Why do people still believe this meme? It hasn't been relevant for years now. Shocks me how some unironically consider 10 the "good" one.
Windows good-bad cycle
Why do people still believe this meme? It hasn't been relevant for years now. Shocks me how some unironically consider 10 the "good" one.
It's irrelevant because Windows has only been going UP since Windows 7
you forgot windows 3.11 for worksgroups
and Windows NT and Windows 2000
they cant include windows 2k it will break the sign wave and tripple the satisfaction.
those were not marketed for desktop use
guyse, did you know that Vista is pretty good after we add Win 8, 10 and 11 into the equation?
if you compare vista to those, its not all bad
>It hasn't been relevant for years now
It just stopped. 8 bad, 8.1 good, 10 bad, 11 is what broke the cycle
XP good
Vista good
7 good
8 bad
8.1 good
10 good
11 bad
Vista and 8 were the only bad ones
ME was way worse
Windows ME is just better Windows 98SE without pure DOS support.
It got meme'd to death because of the divided 9x/NT systems and later the swift release of XP.
Absolutely retarded take. Broken async IO and paged mode support are serious problems, and removing real mode support took away the only advantage of being DOS based. ME only existed to bail out channel partners sitting on parts without NT drivers.
>Broken async IO and paged mode support
You have never used Windows ME
If it was on DOS and using FAT these things were non-working.
>but it was more stable for me
Irrelevant.
Enable DMA homosexual.
Not what I'm talking about. Go ask Wikipedia about the differences between FAT and NTFS.
Vista had a rough launch, not much else bad with it, 7 changed very little. 8 was lean as fuck but the new UI was terrible.
Also what the fuck, who shits on 95? God damn it, I have more to fix.
>who shits on 95?
People who had to use that crashy mess.
Everybody saw 98 as a massive improvement, but you weren't there
Nice bait. Windows 98 only got decent with the Second Edition. It was a crashy mess.
98 added massive bloat by integrating IE into everything
Windows 10 is the bad one and the good one. It normally would have been split into two separate releases like Vista+7 and 7+8.1 and 11+12. They are simply trying and failing to articulate that mature products are better than immature products.
There is no cycle. There is no good Windows except Vista. Vista revolutionized every important Windows technology and had some ideas that were genuinely ahead of their time, like MIL integration in DWM. Every other Windows is pure hot garbage with incredibly obvious flaws, and the ones that came after Vista disrespect Vista's legacy.
What makes Vista better than 7?
I mostly agree although I've only used
DOS 5
DOS 6
Windows 3.1
Windows 95
Windows 98
Windows NT 4.0
Windows XP
Windows 2000
Windows 7
Windows has never been good, although for me 2000 and 7 were the most painless.
Vista was the single worst event in the entire history of computing. It was the point at which computing died. I don't know how anyone could say Vista was good.
Pretty much every change was bad. But the worse thing was WDDM and the transparent window gimmick. Windows used to have an incredibly fast hardware accelerated gui, and it was all thrown away for transparent windows.
Vista would have been good if they backported the compositor fixes from 7. Making people pay for bug fixes like that is insanely shitty.
The win7 compositor is profoundly retarded. The update region lags one frame behind. So if you are drawing an animated object, the leading edge does not drawn. Back in the day I was writing some software which had a one pixel moving cursor, on win7 it was invisible in motion, I had to modify my code to damage one pixel ahead to make the cursor visible. Sometimes selection rectangles are not visible either.
A lot of people are still using it, so clearly not that bad. Vista buffering the entire screen space for every window was totally unacceptable and nobody would have bought it if they understood how it worked.
Compositors should not exist at all. I miss classic windows, where drawing was direct and immediate into the front-buffer as it should be.
>Compositors should not exist at all.
But also
>Why are GPUs so expensive
OS X and normalfags made them do it, as usual apple is the Ur problem
You're confused. Vista was the single greatest event in computing history. It was the point at which I decided to switch to Linux and I've had far less computer trouble since.
>MIL integration in DWM
What is that? Is it still part of Win10/11?
Vista's DWM had the compositor from WPF built in. When WPF apps run on Vista, they push all their rendering down to DWM, which means when WPF windows get transformed by the WM (eg. with the magnifying glass app,) they're never pixelated, since they're vector drawings the whole way through. This feature was removed without replacement in Windows 7.
10 is good now, but only if you use the Enterprise version. When it was initially released it was hot dog water.
Its a myth
win2k: perfection
xp/2k3 good
vista bad
7 bad, with a new coat of paint
8 cancer
10 death
11 rot
win2k was good but didn't support a lot of consumer-grade applications (lots of videogames wouldn't run on 2k).
Doom 3 was the first nt-only game, you needed win2000 minimum to play it and ditched ME and 98
after experiancing windows 11 I have to say its more like 10 is death and 11 is ressurection as an undead skellington. Its incredibly comfy even if you are basically mind controlled, and a lot of skinning actually works on it no matter the revision unlike 10
just remove the numbers and say windows bad
Other than ME and Vista they're all fine. People always blame the OS for their ill informed decisions.
Anyone still using Windows is making an ill-informed decision (unless you have to use it for work, of course).
It just gets worse every version
for the modern zoomer world standards it's the good one, yeah
fixed
ok zoomer
t. "muh fisher price os" boomer
(doesnt even complain about the performance of drawing window decls, just hates improved nt releases for no reason)
XP without service packs was trash
this
no one remembers how buggy xp was until later in life for some reason
even the kids that grew up with it would know about it
Of ones I used:
Windows 98 Bad (I run it in a VM for some 16 bit games and the littlest of mistakes like not properly shutting it down can brick it)
Windows XP pre-SP2 OK
Windows XP SP2 Excellent
Windows Vista OK
Windows 7 Excellent
Windows 8 Bad
Windows 8.1 Good
Normal Windows 10 Bad
LTSC Windows 10 Good
I've also used Windows 95, ME and 2000 before but it was when I was a kid so I don't remember what they were like
how do you feel about WinXP which has got all official Microsoft patches installed (on top of SP3)
Windows 10 is the best because it finally fixed Windows Rot.
All of them are bad.
thanks, but i'm sticking with windows xp
98 good
ME bad
XP good
vista bad
7 good
8 bad
8.1 a bit better, still worse than 7
10 bit worse than 7
11 bad
95 was actually pretty awesome for its time and people fucking hated 98 at first (it even fucked up the official launch event) but then people really started to like it when it matured (98 Second Edition)
People flipped shit every time a new DOS Windows came out because the driver base was so volatile it was a small research project whether you could safely upgrade. The only really bad one was ME because it was obsolete on release.
True and 2000 was great followed by XP which was also great. The charts are bullshit
8.1 was good, I used it for nearly 10 years. Also, people forget that XP sucked until service pack 1 fixed it.
I've never heard anyone consider 10 good. It's less bad than 10, but the best I've ever heard of it is "it's not THAT much worse than older versions".
It has never been relevant.
>Windows 95
Was amazing.
>Windows 98
Was fucking trashbad, a lot of people stayed with 95
>Windows 98SE
Was pretty good
>Windows ME
Nothing special. Gets meme'd to death mostly because of OEM retardation.
>Windows 2000
Stable, but broke compatibility with anything 16-bit.
>Windows XP
Was truly awful at first, it took Service Pack 1 for it to be actually usable. Also OEM retardation fucked it as it came with very low spec machines.
>Windows Vista
Amazing if you had the hardware for it, awful if you were running an ancient toaster.
>Windows 7
Literally just Vista.
>Windows 8/8.1
No significant difference between the two. The best OS Microsoft has made, though the UI can be trashbad.
>Windows 10
Awful BotnetOS.
>Windows 11
Same as 10.
>Windows Vista
>Amazing if you had the hardware for it, awful if you were running an ancient toaster.
This is the main point here, but the issue is that when it came out, everyone was running ancient toasters.
I wasn't.
congratulations. most of the people who brought their computers into me back then were
8 was shit, 8.1 good
launch 10 shit
10 2023 ver blessed
11 absolute bloated
12 (corepc) will be based again
>Why do people still believe this meme?
Normies have absolutely no clue about anything.
You're honestly a dumb fuck if you categorize "windows 10" as a single OS release.
It was trash on launch, and got substantially better over the 6.5 years that followed.
7 good.
8 bad.
8.1 good.
10 (1503) bad.
10 (21H2) good.
11 bad.
Windows skipped straight to the bad one by skipping windows 9
The way it actually went:
>Windows 3.11
Classic
>Windows 95
Groundbreaking
>Windows 98-Windows 7
Goyslop
>Windows 8
Kino
>Windows 8.1-Windows 11
Goyslop
Microsoft peaked at MS-DOS and even that was shit compared to DR DOS.
On meds
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Off meds
On meds
Off meds
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Off meds
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Windows 10 and 11 are perfectly fine, you are a tech incompetent schizo.
>Windows 95 was bad
give me one reason
10 is better than 8 and 11.
That's not to say it's good, just better.
ftfy
Shocks me how some unironically consider 10 the "good" one.
Compared to 11...
Vista was ok after sp1 and barely any different from 7. People hated it for retarded reasons
nvidia's shitty drivers were a major factor as to why vista was perceived as buggy
>perceived as
Explorer had a lot of serious issues that weren't resolved until way late in development, and the compositor was never fixed to give people a reason to buy 7. The only good thing about Vista was the taskbar UI.
yes it is also retarded since there have been like 16 windows releases since windows 10 1507 (build 10240) was released in 2015. the current windows 10 build has nothing in common with the first one and can't possibly be considered the same OS. they converted windows to a rolling release in 2015 with ltsb(c) branches for enterprise applications. They never considered releasing a windows 11 until long after probably because it made sense financially and it was easier to cut of older hardware. it's just continuing the same release schedule and the only difference is a small re-skin. they will probably continue this until there is some other restricition they want to introduce which makes older hardware incompatible and make a "new" windows.
fixed
Only 7 was the good one. Others, I haven't used enough, total garbage or garbage until a second edition or service pack (or 3) was released.
The every other release of windows being good or bad is just some fucktard forced pattern meme which doesn't even include the NT versions.
>"windows 98 > windows 95"
please die, if you like paying 100$ for a reskin of an already working program then you're retarded
I know OP.
8 wasn't great, in fact at the beginning it was a mess. I had my dad just bitch and moan about it being difficult to use because of what they did with the sidebar and the lack of buttons. 8.1 wasn't all that bad. It didn't take that long for the system to be honestly just stable and work fairly well.
Then 10 came out and it was a nightmare. I don't give a shit that some people thought it was better because "now the start menu is not fullscreen". It was a buggy piece of garbage that respected users much less. Their autism with changing shit between versions caused a lot of grief for me, because I had a lot of troubleshooting to do on different systems. It's ironic that it forced people to update, but half of the time windows update was so fucking broken eventually it'd just stop and the only way to go forward was to just clean it up, and at some point that's precisely what was required between semi annual versions, reinstalls, reinstalls, reinstalls. It raped audio and audio latency. I had countless issues with graphics drivers too. With their changes with schedulers. With the interface being barely functional sometimes, enough that I needed to create new user accounts to restore functionality. With fucking update bootloops up the wazoo. With being slow as molasses over VMs. With being slow as molasses with hard drives as well. It got ridiculous really. Windows 10 for years was so bad it got me to consider using hackintosh for a while.
Now about to expire pretty much, people pretend it was a great system. No, it's a fucking turd, and this is the turd you want now, so 11 is justified in its existence because you will love it too anyways when 12 is out, you silly fucking bastards.
The reason why I liked 10 was because of built in network drivers for basically any system.
Windows 7 was the last decent one there will ever be
LULZ state of
windows 2000
Windows 11 comes with AI baked in which means that it's back in the good zone.