I’d recommend getting a Japanese brand instead. Oni or Tanuki for strange fabrics, TCB or Warehouse for recreations of vintage jeans. N&F annoyed me with tiny pockets, both in front and back. They are a cool color and all, and N&F is the king of gimmick fabrics but if you are patient then you can get far better gimmicky fabrics from Tankuki, Pure Blue Japan, and lots more on Denimio or Okayama Denim.
t. Bought N&F as his first fancy jeans, almost never wear them after buying Oni Secret Denim.
I went all the hecking way to Manhattan to buy their coated jeans from the brick and mortar location and when I got there the guy told me the pants were discontinued.
Is the Manhattan location worth visiting or is it small?
Constructed on old looms that are able to either reproduce the denim the way it was before Levi’s and others switched to their current manufacturing processes, and also make completely unique denim weaves by adjusting the tension and materials used in the weaving process. Cone Mills used to make denim in the USA with similar looms that were the stock fabric for Levi’s going back decades, they went out of business and Vidalia Mills bought up most of their old machinery and continue that heritage in the US and have employed some of the old Cone Mills employees that have the skills to produce denim on those old machines.
Sounds like when weebs talk about how samurai swords are sharper than any blade
Anonymous says:
No it’s more like the American companies like Levi’s started valuing quantity over quality and changed their manufacturing processes to suit that, while Japs were getting really autistic about buying up and recreating the original denim fabrics as authentically as they could, which resulted in their own unique denim industry. There were Japs buying up truckloads of used and deadstock vintage Levi’s in the 80’s and 90’s they were so obsessed with it.
Anonymous says:
japs bought every single single shuttle loom from america last century when we abandoned our industry and started scrapping them. as time went on japs learned to modify these looms and operate them with higher skill than in the past. things like 21oz jeans used to be seen as technically impossible. the machines selvedge denim is made on are practically museum pieces and its actually kind of a miracle that they still exist.
that being said there’s really nothing bad about modern projectile looms either. you can’t make nearly as cool of fabrics with it but its insane how fast they shit out denim. its like watching an industrial printer. efficient, but soulless and lifeless.
Anonymous says:
good info thx bruh
Anonymous says:
How much is a shuttle loom? Is it feasible to start your own denim gig?
Anonymous says:
nobody else operates shuttle looms anymore. the last pic i posted is cone mills the last running american denim mill and it went bankrupt a while ago.
There’s still a few companies selling jeans with deadstock Cone Mills fabric, like Left Field and Bravestar, and Vidalia Mills bought up the old Cone Mills looms and is continuing that MiUSA heritage, Left Field has some random Vidalia Mills fabrics in stock right now.
Anonymous says:
>and Vidalia Mills bought up the old Cone Mills looms and is continuing that MiUSA heritage
i’m out of the loop, that’s based.
Anonymous says:
>and put it together in Canada.
so, they’re canadian
I went all the hecking way to Manhattan to buy their coated jeans from the brick and mortar location and when I got there the guy told me the pants were discontinued.
If you’re in Montreal go to Jeans Jeans Jeans and ask them to order the pants you want off their website. You’ll pay the same price as listed on the site but in CAD. I’ve gone to the tate and yoko store, tried on a jacket, went to JJJ to order that jacket and then got the same one I tried on at Tate and Yoko, I could tell from a certain fold in the collar.
Your fault for being so dumb. All of their denim is limited edition.
I’ll be in Montreal this summer. Can I buy jeans off the rack at jeans jeans jeans?
I’d recommend getting a Japanese brand instead. Oni or Tanuki for strange fabrics, TCB or Warehouse for recreations of vintage jeans. N&F annoyed me with tiny pockets, both in front and back. They are a cool color and all, and N&F is the king of gimmick fabrics but if you are patient then you can get far better gimmicky fabrics from Tankuki, Pure Blue Japan, and lots more on Denimio or Okayama Denim.
t. Bought N&F as his first fancy jeans, almost never wear them after buying Oni Secret Denim.
I don’t want to say you’re right yet, but my first fancy pair were also naked and famous. They were nice but already are falling apart. My Japanese denim brands are a step up. Right now I have samurai, sugar cane, Kapital, and Japan blue jeans. They’re all nice.
JJJ is great. The store in not particularly impressive looking, very low cost set up, but their prices are unbeatable. Service is great. If you plan to do the order thing expect a delay of maybe 1 week, but they have plenty of stuff in stock. I bought the easy guy pagodas for $150 CAD while they were still $300 USD on tate and yoko. I recommend going during the week because the weekends are packed. They’re also great at finding what you want just from you describing it.
they dropped the low rise. most of their current fits are mid rise, with some high rise choices. some of the cuts where the name didn’t change like weird guy got updated.
Sounds like when weebs talk about how samurai swords are sharper than any blade
there is some degree of jap worship going on in the western market but for the most part its a case of "shuttle loom better" and japs being the only autistic heckers who have any shuttle looms anymore.
lol how? their entire business exists to circumvent the massive tariffs north america has on importing jeans.
actually don’t tell me.
if you know a way to weave denim in a first world country and construct + sew jeans out of it in a first world country any cheaper than naked & famous does, you’re about to be a very rich man!
its pretty rich getting called crazy by a guy who just made a statement like its fact then b***hed out on proving it.
the mind of an insane stupid.
More expensive doesn’t mean better. The other anon comparing you to perfume autists is spot on. Low IQ brains
Anonymous says:
>More expensive doesn’t mean better.
this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it. show me a better pair of jeans than $98 unbranded 14oz’s or $150 n&f left hand twills. you have a chance right now to show /fashion/ you’re not a stupid.
Anonymous says:
>living by a scarcity mentality so bad that $150 of 2024 hyperinflation money is "expensive" for a pair of pants
holy lol this board declined get a job loser
the cashier at my local mcdonalds makes enough in a day to buy a pair
Anonymous says:
>More expensive doesn’t mean better.
this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it. show me a better pair of jeans than $98 unbranded 14oz’s or $150 n&f left hand twills. you have a chance right now to show /fashion/ you’re not a stupid.
>If I overspend on Jeans that means they’re better and I’m smart
No it means your a vapid consumer who falls easily for advertising
Anonymous says:
This is the consoomer board bro. You might be in the wrong place.
Anonymous says:
>vapid consumer
ive designed jeans that were made with cone mills denim and sold at roughly the same price point at n&f. the profit margins aren’t as big as you think. naked and famous’ made in china jeans retail for $18 more than a pair of levi’s and are made on a shuttle loom with a objectively nicer, heavier weight fabric. naked & famous’s standard jeans retail at exactly the cost of 2 pairs of levi’s and are made in canada+japan. trust me when i say the profit margin on a shitty pair of levi’s is higher. you’re not getting as good of a "deal" as you think you are.
>falls easily for advertising >Instead of relying on celebrity endorsements and expensive ad campaigns, we devote all of our resources to sourcing the world’s best fabric and turning it into awesome jeans. No advertising, no washes, no pre-distressing, no nonsense. Just excellent denim at a reasonable price.
moron i bought my first selvedge jeans when you had to translate japanese websites and google translate didn’t exist yet. blow me.
Anonymous says:
But like what jeans? Wranglers?
Anonymous says:
Are denim autists crazier than the perfume or watch autists?
lol how? their entire business exists to circumvent the massive tariffs north america has on importing jeans.
actually don’t tell me.
if you know a way to weave denim in a first world country and construct + sew jeans out of it in a first world country any cheaper than naked & famous does, you’re about to be a very rich man!
moreso stupid >wow woven on archaic machinery this is authentic >let me consider n&f skinny cut mixed with green dye >cant wait for these to fades which will take a year of constantly wearing >ends up buying 5 jeans and never goes out
despite LULZ making these "worthwhile" denim threads i have never seen a homegrown fade progress here or collection; and even if they did they scream to everyone poorgay whereas at most they spent a fraction of what watch, cologne would be
the worst part about these threads is the people that hate denim, come into the thread to tell everyone they hate denim and then never give any alternatives or post any fits themselves
in case you missed my last post >this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it.
got any examples that aren’t wrangler/rustler? i started that meme so it doesn’t count.
Anonymous says:
>this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it
>but 1 guy posting walmart wranglers every 4 months (supposedly) makes up for a billion threads
Anonymous says:
cheap summer work jeans
Anonymous says:
>i have never seen a homegrown fade progress here or collection
i post my fades at the end of every season — end of last denim thread.
but ya agree i’ve seen zero wrangler progressions get posted ever since i started the wrangler meme. i’ve been sitting on my ass playing video games all winter i’m sure someone has better fades to share.
What’s not normies then? Skinny jeans? Why would that one be called Weird then?
wym by normal?
probably weird guy or true guy.
the worst part about these threads is the people that hate denim, come into the thread to tell everyone they hate denim and then never give any alternatives or post any fits themselves
most of those posts are made by the pajeet who made 60 new threads about his linen pants from amazon.com last month. mental illness or something.
railcar is based. their women’s cuts are really good i’ve bought them for a few girlfriends.
Anonymous says:
i remember when blueowl was run out of jay’s apartment and you had to call and make an appointment to buy pants. i found out about selvedge by finding a pair of vintage jeans in a thrift store in the early 2000’s. noticed they were significantly nicer than any jeans i had ever worn before, flipped the cuffs one day and my mom of all people noticed and started telling me how much she missed those jeans you used to have to shrink in the bath tub when you got them. then i found out some guy down the street started importing japanese denim and running a boutique out of his house. it was pretty much the coolest botique i had been to and the owner was chill as heck so i started shilling him on sufu and styleforum and shit once they came to be. yeah man i really fell for advertising.
>vapid consumer
ive designed jeans that were made with cone mills denim and sold at roughly the same price point at n&f. the profit margins aren’t as big as you think. naked and famous’ made in china jeans retail for $18 more than a pair of levi’s and are made on a shuttle loom with a objectively nicer, heavier weight fabric. naked & famous’s standard jeans retail at exactly the cost of 2 pairs of levi’s and are made in canada+japan. trust me when i say the profit margin on a shitty pair of levi’s is higher. you’re not getting as good of a "deal" as you think you are.
>falls easily for advertising >Instead of relying on celebrity endorsements and expensive ad campaigns, we devote all of our resources to sourcing the world’s best fabric and turning it into awesome jeans. No advertising, no washes, no pre-distressing, no nonsense. Just excellent denim at a reasonable price.
moron i bought my first selvedge jeans when you had to translate japanese websites and google translate didn’t exist yet. blow me.
https://i.imgur.com/0oJSVBL.jpeg
my jeans are made by a japanese nerd with autism on machines from the 1890’s
your jeans contributed $433 million dollars to promoting LGBT inclusion in 2023
my jeans are made by a japanese nerd with autism on machines from the 1890’s
your jeans contributed $433 million dollars to promoting LGBT inclusion in 2023
I’m wearing their True guy fit. I don’t like skinny or tapered fits and never did, but wanted to try them, so these are my pants for not leaving the house. I cancelled my order for a weird guy, I think it only works well on manlets so I’m avoiding that brand after they restock on their strong guy in black.
>wranglers same color as the uniqlos
vintage wranglers with the cone mills white oak would be really close to that btw. just a slightly thinner fabric.
they did a re-issue of them about a year ago too. you might be able to find a pair in your size 2nd hand.
yeah 1.25-1.5" belt for jeans
bit thinner for chinos
and you want a totally different kind of belt for trousers/dress pants
full grain veg tan is a good one to start with if you want something that ages with your jeans (starts off stiff and bright colored and kinda ugly, ages to a chocolate color and softens up/molds to your body. cheap belt with a v good end result.)
and bridal leather is my go to for soft-right-away-but-also-indestructible belts.
you can find either one pretty readily online for like $50-100 with basic hardware or a bit more for handmade or more custom hardware.
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fuuuuuck i can’t believe i sold my pair on depop for like $80
youtube guy i stole the pic of them in their raw state from said they’re actually still pretty easy to find because they made so many & gave them out for free to puma store employees. be aware they came in a ton of cuts if you try to find some. i think 7+ counting the women’s. the good ones (imo) are the straight cut, the relaxed cut (what i have) and the super relaxed cut. the straight’s still pretty relaxed. p cool jeans the fabric’s totally different than evisu’s normal no.3 stuff. i think like 80-150 is going rate for deadstock-ish pairs.
worn vs new
been wearing left a lot lately because they’re soft like sweatpants. grayer in person than in pics. keeping my eye out for a slubby mid weight black denim in anything from a slim-straight to a loose cut.
I’ve worn in a couple pairs of sugar cane, samurais, and iron heart. This is my 25 oz iron hearts that I’ve been wearing the least 16 months with another pair of samurais. If I could only choose one company out of all the others, Iron Heart would undoubtedly sit at the top. Of course it’s all going to depend on whether their cuts are going to fit you, but they have the most straight forward, robust jeans with a sexy aesthetic compared to everything else. They make them with literally every possible structurally beneficial feature you could think of. They’re certainly not slubby, but I highly prefer how clean the denim texture is and how soft it gets when they’re worn in. And yes, they take forever to fade. Their 21 oz fabric is literally perfect
I’ve worn their 634 and multiple pairs of 888. For me, the 888 is perfect, but the medium rise with the 633/634 might be for you depending on what types of jeans already fit you best. The taper on the 888 and 633 are perfect, it’s not too narrow to wear the hem is hugging your ankles. It’s such a barely noticeable taper that you’re still able to drape your hem over any boots you want to wear and you still get a really sexy leg silhouette
Their 21 oz is the Goldilocks zone. It’s really not too heavy or thick, but it’s definitely thicker than a standard 14 oz. Also, they’re incredibly comfortable and easy to break in when you first get them. When you wear them in and they soften up, they’re incredible. There’s really no point to wearing heavier weight other than your own preference. I will say though that I don’t recommend their 25 oz
Any recommendations for brands that do high quality very light wash jeans? I’m having a nightmare trying to find a pair of medium or high raise, straight fit, 30×34 jeans in a very light blue stone wash.
I recommend rogue territory. Their stanton jeans are the cut n&f have been trying to pull off this whole time. I’ve spent years in n&f though, you cant go wrong with the core stuff. Just don’t fall for their memes. Picrel are my double blacks that don’t fit anymore cause I lost a shitton of weight. I might try and get them tailored.
Is there anything more gaygy and signifying of the low-T numale millennial than selvedge denim? These are the types of people who kneel for "People of Color" and want everyone’s kids’ 2nd grade teachers to teach them about pronouns and gay sex.
To make it even worse they soiface even harder when it’s from le heckin’ animetown (Japan).
I’m literally far right nationalist and love jap denim. You can pull off any outfit as long as you’re attractive. If the soi males weren’t wearing selvedge, they would be looking like goofballs in any other outfit they are trying to wear. If you hate selvedge, there’s nothing wrong with a pair of wranglers
>Is there anything more gaygy and signifying of the low-T numale millennial than selvedge denim? These are the types of people who kneel for "People of Color" and want everyone’s kids’ 2nd grade teachers to teach them about pronouns and gay sex. >To make it even worse they soiface even harder when it’s from le heckin’ animetown (Japan).
i’m a white nationalist i build and remodel houses.
are iron heart really worth $340 over momos, sugar cane, pbj? i prefer a very slow fader.
no. look at the pricing in japan relative to other jeans. iron heart’s global pricing is completely arbitrary and inflated. that being said: when you make a product that high quality, you can get away with that. their target market doesn’t care about the price or relative value.
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14oz. whats the purpose of heavy 21oz jeans?
i like 17-21oz because the thicker fabric is just that little bit more protective and just that little bit easier on my knees when i’m on them all day. while still being light enough they don’t feel rediculous to wear. 21oz’s turn into sweatpants after 3ish washes when the starch is all gone.
I bought a pair of weird guy jeans about 12 years ago. I thought they were a little expensive compared to my usual levi’s. I still wear them and they’ve never had any rips or blowouts anything like that. very comfortable. i don’t do anything special to take care of them either. for context, every pair of 60$ (or however much they cost) levi’s i’ve had have blown out in the crotch after like 6 months – a year.
momo natural taper is a great cut. never had black denim from them. i did 15.7oz momos with 21oz n&fs as my rotation for years in a northern climate and it was great year round. eventually i copped some 10oz’s for el nino cycle summers.
very brand to brand & theres 2 big categories of jap jeans.
repro jeans are all going to give you pretty usable pocket front openings, most of them have kind of small pocket bags and small rear pockets because they are reproductions of vintage levi’s. for the most part they all have a standard levi’s style coin pocket.
then theres modernized stuff. can be all over the place from n&f tier to really good. jap brands tend to give very generous pocket bags but pocket openings and coin pocket usability are kind of hit or miss you gotta kinda lurk reddit/forums and ask the spergs or try on to truly know.
best coin pocket ive ever had/seen is on those evisu’s i posted earlier itt. large and generously sized, pretty deep, snap rivet that allows you to open it, and lined. wish they did something similar on more of their jeans.
I got my first pair if raw denim jeans and after 2 months the pockets are all starting to fray from normal use, and so are the cuffs. I’ve never had $40 plastic thread jeans wear out so fast. Cotton is a hecking meme and raw denim is the biggest meme of all.
Cop or not these pics?
Looks boring for how much they cost
and yet N&F consistently have the most interesting fabrics on the market
love their jeans, love their linen button downs
I’d recommend getting a Japanese brand instead. Oni or Tanuki for strange fabrics, TCB or Warehouse for recreations of vintage jeans. N&F annoyed me with tiny pockets, both in front and back. They are a cool color and all, and N&F is the king of gimmick fabrics but if you are patient then you can get far better gimmicky fabrics from Tankuki, Pure Blue Japan, and lots more on Denimio or Okayama Denim.
t. Bought N&F as his first fancy jeans, almost never wear them after buying Oni Secret Denim.
Will look into anon
Is the Manhattan location worth visiting or is it small?
It’s like one room. I wouldn’t make the trip again, just order online in my opinion.
N&F is Japanese, they just import the denim from Japan and put it together in Canada.
Why is Japanese denim good? Is this a case of
>Thing vs Japanese Thing
Constructed on old looms that are able to either reproduce the denim the way it was before Levi’s and others switched to their current manufacturing processes, and also make completely unique denim weaves by adjusting the tension and materials used in the weaving process. Cone Mills used to make denim in the USA with similar looms that were the stock fabric for Levi’s going back decades, they went out of business and Vidalia Mills bought up most of their old machinery and continue that heritage in the US and have employed some of the old Cone Mills employees that have the skills to produce denim on those old machines.
Sounds like when weebs talk about how samurai swords are sharper than any blade
No it’s more like the American companies like Levi’s started valuing quantity over quality and changed their manufacturing processes to suit that, while Japs were getting really autistic about buying up and recreating the original denim fabrics as authentically as they could, which resulted in their own unique denim industry. There were Japs buying up truckloads of used and deadstock vintage Levi’s in the 80’s and 90’s they were so obsessed with it.
japs bought every single single shuttle loom from america last century when we abandoned our industry and started scrapping them. as time went on japs learned to modify these looms and operate them with higher skill than in the past. things like 21oz jeans used to be seen as technically impossible. the machines selvedge denim is made on are practically museum pieces and its actually kind of a miracle that they still exist.
that being said there’s really nothing bad about modern projectile looms either. you can’t make nearly as cool of fabrics with it but its insane how fast they shit out denim. its like watching an industrial printer. efficient, but soulless and lifeless.
good info thx bruh
How much is a shuttle loom? Is it feasible to start your own denim gig?
nobody else operates shuttle looms anymore. the last pic i posted is cone mills the last running american denim mill and it went bankrupt a while ago.
There’s still a few companies selling jeans with deadstock Cone Mills fabric, like Left Field and Bravestar, and Vidalia Mills bought up the old Cone Mills looms and is continuing that MiUSA heritage, Left Field has some random Vidalia Mills fabrics in stock right now.
>and Vidalia Mills bought up the old Cone Mills looms and is continuing that MiUSA heritage
i’m out of the loop, that’s based.
>and put it together in Canada.
so, they’re canadian
I went all the hecking way to Manhattan to buy their coated jeans from the brick and mortar location and when I got there the guy told me the pants were discontinued.
If you’re in Montreal go to Jeans Jeans Jeans and ask them to order the pants you want off their website. You’ll pay the same price as listed on the site but in CAD. I’ve gone to the tate and yoko store, tried on a jacket, went to JJJ to order that jacket and then got the same one I tried on at Tate and Yoko, I could tell from a certain fold in the collar.
Your fault for being so dumb. All of their denim is limited edition.
I’ll be in Montreal this summer. Can I buy jeans off the rack at jeans jeans jeans?
I don’t want to say you’re right yet, but my first fancy pair were also naked and famous. They were nice but already are falling apart. My Japanese denim brands are a step up. Right now I have samurai, sugar cane, Kapital, and Japan blue jeans. They’re all nice.
>Can I buy jeans off the rack at jeans jeans jeans?
yes
JJJ is great. The store in not particularly impressive looking, very low cost set up, but their prices are unbeatable. Service is great. If you plan to do the order thing expect a delay of maybe 1 week, but they have plenty of stuff in stock. I bought the easy guy pagodas for $150 CAD while they were still $300 USD on tate and yoko. I recommend going during the week because the weekends are packed. They’re also great at finding what you want just from you describing it.
Matcha ones seem kinda cool
lmaaaaao 232 for computer science jeans i cant
But they have a matcha green hue
is slim cut finally dead are we back in our straight era
I like slim for dress pants but not jeans
They increased the rise a bit on the Weird guy cut and the True guy cut is a bit higher than that
n&f is great if their fits work for you.
they dropped the low rise. most of their current fits are mid rise, with some high rise choices. some of the cuts where the name didn’t change like weird guy got updated.
there is some degree of jap worship going on in the western market but for the most part its a case of "shuttle loom better" and japs being the only autistic heckers who have any shuttle looms anymore.
Overpriced
lol how? their entire business exists to circumvent the massive tariffs north america has on importing jeans.
actually don’t tell me.
if you know a way to weave denim in a first world country and construct + sew jeans out of it in a first world country any cheaper than naked & famous does, you’re about to be a very rich man!
Because you can get high quality jeans for cheaper
like what?
>cheaper
poorgay never had a job zoomer detected
opinion discarded
More expensive doesn’t mean better. The other anon comparing you to perfume autists is spot on. Low IQ brains
>More expensive doesn’t mean better.
this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it. show me a better pair of jeans than $98 unbranded 14oz’s or $150 n&f left hand twills. you have a chance right now to show /fashion/ you’re not a stupid.
>living by a scarcity mentality so bad that $150 of 2024 hyperinflation money is "expensive" for a pair of pants
holy lol this board declined get a job loser
the cashier at my local mcdonalds makes enough in a day to buy a pair
>If I overspend on Jeans that means they’re better and I’m smart
No it means your a vapid consumer who falls easily for advertising
This is the consoomer board bro. You might be in the wrong place.
>vapid consumer
ive designed jeans that were made with cone mills denim and sold at roughly the same price point at n&f. the profit margins aren’t as big as you think. naked and famous’ made in china jeans retail for $18 more than a pair of levi’s and are made on a shuttle loom with a objectively nicer, heavier weight fabric. naked & famous’s standard jeans retail at exactly the cost of 2 pairs of levi’s and are made in canada+japan. trust me when i say the profit margin on a shitty pair of levi’s is higher. you’re not getting as good of a "deal" as you think you are.
>falls easily for advertising
>Instead of relying on celebrity endorsements and expensive ad campaigns, we devote all of our resources to sourcing the world’s best fabric and turning it into awesome jeans. No advertising, no washes, no pre-distressing, no nonsense. Just excellent denim at a reasonable price.
moron i bought my first selvedge jeans when you had to translate japanese websites and google translate didn’t exist yet. blow me.
But like what jeans? Wranglers?
Are denim autists crazier than the perfume or watch autists?
Yes. see
legitimate stupid.
honey they got the denimchuds!!!
Yes. See
its pretty rich getting called crazy by a guy who just made a statement like its fact then b***hed out on proving it.
the mind of an insane stupid.
No, because at least jeans are noticeable aspects of an outfit.
No. The perfume threads should not exist and the watch threads are exclusively fatty-boombatties
moreso stupid
>wow woven on archaic machinery this is authentic
>let me consider n&f skinny cut mixed with green dye
>cant wait for these to fades which will take a year of constantly wearing
>ends up buying 5 jeans and never goes out
despite LULZ making these "worthwhile" denim threads i have never seen a homegrown fade progress here or collection; and even if they did they scream to everyone poorgay whereas at most they spent a fraction of what watch, cologne would be
the worst part about these threads is the people that hate denim, come into the thread to tell everyone they hate denim and then never give any alternatives or post any fits themselves
>then never give any alternatives
what is google and every previous page – you think the game has really changed for the past 10 years
>post any fits themselves
>let me post this 1 pair again and again for months
I don’t think you understood what I posted.
I don’t think you understood how right they are
in case you missed my last post
>this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it.
got any examples that aren’t wrangler/rustler? i started that meme so it doesn’t count.
>this is an empty and meaningless platitude until you prove it
>but 1 guy posting walmart wranglers every 4 months (supposedly) makes up for a billion threads
cheap summer work jeans
>i have never seen a homegrown fade progress here or collection
i post my fades at the end of every season — end of last denim thread.
but ya agree i’ve seen zero wrangler progressions get posted ever since i started the wrangler meme. i’ve been sitting on my ass playing video games all winter i’m sure someone has better fades to share.
wym by normal?
probably weird guy or true guy.
most of those posts are made by the pajeet who made 60 new threads about his linen pants from amazon.com last month. mental illness or something.
stupid moron ook ook
>i post my fades
He replies without posting his fades kek
heres the last pic i took of my wrangley dangleys. been washed again since this pic cause i stepped in dog shit.
railcar is based. their women’s cuts are really good i’ve bought them for a few girlfriends.
i remember when blueowl was run out of jay’s apartment and you had to call and make an appointment to buy pants. i found out about selvedge by finding a pair of vintage jeans in a thrift store in the early 2000’s. noticed they were significantly nicer than any jeans i had ever worn before, flipped the cuffs one day and my mom of all people noticed and started telling me how much she missed those jeans you used to have to shrink in the bath tub when you got them. then i found out some guy down the street started importing japanese denim and running a boutique out of his house. it was pretty much the coolest botique i had been to and the owner was chill as heck so i started shilling him on sufu and styleforum and shit once they came to be. yeah man i really fell for advertising.
Kek Denim autists got set off
my jeans are made by a japanese nerd with autism on machines from the 1890’s
your jeans contributed $433 million dollars to promoting LGBT inclusion in 2023
Is weird guy their normal fit?
yes it’s the relaxed tapered fit, which is the most normie modern cut
if you have no idea or preference for what to choose it’s the best start
What’s not normies then? Skinny jeans? Why would that one be called Weird then?
I’m wearing their True guy fit. I don’t like skinny or tapered fits and never did, but wanted to try them, so these are my pants for not leaving the house. I cancelled my order for a weird guy, I think it only works well on manlets so I’m avoiding that brand after they restock on their strong guy in black.
I wear Weird guy because all the stores that sell naked and famous only had that. I just try one that feels nice and choose that
Check for local brands. I am in SOCAL and buy from these guys – you can go in to the shop for mtm from their patterns.
https://railcarfinegoods.com/collections/shop-mens
where does one start for some nice jeans
the anti denim sperg fears the $50 denim tuxedo
$22 jacket $30 jeans (two choices)
japan blue
tcb
sugar cane
n&f / nudie if you want something you can find irl easily
thank you
heck the wranglers would look amazing in the same colour as the uniqlos. Where’s the jacket from too?
>wranglers same color as the uniqlos
vintage wranglers with the cone mills white oak would be really close to that btw. just a slightly thinner fabric.
they did a re-issue of them about a year ago too. you might be able to find a pair in your size 2nd hand.
Wranglers are a meme
Yikes
Where should I get belts from? I wear belts everyday really
Phone charger
belts for jeans or what kind of pants?
budget?
random sellers on etsy/ebay (power word: full grain)
https://www.thirteen50leather.com/
https://www.etsy.com/shop/EternalLeatherGoods
my favorite belts personally no budget:
https://www.filson.com/accessories/belts-suspenders/1-1-4-bridle-leather-belt-2.html
www.pigeontree.com
You wear these with jeans?
yeah 1.25-1.5" belt for jeans
bit thinner for chinos
and you want a totally different kind of belt for trousers/dress pants
full grain veg tan is a good one to start with if you want something that ages with your jeans (starts off stiff and bright colored and kinda ugly, ages to a chocolate color and softens up/molds to your body. cheap belt with a v good end result.)
and bridal leather is my go to for soft-right-away-but-also-indestructible belts.
you can find either one pretty readily online for like $50-100 with basic hardware or a bit more for handmade or more custom hardware.
youtube guy i stole the pic of them in their raw state from said they’re actually still pretty easy to find because they made so many & gave them out for free to puma store employees. be aware they came in a ton of cuts if you try to find some. i think 7+ counting the women’s. the good ones (imo) are the straight cut, the relaxed cut (what i have) and the super relaxed cut. the straight’s still pretty relaxed. p cool jeans the fabric’s totally different than evisu’s normal no.3 stuff. i think like 80-150 is going rate for deadstock-ish pairs.
I have the made in japan okayama spirit and they’re real nice but tbh I wish they had a higher rise.
N&F is alright but their cuts only really work on twinks. True Guy or Weird Guy are their best fits imo- everything else is kinda memey
thoughts on Lee jeans? which cut is the best?
I’m tall and kinda skinny, already own two pairs of 13MWZ
>Lee jeans?
Better value everything in this thread.
guessing you’re from europe? lee’s are a lot more expensive in america than europe/asia for some reason.
levi’s trucker non-selvedge non-lvc https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/sale/mens-sale/outerwear/trucker-jacket/p/723340207
what the absolute heck is that model holy shit
evisu x puma from around 2007-ish
they looked like picrel when they were new. other than the cut they came in like 5+ dif cuts.
oh I was actually making fun of the male model wearing the jacket on the levis site.
He’s cute
Oh. That’s a ghoul from Fallout.
looooooooooooool
fuuuuuck i can’t believe i sold my pair on depop for like $80
worn vs new
been wearing left a lot lately because they’re soft like sweatpants. grayer in person than in pics. keeping my eye out for a slubby mid weight black denim in anything from a slim-straight to a loose cut.
some japan blues i practically lived in
some galbi i’m marinating for tomorrow
What’s unique about these tried and true ones. Anyone get them?
are iron heart really worth $340 over momos, sugar cane, pbj? i prefer a very slow fader.
I’ve worn in a couple pairs of sugar cane, samurais, and iron heart. This is my 25 oz iron hearts that I’ve been wearing the least 16 months with another pair of samurais. If I could only choose one company out of all the others, Iron Heart would undoubtedly sit at the top. Of course it’s all going to depend on whether their cuts are going to fit you, but they have the most straight forward, robust jeans with a sexy aesthetic compared to everything else. They make them with literally every possible structurally beneficial feature you could think of. They’re certainly not slubby, but I highly prefer how clean the denim texture is and how soft it gets when they’re worn in. And yes, they take forever to fade. Their 21 oz fabric is literally perfect
i was considering their 888 and maybe 633 black/black.
I’ve worn their 634 and multiple pairs of 888. For me, the 888 is perfect, but the medium rise with the 633/634 might be for you depending on what types of jeans already fit you best. The taper on the 888 and 633 are perfect, it’s not too narrow to wear the hem is hugging your ankles. It’s such a barely noticeable taper that you’re still able to drape your hem over any boots you want to wear and you still get a really sexy leg silhouette
im going to wear shoes like the AJ1. will the leg opening cover the shoe laces?
I would think so. I wear my 888 jeans with engineer boots and they are able to go over the boot shafts
14oz. whats the purpose of heavy 21oz jeans?
Their 21 oz is the Goldilocks zone. It’s really not too heavy or thick, but it’s definitely thicker than a standard 14 oz. Also, they’re incredibly comfortable and easy to break in when you first get them. When you wear them in and they soften up, they’re incredible. There’s really no point to wearing heavier weight other than your own preference. I will say though that I don’t recommend their 25 oz
I wish I would’ve seen them in Japan. I didn’t find a single pair of iron hearts in Tokyo. But I did get a nice pair of century denim Kapital jeans
Any recommendations for brands that do high quality very light wash jeans? I’m having a nightmare trying to find a pair of medium or high raise, straight fit, 30×34 jeans in a very light blue stone wash.
I recommend rogue territory. Their stanton jeans are the cut n&f have been trying to pull off this whole time. I’ve spent years in n&f though, you cant go wrong with the core stuff. Just don’t fall for their memes. Picrel are my double blacks that don’t fit anymore cause I lost a shitton of weight. I might try and get them tailored.
Is there anything more gaygy and signifying of the low-T numale millennial than selvedge denim? These are the types of people who kneel for "People of Color" and want everyone’s kids’ 2nd grade teachers to teach them about pronouns and gay sex.
To make it even worse they soiface even harder when it’s from le heckin’ animetown (Japan).
I’m literally far right nationalist and love jap denim. You can pull off any outfit as long as you’re attractive. If the soi males weren’t wearing selvedge, they would be looking like goofballs in any other outfit they are trying to wear. If you hate selvedge, there’s nothing wrong with a pair of wranglers
>Is there anything more gaygy and signifying of the low-T numale millennial than selvedge denim? These are the types of people who kneel for "People of Color" and want everyone’s kids’ 2nd grade teachers to teach them about pronouns and gay sex.
>To make it even worse they soiface even harder when it’s from le heckin’ animetown (Japan).
i’m a white nationalist i build and remodel houses.
no. look at the pricing in japan relative to other jeans. iron heart’s global pricing is completely arbitrary and inflated. that being said: when you make a product that high quality, you can get away with that. their target market doesn’t care about the price or relative value.
i like 17-21oz because the thicker fabric is just that little bit more protective and just that little bit easier on my knees when i’m on them all day. while still being light enough they don’t feel rediculous to wear. 21oz’s turn into sweatpants after 3ish washes when the starch is all gone.
I bought a pair of weird guy jeans about 12 years ago. I thought they were a little expensive compared to my usual levi’s. I still wear them and they’ve never had any rips or blowouts anything like that. very comfortable. i don’t do anything special to take care of them either. for context, every pair of 60$ (or however much they cost) levi’s i’ve had have blown out in the crotch after like 6 months – a year.
thoughts on these momos? would it be a nice pairing with IH 21oz black?
momo natural taper is a great cut. never had black denim from them. i did 15.7oz momos with 21oz n&fs as my rotation for years in a northern climate and it was great year round. eventually i copped some 10oz’s for el nino cycle summers.
I bought unbranded
what am i in for bros?
overprice walmart tier denim
n&f it isn’t quick and easy to put your id and cc in the coin pocket. are japanese denim the same way? i like keeping them in there with pocket cash.
very brand to brand & theres 2 big categories of jap jeans.
repro jeans are all going to give you pretty usable pocket front openings, most of them have kind of small pocket bags and small rear pockets because they are reproductions of vintage levi’s. for the most part they all have a standard levi’s style coin pocket.
then theres modernized stuff. can be all over the place from n&f tier to really good. jap brands tend to give very generous pocket bags but pocket openings and coin pocket usability are kind of hit or miss you gotta kinda lurk reddit/forums and ask the spergs or try on to truly know.
best coin pocket ive ever had/seen is on those evisu’s i posted earlier itt. large and generously sized, pretty deep, snap rivet that allows you to open it, and lined. wish they did something similar on more of their jeans.
I got my first pair if raw denim jeans and after 2 months the pockets are all starting to fray from normal use, and so are the cuffs. I’ve never had $40 plastic thread jeans wear out so fast. Cotton is a hecking meme and raw denim is the biggest meme of all.
are the 21oz IH perfectly wearable for pnw summer?