why aren't you vegan yet, anon?
animals are innocent and defenseless, and they don't want to die or suffer. we can be healthy eating a vegan diet. Google it
it's morally wrong to kill animals without a justified reason. we don't have a justified reason to eat meat. debate me
Animals are amazing. I love some more than others, the rest should be slaughtered for my nourishment.
why would that be the case? those animals suffer and have feelings. they don't want to die for your taste pleasure. you can get your nourishment elsewhere, you don't need to eat to meet. it's not necessary for your health. it's wrong to kill those innocent animals
sure, but the past doesn't dictate morality. we came from a long civilization of genocide and rape. tribal warfare, genociding other tribes and writing their woman was the norm for many many many tens of thousands of years. but that doesn't mean murder and rape are moral.
Idk what fucked up israeli satanic neaderthal tribes you came from but my people just ate ham and pineapple, maybe killing yourself is the only way to repay your ancestors
we have been raping and killing each other since we were monkeys. it's common in monkey culture to behave like this. this is what native American people were doing before they were colonized by whites. white people, black people, have been enslaving, genocide and, raping, and killing each other since recorded history. but the past doesn't dictate our morals for today. and since we can avoid doing those things we should. the same is true for meat. we can avoid it and be healthy, so we should
>we have been raping and killing each other
No I know my family tree very well, don't throw me in with your disgusting israelite mutt admixture, you wouldn't be feeling guilty if your family wasn't the murdering rapist scum that you so deeply hate lol
Love is a pyramid. The beauty will be saved, the ugly will be abandoned. Animals and humans are treated in the same way in this regard.
>we don't have a justified reason to eat meat
If you're ancestors didn't hunt and eat meat then you wouldn't be here shitposting about it today, you have no argument to this.
>why aren't you vegan yet, anon?
because i'm not a 45 year old woman who is having a midlife crisis.
>it's morally wrong to kill animals without a justified reason
what do you mean? it's morally wrong to eat anything, so that argument is irrelevant. I rarely kill any animals. if you use electricity or drink clean water, you are also guilty.
>what do you mean? it's morally wrong to eat anything
no it's not. how's the morally wrong to eat dirt, or rocks? how's the morally wrong to kill any plans? plants can't suffer. plants don't feel pain
you pay for people to kill animals every time you eat meat
all robots should be vegan. it's so hypocritical to talk about how unfair life is, but then turn around and pay for it innocent animals to be killed against their will. the true robots diet is veganism
>eat dirt
you are eating the habitat of animals
>plants don't feel pain
what does pain have to do with anything? meat in a grocery store doesn't feel any pain. when you steal plants from animals, you cause animals pain too.
>b-b-but that's different!
no. you are drawing arbitrary moral lines because you know you are an immoral person. your passive protest is actually a form of narcissism. it's like antinatalism or climate change activism. you are incapable of doing good, so you simply create a fake "bad" that you "choose" not to do and act like it's the same as doing something good. you are far more immoral than anyone who eats meat but still participates in society, by definition
>meat in a grocery store doesn't feel any pain
yeah, but the animals that were killed to make that meeting did feel pain. the animals that you eat did feel pain. it's so bad faith and disingenuous for you to pretend otherwise. please stop acting stupid
>you are far more immoral than anyone who eats meat but still participates in society
you have to be delusional to think like this. you are coping out of this world. anon, stop projecting your insecurities on me. I never claim to be a perfectly moral person. I'm not jesus. I'm just telling you that eating meat is more wrong, and that you should go vegan.
you pay for people to kill innocent animals that don't want to die, needlessly for taste pleasure. you can be healthy on a vegan diet. and go vegan. all robots should go vegan
>please stop acting stupid
You mean like the retard who thinks that eating plants doesnt cause pain? Go read a book
>go vegan
Stupid feminist bullshit. Diet fads dont make you a better person. You can be rational and argue for smaller portions of meat and fish for people who overeat. You cannot argue for feminist propaganda veganoid cope. It just makes you look like a brainwashed idiot who doesnt actually do anything productive for society
>plants can't suffer. plants don't feel pain
Can say the same thing about animals.
All living organisms have systems in place to avoid injury and stay alive.
That you disregard the pain and suffering of what you consider food doesn't make you more righteous than someone else who disregards the pain and suffering of what they consider food.
>That you disregard the pain and suffering of what you consider food doesn't make you more righteous than someone else who disregards the pain and suffering of what they consider food.
But anon, the piggies make noises that kind of resemble human noises and that makes me sad ):. Plants only make ultrasonic screeches we can't even hear so it's okay.
OK I'll bite, why does it matter if you buy meat or not if you have no ultimate effect on the amount of animals that are slaughtered or not
sure does, it's called supply and demand. over enough time, statistically speaking, your decision to not buy meat alone will cause a grocery store to order less meat, this will directly result in multiple animals not being read into existence. this is simply a fact of math, over enough period of time. every time you buy meat, there's a increased probability, that that single purchase was what made the grocery store buy more meat from the slaughterhouse. it makes a difference. supply and demand
Adam browse that shitty board, and LULZ is my home board since it was created. you're not a robot, and you're just an animal abusing retard. go vegan, you brain damaged low quality post retard. nobody respects you or likes you here.
problem with that is, by buying meat, you pay breeders to breed these ugly animals into existence. it's like paying woman to breed ugly insoles into existence, so they can suffer and die for someone else's pleasure. it's horrifically moral, and it should be stopped. everyone, including all robots, should go vegan
Grocery stores and the government subsidize eggs whether you buy them or not. Do you ever buy vegetables from a store or a farmer? You are finding the meat industry. Supply and demand is not product specific, retard
Yes I know about supply and demand, but I have such a minor effect that it ultimately doesn't matter
If these animals are ugly, why do you care about them? Wouldn't they disgust you in your presence? If they were extinct there would be no food and everyone would die. There is no b12 and k2 in plants, so your teeth fall out and your bones shrink.
If you ate meat you would have the intelligence to realize that telling anons to stop eating meat is fucking stupid and pointless.
I will be cooking lobster tonight and sending you the voca. Enjoy
You forgot the part that nobody asked for your opinion. Go leave
I am superior to all animals therefore I am allowed to eat them.
To elaborate, animals are too lazy and stupid to manifest destiny and evolve into humans. For this they deserve whatever date man ordains for them.
so it's okay to abuse and hurt anyone who doesn't have power? is it okay to torture and kill mentally retarded children, because they will never develop into a normal human being, and are no more smarter than a chicken or a cow?
>Grocery stores and the government subsidize eggs whether you buy them or not.
sure, but if enough people go vegan, we can get laws changed so the egg industry and the meat industry won't be subsidized for free. by going vegan color you reduce the demand, and make it more likely that such laws and such practices will go extinct
you are simply wrong. over enough time, you're single decision to go vegan will result in less animals being forcibly bread into existence and killed. this is just statistically true over a long enough time frame. over years of being vegan, you will have not bought kilograms and kilograms and kilograms of meat. this will eventually result in less animals being bred to existence. over enough time. it does make a difference
>If these animals are ugly, why do you care about them?
I think they're cute.
>There is no b12 and k2 in plants
your body makes k2, and there's no B12 in animals either. the animals that you eat are injected and supplemented with B12 that came from bacteria. bacteria makes vitamin b12. you can get B12 from supplements on a vegan diet. you don't need to eat animals to get B12
>"and there's no B12 in animals"
>you are simply wrong. over enough time, you're single decision to go vegan will result in less animals being forcibly bread into existence and killed. this is just statistically true over a long enough time frame. over years of being vegan, you will have not bought kilograms and kilograms and kilograms of meat. this will eventually result in less animals being bred to existence. over enough time. it does make a difference
I don't get why I have so much moral responsibility. It's like OK, well if I purchase from this person, since they are an meateater, I'm therefore supporting their beliefs, and so on. I say the responsibility is too indirect for one person. Stores throw out meat all the time and there's much more waste shit that cause this. In the first world, it's a sin if a store doesn't have enough of something, because everyone wants, wants, wants.
I'm working on that lobster boil vocaroo. Lobster Mac and cheese sure is tasty. Yum Yum!!
Holy shit that sounds nice. Post pics too.
are you saying might makes right? so anyone that's stronger is morally correct? is it okay to rape and kill children, because you're stronger? is it okay for normies to abuse robots as much as they want, because normies and chads are stronger?
robots are the biggest hypocrites on the subject. they moralize when they're the victims, but smugly laugh when they abuse animals and claim that they are superior to animals. it's ureal seeing that hypocrisy
>thinks that eating plants doesnt cause pain?
plants don't feel pain. go ahead and post scientific evidence that they do
>Stupid feminist bullshit
veganism has absolutely nothing to do with feminism. please don't straw man the vegan position. veganism is about animal well-being, reducing needless animal suffering, and ending animal exploitation. it has nothing to do with females. I'm a male
>It just makes you look like a brainwashed idiot who doesnt actually do anything productive for society
yeah, like half of the neets and hikis on this board?
it doesn't matter what it makes you look like. it's wrong to needlessly kill innocent animals. we don't need to be to meet. you should go vegan. you haven't made any arguments, you just straw man the vegan position by saying it's about feminism, which it's not. I couldn't care less about female rights or feminism
You're simply killing innocent animals such as these, without justification. your taste pleasure is not justification to hurt and kill an animal
Lmao at this retard ignoring me becasue I just BTFO'ed him haha
no I think we're just giving them too many replies plus you talk too much ENTJ
I do not talk too much hey vegan mf answer me
I'm ignoring you because you haven't made any points. you are literally retard brainless. seriously, you're one of the dumbest posters on LULZ. yes, I've seen a lot of your posts, you're genuinely fucking stupid. kill yourself. I understand that you don't care for animals suffering or animal well-being, but you haven't made any arguments.
>haha I eat meat
that's not an argument. my main point is that it's morally wrong to kill innocent animals without justification. and we don't need to leave animals for any nutritional purpose. meaning we shouldn't be eating animals, because we can be healthy on a vegan diet
some anon in 2017 did some light outreach to me, and I became vegan because of them. it's not pointless
>Nobody does, but that's the way of the world; predator/prey.
just because the world is a certain way, does it mean it should be that way. we were talking about morals, we were talking about the way the world should be. that is an is-ought fallacy, google it
>Vegan diets are unhealthy & unnatural.
not true, you can be healthy and live a long life and if you can diet. almost all dietary organizations Echo this. Google it.
>Animals are not equal to us
they don't need to be for us to have compassion for them at the stop exploiting and killing them. other races and women aren't equal to us either, but it's still wrong to exploit and killing enslave them, isn't it?
you wouldn't be okay with aliens exploiting and killing you for their pleasure, now would you, you hypocrite
>I'm ignoring you because you haven't made any points
>goes fucking ad hominem anyway
You have lost mf you have been BTFO by facts and logic AGAIN
>we were talking about morals, we were talking about the way the world should be.
If your morals are based on feminine hyper-empathy, then they are worthless.
>Ummm achkshually experts say...
I don't give a shit. We live in a world where so called "medical professionals" say that a man can become a woman as long as he feels like one. "Experts" constantly lie and say dumb shit, so I trust my eyes & the wisdom of my ancestors. Every vegan I see is dysgenic and looks unhealthy.
>other races and women aren't equal to us either, but it's still wrong to exploit and killing enslave them, isn't it
No.
>you wouldn't be okay with aliens exploiting and killing you for their pleasure, now would you, you hypocrite
What the fuck are you even trying to imply here? You think slaughterhouse & farm owners own their businesses because they enjoy killing? People don't eat meat because they get off on animals suffering and dying, you delusional fuckwit.
It is not a matter of strength. A human life is simply more valuable, in any sense of the word, than an animal's. But is isn't simple membership in the tribe 'human', some humans by thier own vicious behavior destroy thier humanity a forfeit thier moral value. In addition, humans contain extraordinary potential within thier future, that potential is worth protecting. Very few animals contain this kind of potential.
Some robots definitely deserve to have the freak bullied out of them.
You should kys to save the planet.
>they don't want to die or suffer
Nobody does, but that's the way of the world; predator/prey. Vegan diets are unhealthy & unnatural. We are omnivores, there's a reason why most vegetarians & vegans are frail and look about 20 years older than they actually are, or are ultra feminine basedboy manchildren.
It's such a symptom of modern society that everybody is way too comfortable and hyper-empathetic towards lower lifeforms.
Animals are not equal to us. We use them for companionship or food, & generally stay away from the ones that could potentially kill us. This is how it always has been & always will be. You can try to fight nature all you want, but nature will always win.
Hah, fuck no. I love eating meat. Continue to cry over food, homosexual.
God gave us animals for food. (Not the filthy swine in your picture though Lev 11:7-8)
If you still eat plants then you are a hypocrite by definition. Anyway, why do you believe in feminist lies? They did that to you on purpose to ruin your health
as long as society functions the way it does right now a couple of vegans won't change the meat industry.
going vegan is cowardly being passive about the problem, you won't make a change by appealing to morality.
>why aren't you vegan yet, anon?
Why would I be.
>animals are innocent and defenseless, and they don't want to die or suffer.
Why would I care about any of these factors regarding my food beyond whether it makes it taste better?
>we can be healthy eating a vegan diet. Google it.
We can be healthy eating an omnivore diet. Google it.
>it's morally wrong to kill animals without a justified reason. we don't have a justified reason to eat meat.
"I am hungry (for meat)." is sufficient.