the fucking Office or something. Also the bitch with the laptop kept getting messages from the Labour party popping up on her screen
Recently there was a top Austrian economist women saying that europe is fucked because there are too many people working for the state and the taxable populations cannot sustain them.
I never wanted to take money from the gov but they fucked my shit up with the covid bullshit so now I think fuck them
But, that's why they cut retirement hard and tried to jab you up with toxins. gubmints are kleptomaniacs and the bourgeoisie class is rising again. We all know how this will end.
Damn close. Imagine elites with a midwit's IQ telling their retarded underlings to execute their plans.
>Stain not stein
Still one of the biggest shifts
Not as big as your heart now being in the center of your chest instead of left
what? did they do that?
I know they keep accelerating the c-section births that eventually they'll try to claim the vagina hole never did give birth in the first place.
Yes and i hate it
Is that the same doctor who used to call vaccines a scam? Now she's become an electrical engineer too.
>used to call vaccines a scam?
Are you lost m8?/
>worse than dailyfail
>worse than the enquirer
/misc/ is getting even worse
greens are fucking crooks that need to be hanged everywhere
LOL, well these are the people that made it a fucking law to put toys in the pig pins...
What do you expect?
>the SNP being useless cunts
Wow what a surprise
>every single problem, contradiction, or inconvenience in any given country is the fault of its governing party
Fucking tories making my car get a flat tyre amiright?
Is it summer already?
That's because you can't cold start them. They need electricity to start up.
Just shows again that chemfuels are just superior. You can drink some, they have nice fumes, you can clean stuff with them, they keep you from freezing as long as you can make a fire.
They also need absurd amounts of oil to keep the parts moving. There's a tiny spill under each one.
>bro, make your fireplace full of started fluid! if it's used to start the fire then it must be better than wood
lol, sub 40IQ
I see people using lighter fluid to start charcoal and I feel bad for the people going to eat that fumey meal.
GET A CHARCOAL CHIMNEY
Don't tell me how to cook spaghetti, cunt.
Reminder that we are at dangerous level of co2 and are at extreme risk of killing all life on the planet if we do not raise them.
Checked. This anon knows what’s going on. See pic related. We are at historically low levels of CO2 in the atmosphere and everything that’s been added since the start of the Industrial Age isn’t even a blip on the graph.
Reducing CO2 levels is not only unnecessary, it could well be dangerous.
It's a bit awkward that more CO2 isn't inherently bad but too much of it leads to every living thing itself except plants being strangled
Not really bc higher co2 leads to higher oxygen production.
Except that at the times when CO2 was multiples of where it is now the world was warmer, wetter, and far more biodiverse.
It isn’t until you get past 10,000 ppm that CO2 starts having any effects at all. We’re currently around 420 ppm.
Plantae Master Race
You realise plants grow way faster, get way bigger and produce more oxygen with higher C02 levels?
Go look at how high 02 and C02 levels were when mega fauna and dinosaurs existed.
Half of pols user base is israelite worshippers who think dinosaurs are fake and fossils are tricks from belzebub to lead them to hell bro
you saying they aint??
No, they expanded over time, the fossils are just normal sized bones that expanded over time by absorbing water in the dirt and shiet
I like you leaf hehe, that's some good shit right there
why are canadian posts so good? Is there a school of shitposting there?
I figured it out: they want to keep CO2 levels low because higher levels means more oxygen which means bigger animals and...GIANTS. they fear the giants so much and are so afraid to wake them up that they rather prefer to kill the world.
>Except that at the times when CO2 was multiples of where it is now the world was warmer, wetter, and far more biodiverse.
They're a death cult. Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, makes more sense when you view the world through the lens of the Elite being a death cult that despises the flourishing of life on this planet. They don't want a warmer greener world with longer and more bountiful growing seasons.
>Reducing CO2 levels is not only unnecessary, it could well be dangerous.
That's the goal. The globalist fucks have been attacking the global food supply on every front. We're on the verge of a CO2 drought and they're trying to get us into it faster. With the frequency of CO2 releasing volcanic eruptions dropping, it's important that humans serve their useful function of releasing sequestered CO2 that nature can't utilize on its own for the benefit of life on the planet as a whole.
just survive, outlast, and try to enjoy the show. the meek will inherit the earth. the stores wont stop storing. even in a jericho/madmax situation, you will still buy things at a store for our generation is beholden to such concepts. No matter how much things change, they will remain similar to/for us.
>just don't look up and down and you'll be alright; onward frendo
>recursive CME's. corpses: they want us to bury our own dead
~~*They*~~ want to kill >90% of life on the planet. What part of israelite are batshit crazy, illogical, ontological evil did you not understand? They just want to exterminate white people first because they demons in their heads tell them it's their duty and on the off chance we find our balls again and actually show them for real this time in completely justified revenge and self defense.
if they wanted that they could just dump a few tankers worth of iron dust over some ocean hydrothermal vents and watch the planet enter another ice age
Retard. The phrase "climate change" was created at the Club of Rome in 1968 AND another Marshall Plan was proposed at this same meeting to bring us closer to an authoritarian hell.
Read it again
Oh he read it right, he just can't grasp sarcasm
We'll just build a giant fat fans and create wind???
BIG BUSINESS IDEAS AND BIG FANS! FUND IT!!
schizos were right again, they were wind generators all along, kek
They companies that build these things all know that it is a scam but they go along with it for the money.
All the politicians that promote these windmills need to face justice and serve time and be sued for the dmg they have caused.
they are all like bernie madoff - schemeers and scammers.
all wind turbines are hooked up to deisel generators for lubrication and deicing purposes
why would something like 1000 feet tall not require any internal operational structures?
people who come to /misc/ are typically very low iq
Here come glowie damage control squad
Glowie for me glowie!!
Why don't they power those processes by their own generated electricity.
Because the energy isn't stored in a giant Tesla battery in the wind turbine its already been sent by transmission lines and distributed for use.
he didn't ask how it worked, he asked why it wasn't greener and more efficient to use the electricity they supposedly produce to power the deicing regiment instead of EVIL FOSSIL FUELS
you dodged the question because you have no answer, admit it, shill
Because they don't produce energy they can use themselves dipshit, it has nowhere to store it to use for itself (no batteries) a the energy is produces is distributed. Learn a little about power transmission lines Tyrone.
you're still dodging or just dumb. if they produce ANY electricity then they COULD harness it to power the deicing stuff, based on waht you've said. so the question becomes, why did they decide they couldn't produce enough energy to the point they needed evil fossil fuels to do it. if GREEN = PLENTY AND CLEAN, then they'd have done it
either they can't because they aren't reliably making power, which would invalidate the publicly funded money they're lying to receive or they just didn't want to
i'm leaning toward what it always is, fluffed up numbers to support the green energy scam and they can't deice with green energy because that's how fucking INefficient it all is
You're just very dumb and don't understand that 1) generators are cheap and reliable and low cost and 2) a battery system to do the same thing would be expensive and have less lifetime durability
Simple fucking economics
If generatores are cheap and reliable then why even build the windmills then? You are just making an excuse without any actual logical reason to not use it, seems very odd.
It wasn't about diesel generators versus wind turbines, it was diesel generators versus battery storage to spin the turbine and warm it, learn to reading comprehension please.
your the one to bring up batteries, not me. The generated power should be able to power its own systems in real time, particular somthing as simple as genewrating heat which just neats electricity to run through a circuit with a heating element
The truth it that the windmills simply do not produce power reliably, and you are going to any length to obfuscate that fact.
They are essentially religious monuments to lure others of the same cult mindset to invest, its a scam
Holy fuck you're stupid. If the turbine isn't spinning because it's frozen its not making energy. If it doesn't have a way to store energy it previously generated (batteries) then it can't defrost itself. Hence diseal generators are used to defrost the turbine so it can start moving under wind power. You are a legitimate moron.
>If the turbine isn't spinning because it's frozen its not making energy
If it had been producing energy it would not freeze and require the generator in the first place. Why does the generator not have the same problem? Why do nuclear power plants not have the same problem? because they RELIABLY create power, you seemt o compoletely be missing the point that the system you are outlining reveals just how useless these thigns are
many of them are so innefective they are net NEGATIVES on the power grid. How are you still here justifying this, acting so smug while you explain that the windmills literally just sit there unable to even power themselves? At what point do you realize how ludicrous this all is?
Hey dipshit, as mentioned above. Nuclear power plants DO ALSO use diseal generators to power to the cooling system for the reactor. The reactor doesn't power its own cooling because that's fucking retarded.
No, they are powered by the grid, and have generators for emergency purposes, now you are outright lying, but even if that were true, generators to move water to cool a reactor is quite different than generators to unfreeze a completely unfunctioning windmill every time it gets below freezing
The grid is powered by the nuclear reactor. Holy fuck you're stupid.
>the grid powered the the nuclear reacotr
That is, and has been from the very start, MY ENTIER POINT
This is just becoming odd now, you are the one trying to justify external generators, yet now you are admitting plants use their own power to operate their own systems.
You have just conceded that i was right all along.
So what happens if the grid goes down duets the reactor having a problem and there is no generator? Now apply the same logic to a turbine that has been frozen and can't generate heat to defrost itself.
I honestly believe you're trolling now
You literally conceded that the plant powers itself off of it's own generated power for normal operation, somthing you started the debate saying is not done. you lied saying they use generators as part of their normal operation and then conceded my original point. Now i assume you are goign to try and adjust your argument but you literally already conceded, there is no reason to continue talking to you other than mocking you,
Address the point i made. Without an external power source (generator), what happens to the cooling system of a reactor unable to generate power to feed "the grid" the feed its cooling system? Does it workout does the system fail?
I am wise enough to know you seek to make a false equivalence between a emergency procedure a nuclear reactor will almost never need to utilize in its life with a standard operating procedure of windmills. There is nothing to debate as we have already resolved.
I would be equally critical of nuclear reactors if they produced 0 energy and required external power for an entire season every year, for i am not an ideologue like you have been, however they do not have this problem.
So to answer your pointless question: It makes sense for both to have back up power sources, however the windmill outright relies on that back up source because it is a poor, ineffective design propagated by ideologues like you who will make all manner of illogical arugment to excuse for their inefectiveness as opposed to improving them.
We don't have this problem where i live, and it is significantly colder here. your shit is just poorly designed
It's not a stand procedure, that's where you're completely wrong. The generator is only used to defrost the turbine when it becomes frozen just as a reactors generator is used in the event of a power failure. Your premise is entirely wrong
The winter season is a unforeseen emergency comparable to a nuclear meltdown?
It's not a whole season only a during the extrene coldest days, the generator powers on for 15 minutes to defrost and then it's back to normal operation. You're trying to make it sound like it's running 24/7 for w months of the year which just proves how retarded you are.
You are trying to draw equivalence between unforseen nuclear meltdown and a cold day. You are such a clown it is unreal. You are still trying to argue something you outright admitted is not true, shifting the goalposts literally with every post. Why?
No, you're trying to make it seem like the generator used to defrost a turbine consumes more energy than the turbine provides making turbines pointless. You're an idiot
Ive blown out every argument you have made and every single person who goes back and follows our conversation will see that and how you shifted goalposts and got mad name calling.
I think ending it on your totally made up strawman would be perfect end point. have a good one leaf
>if generatores are cheap and reliable then why even build the windmills then? You are just making an excuse without any actual logical reason to not use it, seems very odd.
See howstupid you are? Your whole argument is based on you thinking generators produce more power than the turbine itself and that we should just use generators.
You're not fooling anyone but yourself retard
I accept your concession, be gone retard
You wish retard
How does it feel losing so badly
Are you ever going to answer me?
If it's easier and cheaper to use a generator than the power generated by the windmill, then why even use the windmill period?
You went on about how smart you are and how dumb the thread is, but you very logic to jsutify the windmills is literally admitting they are less useful than a diesel generator? doesn't parse in my head.
I just answered you dipshit and you again proved your inability to read a sentence, lmfao.
You answered me with a strawman setting up a false dilema
You don't even know what a strawman is, you're literally retarded. Read the fucking sticky again you absolute mongoloid.
>inb4 ad hom
Your the only on doing ad hom attacks
>you absolute mongoloid.
Yes obviously, hence the >inb4 ad hom
You aren't white, are you? Beaner with very low verbal IQ?
Is this a joke? you say inb4 to get ahead of someone saying/doing somthing, not mock yourself for doing it, which you are doing again implying i am ESL.
Ive literally poked holes in every single thing you have said, you now have nothing left but ad hom, and literal lies like nuke plants relying on generators as part of their regular operation.
I am sure your poor showing here will help neutral parties here can see you for what you are.
Lmao, I said in b4 you start complaining about me calling you stupid, which you did. You're just exceedingly stupid you can't comprehend what was implied.
You literally just admitted i was right from the start, are you going to acknowledge that, or keep whining about ad hom which you were the one to bring up, not me lmao
But they are connected to the grid. Why not use electricity?
you'd put the diesel generator guy right out of business with that kind of talk.
They only deliver power to the grid, there is no transformer substation next to them to step HV back down for their own use. They COULD do it, but a step-up, step-down transformer substation is much more expensive than a diesel generator.
More expensive than the green energy? What's the point if you still use fossil fuels?
If you want it cheap you might abandon the whole idea to begin with. But you can't, because of politics.
It's not the cost of the energy, it's the cost of the initial materials. You're only running power to defrost them a few days for 15-20 minutes until the turbine is free. 5kw disel generator = a few thousand
Transformer substation station = tendon thousands
The price of diesel to run the generator = 20 bucks
The price of energy from the grid = a few cents
See where you save more money?
Greens are trying to set us all up as a "progressive example" to the rest of the industrialized world,at our expense. The main thing lacking is their determination to use force to make Asia comply, because they're pussy ass liberals.
inside the base of them we could easily install flywheel batteries, solving your 'no storage' problem
or put a little solar panel on top easy, hell make the blades out of solar panels yes!
and solar panels on the ground all around them
fuck yeah make the solar panels into windmills and the windmills into solar panels.
holy fuck I think you may be on to something here.
because that's not how industrial machinery is designed at a basic level, doing so means it stops working if anything goes wrong with any part
this should go without saying/be apparent to you, are you white?
i too have played modded minecraft
>Low ERoEI power generation theatrics
and we're the "low IQ" ones
Hey, you're a spastic, thanks for reading.
>people who come to /misc/ are typically very low iq
Your Momma is low iq, just look at her spawn.
You mean to say that they're using the wind-power to chemically synthesize diesel fuel r-right? A-anon?
I work for Scottish power networks and this is utter bullshit.
As usual, incels spreading fake news on this forum to make up for their lack of sex.
Take your fucking medicine.
>I work for Scottish power networks and this is utter bullshit.
Put your phone away and get back to scrubbing those toilets, Paki.
how much diesel did you have to pump today?
Dr Chud here, I diagnose you with being a massive homosexual and prescribe you infinite dialations starting right away
You are a London naggerisraelite and consequently your argument is invalid.
All wind turbine shills will get hanged from their precious turbines.
You won't do shit.
So you need diesel engine to produce windpower and this seems normal to you?
BTW no chance it will produce more energy than it costs to make it.
Does wind have any potential? I had a professor who said the future is going to be solar and nuclear, although solar has a long way to go.
Geothermal, lots of stored energy under earth's crusts.
Wind is a meme. You will never, ever get as much energy out of one of those things as you put into its manufacture, lifetime maintenance, and decommissioning/disposal. It’s a net energy sink, not a source. Even solar gives you a better ROI long term, and it’s shit too.
You can jury rig one to work pretty well out of scrap parts and its usually enough to power your fridge or at the very least your PC and a few lights.
For personal use it sure does, if it's cloudy it's likely windy and if it's clear sky it probably isn't (at least here). I use both for my camp (also hydro).
perfect for serving communities in ideal climates and landscapes, electricity loses too much on transmission to be efficiently transported ANYWHERE outside of a fuel-synthesis economy.
>Does wind have any potential? I had a professor who said the future is going to be solar and nuclear,
no potential whatsoever.
the future is nuclear and coal and to a much lesser extent, biomass
Tidal power as well but it's being severely hamstrung by environmentalists
Can't. Earth is flat and moon is fake.
>Earth is flat
>and moon is fake.
Also, Tides definitively disprove the globe model. Educate yourself:
earth is provably flat and stationary. space is fake and gay, the magical spinning cartoon ball earth is fake and gay. we literally live in God's snow globe and every decision you make has immense meaning and significance. change your ways and start living correctly. dont fall for the nihilism meme and dont fall for any of the religion memes. you can look at life as either a test or a game but whatever you do , dont look at it as meaningless. BE A GOOD PERSON AND LIVE BY THE GOLDEN RULE ALWAYS! also stop jerking off you pathetic littel squirtboys. fapping to porn is literally a demonic ritual you are partaking in.
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>Tidal power as well but it's being severely hamstrung by environmentalists
absolutely no potential whatsoever either.
Yeah you're dumb, tidal at a single site in my province is able to generate 62% of the provinces power consumption
Tidal power conservationists will emerge talking about how the moon only has 1000 years of orbital energy left before it breaks up due to tidal forces.
NG plants are better than coal. NG is cleaner to burn, has higher energy density, and plants can be spun up much faster for on-demand need.
>NG plants are better than coal.
NG will run out in a couple years. most of our NG comes from fracking, and fracking is a short term thing.
NG cannot be stored in large quantities on site.
When it is stored, it is dangerous and can blow up
Coal plants can store 3 months worth of coal on site. and these piles of coal are safe.
>NG will run out in a couple years
Imagine being this stupid.
Lemme guess were gonna run out of oil soon too
most of our natural gas is provided by frac wells. Frac wells have a short lifespan.
new Fracing activity is not keeping up with the depletion rates.
NG will get much more expensive and NG power plants will be turned off and coal power plants will be running 24/7 to prevent blackouts.
wind has giant pitfalls for one is not quite clear how large scale wind energy use could affect the local climate since the arguably dries out the air leading to less rain. Another problem is the use of coolants that are more damaging according to the green science and building materials like rain forest wood. Solar is easier but requires shit loads of land even a 99% rectenna would still require a lot. Particle accelerator based nuclear is the best way forward since we already have long experience with either tech and waste is reduced significantly and half time is cutdown from a couple million years to a couple hundred.
wait, is that actually true?
>we have an international housing crisis
>we have thousands of wind resistant, lightweight, non-recyclable windmill blades laying around
>should we repurpose these gigantic tubes into something like trailers, or tiny homes?
No use diesel construction equipment to bury them on somebody's friend's property to launder more money.
It's free if you're a shitskin immigrant.
Omg my VAWT uses petroleum products for lubrication therefor its not a actually wind energy its petrol based!
/misc/ needs a more difficult captcha, preferably in cursive to keep out zoomers
Wind is a hoax and it doesn't exist and you are all fake and gay
I used to love showing those pictures to climatards. Have you noticed there aren't that many climatefags shilling their bullshit here lately?
If you paid more taxes we could turn those turbines into homes for naggers in Africa instead of burying them. What are you some sort of bigot? Pay more taxes.
naggers are kangz n sheeeit, they can take care of themselves.
>burying ripped out blades from dead windmills to grow new ones
They are doing damage control for too many other things right now to shill for that bullshit.
They can be turned into attack helicopters and gifted to hohols
Why bury windmill blades when you can turn them into goyslop?
>Could be recycled
Yeah thats why they dump them all in landfills and then bury them
recycling doesn't exist
what they call "recycling" is them taxing the citizens so a middleman can pay a fraction of that tax to a 3rd world dump country to receive the trash
>recycling doesn't exist
Literal proof right now or STFU!
It's a startup as far as I recall and likely scam artists
>composite resin blades
Those fuckers had better contain a lot of delta-9 because that's not food.
Theres a guy on Youtube that made Hot sauce out of plastic bags, so i wouldnt put it past them. That being said it would take far more effort than its worth, which is why they just throw them in a landfill instead.
>that's not food.
Cool it with the anti semitism.
>harvest materials from the earth
>return materials to earth
What's not green about that?
Ugh burying turbine blades does NOT damage our environment, you fucking uneducated, unintelligent incel chuds!
Imagine making something nonrenewable and then transporting it with gas powered trucks but trying to convince everyone it's carbon negative even when you need to use industrial equipment running on diesel to construct thousands of them.
WE GOTTA SAVE DA PLANET
DON'T EAT THE MEAT
DON'T HAVE THE BABBYS
CUT OF THE BALLS
STOP USING THE CAR
SOMETHING SOMETHING CARBARONI FOOT PRINT!!!!!!!
The israelite fears the Savonius wind turbine.
>can torque start itself with any wind speed
>all the moving parts on on the bottom
>can utilize wind from any direction
>doesn't kill birds
Would. (But only if I can call her "mommy")
I love those things design looks more efficient and take less space
They are great for low wind speeds as a gentle breeze moves them well but a hurricane blows them to bits.
Now build it 300ft tall
nagger tier cabling, looks like satellite dish installations on a council estate
Daily reminder that for an Irn bru and a bag of crisps you could force your superior English shaft up this flower of Scotland's arse and stir last night's haggis
Thanks for posting this...if you hadn't, I would have.
iirc they have a starting engine to take them off the initial inertia
Why have dutch mastered to build engineless wind mills that start by wind alone? Did NASA borrow and lose them?
it's a function of friction on its axis, weight and other forces
like really basic high school physics
the average wind is capable of moving a small sail boat sure, but not a transatlantic
That makes no fucking sense, if wind is not enough to get the momentum going, then it's definitely not enough to keep it going. Basic laws of thermal dynamics n shiet.
>If a wheel can't start tolling by itself how can it roll down a hill once it's loving?
Fuck you slavshits really are white naggers
Your comparison is retarded, cannuck numbskull, go get stabbed by a punjabi or eaten by a chink.
You literally don't understand torque, potential or momunentum. No wonder your countries greatest profession is cleaning Paki toilets in London. Hears hoping Putin nukes you.
I despise cannacklefucks
anon, your school reps..
>how to inertia?
>the average wind is capable of moving a small sail boat sure, but not a transatlantic
It really must be hard being full retard.
>autist takes everything literally
You know those boats had paddles right?
When the wind isn't blowing they aren't sitting there twiddling their thumbs.
I don't even have a boat anymore but I have a couple of oars because I'm at sea level so if there's a tsunami I figure as long as I have an oar they'll be plenty of stuff floating around to use as a boat. maybe even some boats.
You're showing your 80 IQ.
We lied, those had diesel engines too.
you were warned about this shit
anyone still supporting muh sustainable green homosexualry is an NPC
>Generators briefly used to keep equipment warm during a malfunction
Okay, so what?
More than 1/4 of the UK's energy comes from wind now. On some days 70% of our energy is coming from wind.
Volound, you here??
Beneath every windmill is a well. I have been involved in so many of these piece of shit windfarms. They are not green in any way
Why don’t we recycle our plastic trash into diesel fuel?
I made a couple gallons in highschool for a science projects. It took two drums and some copper tube. I could have kept it going indefinitely by feeding fuel it made into the burner.
Sweden did it but they ran out if garbage and it became too cost ineffective to import more garbage
Wind was always a meme. In ideal conditions it takes like 80 years or something stupid like that to break even on the power consumed to build them. That's if they don't need any maintenance.
just put the solar panels and a windmill ON THE CAR.
problem solved. as you drive, the wind will turn the windmill and create more power!
and when you're sitting in traffic waiting for a vehicle fire to burn out, the solar panels will charge your car!
If you ever took calc and physics you’ll understand why this doesn’t “integrate” well into reality!
Tesla was right though, to this day we act like we don’t know shit about proton interaction with the EM atmosphere. Kinda gay.
Also, there’s no such thing as “free energy!”
This, but unironically.
we used to have SELF WINDING WATCHES.
just make the fucking electrical generation plant A BIG SELF WINDING WATCH!
and then we all have free energy FOREVER.
What they are good for, is if the grid gets broken down into smaller and smaller sections, because of some volcano or other blast, as a tertiary or auxiliary power source. At which point, it's a raw numbers game of how many you can put up, because you have 0 intentions on maintaining them. basically can keep a town of 50,000 afloat off the back of like 100 of them with some sort of storage ability and a traditional burner/peaker plant.
>unclutch everything. m'k bois. according to this function of how many started chooching, we have x years before we run outta power
>yes. green party is literally the doomsday preppers
>energy format known for being completely ineffectual, completely ineffectual
Uh, nagger, this has been going on since these were invented, though usually they are natural gas turbines. Good job being late to the party.
literally what is even the point? why not just keep them still? do they HAVE to be turning???
so they don't freeze in winter
the blades are actually number 1 function to serve as the flywheel for the diesel engine. this allows the engine load to remain relatively constant as the destination load fluctuates, and relieves and protects the engine from load stresses. It was only a bonus function that the blades could potentially be propelled by wind when the diesel engines go out as a semi-reliable backup source.
You guys are faggets. The article is fagget. Diesel-electric hybrids are white man's invention
I heard you needed to de-ice your wind generator with diesel once in december. Oh boy you sure you dont want to use gas instead?
their rotor blades are industrial waste that does not rot
Where did you hear that? You couldn't just be spouting memes could you? You ACTUALLY have facts to back up your claims right?
I honestly don't know what you were expecting
If I'd have to guess it's an american education thing. They put like six 400W panels on their roof and expect to run their homes 24/7 with them.
Evil spirits live in the wind.
They refuse to do it for free!
This Norf FC guys channel is quality if you're into alternative energy stuff. He has 3d printed wind turbines and gives away the cad drawings for free to 3D print them:
'Dozens of giant turbines at Scots windfarms powered by diesel generators. The firm said it was forced to act in order to keep the turbines warm during very cold weather.
Labour’s South Scotland MSP Colin Smyth said: “The SNP and Greens have proven time and time again they cannot be trusted on environmental issues. Whatever the reasons, having to use diesel generators to de-ice faulty turbines is environmental madness. This level of dishonesty cuts to the very core of the SNP and Green Government where their rhetoric on net zero is very different from the reality."
The chairman of ScottishPower, Spaniard Ignacio Galan, earned over £11million in 2021. He took home the massive package as millions of customers face being plunged into poverty by rocketing fuel costs.
Scottish Power was accused of “unfettered profiteering” after the energy giant raked in £924.6 million in profits during the first six months of 2022. The profits were announced as the cost of electricity and gas has soared plunging thousands of Scots into fuel poverty.
Other technical issues and environmental problems include:
Turbines left operating on half power for long periods due to faulty convertor modules.
Others in “test mode” where they take rather than contribute electricity to the grid.
Over 4000 litres of oil leaked from hydraulic units on turbines and sprayed over the countryside.
The whistleblower said: “Turbines are regularly offline due to faults where they are taking energy from the grid rather than producing it, and also left operating on half power for long periods due to parts which haven’t been replaced.
"Dirty hydraulic oil is also regularly being sprayed out across the Scottish countryside due to cracks in mechanisms. Safety standards have not improved since a worker was killed in 2017 at Kilgallioch wind farm.”
Those damn Spaniards ripping off honest Scottish folx
It's amazing, leftoids used to bitch about power plants being unsightly, then they do this shit. Pretty sure that picture is from cancerfornia on the road through Indio. Drove through there a lot as a kid. They looked interesting but I still thought they were ugly and half of them weren't even working.
fucking waste of space bird chopping gibs sucking pieces of junk scams
what counts is the net contribution.
I doubt the net contribution is negative because of a diesel generator but it really depends on the generator.
would be "bonkers" if net -0
would even be "bonkers" if 50% of net contribution is equivalent to diesel generator output/consumption
1) Diesel is not necessarily a fossil fuel. Biodiesel has existed longer than you have.
2) It has been known for many years that modern efficient windmills need to be deiced, just like their aviation counterparts.
t.stfu homosexual op
Guess its time to ban more short range plane flights
Holy shit you're telling me it was all a scam? I had no fucking idea.
There is more climate and environmental negative impact to these things.
Just to name a few,
1. Have to be replaced completely once in a while
2. The material can't be disposed of, so it is either buried or dumped somewhere. Over here they tried to create a playground out of the parts for children, not really a good idea, see point below
3. The ''mills'' have a thin toxic layer that over time releases very tiny particles into nature
4. The ones placed in the water disturb the sealife due to it causing unnatural vibrations in the water.
5. birds go splat.
>5. birds go splat.
it's actually rather surprising/alarming just how retarded birds are around these things. i figured maybe a dozen splat a year. OHNONONO LOL
I suspect the climate lobby will soon take a huge hit to reputation that it might be fatal.
all things considered, fossil fuels are superior. they are compact/dense, can be stored for a relatively long time if good storage requirements are met.
backwards compatibility with 100 years of motorized history so there is even a lot of recycling possible.
a lot of experience as well.
basically, electric can only overtake fossil if battery tech improves so much as to become cheaper and more readily available than fossil.
lithium batteries are not there yet.
for now, this whole climate push is 100% inorganic and is forced by governments with high subsidies because lobbyists and "green" business interest need to make money.
at this point its basically a forced scam.
again. as soon as battery tech becomes cheaper/better than fossil fuels, people will switch naturally.
that is what happened when oil and gas came along. coal powered steam engines then were gradually but certainly phased out in favor of fossil.
not because of some government/israeli forced memes but because it was a superior technology.
is this why my dad always called them the wind-makers
The climate scam is a globhomo conspiracy to enable the 4th industrial revolution. They use the climate hoax to force western countries to enforce legislation that bans gas emissions which results in banning ICE cars andshutting down farms. It only benefits to China who produces already half of the EVs in the world, they make all the batteries for Tesla, they make solar panels and wind turbines. China and globhomo companies like Tesla and Apple are the sole winners of this new deal. It won't save the planet, in fact these techs cause enormous chemical pollution in soils and rivers. It will cause famine and migrations because of food shortages caused by shutting farms. It's a declaration of war against humanity by the WEF-CCP cabal.
Wind turbines are fine for off-grid homesteads where it's part of your solar/wind/battery/generator/wood stove collective of heat and energy generation. For grid power it seems retarded. Just build nuclear plants.
This, except those vertical ones suck. It's all about the kt5.
>SCOTLANDS WINDWILLS RUN WITH DIESEL GENERATORS
If the production of clean energy outweighs the damage of diesel, what's the problem?
Welcome to the future!
The whole green energy program is a total farce. I wouldn't be surprised if it's actually more polluting than just plain old fossil fuels. It's certainly far less sustainable.
It is, and its gets worse. Its designed to fail, it does not and can not power civilisation save a couple of houses.
So, there was never even really the intention to have a fully "green" energy system. It was always going to just be a facade with fossil fuel still powering everything behind the scenes?
But if that's the case, why even push this stuff in the first place? What's the purpose of having a fake green energy system even if no one knows about it?
how much do you wanna bet this is the case for most if not ALL of these turbines? Maybe people should do a bit of snooping around.
I think this anon explained quite well why wind turbines are retarded
Yes but wind turbines will replace all diesel powered equipment and coal stations eventually if WE PRODUCE ENOUGH WIND TURBINES. Christ you chuds are thick.
yes, we depend on oil to do everything today.
from growing food to extracting minerals to heating factories and transporting freight.
will we have battery powered mining equipment and tractors soon?
it will take another 50 years to get up to the same efficiency if ever.
then there is all the talk about hydrogen. its the same story all over, storage needs to be high quality unless you want to blow up
that means its also prohibitively expensive.
nothing comes even close to the ubiquity, safety and low cost of diesel engines.
They have new blade designs now literally called RecyclableBlade, non issue
we need numbers.
how many kW are spent compared to how much is given out by the windmill during an average cold day.
do these engines sometimes run without the windmill ever giving out anything worthwhile for that day?
it raises questions but as always, its easier to make clickbait than to actually explain important things.
Internet was a mistake. twitter and twitter screencaps were a mistake.
hastily engineered wind power was a mistake,
government was a mistake,
taxation was a mistake,
wind power lobbyists and corrupt government officials who signed all this shit were a mistake.
education was a mistake,
covid was a mistake,
vax was a mistake,
vaxxies were a mistake
shit is bad bros.
The numbers say they never pay off the footprint used making them, during use of them, and the results after.
They are truly net negative in all fields
My best conspiracy theory was that wind turbines didnt make any electricity and just used energy to make them turn as a psy op for normies
Mine is that plus they want to kill all the birbs like Mao in China.
mine are both of those plus cast iron is actually SUPPOSED to go in the dishwasher.
Energy anons please help me out: couldn't we have a device in a desert somewhere that focuses sunlight from all angles onto a giant water tank to make it boil and generate energy? Focused sunlight can fucking melt a metal sheet, surely it should be possible to focus enough of it it during a whole day to at least generate some energy?
Also can't we build a station of some sort in space to make use of raw solar/space radiation? I get that retransmitting that energy back to earth might be a problem but surely we could come up with something, no?
They already exist, you can buy a small one for yourself for camping purposes
Huh, never hear anyone talking about those. Are they not efficient or something?
they seem pretty powerful to be fair.
a concentrated sun ray can start a fire in no time.
imagine thousands of those mirrors focusing light onto one point.
they are probably fairly expensive to make and you just cant have them everywhere if there is no sun.
you still have to deal with power storage.
then they mention heat based storage (to have a night buffer)
anyway, outside of generation they are faced with the same problems as everything else. grid and storage.
I mean, they work. But like a camping one takes a long time to boil a pot of water compared to fuel tablets which are much smaller.
CSP *must* have two axis tracking, and doesn't work when its cloudy
Made sense when PV solar was more expensive decades ago, not economical today when PV panels are less than a dollar per watt
I just read some more, csp is pretty cheap and gives a lot of power.
its probably the only underrated power source around.
the rest (except diesel and nuclear) are severely overhyped.
more stuff about csp.
its not as underrated as I thought.
this is a relatively old article but I dont know how much progress has been made since 6 years
>I get that retransmitting that energy back to earth might be a problem but surely we could come up with something, no?
Do you want to microwave the surface of the earth? To hang a megaheavy superconducting powerline from a satellite? Do you want a literal space laser boiling the atmosphere?
those are actually way less efficient than solar cells at this point. There are couple in North Africa.
If you want to preserve energy you can use flywheels and water pumps.
What's the issue, this is good for the climate.
>Hook windmills up to diesel generators so they can spin really fast
>They are like a giant fan and cool down the planet
>Global warming reversed
Are you trying to blow away the atmosphere?
Harness the power of magnets, create tesla coil powered by perpetual generator to light up a bulb that powers solar panels which in turn spins a lazy fat rat in a running wheel.
Gib me grantz!
there is a guy I know who started a company in 2008 to make solar panels that - get this - are in the atmosphere and tethered to Earth.
company has about 10 people or so. he has a huge house with a garage bigger than my house and at least a million in cars in it.
has never ever put a product on the market or even attempted to manufacture anything at all.
still gets gov't money. unfuckingbelievable.
Is his name Elon Musk?
That ain't working, that's the way you do it, money for nothing get your checks for free.
the earth has a huge electrical field around it just sitting up there waiting to be raped.
This is why i cant take "global warming" seriously.
imagine we just built nuclear power plants for the last 30 years years instead of handwringing about solar and wind as the answer to our civilizational woes.
>Company's ESG score drops because no diversity
>bring in loads of naggers and women to work in the plant to bring up ESG
I'd agree with you if we lived in a world where you could have a large company that was only allowed to hire competant white men
well a world that decides to build nukes is a priori not a world where we hire women and coons and time wasting pajeets to run shit into the dirt.
the oil inside the earth is the lubrication for the axle bearings.
if we keep taking oil out and not putting it back, we could burn out a bearing, the earth stops suddenly and we all fly off into space.
so I dump all my old diesel motor oil from the 2 trucks, the VW and the mercedes down in the creek out back.
the homosexual "organic" farmer downstream is always pissed but only because he doesn't under stand oil replacement theory.
I think there's too much wind and I don't mind if some of it gets converted into electricity.
Just keep that shit offshore. Also fuck the birds.
some guy basically had this point to make:
most popular renewable energy gives the least power during conditions where you need it the most. winter and night, windstill.
to go around that, you need good storage. extremely good energy storage.
without it, you basically say goodbye to civilization.
diesel and nuclear run 24/365 of the time. there is just no beating it at this current point.
Il y a eu des civilisation sans électricité. Après avec tout(es) le(s) vi(e) naigre, c'est sûre que cohabité sans energy va vite tourné en massacre Yam-yam
meme sans massacre, tu va avoir rien a manger qui en suite menera a un massacre dans toutes les cas.
if you want to know what might happen look at south africa. the power grid is going down as we speak.
this is what they want to happen in europe
lol imagine being white and thinking us naggers would let you get away with being wealthy, happy, healthy and progressive your entire existences lol. us naggers aren't happy unless everbody is a miserable, homeless, powerless, impoverished, unhealthy and violent nagger just like us! inshallah!
Probably not true, Scotland is windy as fuck.
I'm supposed to believe any goddamn thing a post-Musk blue checkmark linking to a YouTube video says, like some kind of fucking cuck?
how else are you going to spin the turbine? it's obviously meant to spend fuel to spin to generate more energy idiots
Use those useless immigrant rabbi
We can't have nuclear because spics shit skins and naggers can't be trusted to run them.
glownagger spotted. it's actually because it's white technology and the nagger triumverate run from my country wants the entire white world to become black and use black people power which is inherently a scam against the people because that is how we do it here in africa which is the seat of power of this world (on the surface).
I wish you guys would put the fires out up in Alberta.
as soon as I started telling people Canada is the last bastion for White Humans the whole fucking shithouse went up in flames.
I'm planning on driving my truck up to the border and then cruising through the woods on my Yamaha WR250r fully packed. I'll set up camp somewhere innawoods and then find a pond hockey circuit to get in. Once I get a cute Canadian White gf I'll be all set. hopefully she has a job or gibs.