Winter survival

What things does someone need to survive the coming winter with next to no money. I'm talking survival stuff.

I don't live rural, I'm in an estate but there is a large woods a few minutes from here.
Things like "is it worth having a fire outside or to be wrapped up inside"
What type of stove should we get, gas, and What meals can we expect from it.
Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you should buy canned protein now before its 10x the price

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you should buy canned protein now before its 10x the price
      this plus hang blankets in the doorways

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >hang blankets in the doorways
        great advice
        don't forget to hang blankets over windows

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          plastic sheeting, stapled down using cardboard strips is what to use on windows
          Grew up having to do that in a damned house trailer for years. Ghetto as hell but effective.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            this man knows his stuff
            listen to him
            also, stuff rags under doors to minimize air movement

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >plastic sheeting

            Very much this. Also, a small 'survival alcohol stove' can be used with candles. save all the wax and reuse it. Buy candle wicks in bulk. You would be shocked by how much heat a small flame can put out in a properly prepared room. Buy some cheap, smoky incense. Burn it and watch the smoke. It will tell you where every draft is coming from. Thick wool socks and a wool cap will see you through the coldest of nights. Keep each just for sleeping, don't let them get dirty. Even the cheapest of sleeping bags will help you survive, no heat lost as you turn and move in your sleep.
            Cold air finds the lowest point - always. Stay off the floor. Even if you do not have a loft or an upper floor just setting your survival shelter on a raised platform or even a dining room table will help you stay comfortable at the worst of times.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking this.

        The canned meat (3x500g) went up 3-4$.
        I thankfully have been stockpiling protien and pasta and sheiiiat.

        Stags chilli + any pasta is a good simple meal,

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get those space blankets. Tape them over your exterior windows (buy tuck tape to patch them together)

        Sol brand emergency blankets are great for personal use.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By dried protein. 1/10 the price.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dry it yourself for more savings

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      By dried protein. 1/10 the price.

      Stock up on long lasting vitamin supplements also. You can fill your stomach with oatmeal and protein powder even without cooking, but deficiencies will get you sick and weak

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >you should buy canned protein now before its 10x the price
      This. Or dried proteins.
      That "estate" is going to be devoid of animal life within the first 90 days.
      Make sure you have some kind of protein or a VERY good protein supplement. Otherwise, you will be one of those with a bloated belly from malnutrition.
      Also, buy survival tablets. They come in 250 calorie tablets, usually 50-100 a bottle.
      They are excellent for the cold mornings when you need a little extra charge. They won't last long, but will give you an edge energy wise.

      You will get a lot of suggestions I am sure.
      The ONE thing I cannot stress enough is planning to look distraught and malnourished.
      Don't be that family that looks fabulous while everyone else looks run down. Everyone else will team up and come a knocking.
      Unfortunately, you will have to either hide until others starve our or die of disease or practice looking like shit. Not joking. little things like rubbing dirt around your eyes to give you that "sunken" look. baggy clothes to look malnourished and skinny (it helps if they are already sun bleached and tattered).
      If you have a home/victory garden, plant jaggers and high weedy looking plants around the outskirts. Make it difficult to get to your garden and have a peek.
      Watch..there will be lots of things you (probably not I) have thought of with this thread.

      (no)Peace after their time.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        forget about how you look, when people are starving they will come. isolation is critical if you can. if you are stuck in the city and you have food you're going to have to kill a lot of people, not even joking, and the odds are against you

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is true. Best hope for urban survival is to not be there. Second best is pooling resources with like-minded friends and family, sharing duties, and running a constantly rotating security/fire watch schedule.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Second best is pooling resources with like-minded friends and family, sharing duties, and running a constantly rotating security/fire watch schedule.

            yah, if you have enough friends/family then somebody should have a place out of town, do the same there. security won't be guaranteed in the country either

            see pic here

            [...]
            is this it?

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just be yourself bro

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should seriously start gaining as much weight as you can. Having a higher body fat percentage will increase insulation from heat and will also make it more difficult for you to starve if resources get low for extended periods of time.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Seems that to survive I must spend another year as a girlfriend less boy

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'd say that, in the end, women are USUALLY a strain on resources, with very little to offer other than emotional trauma, drama, and three moist holes.
        Don't settle for any woman who can't cook, from scratch, and who is loyal.
        Anything else can just be bartered for, once shit goes all to hell.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So nikocado is gonna be the last man standing when SHTF

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So nikocado is gonna be the last man standing when SHTF

      fat people will be eaten

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Roman army marched and fought on chickpeas.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        17$ bro thats half my months food budget. Get rice. If there is a sale, get ramen or other dented canned food if its less then 0.50c

        PAsta can be cheap too, but unluck rice you need some kind fo sauce to put in it. Its pretty easy to get 1$ sauce though.

        Spegattios go on sales a lot too, check dollar stores for .50c cans.

        But rice never fails, you can always eat it plain if need be.

        You need some kind fo meat, so something like cheap knockoff spam or Vienna sausages can be the trick. Pork is usually pretty cheap too. Check for porkchops on sale.

        LEarn to bake your own bread can be huge too. A can of baking yeast and a sack of flour can go a long way.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 4 weeks ago
    Sage

    Get a wood burning stove, stay inside, break out a window and fit a chimney vent through a piece of sheet metal, fitted to the window pane. Frame out a 12x12’ room to live in a seal it off with 8-10 mil plastic sheeting. Hang as much thick fabric you can find inside of that. It will get surprisingly cozy in there. I spent a winter in an unheated loft apt in Cleveland, Ohio in a setup like that with no problems.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      God I wish I could but as a Council estate I'd be fined out the asshole since I don't own the house.
      Makes me Seethe that the councils aren't trying to prepare any houses for the winter

      • 4 weeks ago
        Sage

        If people are literally freezing to death, do you think they’re going to enforce such regulations?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes they will. The council won't give a shit about people freezing to death. They never have in the past. My house is identical to the way it was when it was built in 197X. Boiler was changed I suppose.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The point he's making is if the choices are getting fined out the ass (maybe) or dying, are you really going to freeze instead of dealing with some bureaucrat bitching at you?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you can't burn stuff. Then wrap up.

        You can get tent indoors with candle. This will enable you to heat a poorly insulated house by air gapping your environment

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          THIS x10000 if you are unable to burn things indoors than get as many candles as you can and focus on only heating your tent/sectioned off part of the house. You can seal a room with 6 ml plastic and you can double your amount if you half it and use it as 3ml. Or a tent a tent would be best and with a couple of candles you will be roasting. You can rig up a water boiling system with 4 decent sized candles. GOOD LUCK this winter Anglobro I'm thinking of creating a shittube channel for basic winter survival tips.
          t. Poorfag leafbro who has survived winters without heat and power

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also picrel. Save your grease and fat before all the meat is gone. Rig up something like this. Great use for "waste" that normally clogs the sewers. Dig deep fren. Your ancestors survived the middle ages ffs you can do it just look in to how your progenitors survived and utilize whatever you can.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous
            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              good advice

              "waste not, want not"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you cant burn wood, and will have electric, you can do the same with a small space heater. As long as you can keep the heat in, you can keep toasty with just a small sapce heater. Cover the wall with blankest and make a insulation box. But let fresh air in occationaly. DOnt want to die of co2 posioning.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Well meaning, bad advice.
          In previous years running a space heater for a long time would add £250 per month to the heating bill.
          Now it would probably add £2000+ to energy bills.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Reducing the amount of space you're heating seems like a good place to start. We do the same thing in Florida when running a window shaker off generator power: choose one room to cool well instead of a large area that will never reach a comfortable temperature.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I spent a winter in an unheated loft apt in Cleveland, Ohio

      because all the heat downstairs rose to you

      if the power/heat goes out, that won't be happening this time

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Right? He's such a retarded homosexual but so are you for reddit spacing

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >MUH SPACING

          homosexual, people have been spacing like this on LULZ before reddit existed

          "reddit spacing" is a newfag meme

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            goddamit i fucking loved jim profit videos. they were so funny

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What things does someone need to survive the coming winter
    >round up israelites and homosexuals
    >use them to fire your ovens
    >things will go back to normal almost instantly
    >everybody will be warm and happy then just like they were before israelites and homosexuals seized control

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Warm clothes
    That's it

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Radiant heat with tea lights is a cheap way but not the best for obvious reasons. Honestly, if you can, something like a portable wood stove would be best, replace one side of your window with plywood, then vent the stove through the plywood side. They make kits for this. If you're this near to the woods, it might be a good idea, though England makes everything illegal, so not sure if a viable solution for you. Godspeed.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The stove idea is very appealing but not possible here, we'll it is but it's illegal. I'd love to go collect fire wood and use my surroundings like that

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        look up how to make an arizona penny stove and stock up on rubbing alcohol. get some wool gloves and socks. there's a lot you can do on a budget. even just having a tent and then insulating it with some extra external layers can really improve the situation if it gets that bad. just make sure to vent it at least a little so you don't suffocate.
        the way things are going, get a few hundred pounds of rice. 100% people are going to starve to death. living on famine food is better than not living at all. how much protein and other nice shit do you think you can stockpile? not enough. not unless you have a lot of money laying around. even then, it won't be enough. rice, beans, oats, lentils, flour or even unprocessed wheat.. the cheapest shit you can get in bulk should be a priority. water too, having a way to distil dirty water should be your #1 priority. when things go bad dirty water is what will fuck up the most people. that penny stove, a pot, some tubing, and another container for the steam to drip down into is really all you need.
        you should probably learn to make wine too, it'll be safer to drink than water and easier to store. it can also be a good source of yeast for making rising bread. all you need is sugar, fruit, water, and patience. some balloons will help, if the yeast is producing gas the balloons will expand, that means you can make wine or have a yeast base for bread. you can distil it too, just don't drink it if you do. if you don't remove the right amount of top layer the chemicals in it will make you go blind.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ah, another thing that you should know. if you have a metal container and attach a pipe to it that goes down into another container, and then another pipe in that container that goes into another container, you can create a waxy fuel that's basically diesel from plastic. any plastic, cut it up, put it in the first container, and heat it. the gas will go through the tube and in the first container you'll get a waxy kerosene like substance, in the next container you'll get a yellowy fuel, and if you keep that line going you'll eventually get a liquid diesel and from that very last container you have a metal pipe. that last pipe will emit propane gas, which you can use to feed that fire in the beginning of the process. just don't do it inside and keep the containers a safe distance from the fire. you'll probably have to keep an eye on the tubes so they don't fill with waxy stuff.

          that's only for apocalyptic end times circumstances though, it's for sure illegal. people aren't supposed to know you can turn plastic into fuel, it's a not so secret secret. you can go on youtube and find a million videos that show you how to do it. a lot of islands fuel themselves from diesel derived from plastic.

          you definitely can't do it inside, it has to be outside and from what i've read (never done it myself) it'll smell like absolute chemical death. probably don't want to get any of the goop on your skin or breathe any of those fumes.

          I'm about to be asleep so I'll thank you for the replies now and read them when they are archived in the morning

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you're a fucking pussy and I'm going to put a wood burning stove in my council FLAT to prove it to you. keep an eye on brit/misc/ for proof

        • 4 weeks ago
          G

          I’m a council flat and considering the same. Fuck em.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Try to buy bulk coal, Google rocket stove, set up in back garden and heat rocks to bring inside-in a heavy duty metal.bucket, even a makeshift chimney pipe and hot coals in said metal bucket, maybe a metal plate to set them on in the house and then just keep in a small room that is " air tight"

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And freezing to death is legal?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          not only legal but encouraged

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            They must have a license for that.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no license needed when it's to support Ukraine. Good thing I don't feel the cold much, this winter would be expensive otherwise

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Naturally you shouldn't feel cold since you have no idea what it means. I for one welcome our frosty overlord and hope to see -35'C again.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Naturally you shouldn't feel cold since you have no idea what it means.
                And that's a good thing.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yes it is. The cold is what separates Whites from you.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Sure thing my Fingolian friend

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is it true that Fin replace the water in their bodies with vodka (a natural anti-freeze) every winter to prevent freezing? How much vodka should I ingest to get Finnish super powers?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        BUT MUH MASTERS SAY I CANT..

        die then

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      plywood might burn tho

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not plywood , use some type of thermoply or metal flange.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can use a tent stove flashing kit. The rubber is immune from the heat and holds the flue pipe away from the tent or plywood that it goes through.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    make a ammo can wood stove and a hot tent from a tarp. I'm gona do this anyway for winter back packing and it should be comfy af.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The clay pot and candles trick actually works.

      My brother and i did it when we were poor and the power was out.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a window AC and install it backwards

    • 4 weeks ago
      Futhatswhy

      I hope you arnt serious.
      If it gets cold.. Installing an AC backwards yes would give you heat..However.. You're cooling down already cold air.. The AC will freeze up and no more heat.. On top of if its already freezing out the refrigerant wouldnt turn back into a gas and if liquid refrigerant makes it back to compressor ... it will kill the compressor.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a small dog and start smoking a pipe.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's gonna be so much worse than you even imagine.
    Remember to thank WEF and liberals.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >It's gonna be so much worse than you even imagine.

      yes

      >Remember to thank WEF and liberals.

      no, quit scapegoating

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Keep your outer layer of clothes cold. Keep your rifle cold. Bringing these inside to warmth produces condensation. Wet clothes and a rusty rifle never function property.

    Eat fat, eat before bed. If you can't shelter in warmth, sleep during the day and stay moving through the cold of night.

    2 pairs of boots and the boots should be top of the line. Always have a second pair with you.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sage advice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >muh rifle
      >in Bongland. In a council house for poorfags.

      This post must have been automatically generated.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An unheated home beats being outside in pretty much every possible way. Be ready for water pipes to freeze and burst so either keep them trickling and exposed to whatever heat sources you have access to or be getting them isolated and drained.

    You can use grills / propane but you're going to literally die from carbon monoxide if you aren't being smart about it. A CO monitor and a plan for ventilation will mean the difference between being comfy all winter or taking the big sleep.

    Plan for one room in your house to be the main living space, choose an interior room or atleast a room on the side of the house that gets the most sun and the least wind and insulate it as much as you can by hanging blankets.

    Invest in food you can cook easily on a camping stove.

    Invest in clothing that you can layer up. You can live through extreme cold but only if you are able to stay dry.

    Invest in a good fire extinguisher or 3 if you're going to be heating your house like a retard this winter.

    Finally, give us updates so we can get some entertainment out of your suffering.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cheers anon, I don't have any interior rooms in my home but my bedroom gets some sun. The hardest part about the winter won't be the surviving, its the living. Still having to go to work, the idea of a cold shower at 6am before walking to the bus and riding for 30 mins is Killing my soul
      I'll be sure to hang blankets and get foil blankets for the windows maybe

      Buy a cheap tent and set it up indoors on top of scrap cardboard.
      Buy canned food and a small tea light stove to heat it on.
      Layers: extra socks, long underwear, knit hats.
      Yes it can be safe to use a fire indoors but you can't be stupid about it. Use it for cooking not warmth.

      I've actually thought about the tent before I do have one

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Still having to go to work, the idea of a cold shower at 6am before walking to the bus and riding for 30 mins is Killing my soul

        if things get really bad you won't have to go to work. in the meantime, a little adversity is good for your soul. it's this pampered spoiled existence that is soul destroying. what doesn't kill you makes you stronger, etc.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        look up wimhof and start the cold showers now. you won't even miss warm showers by the time winter rolls around

        cold showers really aint that bad once you get used to it

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I personally love it, started doing it for 'self improvement' and now i just prefer to shower cold. usually don't want to leave the shower because it feels so nice

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You will eventually prefer cold showers. Start with a 5 gallon bucket full of eater as and sponge or towel.. then dump water on yourself.. slowly. Eventually it becomes nice

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Poor rural singlewide dwelling anon here.
      Grills are suicide. Kerosene and propane heaters are pretty safe. Crack a window and use a CO detector. Radiant heaters are more efficient if you're staying in one area. Use them to heat you, not the house.
      They're expensive to fuel, probably even more expensive in the coming winter. I would invest in a heated blanket and a nice down jacket and sleeping bag instead.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        An unheated home beats being outside in pretty much every possible way. Be ready for water pipes to freeze and burst so either keep them trickling and exposed to whatever heat sources you have access to or be getting them isolated and drained.

        You can use grills / propane but you're going to literally die from carbon monoxide if you aren't being smart about it. A CO monitor and a plan for ventilation will mean the difference between being comfy all winter or taking the big sleep.

        Plan for one room in your house to be the main living space, choose an interior room or atleast a room on the side of the house that gets the most sun and the least wind and insulate it as much as you can by hanging blankets.

        Invest in food you can cook easily on a camping stove.

        Invest in clothing that you can layer up. You can live through extreme cold but only if you are able to stay dry.

        Invest in a good fire extinguisher or 3 if you're going to be heating your house like a retard this winter.

        Finally, give us updates so we can get some entertainment out of your suffering.

        Buy a Pomoly titanium tent wood stove and fit the exhaust pipes accordingly

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Last winter where I live it didn't even reach freezing point all winter. Remember that 90 percent of the populated parts of Britain have winter on easy mode. People in this country are going to freeze to death or bankrupt themselves over a temperature difference of maybe 20 degrees, because so many houses here hold heat like a sieve holds water

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Good advice, but it's only an English winter. Make sure you have a high tog duvet or wool blankets and a mattress to get off the floor, and you'll be fine. Just go to bed when you get too cold. A hot water bottle is also good (until the power goes out).

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I hear wallpaper paste is extra tasty.

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a cheap tent and set it up indoors on top of scrap cardboard.
    Buy canned food and a small tea light stove to heat it on.
    Layers: extra socks, long underwear, knit hats.
    Yes it can be safe to use a fire indoors but you can't be stupid about it. Use it for cooking not warmth.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Also, keep quiet about your food and other supplies. People who are cold and hungry will come after you for your stuff.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Does someone have the Yugoslavia anons wartime paste?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was thinking the same thing

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I was thinking the same thing

          is this it?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            yes

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            keep in mind, lads, that anon was in a 'city' of only 6,000 people

            imagine being trapped in a city of 60,000, 600,000, etc.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, ty.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sounds like someone's fantasy.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it does a little bit, for example, the part about being behind a brick wall in gun fights, like that would protect them from AKs. otoh, it's better than nothing, better than drywall

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This has been confirmed bullshit. The dude was banned from the forums he posted on when he couldn't provide any proof to inconsistencies and questions.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Buy a cheap tent and set it up indoors on top of scrap cardboard.

      I like this idea.

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fill your appartment with people. Sleep 10 to a room. Body heat will keep you warm and splitting the bill amongst 40 people will bring it down to nothing. It's how the pakis manage.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fill your appartment with people. Sleep 10 to a room.
      For some reason I imagined this in Human Centipede style.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ofcourse you did. Youre russian after all

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fill your appartment with people. Sleep 10 to a room.
      Yeah, take Poles-in-UK pill!

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Slow ruchańsko with hot Karyna will keep you warm and boost your morale. You can postpone the worry about potential child support payments until next summer.

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Pick up some traps and snares to catch wild game in your shitty woods. Get a 12 gauge with some different chokes to hunter fowl. Get a wood stove, your wood won't be seasoned so once you get it going bring in some wood to dry out around the stove to keep it going. Canned protien, cod liver oil, sweet potatoes, winter squash.

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just use a electric blanket

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wear no cotton in very cold weather. Use wool or synthetics. Nothing beats wool when its dry, andcits not bad wet. Synthetics dry quickly. Cotton sucks moisture from the air in the cold and becomes colder than nothing.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No belt. Apparent frost bite and lack of proper coat. Nature's envy.

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ah, another thing that you should know. if you have a metal container and attach a pipe to it that goes down into another container, and then another pipe in that container that goes into another container, you can create a waxy fuel that's basically diesel from plastic. any plastic, cut it up, put it in the first container, and heat it. the gas will go through the tube and in the first container you'll get a waxy kerosene like substance, in the next container you'll get a yellowy fuel, and if you keep that line going you'll eventually get a liquid diesel and from that very last container you have a metal pipe. that last pipe will emit propane gas, which you can use to feed that fire in the beginning of the process. just don't do it inside and keep the containers a safe distance from the fire. you'll probably have to keep an eye on the tubes so they don't fill with waxy stuff.

    that's only for apocalyptic end times circumstances though, it's for sure illegal. people aren't supposed to know you can turn plastic into fuel, it's a not so secret secret. you can go on youtube and find a million videos that show you how to do it. a lot of islands fuel themselves from diesel derived from plastic.

    you definitely can't do it inside, it has to be outside and from what i've read (never done it myself) it'll smell like absolute chemical death. probably don't want to get any of the goop on your skin or breathe any of those fumes.

  25. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    read up on the struggles of the eastern front in ww2.
    food, boots, thick jackets, firewood. in this order.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      bump

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      CF winter parka masterrace.

      CF cold wat issue cold weather pants (wool)

  26. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I fucking told you homosexual months ago to get fucking prepared. Fuckkkkk

  27. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    great thread

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You live in the uk where winters are mild. Just wear a warm jumper and make sure you have a thick blanket for the night.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heat your home with the corpses of dead sandnaggers

  30. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just wood and extra clothing
    lmao fucking retards

  31. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The safe way to heat a home is with the furnace. To limit heat loss cover all windows thickly with blankets, cardboard or similar. Put weather stripping on doors to ensure an air tight seal.

  32. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Buy a tent that has space blanket material lining it.
    Mylar will help in a pinch.
    A sleeping bag meant for -20 ferenheit should keep you warm and snug forever.
    Solar panels and battery chargers for your laptop and phones.
    Basically look up what techies bring to camp in the winter and incorporate that into your life.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Solar + dewalt batteries.

      Once i get the inverter im self sufficient and can charge for awhile until it all breaks, still. Ill have music and its more or less silent. Fucking have to buy a heatet jacket to get the USB charger.

  33. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its easier to warm a person than an area

  34. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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      Anonymous

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        Anonymous

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          Anonymous

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            Anonymous

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              Anonymous

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  35. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    start throwing kale, turnip, radish, mustard, brussels sprouts, bok choi, broccolli and cauliflower seeds down around your turf, the big ones can handle snow and freeze, pick em when hungry

  36. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I know it's a bit of a last resort but you can just eat your neighbors. Lots of fat and protein, make bone soup, skulls make good souvenirs if you survive the season, etc.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Lots of fat
      Most of that fat isn't the healthy fat. It is more plastic crap they ate. It will get you through the winter, but don't rely on it for too long.

  37. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    With no money you’re going to suffer.
    If you have money I’d suggest wool bedding. If you have family like children bring them into your bed and sleep since the body heat will stave off most of the cold. In the mornings heat this bad boy up and keep it running with 2 logs every 2 hours or so. Get a cast iron pot and a pan and use those to cook your food. You’re gonna want to stay in one room which is why the people of old had a purpose for a living room. Now you’ll have to potentially nagger rig this wood stove on bricks so you can stay warm this winter.

  38. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All you need is Jesus and a KJV Bible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      G

      Amen

  39. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    listen to grandparents.

  40. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All you retards forget that survival means not attracting hordes of mindless starving packs which means no fires allowed unless you want company

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      unless you are isolated

      isolation is key

  41. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Bongs living like freezing 1930 bums warming their hole riddled fingerless gloved hands over a trash fire in a 55 gallon drum

    Damn it feels good to have a Jap kerosene mini furnace with free fuel thanks to being a poor autistic. Guess you and the Krauts are going to have a cold winter, buck up at least winterchan will freeze out the refugees.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      City homosexuals that never slept cozy below freezing under a tarp in a down bag.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd get one of these if clean paraffin/ indoor kerosene wasn't so expensive. Although a butane heater seems better

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Kerosene is not safe indoors.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          My great great great grandparents kerosene lamps and the kerosene heater i grew up with disagree

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In a drafty shack maybe, but they do emit carbon monoxide.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Thank you Safety Sally.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If carbon monoxide concentration in the air is too high, signs of poisoning may occur within 1-2 hours. A very high carbon monoxide concentration can kill an exposed individual within 5 minutes.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                A kerosene heater will get the room so damned warm even on low you will have to open the door or window a bit to let some of the heat out. Fresh air will not be a problem unless you are a innercity zoomie nagger retard.
                You know, like all those coons in TX that gassed themselves with BBQ grills.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Realistically if you have a carbon monoxide alarm then you're going to be absolutely fine. I wonder why they don't make kerosene or butane heaters with exhaust ducts you can put out a window like a portable AC unit?

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Just crack some windows. Heat goes to the cold and will draw air away from the heater and out the window.

                But yeah, you can be dead in 5 minutes no prob.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know you can crack the windows, but a room sealed unit would be cool if a company started making them. Issue I suppose is the exhaust air duct getting very hot. If you diluted it with excess air maybe that would work. So a blower between the intake hose and exhaust hose to cool the exhaust duct down.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Don't those Japanese heaters use kerosene? I think they use a more refined fuel, called paraffin in the UK. I think it's also known as lamp oil. It's refined so that all the aromatics are removed. It's pointless though as it costs so much money you might as well just use mains gas or electricity.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            $100 for 2 20 gal drums of indoor grade kerosene where I live, which will cover me through winter usually. I only run it while im awake.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >winterchan will freeze out the refugees.

      They go straight into heated hotels as the British people freeze, serves us right for our apathy and indifference.

  42. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Start chopping tree branches to dry them out now.

  43. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Things are going to be real fun here where it gets to -30 for weeks at a time in winter and -15 to -20 is considered a normal winter day for months. Gon' have to get me some of them Red Cross blankets.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Hudsons bay blankets are great and used to spread typhus.

  44. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a good sleeping bag and make a liner for it with a bed sheet. it will trap more body heat.

    eat something warm before sleeping and pee before going to bed. Your body will have to keep that fluid at 98 degrees which burns energy that keeps you warm.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Small spaces like boxes will reflect body heat around you and prevent you from being seen inside a car or van. Just looks like a couple long boxes. Dark inside too so you can sleep in.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I throw a couple of those cheap air-activated hand warmers in my bag about an hour before I turn in. That shit is great for pre-heating the footbox.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I'm cheaper. I boil a little water in a pan, pour out the water, and just shove the hot pan down there.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You don't physics. It hardly takes any extra energy to keep pee warm. All that matters is how much heat escapes through your skin. Having a full bladder will very slightly increase your surface area. That's it.

  45. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get one of these. Just burns scraps and twigs. Stealthy.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's pretty easy to make with just some metal tubes and basic welding skills. But if you don't have one, you can make one out of mud, like they do in Haiti.

      https://www.rechoroket.com/english-booklet

  46. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'll never have to buy stove fuel.

  47. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?
    Tea candles are incredibly cheap, can be used to boil water (its not ideal, but its safe and cheap)
    If you're gonna light firewood, dont use wet. It'll smoke like fuck and that sucks. Also if youre gonna cook outside, people are gonna smell it. People will smell you cooking if you cook inside as well. Stuff to take into account when stocking up.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      see

      unless you are isolated

      isolation is key

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, those that can manage it. Those that cant should rethink tons of bags of rice and beans, since you cant access those calories if you cant cook.
        Peanut butter and canned meat/fish is the way for those people.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          better, but let's be honest. when people are starving they're going to be going house to house any fucking way

  48. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i thought brexiting made you immune to this britbong?

  49. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    holy fuck what a pussy you are. we have mild winters and you are crying you are going to be to cold.
    are you a pussy?

  50. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Alcohol penny can stoves are free and safe indoors. The alcohol is poured into the center reservoir and then lit.

    The vapors escape from a ring of small holes to create a nice even fire. The flame ignites the vapors, not the liquid fuel.

    Two ounces of alcohol will burn for 10-15 minutes depending on the type of alcohol you are burning. An alcohol burner is a basic tool that may prove quite valuable in an emergency situation whether you are cooking indoors or evacuating.

    Sterno cans are easy and cheap too.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ive been raiding the hand sanitizer in portapotties for like a year incase i have to do that.

      70-90% works. But pure is best obv.

  51. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why no solar panels + space heater suggestions?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      nothing beats a good wood stove to heat a small shack and cook on

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I built a cabin solar power system. 4 large panels (each 350W), a 3000W inverter/charger, and a 7kwh battery. It's enough to run my well pump, lights, fridge, and electronics. A small space heater drains it to 0 in 6 hours.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do they produce 350W even in winter during the daytime?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, not even close. Have to be much more prudent with power use in the winter. The days are shorter and the sun does not get as high in the sky. Also, snow and frost cover the panels and block what little light shines on them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            coiled black garden hose, behind plexi glass.

  52. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Here's where I live.

  53. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the "Great Depression" . . . within a couple of months, all of the accessible wildlife was immediately hunted-out. You'll also find this out too the hard way

  54. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Communal cooking is way more efficient and cheaper than cooking for one.

  55. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    kerosene-wicks.com/kerosene-heater-safety.htm

  56. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is there a public building, not private property, next to a forest or woods? I'd camp out near it then at night use outside outlets to charge shit and usually they have fresh water somewhere.

  57. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    We just came through winter it was comfy as fuck with the fire blazing and all. And now we are heading into longer days and beautiful warmth, swimming at the beaches. Chur bro.

  58. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a paraffin/kerosene heater from Amazon etc. 100 year old technology that was still mainstream in the late 1970's. Fuel is dead cheap. £35 or so for 16 liters, and the heater will only use 0.2 L for a whole hour. The heaters in pic attached may look similar to lanterns but they are much bigger and burn combustion gases in a second stage. You can actually stick a pot of kettle on top if you want.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fuel is dead cheap. £35 or so for 16 liters

      where do you get it that cheap? I'm seeing on amazon a gallon for $25

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Amazon UK from a UK seller. Paraffin is dirt cheap here if you just want standard paraffin and not the "clean" burning stuff for lighting lamps that don't burn their exhaust gases in a second stage.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You can get waste fry oil for free if you are desperate enough. It's literally a waste product.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nah, parrafin oil seems like the best solution, it's expensive tho

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You have to buy fuel oil, whereas waste veg oil is free if you know a restaurant owner.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Cooking oil is too thick to wick up a heater or lamp designed for paraffin. It'll just about wick up a single centimeter above the fuel. It's why old pre-paraffin oil lamps were saucer-like. A pool of vegetable or olive oil with the wicks just hanging over the side. Lamps only got tall when thinner paraffin was introduced because it could wick up much further.

  59. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    a gun and a mask

  60. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Set up your own kotatsu. I've done this myself and it works great. Peg or drape a blanket over a table so it touches the ground, then stick the smallest electric heater under the table (oil filled radiator is best - you can get tiny ones). The heater keeps that small space nice and toasty and you just tuck yourself into it like it's a bed.

    Also, hot water bottles are amazing. I didn't use the central heating at all last winter, just hot water bottles. Stick one on your lap and your own circulatory system will pump the irradiated heat around your body. Toasty warm for no money.

  61. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lots of tuna, beans and oats

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this, but too much tuna can be problematic. canned salmon and sardines are good, even if they are more expensive

      I have a lot of tuna, but since I read about mercury toxicity I've been buying salmon

  62. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1) Go to your fast food joint and ask for their waste fry oil
    2) Buy a car diesel heater, they're about 100 euros. Install it in your car, and insulate it well.
    3) You need maybe 12-14 5-gallon jugs of waste fish and chips oil to survive 1 winter in an off grid situation.
    4) Install it in your apartment with the muffler pointed outside your window. Close all the doors in your apartment and just heat that room for the winter.

  63. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The knowledge that human fat burns and a stolen McDonald drive thru sign to lure faties to your fire place.

  64. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What things does someone need to survive the coming winter with next to no money. I'm talking survival stuff.

    You need the book "capital" from Marx, 52 volumes with Lenin's writings and a few loyal comrades. Tools, weapons, food, medicines, etc. are useless without the right approach, common ideas and the right ideological education. If you have food, and your neighbor has weapons, but none of you have read the works of Lenin and Marx, one of you will surely die. Let's say you survive and get food and weapons, but how long will you be able to hold out alone? You can break a leg or an arm, a pack of hungry wolves can attack you, or you can meet an angry bear in the forest, and be sure that one gun is not enough, because the bear hunts all his life and knows the forest perfectly well, and you are just a guest there. Only collective labor, collective security and collective economy can restore humanity after the end of the world.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude if your flying a hammer and sickle you are getting dropped on principle.

  65. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And the only day is sunday(1219

  66. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    > Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?
    Burning charcoal inside is perfectly safe -- the carbon monoxide ensures you will feel no pain when the fire goes out of control.

  67. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For God’s sake don’t run a generator inside. You will die of asphyxiation. You will see a lot of that this winter.

  68. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Also set up a tent in your house and sleep in that.

  69. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    start stacking firewood everyday now until it hard frosts or your gonna die

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Average low there in in January is like 40f, they don't get hard frosts

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      At least I'd die understanding apostrophes.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >live in alberta.
      >have wi dstorm.
      >knocks trees down.
      >just go outside with my skillsaw and cut them up.
      >pile them in my front yard where my garden should be.
      >everyone else has a garden.
      >frens and i walk around in cammies fairly often.

      >probably going to have useless boomers asking us to sheppard them because the news said to shelter in place and their scared.
      >large etrian/somallian population.

  70. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What things does someone need to survive the coming winter
    I'm gonna cut members of parliament open and sleep in their carcasses like oh so many tauntauns.

  71. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a wood stove. Store a few months supply of fresh water. Have bottles of alcohol for sterilizing wounds and tools, fires and bartering. I would reccomend canning homemade food. Canned food lasts a long ass time so long as you do it right.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the water may be the hardest thing to come by, if the pipes freeze. can melt snow/ice but there's no guarantee it will always be there

  72. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Okay, I will answer seriously: insulate your body. That's all there is to it. You are a 100 watt heater. You need to shed 100% of that heat to survive. Simple thermodynamics. Whatever temperature differential is needed to create 100W of heat loss is what you will be sleeping in.
    If you have access to a structure you are going to be fine. What you need is clothing and blankets. In addition build a tent in your room from tarps or blankets to trap a smaller air pocket. Sleep under a pile of blankets inside that. Line that tent with reflective material, especially mylar emergency blankets.
    You can raise the temperature of such a shelter by a surprising degree with a single candle. Be careful though if you fall asleep and knock over the candle you will die horribly.
    Clothing comes in two layers -- an inner moisture wicking layer and outer insulating layers of wool or fleece. Avoid cotton. If outside add a third outer shell layer for wind and water proofing. Cover your head, it's a radiator.
    If stuck outdoors you want to Google "Mars kochanski super shelter". This requires minimalist materials to make, and can be heated to a high degree with a very small fire. Google "Dakota fire pit" to learn how to make a tiny, discreet fuel efficient fire for cooking and heating. Another more resource intensive technique that can be useful in truly brutal cold is the fire bed -- dig a trench about the length and width of your body, about as deep as it is wide. Fill with firewood. Have a large bonfire, letting it burn for a couple of hours at least. Then bury it in earth to put it out. You can sleep on this heated ground -- it will stay warm for many hours.
    Consume enough calories. This will directly affect your ability to stay warm. Heating water to make tea or simply drinking hot water is valuable as well. Also stay hydrated. If you really expect this to be an issue gain some weight while you can for insulation.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get yourself in shape -- not lean necessarily, but build some muscle and get some cardio in. You can shiver and stay alive longer with deeper glycogen reserves, which you get from lifting and from cardio. A fat muscular person can survive a much larger calorie deficit for much longer than a simply fat person. A cold adapted human body can easily burn 5000-6000 calories a day. If you are exposed to the cold you WILL almost certainly struggle to eat enough this winter.
      Acclimate. Expose your body to increasing amounts of cold weather now while you still have some control of your environment. Turn the heat down. Suffer a little. The human body has great capacity to increase it's heat output but it takes 24-72 hours to acclimate. This costs calories, so only do this if you can replace them.
      Finally, learn some thermodynamics. Understand radiatitive heating, evaporation, conduction and convection -- a little physics goes a long way when trying to improvise. This is a reasonably easy engineering problem if you understand what is going on.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Get yourself in shape -- not lean necessarily, but build some muscle and get some cardio in. You can shiver and stay alive longer with deeper glycogen reserves, which you get from lifting and from cardio. A fat muscular person can survive a much larger calorie deficit for much longer than a simply fat person. A cold adapted human body can easily burn 5000-6000 calories a day. If you are exposed to the cold you WILL almost certainly struggle to eat enough this winter.
      Acclimate. Expose your body to increasing amounts of cold weather now while you still have some control of your environment. Turn the heat down. Suffer a little. The human body has great capacity to increase it's heat output but it takes 24-72 hours to acclimate. This costs calories, so only do this if you can replace them.
      Finally, learn some thermodynamics. Understand radiatitive heating, evaporation, conduction and convection -- a little physics goes a long way when trying to improvise. This is a reasonably easy engineering problem if you understand what is going on.

      good posts

  73. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysw6CEbSiak&t=2s
    How to stay warm in snow with a blanket and a candle

    This one is about making extremely long lasting candles for heat with crisco.

    there are plenty of ways to stay warm. Biggest issue is going to be staying safe from those who didnt prepare and are going to beg or kill you for materials, food and other things that will be in short supply. Stock up while you can and try to not make it obvious you are warm. Appear like youre struggling too.

    Realistically, all you would need to stay warm for 1 winter is a tent, 3-4 crisco containers (big ones), wicks or decent string and good blankets and gear. Everything else you might need is something you gotta plan on your own but should be obvious like food. You can cook it and even melt ice for water with your heat source. Its gonna suck ass but if you play your cards right you might be able to lure over a QT to come enjoy your warm tent with you.

  74. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Drink sewage. The fever will keep you warm.
    *H.M.Government advice 2022.

  75. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you've got a bus pass, get a couple of power banks off Amazon, take a decent length journey on the bus since most of them have heating and plug all your shit in to charge it

    Candles can raise room temperature by a few degrees,stock up on them now before the energy prices shoot up.

    Find a local army surplus and get some gear from there like sleeping back, decent thermal underwear etc

    Find out the date of the energy price increase then dump as much money into your meter as you can the day before, this will keep you on the old prices a while longer

    Unrelated- my cereal looks like london

  76. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?
    Have you tried lighting your farts?

  77. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Put a jumper on you little homosexual. It doesn't get that cold here.

  78. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You shouldn't be allowed to burn wood. Combustion releases co2 and contributes to global warming.

  79. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    nagger, you dont need to overdramatise, British Isles are not Siberia, besides, no one knows if Pussian threats have any chance of fullfilling. That being said, you can prepare yourself for cheap by getting warm clothes and a stove. Literally buy some used fleeces, cheap long johns, warm socks and a blanket or two and thats all. As for the stove I would advise one that burns liquid fuel rather than gas cans - because you will be almosta always able to buy, trade or steal car fuel, but pressurised gas cans will be among the first things bought out, as lazy normies only know about them and often have those cheap chink barbecue stoves that use them. So for stove I would get a wick kerosene stove with spare wicks - chinese one like pic rel. Or a pressurized gasoline stove, depending on what fuel is more popular where you live. You can cook meals on both and they will also heat your kitchen up to few degrees (although be wary about carbon monoxide and mpoisture, dont seal your house completely, like some tards here are advising). If you fear food shortages, then stock up on rice (or groats, potato puree, pasta or qusqus), lentils (very nutricious and take little time to cook, unlike beans or onions), cooking oil, salt, sugar and spices (mandatory for bland food), dried vegetables (ones without salt) dried or canned fruits and chocolate to boost the mood and some other shelf stable things that you like eating on a daily basis and that take little effort and fuel to prepare. Research pajeet cuisine, their dhals and other goyslops are stupid simple to make, tasty and nutricious)

  80. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had no problems a couple of winters with -5 outside and no heating with a jacket and a thick sweater inside the house.

    Unless you live in northern Finland heating is not absolutely mandatory.

  81. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?"
    OP never heard about pic related

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ironic that pic is in London since they're illegal now and most places have their fireplaces bricked up

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      these things are great, really warms up a cabin in no time

  82. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can't attest to it myself, but I know my grandparents use to heat stones on the stove then wrap them in thick towels and sleep with them in the bed to keep it warm all night.
    I don't know what kind of rock would be ideal though, metal would work better I assume.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big ass river rocks work well I've heard. I also heard if you pick the wrong type of rock, it can explode. So there is definitely a right and wrong type of stone for this.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yea, that's why I would go with metal if I had to do it. Should be easy enough these days to find an old barbell weight or something else that's solid iron.

        I think most rocks would probably be fine as long as they're dry, since you're not trying to melt the thing, just get it nice and warm. There is always the risk that you fuck up and heat it too much though. Better to just avoid the risk altogether and use metal.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >big river rocks
        >wrong type it can explode
        you picked the exact fucking type of rock that will explode you goober

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yea, that's why I would go with metal if I had to do it. Should be easy enough these days to find an old barbell weight or something else that's solid iron.

        I think most rocks would probably be fine as long as they're dry, since you're not trying to melt the thing, just get it nice and warm. There is always the risk that you fuck up and heat it too much though. Better to just avoid the risk altogether and use metal.

        I think metal has some disadvantages compared to rock

        1) Rocks tend to have higher specific heat capacity than metals. I just quickly checked some values and for example iron has 0.45 J/gK while granite has almost double that, 0.79 J/gK. What this means, is that it takes less energy to heat iron to a given temperature, but it will also take less time for iron to give up this energy as it cools down to ambient temperature. So the same mass of rock will keep you warm longer assuming you heated both to let's say 100 C in a pot. Another way to say this is that the same mass of rock will hold twice as much thermal energy than iron does at some given temperature.

        2) Metals have very high thermal conductivity compared to rock. Meaning hot metals transfer thermal energy to anything they're in contact with quickly. I think you would have to wrap the iron very well to not burn your hands, whereas with the rock you could get away with less wrapping. And the thermal conductivity would contribute to the iron cooling down even faster compared to the rock. The heated piece of iron could be uncomfortably hot for a short time, and then go cold, while a rock would give off heat more evenly for a longer time.

        One advantage iron has is that it's much more dense than rock, so for a given mass you'd have a much more compact object, which may be convenient. But to hold equivalent thermal energy compared to some rock your piece of iron still needs to have twice the mass. So it's really a question of whether you want smaller mass and bigger volume (rock) or smaller volume and bigger mass (iron) to hold some amount of thermal energy.

        Rocks are also easier to find than a convenient piece of iron (cannonball, barbell or similar).

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This

        >big river rocks
        >wrong type it can explode
        you picked the exact fucking type of rock that will explode you goober

        A rock will only "explode" if it has water trapped in it (which tries to expand as it boils) and even so it's not likely to "explode" as much as it is likely to just kind of fall apart with a loud noise

        If you're trying to set up right now, israelitegle is telling me soapstone and marble are your best choices.

        Or move somewhere that you won't freeze to death even if you sleep outside naked, that's what I did

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          depends on the area, but I have definitely had rock throw pieces hard enough to break skin.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess it'd depend on the rock type and how evenly the water inside heats

            But hey I'm no geologist, just don't heat up rocks from rivers

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              im not a geologist either. just like fucking around with stuff in the woods as a bored teen, and knew about how rocks could explode and was actively trying to get them to. Found some cool geodes because of it, as well as a couple imbedded pieces of stone in my skin.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Big ass river rocks work well I've heard. I also heard if you pick the wrong type of rock, it can explode. So there is definitely a right and wrong type of stone for this.

      Or you can just sleep with a termophor/bottle filled with hot water. But first make sure it doesnt leak.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My granny had a huge wood stove that she cooked on during the day and kept a shitload of bricks on it. By the time the stove stops brining during the night the bricks are red hot and still enough to warm you till morning.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bricks are a good idea

  83. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have to make a list about your neighbourhood to know where you should start the raids.

  84. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wood is also in Siberia.

  85. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://ia802902.us.archive.org/32/items/fieldguidetowildernesssurvival/Tom%20Browns%20Field%20guide%20to%20wilderness%20survival.pdf

  86. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For an Aussie who grew up in a desert before moving to the highlands -8c was absolutely miserable at night, like heat is annoying but ice cold is absolutely oppressive, euro's tell me -8c is bitch weather compared to their winters... I pray for U this winter eurobros

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      -20 is assured here every winter, -30 is possible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      -25 is nothing in winter here, I don't understand how idiots freeze to death, as long as you are inside and you have windows and blankets how are you freezing

  87. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the most important thing is to wear many layers of clothes. 3 good layers should keep you very warm.
    1st layer: thermal underwear
    2nd layer: pullover, like a hoody
    3rd layer: insulated flannel shirt.
    And wear a hat.
    You could also wear a balaclava or scarf

  88. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For all the anons saying tough it out, you don't need heat...
    how do you plan to keep the water pipes and shitter from freezing solid?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Shit outside, humans have been doing it longer than we have been using toilets

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Remember to only use the designated shitting street though (it will be designated after toilets freeze)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Just shit in a pot and throw it out of your bedroom window into the street.

  89. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    and i even did it after reading pic related.

  90. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    All you need a good sleeping bag, there are bags rated for survival in the arctic, in one of them you dont need anything else. Get a disposable one too and cut holes for you arms and leggies

  91. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically buy tea candles and flower pots and make heaters. They wont heat your whole house but they wont burn it down either or suffocate you either.

    https://crisisequipped.com/can-you-heat-a-room-with-a-candle/

    See if you can get a tent stove or build a jet stove too.

  92. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >omg omg I'm going to freeze to death omg
    >omg omg omg omfg
    all these whining europussies are getting a wee bit disgusting tbqh

  93. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    OP, a lot of replies here focus on the methods of heating, but I would suggest methods of heat retention inside the appartament.

    I was born near the Urals, borderline Siberia and it was common in the winter to go below -30C.

    I've spent a fair share of my winters in the countyside, where only one of the rooms in the house was heated and the rest remained cold. Here's what they did:
    - insullate the windowframe, basic office adhesive tape should do the job - apply 2-3 coats around the window frame, not the glass itself. For the curtains you can use a hard woolen blanket.
    - insullate the outer walls of the appartament, doable with basic blankets, especially if they are made of hard wool of smth;
    - insullate your floors - CARPETS and finish with insullating your feet - wear 2 pairs of socks while at home - 1 regular and 1 woolen above the basic pair.

  94. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get thermal underwear that skiers wear when they go skiing

    Make sure your upper body and head stay as warm as possible, arms and legs are irrelevant

    Blankets and hibernate, go to a public place to warm yourself up every other week (although thats for pussies)

    Hibernating has the advantage of not requiring food. You can go without any food and very little water, for months. In fact, eating makes you more susceptible to feeling the cold. I fast during winter and anything up to -10 degrees in my apartment goes by unnoticed.

  95. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Close windows, wear sweaters, do wim hoff breathing.
    That shit actually works, you can feel your whole body glowing after a controlled breathing session.
    Heating is probably not the biggest thing you want to think about right now.

    The biggest thing you want to focus on is stocking up on food. Cans are great, dried stuff is great too.
    Packs of flour costs cents and last for at least a year. One pack is like a week worth of bread.
    Buy vitamin pills as well, and maybe buy whey powder so you can mix it with the flour and make protein bread.
    Buy dried pasta and rice, and precooked meats like hamburgers that you can toss in the fridge to thaw out and eat at a later time.
    Buy cans of soup or better yet, stew, with plenty of meat.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Learn to hump preps.

      Went on a ruck march with 18 small cans. 4 medium cans and 3 tins of meat (6lb)

      Great exercise.

  96. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw Florida man
    Never heard of winter, just some chilly days in January and February

  97. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Last winter using polystyrene coving adhesive I stuck inch-thick polystyrene sheets to my bedroom ceiling. I have an uninsulated flat roof that is made of concrete and any heater put in that room had to heat that whole concrete slab as well as the room. After installing the polystyrene it took next to no energy to heat that room. It's much cooler there in the summer too.

  98. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?
    make a small furnace on your backyard
    buy iron tubes that pass high-temperature water in it (a normal one used to get water to shower is fine)
    do a circle with the iron tubes passing through the furnace and underneath your house
    use some pump to make the water rotate around the tube
    put fire on the furnace
    water will heat up
    pump will make heated water flow through tubes underneath house
    house will warm up
    be confy
    this is not a joke, this is actually how it is done.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >buy iron tubes that pass high-temperature water in it (a normal one used to get water to shower is fine)
      Surely you mean copper?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know what these are made for but I think you are correct fren. I wanted to emphasize the tube must be made of metal not to melt in case OP-anon is a retard.

  99. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should be more worried about where you're going to get food. I'm sure you can figure out how to stay warm and get water, but stocking / finding enough food for 3+ months is the real challenge

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stocking food is not hard. it's still cheap.

      defending it will be a challenge, when all your neighbors are starving. which is why it's much better to be in the countryside

      >To have canned goods-and have it known by anyone outside your own household-is to invite assassination. If you do not believe that a man will commit murder for one can of tomatoes, then you have never been hungry.
      https://greyenigma.wordpress.com/2013/03/04/how-to-be-a-survivor-by-robert-heinlein-1945-via-free-dominion

      also, cities are primary targets for WMDs

      >There will be no time to get out after rockets are launched. You will have to outguess events. This is a tricky assignment at best and is the principal reason why it is much better to live in the country in the first place, but you stand a fair chance of accomplishing it if you do not insist on being blindly optimistic and can overcome a natural reluctance to make a clean break with your past-business, home, clubs, friends, church-when it becomes evident that the storm clouds are gathering.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >where you're going to get food.

      bulk bags of rice, canned soup, spam, "luncheon" meat. Get in the habit, right now, of only eating twice a day. Midmorning and right before bed.

  100. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  101. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What things does someone need to survive the coming winter with next to no money.

    A shelter.

    When we are talking gas shortages and lack of a heate flat, we're not talking about difficulties to survive, at least not for healthy individuals between ages 4 and 80.

  102. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you havent prepared yet and need to ask, you are not gonna make it

  103. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wear thermal clothing, thermal long sleeve and thermal pants underneath your clothing to reduce having to use heating every day.

  104. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vodka + addidas training suite

  105. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    useless city people

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      sledge axe, even

      but yah, most of us are still in the city :/

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the sledge is only appropriate for logs with a flat face cut by a chainsaw. if you are bucking your own tree with your felling axe you wont get any use from the sledge even after bucking. erase from your mind the mental picture you have of placing a log on a stump and whacking it in half.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          doesn't have to be a chainsaw, you can take a regular saw cut a tree up into choppable portions

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            its called bucking and the amount of energy it takes to buck with a crosscut saw is several times over an axe, before the chainsaw it was only done for lumber, not firewood. i understand useless city people have turned their mental picture from hollywood movies into a real practice, erase it.

            • 4 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              not all city people are useless, plenty of us have experience in the wild

              and I don't buy it that people weren't sawing trees for firewood before chainsaws

              the motion is not that energy consuming contrasted with swinging an axe around, which is harder on the joints and more dangerous. then a sledge axe on a flat surface is easy as pie to split

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your predilection is entirely based in ignorance. the loggers considered switching from the saw to bucking with an ax as TAKING A BREAK. swinging a 2.25 lb boys ax is EASY and uses the biomechanics your rock throwing monkey arms PERFECTLY. the linear motion of a saw affords the mechanical advantage of your joints NO FAVORS. just read cooks ax book and stop opining on things you know very, very little about.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                your image does nothing for your argument. a quick glance to sites actually devoted to this shows you are wrong, and my own experience tells me the same. try bucking a large oak with just an axe, for example. cutting against the grain is easier with a saw

                https://bushcraftusa.com/forum/threads/saw-vs-axe-this-had-to-be-discussed-here.221326

                https://www.overhangadventures.com/overhang-adventures-blog/axe

                etc.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I wouldn't want to saw wet wood, even with a 2-man saw. I'd buck it to 8', split it to portable sizes, and then stack it for cross-cut sawing in the next season. The only advantage of bucking fresh over splitting lengths is if you're selling it for stacking to someone else.

                If it does all come apart, landowners are going to realise gamekeepers and woodsmen are a better investment than fences.

              • 4 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >then stack it for cross-cut sawing in the next season

                sure, if you have the luxury of waiting. I haven't had too much trouble sawing fresh wood of medium sized trees, then splitting them with an axe or sledge axe from there. dries faster that way too

                >If it does all come apart, landowners are going to realise gamekeepers and woodsmen are a better investment than fences.

                it's good to have both. not just fences either, walls.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          it's not just a mental picture, btw. I've done this already. took trees down, or better even, trees that fell in a storm, sawed them into pieces, and from split those pieces

  106. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Candles + Large ceramic pot

  107. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Is there a safe way to create heat inside a home?
    You would need a good fireplace or better yet a wood burning furnace outdoors with a heat exchange element

  108. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Go to thrift stores and buy as many 100% wool blankets as you can find. Wool is fire resistant, synthetics turn into napalm (figuratively speaking). They can be used to make rooms smaller and therefore easier to heat, as well as a cloak to keep yourself warm.

    Also, buy a small, portable wood stove that you can keep in a closet until needed. Make a sheet metal insert that you can stick in a window to run the chimney out. Insulate it on the inside with a piece of Rockwool sheet.

    You can also make heaters using tea lights, clay pots, and some washers. Youtube "clay pot survival heater"

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Is it easy to bend a straight up going stove chimney so that it can be passed through a window? The chimney consists of multiple short pipe segments that are stacked on each other.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Just buy angled flue sections. They make them for all diameters and types of flue and come in 90, 45 and other angles.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, it would have to be cut and welded, otherwise it would just kink. Much easier to just buy an angled pipe section. You must use either stainless or purpose-made stove pipe. DO NOT use galvanized HVAC duct pipe. Heating it gives off poisonous fumes.

  109. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    just burn israelites

  110. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    there is hardly below 10C the whole winter in the UK, -3C and snow for more then 3 days is rare plus chimpout.zip as some nogs never seen snow. just cover windows and sir fart a lot.

  111. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >large saw from local hardware
    >cut down 3m x 10cm thick trees
    >use any rope/cordage to build lean to shelter
    >get 5m x 5m plastic 2.5mm thick black construction sheet from local hardware store
    >stretch plastic over lean to shelter
    >build fire pit
    >get british army bivi bag and arctic sleeping bag
    >get waterproof and ratproof plastic tubs for food/clothing etc
    >get 44 gallon barrel for fire pit

  112. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    $400 for a base supply of food. Not in the photo; $11 packs of sardine cans
    Right now cans of Cloverleaf tuna are $1.38 at Loblaws. Buy them by the flat.

    Those aer green bottles of pure lime juice (no sugar) and the white jars are tahini
    Chickpeas + lime juice + tahini = hummus.

    Sacks of flour. Buy 20kg (44.4lbs) of flour for $20.00. Get blocks of yeast for $5.

  113. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    For cooking food use this, solar oven in a vaccume sealed tube, gets to 550 degrees.
    https://gosun.co/products/sport

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      pretty ingenius, but did they have to?

  114. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Get a bunch of blue tarps from a dollar store place, they are good for extra tent layers and ground protection.

    Although if you are asking for help at this basic of a level then you are probably going to die.

    Here in Canada you either own a camping kit already or are a homosexual ass communist.

  115. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Burn barrel. Kept my friend warm while he was homeless in winter, and it gets much colder here.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      water barrels/buckets, to catch rain water

  116. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    lots of thick blankets, socks, heavy clothing

  117. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    اپنی بہن کو منی کے ذائقے سے پیار کرنا سکھائیں۔

  118. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sell your assholes so you have the currency to buy things

  119. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Greetings from Newfoundland
    My hatred of israelites and love of Jesus Christ keeps me warm.

  120. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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