you need 1930’s or early 1940’s era reproduction jeans to get that silhouette. there’s a lot of brands who make these but they’re a specialty item so they won’t come cheap. styleforum and superfuture’s denim boards are a great resource for repro jeans.
the cheapest ones you will find, also imo among the best:
1940s: https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/collections/jeans/products/pre-order-page-s40s-jeans
1930s: https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/collections/jeans/products/copy-of-pre-order-20s-jacket
but there are many other brands who make reproductions of this kind of silhouette. i can recommend warehouse, denime, sugar cane, evisu & one piece of rock.
also that guy is skinny and may have sized up the waist on his pants. if you go true to size it won’t quite fit that way. jeans used to have a back cinch its possible to wear the waist tighter than the jeans are without having the front and sides look bunched up.
the ones i linked are levi’s reproductions. the jeans he’s wearing in that pic aren’t levi’s. they look a lot closer to something wrangler/blue bell would have made. levi’s reproductions of the era should roughly get you the right fit though, and sadly its 99% of what gets reproduced these days, anything based on a non-levi’s pattern is rare & you may need to have to read japanese to find them.
for a budget option, wrangler 31mwz’s belted and sized up is the closest you’ll get. it won’t quite have that same taper-less leg though.
Thanks. I’m pretty familiar with all the common repro brands, but your posts made me remember Taiga Takahashi, who has these which aren’t identical but are pretty close
https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
>https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
based & good choice. i find it very hard to go back to cinch-less jeans, now days i only buy them if the fit is absolutely perfect.
any fit reproducing or inspired by that 20’s to ww2 time period is going to roughly have the silhouette you want. especially 30’s that’s when the straight zero taper smoke stack type leg was most produced.
the side adjusters you find on some fatigue pants are great as well. you can’t take as much size off the waist with them, but its so nice to not need multiple pairs of pants for weight fluctuations if you work out.
i wish modernized style denim wasn’t so cucked by trying to be like levi’s and more brands would be actually creative with things like that. i don’t think it would look out of place on modern jeans and could even be hidden on the inside of the jeans like with dress pants.
Anonymous says:
also that guy is skinny and may have sized up the waist on his pants. if you go true to size it won’t quite fit that way. jeans used to have a back cinch its possible to wear the waist tighter than the jeans are without having the front and sides look bunched up.
the ones i linked are levi’s reproductions. the jeans he’s wearing in that pic aren’t levi’s. they look a lot closer to something wrangler/blue bell would have made. levi’s reproductions of the era should roughly get you the right fit though, and sadly its 99% of what gets reproduced these days, anything based on a non-levi’s pattern is rare & you may need to have to read japanese to find them.
for a budget option, wrangler 31mwz’s belted and sized up is the closest you’ll get. it won’t quite have that same taper-less leg though.
try rakuten/denimio they might be in stock in your size on there.
do you want money is no object type recs or budget minded ones?
keep in mind everything i’m gonna rec either way will be very high end just the cheaper you go the more limited selection & pain in the ass it is to find.
high end: DYOR lurk some sufu/styleforum until you find something you really like then proxy buy it (most of that stuff you won’t be able to buy here)
budget:
yahoo auctions japan (buyee) and find yourself a pair of evisu 2000s or one of their other various other fits that has a back cinch. should be able to get a pair with sick fades or a relatively unfaded or even brand new pair for like 70-100 shipped give or take.
if you don’t want to proxy buy you can find an abundance of the evisu x puma collab from back in 2007 deadstock/good fades/barely worn condition online for around 50 to 150 dollars for a good pair. they made like 7 different cuts of it from super skinny to 3 different baggy cuts and made so many they gave the things out to puma employees for free. all over thrift websites and ebay.
these are a great pair of jeans but the rise is not quite as high as evisus other cinch jeans.
pictured is evisu 2000s
note: you want like a mid-high or high rise with a cinch. some brands add them to modernized cut jeans and it doesn’t work imo. can be fine with a slim leg but they have to be jeans you wear @ waist.
Appreciate the detailed recs anon. Found 1 last pair of TCB30s in a size 31. TCB’s size charts make them look like they’ll fit spot on. Bears Tokyo makes it look like I’d need a few sizes up, but I’m gonna go with TCB and hope for the best.
also i think the ones the other anon went with earlier
https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
are sick if you’re a 30, 32, 34. i really like them.
Oh and these look good, but no thigh measurement = no buy, especially not at that price. And these
https://i.imgur.com/D80oPiF.png
budget: bronson and bob dong and a lot of those other chinese brands do repro and repro inspired jeans with cinches. browse their pages. there’s more bronson shit out there than their website. never bought jeans from any of them but i have bought fatigues, tees, shirts etc and they’ve all been solid.
measurements on these look really good to me:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805727047120.html
look sick but I have a few pairs of jeans with a 13" front rise (Japan Blue Loose & N&F Classic). They’re insanely comfortable and actually fit my small waist well, but I always feel anachronistic with my normal tee and boots
japan blue loose is 13" at what waist size? i’ve been trying to find how tall the rise is on those for a while kek.
Anonymous says:
They’re JB514 at a tagged 31
i PERSONALLY always go with the size chart the seller provides not the manufacturer, as jeans can sometimes be ran in multiple batches and sometimes batch 1 fits one way batch 2 fits the other. but if its telling you it’d be multiple sizes different its probably a mistake, or sometimes sellers will give a generic/useless size chart so maybe that could be happening. usually its like 1 tag size or half tag size difference if tcb’s website has one batch and the place you bought has another.
Fair enough. I’ll see when they get here I guess
Anonymous says:
i PERSONALLY always go with the size chart the seller provides not the manufacturer, as jeans can sometimes be ran in multiple batches and sometimes batch 1 fits one way batch 2 fits the other. but if its telling you it’d be multiple sizes different its probably a mistake, or sometimes sellers will give a generic/useless size chart so maybe that could be happening. usually its like 1 tag size or half tag size difference if tcb’s website has one batch and the place you bought has another.
Anonymous says:
also i think the ones the other anon went with earlier
https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
are sick if you’re a 30, 32, 34. i really like them.
budget: bronson and bob dong and a lot of those other chinese brands do repro and repro inspired jeans with cinches. browse their pages. there’s more bronson shit out there than their website. never bought jeans from any of them but i have bought fatigues, tees, shirts etc and they’ve all been solid.
measurements on these look really good to me:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805727047120.html
Those look pretty good. I wish the Chinese brands would do longer inseams. I had a pair of pants from Sauce Zhan a few years ago that I liked, but they were just too short for me
some lees had slash pockets i’m not versed on lee history but i’ve seen it.
I wish more jeans had them. I think they’re way more functional than typical jeans pockets
agree with modern jap style super deep pocket bags there isn’t really any hit to security in going with slash pockets i wish more modern designs would utilize it.
function wise my favorite front pocket all around is wrangler’s shape, kinda a middle ground pocket. but slash looks cooler.
Anonymous says:
also also be aware modern tees don’t fit that way you’ll have to get something with a boxy 1940’s style fit to complete the look. luckily a heck load of jap and chinese brands reproduce those. recommend bronson for entry level price tier ones.
I got them on eBay from a Japanese guy living in the US and I don’t know if they still make them because I’ve only seen them used from Japanese sellers. I kind of wish I still had them because the fabric was really nice and they were one of the only pairs I’ve seen with a 33" inseam. Here’s a similar pair on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/364732394379
Hmm, could be. To me it looks like the pockets on the ones he’s wearing are straighter vs. the more rounded ones on the Lees I’ve seen pictures of, but that could be because he’s actually wearing them, while the ones I’ve seen pictures of were off-body.
idk why MiJ evisus are so cheap second hand in asia i guess because they made so many for so long. the price isn’t correlated to quality they’re very nice. also keep in mind some of the shittier-looking-when-new gull colors look sick when they fade down and resell for even less than colors like red/white/etc.
note the evisu x pumas are NOT selvedge and NOT made in japan but they’re a very high quality denim regardless.
also note the hem looks weird on mine because of an alteration.
you need 1930’s or early 1940’s era reproduction jeans to get that silhouette. there’s a lot of brands who make these but they’re a specialty item so they won’t come cheap. styleforum and superfuture’s denim boards are a great resource for repro jeans.
the cheapest ones you will find, also imo among the best:
1940s: https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/collections/jeans/products/pre-order-page-s40s-jeans
1930s: https://tcbjeans.myshopify.com/collections/jeans/products/copy-of-pre-order-20s-jacket
but there are many other brands who make reproductions of this kind of silhouette. i can recommend warehouse, denime, sugar cane, evisu & one piece of rock.
Thanks. I’m pretty familiar with all the common repro brands, but your posts made me remember Taiga Takahashi, who has these which aren’t identical but are pretty close
https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
>https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
based & good choice. i find it very hard to go back to cinch-less jeans, now days i only buy them if the fit is absolutely perfect.
any fit reproducing or inspired by that 20’s to ww2 time period is going to roughly have the silhouette you want. especially 30’s that’s when the straight zero taper smoke stack type leg was most produced.
>i find it very hard to go back to cinch-less jeans
I had a pair of Orslow fatigue pants that had one, and it was pretty nice
the side adjusters you find on some fatigue pants are great as well. you can’t take as much size off the waist with them, but its so nice to not need multiple pairs of pants for weight fluctuations if you work out.
i wish modernized style denim wasn’t so cucked by trying to be like levi’s and more brands would be actually creative with things like that. i don’t think it would look out of place on modern jeans and could even be hidden on the inside of the jeans like with dress pants.
also that guy is skinny and may have sized up the waist on his pants. if you go true to size it won’t quite fit that way. jeans used to have a back cinch its possible to wear the waist tighter than the jeans are without having the front and sides look bunched up.
the ones i linked are levi’s reproductions. the jeans he’s wearing in that pic aren’t levi’s. they look a lot closer to something wrangler/blue bell would have made. levi’s reproductions of the era should roughly get you the right fit though, and sadly its 99% of what gets reproduced these days, anything based on a non-levi’s pattern is rare & you may need to have to read japanese to find them.
for a budget option, wrangler 31mwz’s belted and sized up is the closest you’ll get. it won’t quite have that same taper-less leg though.
What’s a good readily available pair of cinch backs? TCB is sold out of my size
try rakuten/denimio they might be in stock in your size on there.
do you want money is no object type recs or budget minded ones?
keep in mind everything i’m gonna rec either way will be very high end just the cheaper you go the more limited selection & pain in the ass it is to find.
high end: DYOR lurk some sufu/styleforum until you find something you really like then proxy buy it (most of that stuff you won’t be able to buy here)
budget:
yahoo auctions japan (buyee) and find yourself a pair of evisu 2000s or one of their other various other fits that has a back cinch. should be able to get a pair with sick fades or a relatively unfaded or even brand new pair for like 70-100 shipped give or take.
if you don’t want to proxy buy you can find an abundance of the evisu x puma collab from back in 2007 deadstock/good fades/barely worn condition online for around 50 to 150 dollars for a good pair. they made like 7 different cuts of it from super skinny to 3 different baggy cuts and made so many they gave the things out to puma employees for free. all over thrift websites and ebay.
these are a great pair of jeans but the rise is not quite as high as evisus other cinch jeans.
pictured is evisu 2000s
note: you want like a mid-high or high rise with a cinch. some brands add them to modernized cut jeans and it doesn’t work imo. can be fine with a slim leg but they have to be jeans you wear @ waist.
Appreciate the detailed recs anon. Found 1 last pair of TCB30s in a size 31. TCB’s size charts make them look like they’ll fit spot on. Bears Tokyo makes it look like I’d need a few sizes up, but I’m gonna go with TCB and hope for the best.
Oh and these look good, but no thigh measurement = no buy, especially not at that price. And these
look sick but I have a few pairs of jeans with a 13" front rise (Japan Blue Loose & N&F Classic). They’re insanely comfortable and actually fit my small waist well, but I always feel anachronistic with my normal tee and boots
japan blue loose is 13" at what waist size? i’ve been trying to find how tall the rise is on those for a while kek.
They’re JB514 at a tagged 31
Fair enough. I’ll see when they get here I guess
i PERSONALLY always go with the size chart the seller provides not the manufacturer, as jeans can sometimes be ran in multiple batches and sometimes batch 1 fits one way batch 2 fits the other. but if its telling you it’d be multiple sizes different its probably a mistake, or sometimes sellers will give a generic/useless size chart so maybe that could be happening. usually its like 1 tag size or half tag size difference if tcb’s website has one batch and the place you bought has another.
also i think the ones the other anon went with earlier
https://taigatakahashi.com/products/lot-709-modified-denim-work-trousers-raw-indigo23aw/
are sick if you’re a 30, 32, 34. i really like them.
budget: bronson and bob dong and a lot of those other chinese brands do repro and repro inspired jeans with cinches. browse their pages. there’s more bronson shit out there than their website. never bought jeans from any of them but i have bought fatigues, tees, shirts etc and they’ve all been solid.
measurements on these look really good to me:
https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256805727047120.html
Those look pretty good. I wish the Chinese brands would do longer inseams. I had a pair of pants from Sauce Zhan a few years ago that I liked, but they were just too short for me
I wish more jeans had them. I think they’re way more functional than typical jeans pockets
agree with modern jap style super deep pocket bags there isn’t really any hit to security in going with slash pockets i wish more modern designs would utilize it.
function wise my favorite front pocket all around is wrangler’s shape, kinda a middle ground pocket. but slash looks cooler.
also also be aware modern tees don’t fit that way you’ll have to get something with a boxy 1940’s style fit to complete the look. luckily a heck load of jap and chinese brands reproduce those. recommend bronson for entry level price tier ones.
those look hella gay bro
Skinny fit and slim fit are what’s gay, because that way you can flash your "curves" to all the other gays.
also link those orslow fatigues they sound based and i’ve been on a fatigue pants tip lately.
I got them on eBay from a Japanese guy living in the US and I don’t know if they still make them because I’ve only seen them used from Japanese sellers. I kind of wish I still had them because the fabric was really nice and they were one of the only pairs I’ve seen with a 33" inseam. Here’s a similar pair on eBay:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/364732394379
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/364732394379
oh man i love those. will be added to my list of things to periodically lurk yahoo auctions japan/etc for.
oh bro are you still there?
i think i remembered what those jeans are
pretty sure they’re 40s era lee riders
Hmm, could be. To me it looks like the pockets on the ones he’s wearing are straighter vs. the more rounded ones on the Lees I’ve seen pictures of, but that could be because he’s actually wearing them, while the ones I’ve seen pictures of were off-body.
some lees had slash pockets i’m not versed on lee history but i’ve seen it.
heres my evisu x pumas, cinch is broken i need to find a new one or buy a cheap pair steal it and sacrifice the denim for repair scraps.
idk why MiJ evisus are so cheap second hand in asia i guess because they made so many for so long. the price isn’t correlated to quality they’re very nice. also keep in mind some of the shittier-looking-when-new gull colors look sick when they fade down and resell for even less than colors like red/white/etc.
note the evisu x pumas are NOT selvedge and NOT made in japan but they’re a very high quality denim regardless.
also note the hem looks weird on mine because of an alteration.