there is nothing else to.life than playing LIFE. there is nothing else to hold onto anymore. wageslaving our pain away, that's it. there is no god, there is no utopia, there's only misery and pain. no god or no science can stop the natural instincts that resides in our subconscious
It's about how the devouring-mother archetype kills masculinity in her sons, who then hesitate to act and remain childlike and unsexed. The type of figure she's talking about is like a proto-incel, though it's broader than that. You can just see a lot of resonance with the modern complaints about feminisation of culture
The basic problem she talks about is that pueri tend to live in fantasy worlds and need to reconcile themselves with reality or else they'll "crash" and have a nervous breakdown of some sort. Whimsical inclinations need to be tempered with actual work.
>everyone talking about ~the longhouse~
I'm not native English speaker. What do you mean by that?
"The longhouse" is just a mem-phrase talking about social norms being mediated by mother figures.
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2023/02/what-is-the-longhouse
>or else they'll "crash" and have a nervous breakdown of some sort
And the empirical evidence for this is...? Sounds like another woman trying to get men to do stupid shit that's against their interest by appealing to convention.
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Anonymous
yea, where's the evidence
1 week ago
Anonymous
Go look at reddit, or any collection of soibois, numales, incels, or any of the other meme buzzwords for "failure-to-launch" types. She wants you to get a job, start lifting weights, and ask girls out.
>against their interest
Wasting your life shitposting on reddit complaining about how women won't ask you out despite you being worthless isn't in your interest either, and yet here you are.
1 week ago
Anonymous
I have a job, lift weights, and ask girls out
I still hate everything and everyone. Driving out to the Rockies and fucking off from civilization for a week or two is the best thing a man can experience.
>Whimsical inclinations need to be tempered with actual work.
I don't get how bourgeois academics who spent all their lives in cushy office jobs ruminating about myths, unconscious archetypes, and other fantastical notions have the gall to say shit like this. Working a soul-crushing job whilst at the same time having an unrequited interest in (actual, non-fanciful) philosophy and theory is exactly what caused my personal mental breakdown and withdrawal from the hellscape that is "actual work", where you get home in the evening too exhausted to cook dinner, let alone play around with whimsical fantasies like Oedipus.
Work basically. The work is irrelevant doing the work is what's important. She also mentions that creative work tends to work well for most peers as it suits their need to drift into fantasy but also forces them to individuate through a craft.
She's not wrong this book really resonated with me and after a life time of neeting I got a job and it helped with a lot of my procrastination and neurosis. Not even a good job just a shitty fast food job.
>le work hard
I know plenty of manchildren wageslave drones. In fact, most of the office plankton today acts like this. This book’s only virtue is its recital of Freudian sexuality theory. All the Jungian bullshit interpretations stick out like a sore thumb. >let’s discuss le Bible references about lambs and how it’s totally reflected in the Prince
pseud trash written by a woman
You can either be a onions bugman manchild or cultivate a discrete iconoclasm out of personal neuroses and channel them into some online approximation of a religious or political institution.
Is it a worse fate to buy funko pops or snicker at the chattel in a discord server where FBI agents are goading autists into doing the highway of death to their junior high?
>Jungian psychobabble with monumental problems of underdetermination that will be considered "good" by retards because it adequately describes the problem it fails to explain
Nah senpai, I'm gonna snort some ketamine instead
She essentially describes the transition between the aesthetic and ethical stage of life in Kierkegaard’s terms, but with retarded Jungian shit about mothers and mythology instead of the eloquent and witty references of Either/Or. Either/Or is fun to read while this felt like a chore in a bad way.
This book pretty clearly has no weight to it but it works as a fun insult against people you dislike because she doesn't really say anything too meaningful in it therefore you can just put it on whoever you dislike. The latin title is clumsy and a laughable attempt at having authority. Read Either/Or instead
>bro! work will make you happy! Just slave away in an unjust system for ~~*the elites*~~
The key to happiness is to simply stop pursuing any sort of outward compliments or “reward”. And I count fantasies as reward
So what. I should read a lot of things.
Read Puer Aeternus first
No.
Why
>not the one by James Hillman
Literally kill yourself, OP-iece of shit
t. Puer Aeternus
Find culture, meme-raised puer.
You seem to be familiar with both. Compare and contrast, please.
And refrain from swearing if you please.
I don't read women
Let me guess:
>You WILL work in the mines and you WILL enjoy it
sums up this book's message,
Yes you're basically right.
archetypal mines. to find minerals and metals, to mine the philosopher's stone or to discover the gold
there is nothing else to.life than playing LIFE. there is nothing else to hold onto anymore. wageslaving our pain away, that's it. there is no god, there is no utopia, there's only misery and pain. no god or no science can stop the natural instincts that resides in our subconscious
I read it but i don't know what I was supposed to get out of it
What's it about
No thanks
What the hell, I actually was just reading that. Interesting read, good companion to everyone talking about ~the longhouse~
>good companion to everyone talking about ~the longhouse~
What does she say about it?
It's about how the devouring-mother archetype kills masculinity in her sons, who then hesitate to act and remain childlike and unsexed. The type of figure she's talking about is like a proto-incel, though it's broader than that. You can just see a lot of resonance with the modern complaints about feminisation of culture
Does she posit any solutions because that's literally me?
The basic problem she talks about is that pueri tend to live in fantasy worlds and need to reconcile themselves with reality or else they'll "crash" and have a nervous breakdown of some sort. Whimsical inclinations need to be tempered with actual work.
"The longhouse" is just a mem-phrase talking about social norms being mediated by mother figures.
https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2023/02/what-is-the-longhouse
>or else they'll "crash" and have a nervous breakdown of some sort
And the empirical evidence for this is...? Sounds like another woman trying to get men to do stupid shit that's against their interest by appealing to convention.
yea, where's the evidence
Go look at reddit, or any collection of soibois, numales, incels, or any of the other meme buzzwords for "failure-to-launch" types. She wants you to get a job, start lifting weights, and ask girls out.
>against their interest
Wasting your life shitposting on reddit complaining about how women won't ask you out despite you being worthless isn't in your interest either, and yet here you are.
I have a job, lift weights, and ask girls out
I still hate everything and everyone. Driving out to the Rockies and fucking off from civilization for a week or two is the best thing a man can experience.
>Whimsical inclinations need to be tempered with actual work.
I don't get how bourgeois academics who spent all their lives in cushy office jobs ruminating about myths, unconscious archetypes, and other fantastical notions have the gall to say shit like this. Working a soul-crushing job whilst at the same time having an unrequited interest in (actual, non-fanciful) philosophy and theory is exactly what caused my personal mental breakdown and withdrawal from the hellscape that is "actual work", where you get home in the evening too exhausted to cook dinner, let alone play around with whimsical fantasies like Oedipus.
work hard
my boss just scolded me for not working hard enough, fucking piece of shit. I wanna kill myself rn, I can't take this shit no more
Why don't you kill him instead? (in factorio)
remote job
Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha
i'm sorry 🙁
Work basically. The work is irrelevant doing the work is what's important. She also mentions that creative work tends to work well for most peers as it suits their need to drift into fantasy but also forces them to individuate through a craft.
She's not wrong this book really resonated with me and after a life time of neeting I got a job and it helped with a lot of my procrastination and neurosis. Not even a good job just a shitty fast food job.
>everyone talking about ~the longhouse~
I'm not native English speaker. What do you mean by that?
>le work hard
I know plenty of manchildren wageslave drones. In fact, most of the office plankton today acts like this. This book’s only virtue is its recital of Freudian sexuality theory. All the Jungian bullshit interpretations stick out like a sore thumb.
>let’s discuss le Bible references about lambs and how it’s totally reflected in the Prince
pseud trash written by a woman
You can either be a onions bugman manchild or cultivate a discrete iconoclasm out of personal neuroses and channel them into some online approximation of a religious or political institution.
Is it a worse fate to buy funko pops or snicker at the chattel in a discord server where FBI agents are goading autists into doing the highway of death to their junior high?
LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALA I AM NOT A PUER AETERNUS
Why would I read a femcel autist?
>Jungian psychobabble with monumental problems of underdetermination that will be considered "good" by retards because it adequately describes the problem it fails to explain
Nah senpai, I'm gonna snort some ketamine instead
You pretend to read this because you watch that youtube video
She essentially describes the transition between the aesthetic and ethical stage of life in Kierkegaard’s terms, but with retarded Jungian shit about mothers and mythology instead of the eloquent and witty references of Either/Or. Either/Or is fun to read while this felt like a chore in a bad way.
Why did Jung hate Kierkegaard?
do I sound like a historian to you? I read books for their content, nigga.
What's Either/Or about?
read it to find out, homosexual
If you’re gonna do so, read it in its entirety (including the preface) in the Hong translation.
I can't read
Are you a nagger perchance?
Please stop using f-word and n-word
Sorry
Make me, nagger
Stop pretending to be me, fag
I got the dubs, I am you now and I (you) no longer use the word fag
Peruse the number of dubs I got and stfu, you massive naggerhomosexual
I'm trans btw, not that it matters.
>Either/Or is fun to read
really?
yes? At least it was during the pandemic. You do all kinds of shit when you’re bored.
This book pretty clearly has no weight to it but it works as a fun insult against people you dislike because she doesn't really say anything too meaningful in it therefore you can just put it on whoever you dislike. The latin title is clumsy and a laughable attempt at having authority. Read Either/Or instead
no, you're wrong about dat
You've spammed this shit too many times, so I outright refuse to read it. Fuck off.
>You've spammed this shit too many times
?
>bro! work will make you happy! Just slave away in an unjust system for ~~*the elites*~~
The key to happiness is to simply stop pursuing any sort of outward compliments or “reward”. And I count fantasies as reward