You realize when a religion says it is the only correct religion, that's a manmade lie, right?

You realize when a religion says it is the only correct religion, that's a manmade lie, right? Why would God give one single group the truth? Idiots, the whole lot of you. The trouble with divine inspiration is that it must be delivered through a human vessel, and human beings are flawed. The only way to find the truth is to seek out something objective. Love is that thing. Love God and your neighbor as yourself. That's what Jesus said was the key to understanding the secrets of Heaven. All this other bullshit is man getting in the way.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why would God give one single group the truth? I
    Gods are at war with each other.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what do you think this is like dnd?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Literally every religion besides the Abrahamic ones explicitly mention conflicts between the gods, and the Abrahamic ones don't because IHVH won the conflict that much.

        https://i.imgur.com/rjtnciz.jpg

        You realize when a religion says it is the only correct religion, that's a manmade lie, right? Why would God give one single group the truth? Idiots, the whole lot of you. The trouble with divine inspiration is that it must be delivered through a human vessel, and human beings are flawed. The only way to find the truth is to seek out something objective. Love is that thing. Love God and your neighbor as yourself. That's what Jesus said was the key to understanding the secrets of Heaven. All this other bullshit is man getting in the way.

        Somebody had to know it first, and after which they propagate it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Literally every religion besides the Abrahamic ones explicitly mention conflicts between the gods
          Yes and no, and also a second no. The second no is because the earliest versions of the Abrahamic mythology does feature celestial wars between Gods, only now we've demoted them to angelic status. The first no is because that is a oversimplification of many religious cosmologies. Hinduism for instance is a monotheistic tradition that believes in many aspects of a singular deity, and so the celestial conflict is roughly akin to a psychological battle taking place within the mind of God. Many other polytheistic traditions took a similar approach once you dig a little deeper. Late Hellenic religion was this way. There's reason to think that most of the Greek pantheon was viewed allegorically in the later period of its existence.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I've been reading Campbell recently, so the "celestial war narrative as a metaphor for supplanting previous religion" idea is still in my head, despite not agreeing with his whole framework.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            To expand on this, many of these polytheistic systems work to allegorize human conflict psychological and sociological conflict, even if they weren't meant to do that by the people who originally wrote the myths. Although, I personally tend to suspect that that is how "divine inspiration" actually works. Attempting to understand God and the cosmos is usually an attempt to understand oneself and their place in the world. When we look at the history of myths, they always begin with personifying elements of the world in front of us. We create gods out of the Sun and Moon and Stars. We create gods of volcanoes and mountains and storms. In time they get a bit more refined and we create Gods of wisdom and love and lust and war.

            We create stories in which these mythological constructs interact with one another. We do this intuitively. We make stories to explain winter and summer. We make stories to explain the path of the planets and stars moving through the sky. We create stories to explain envy and falling in love. And these stories teach us things about ourselves. They express deep truths about life that are difficult for us to articulate otherwise. And we can sense when these stories ring true without really having to be told. And they ring so true that even in this age of science and objectivity, we are still analyzing these stories in the highest circles of academia. Even when we're deconstructing them, they are teaching us something profound. That discourse is the Logos of God. That is the divine speaking through us. There is an undeniable power in myth.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You seem to. Trying to lecture people who are 10 steps ahead of you.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Maybe. I tend to doubt it though. At any rate, belief in some celestial war outside of my control does little to improve my life, so I'll probably discard such notions.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yea more or less. You always felt that way?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hard to say for sure, but I've felt that intuitively for most of my life, even if I wasn't always able to articulate it

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would agree with you 100%

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How can objective truth exist when everything you perceive is subjective?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think therefore I am. That is enough to know something exists. And I also know that there at least appear to be others out there who do things to me, both good and bad. I do not like it when people do bad things to me, therefore I am willing to take the gamble of thinking they too exist and that they do not want to have bad things done to them. I know that, at least in my experience, love exists and it is something I value above all things. I make the conscious decision to extend that love to others.

      I also choose to believe that God exists and that He loves us. I may be wrong on that point, but at the end of the day the psychological state that this belief leaves me in is preferable to any alternative I can choose, so I choose it. If I'm wrong and He does not exist, then I've lost nothing because my ultimate fate of death and eternal void remains the same, but I have gained the ability to be more comfortable during the time that I do here. If I am wrong and God exists but he does not love us, or is otherwise malevolent and unjust, then I could not abide in the two commands to love both Him with my entire heart, spirit and mind and my neighbor as myself. In that reality I am Hellbound either way, because while I could attempt to force myself to love that God, it would be a false love. Love is not subjective and it is not something that can be given. It simply is what it is.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      repeatable science experiments

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