Self improvement is dumb af. The best thing you can do in life is the stuff that makes you happy. If you are in your best spirits, maybe a girl will notice and like you. That's your only shot as an ugly fuck. There is nothing that can change your face
>There is nothing that can change your face
Yes there literally is. Facial hair, fin/minox, hair style, skincare, getting contacts over glasses, etc. Also, 83% of men 20-30 have had sex in the past year. What percentage of them do you think are ugly? Social skills can be learned slowly which will help socially retarded incels drastically. But yeah looksmaxxing should also obviously be done. Plus there's just ways you take pics -- that's a skill and it's needed if you want a hope of a girl online/on apps of liking you and you're not naturally extremely attractive.
Self improvement is dumb af. The best thing you can do in life is the stuff that makes you happy. If you are in your best spirits, maybe a girl will notice and like you. That's your only shot as an ugly fuck. There is nothing that can change your face
Furthermore, if you've been around normies for long periods of time you'll notice they never do self improvement shit they just get girlfriends naturally
i dont want to be footballchad. i want to be on the level of a mathematically normal person who doesn't have to put much effort in to find people who can stand to be around him. and meets roughly 1 woman every year or two who decides she wants to touch his penis. surely that is not a high bar
I've seen the men women call ugly and they had nothing wrong with their skin. You are coping. Ugly people exist and you need to grow up and admit it.
There different ways you can be ugly, correct. The corrections I gave would help a huge portion of ugly men but not all of them. Plus most ugly men find gf's/sex anyway since they're not socially retarded, so you can also learn how to be social.
Random women spontaneously wanting to fuck you means you can very, very easily find a gf, you never have to be lonely, etc.
I never viewed myself as a hood looking guy. I have a big nose, I look young, my face is generally kinda unpleasant, I'mnot tall. My best feature was having a fairly well toned body. I repulse myself. But, I never had an issue with girls. I got a gf easily and had enough interest that being picky was easy.
So when I saw people talk about looks being important I always thought they were stupid and felt that girls had low standards, they probably just acted like complete spergs.
A few months ago I was feeling particularly lonely so I started talking to random people from LULZ, and posting some art online. Aside from 1 or 2 people, and a couple of followers, I wasn't really getting much attention. One person I was talking to convinced me to send a picture of myself, and they were overly positive about it, borderlining creepy honestly. But it gave me enough confidence to show myself to others, and eventually show my face alongside my art.
When I did this, women started following me in much bigger numbers, and every girl I was talking to previously started reaching out to me a lot more often.
I feel like I hate these women. Anons were right, looks matter a lot.
You have an incredibly easy life but that doesn't mean that a lonely guy couldn't eventually self-improve to find love.
what? not if it only happens once every year or two. you might not like her, or the timing might be wrong. not being a total incel sperg doesn't mean life is perfect. just that it isn't torture
It happens once a year spontaneously, meaning you can just use apps and get plenty of attention.
>improvers grinding for years with no to little success >meanwhile Chad
>some people don't have to try... therefore you shouldn't try at all!
Never understood this meme.
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Anonymous
.....no. the kind of person who gets any luck at all on these male-dominated apps will have at least one girl hitting on them irl every month or so if they have any sort of a social life
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
You actually think women spontaneously want to slut out to men who get next to zero attention on apps? That makes no sense.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
what do you mean by "spontaneous" exactly. "lock eyes in da clurrrb and sprint off to the bathroom" is not what i had in mind
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Like girls apporach you. You don't try to chase women like average/ugly men have to since they come to you/make the first move. If it happens IRL
once per year you can definitely make it happen again even if dating apps wouldn't work for you for whatever reason.
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Anonymous
yeah, i didn't have that in mind. i meant more like you naturally interact through a friendship group or the like, get to know each other without artifice, no games or pickup tricks from anyone, and mutual attraction develops. a girl who would have swiped left on you on any app if she hadn't got to know you, and could only see your gay-ass profile >but that's the same thing!!!!
i don't know what to tell you if you can't see the difference
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
So just a decently charismatic normalfag? Where are you right now? Looksmaxxing/improving your social skills should take you there with time.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>decently charismatic normalfag
boom! yes i am glad we are on the same page >improve social skills
this, i have literally no idea where to begin. the dale carnegie book advice is pretty hard to apply when i have this whole brainfreezing problem. i've watched some youtube channels too, and they tell you to start small, low stakes, talk about the weather, but again i have the whole problem with freezing up in the first place
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Talking about the weather is a poor place to start if you're extremely uncomfortable with social situations. Something very basic would just be asking a stranger what time is it and saying you don't have your phone on you, then thanking them for their answer. You can become more comfortable with this and work up to other things you can say to people that don't necessitate small talk. Like you can compliment some guys shirt while he's walking past and then he can thank you and you just both move on with your day. Starting off with talking to someone at like a bus stop about the weather means they'll respond then it'll be super awkward unless they push the ball forward in the convo. It really depends on where you're at and what seems like a challenge but a doable one.
At the same time, looksmaxxing, exercising, etc. also help you just feel better about yourself and make it easier for most who are very uncomfortable socially. It feels a lot better to talk to strangers if you don't feel like you're hideous.
>You have an incredibly easy life but that doesn't mean that a lonely guy couldn't eventually self-improve to find love.
I don't feel like I do. Nobody feels like they have an easy life - we all have different struggles. Being desirable doesn't solve anything for me.
But yes, you can and should work on self-improvement. Not for external validation though.
>I can never be lonely and I'll brag about it but I don't have it easy because uhhh... I struggle with things that matter much less
Why are you even here if your blog/bragpost wasn't even supposed to be relevant?
Seriously why do you idiots keep posting this.
99% of the population does not naturally just have good things happen to them. The guy in that picture works his ass off every day to be good at football and be attractive. He also does things with others outside of school and doesn't sit in front of a computer browsing the internet all day. It didn't just "happen" to him. Same with everyone who is happy. No one "naturally" just got a girlfriend. It takes effort. Everyone dude who has a girlfriend earned it from putting effort into their appearance and personality. They did extra curricular activities. They worked out. They wore clothes that were attractive. They pursues hobbies and activities that involve others.
The people who think like this are the people who have spent their entire life in front of a computer screen.
95% of the population has normal things happen to them. the accompanying image should not have footballchad on it, it should have an ordinary kid with his ordinary gf sitting on his lap, on an ordinary couch, at an ordinary little houseparty with cans of cheap beer and little bowls of chips with four or five other ordinary people in ordinary clothes laughing and chatting to each other and maybe a couple of ordinary dudes playing xbox in the background. they have ordinary jobs and ordinary schoolwork and ordinary fears hopes and dreams and goals and interpersonal problems, and they're ordinarily happy and ordinarily sad sometimes, and they're just blowing off steam till they get back to the grind. ordinary, basic, normality. >why would you want to be ordinary
cos it's a vast improvement over what i have now. i'm a fucking useless incapable mess and nothing, no amount of educational credentials or achievements or money or possessions or muscle mass or lookmaxxing or anything, will ever change it. my brain is too broken to do any of the little tricks that will get other people to allow me to have that
addendum: i'm gonna do some fucking blogposting because i feel like it, and any homo who has a problem with it can suck my shitsmeared anus
literally the only thing i've ever been any good at in my life at all is academics, which i work pretty hard on, but i'm definitely not top of the class. funnily enough, the A students are all socially competent except this one guy*, and some of them are even what you'd call Chads or Staceys. this isn't halo effect, it's an engineering course and from conversations and group work i can definitely tell they're smarter than me. i would love to hang out with them extracurricularly instead of rotting in my room. but my face won't work right. my voice tone is all wrong. my mind goes blank and slows to a crawl whenever other people are talking, either to my face or just around me. when i do manage to croak a few words out, if they don't actively recoil they just seem confused. i learned a long-ass time ago to not even think about trying to crack a joke. they don't invite me to parties anymore. i get really fucking afraid i won't even be able to find a job because my sperg brain will flunk all the interviews (i've never even had a part time retail job cos that kept happening). i could very well end up NEETing in the gutter because i can't fucking do the little effortless hardcoded tricks that make other human beings comfortable with you
*there's this one guy among them who is definitely a robot too. i would like to get to know him but i have no idea how to approach him. i don't know anything about the dude except his silent demeanour and his resting-bitch-face. he seems incredibly shy and always vanishes. i think abt him a lot
I genuenly can't understand this low iq argument >well athlete Chad still had to train to be good
lmao no shit but without natural talent aka genetics he wouldn't be able to achieve any of that.
Sure, Messi needs to train soccer but he is Messi because of his genetics. There are plenty of athletes who train soccer and can't come close to his level.
I also trained sports in high school but because I was ugly and untalented it didn't mean shit. I was average at best.
Sure, Chad needs to train but there are many who train and still fail.
"fail" is subjective. is somebody who didn't make the Man U squad a loser who wasted his time? that makes for a lot of losers. why feel bad about being a loser with shit genetics if 99% of the world is as well
'fail' in this context would be not having any romantic experience. Chad had it. Sure he had to 'practice' or whatever but blackpill argument is that is not 'his practice' that got him laid, as there are many more who practice, but his genetics.
I'll add to this, having also done sports in high school, that your success in sports doesn't translate to romantic or social success. I may have been the fastest runner, but I was still hideous and short. I was at best regarded as a means to get the school more trophies, and more often I was platonic sonic in the green hill friend zone. Actually, I was lucky if a girl peer would tolerate me for more than 5 minutes.
I never viewed myself as a hood looking guy. I have a big nose, I look young, my face is generally kinda unpleasant, I'mnot tall. My best feature was having a fairly well toned body. I repulse myself. But, I never had an issue with girls. I got a gf easily and had enough interest that being picky was easy.
So when I saw people talk about looks being important I always thought they were stupid and felt that girls had low standards, they probably just acted like complete spergs.
A few months ago I was feeling particularly lonely so I started talking to random people from LULZ, and posting some art online. Aside from 1 or 2 people, and a couple of followers, I wasn't really getting much attention. One person I was talking to convinced me to send a picture of myself, and they were overly positive about it, borderlining creepy honestly. But it gave me enough confidence to show myself to others, and eventually show my face alongside my art.
When I did this, women started following me in much bigger numbers, and every girl I was talking to previously started reaching out to me a lot more often.
I feel like I hate these women. Anons were right, looks matter a lot.
For me I relate heavily to this song
And I'm OK with giving up
The strong desire to deal with bullshit and be the bestest of yourself you could always be was a pain in the ass.
I just want to enjoy life and to do so means giving up on every expectation and pressure placed on me. Go figure.
What are you supposed to do then? Waste away in your room browsing LULZ all day? Do the types that post this pic constantly view self-improvement just as a thing to eventually get pussy from?
so because you didnt get to be ultimate chad in high school, you should give up on life. you are all so pathetic and just looking for an excuse to remain lazy loser fucks.
Self Improvement should only be about your character and if you do it to attract women you deserve the inevitable rejections
>OH NO I WASN'T BORN A TRUST FUND BABY CHAD I HAVE TO ACTUALLY TRY IN LIFE
Wow... that's so sad.
>just suffer being lonely for life bro
>who cares about stopping it lol
Grow out of your emo phase before replying to a thread again
I accept your concession.
>There is nothing that can change your face
Yes there literally is. Facial hair, fin/minox, hair style, skincare, getting contacts over glasses, etc. Also, 83% of men 20-30 have had sex in the past year. What percentage of them do you think are ugly? Social skills can be learned slowly which will help socially retarded incels drastically. But yeah looksmaxxing should also obviously be done. Plus there's just ways you take pics -- that's a skill and it's needed if you want a hope of a girl online/on apps of liking you and you're not naturally extremely attractive.
I've seen the men women call ugly and they had nothing wrong with their skin. You are coping. Ugly people exist and you need to grow up and admit it.
>if you do it to attract women you deserve the inevitable rejections
Why the fuck else would I try to improve?
Self improvement is dumb af. The best thing you can do in life is the stuff that makes you happy. If you are in your best spirits, maybe a girl will notice and like you. That's your only shot as an ugly fuck. There is nothing that can change your face
Furthermore, if you've been around normies for long periods of time you'll notice they never do self improvement shit they just get girlfriends naturally
Post it tomorrow again. i want to see that AGAIN!
i dont want to be footballchad. i want to be on the level of a mathematically normal person who doesn't have to put much effort in to find people who can stand to be around him. and meets roughly 1 woman every year or two who decides she wants to touch his penis. surely that is not a high bar
Everyone wishes they had tutorial mode.
There different ways you can be ugly, correct. The corrections I gave would help a huge portion of ugly men but not all of them. Plus most ugly men find gf's/sex anyway since they're not socially retarded, so you can also learn how to be social.
how is what i described "tutorial mode"
Random women spontaneously wanting to fuck you means you can very, very easily find a gf, you never have to be lonely, etc.
You have an incredibly easy life but that doesn't mean that a lonely guy couldn't eventually self-improve to find love.
what? not if it only happens once every year or two. you might not like her, or the timing might be wrong. not being a total incel sperg doesn't mean life is perfect. just that it isn't torture
It happens once a year spontaneously, meaning you can just use apps and get plenty of attention.
>some people don't have to try... therefore you shouldn't try at all!
Never understood this meme.
.....no. the kind of person who gets any luck at all on these male-dominated apps will have at least one girl hitting on them irl every month or so if they have any sort of a social life
You actually think women spontaneously want to slut out to men who get next to zero attention on apps? That makes no sense.
what do you mean by "spontaneous" exactly. "lock eyes in da clurrrb and sprint off to the bathroom" is not what i had in mind
Like girls apporach you. You don't try to chase women like average/ugly men have to since they come to you/make the first move. If it happens IRL
once per year you can definitely make it happen again even if dating apps wouldn't work for you for whatever reason.
yeah, i didn't have that in mind. i meant more like you naturally interact through a friendship group or the like, get to know each other without artifice, no games or pickup tricks from anyone, and mutual attraction develops. a girl who would have swiped left on you on any app if she hadn't got to know you, and could only see your gay-ass profile
>but that's the same thing!!!!
i don't know what to tell you if you can't see the difference
So just a decently charismatic normalfag? Where are you right now? Looksmaxxing/improving your social skills should take you there with time.
>decently charismatic normalfag
boom! yes i am glad we are on the same page
>improve social skills
this, i have literally no idea where to begin. the dale carnegie book advice is pretty hard to apply when i have this whole brainfreezing problem. i've watched some youtube channels too, and they tell you to start small, low stakes, talk about the weather, but again i have the whole problem with freezing up in the first place
Talking about the weather is a poor place to start if you're extremely uncomfortable with social situations. Something very basic would just be asking a stranger what time is it and saying you don't have your phone on you, then thanking them for their answer. You can become more comfortable with this and work up to other things you can say to people that don't necessitate small talk. Like you can compliment some guys shirt while he's walking past and then he can thank you and you just both move on with your day. Starting off with talking to someone at like a bus stop about the weather means they'll respond then it'll be super awkward unless they push the ball forward in the convo. It really depends on where you're at and what seems like a challenge but a doable one.
At the same time, looksmaxxing, exercising, etc. also help you just feel better about yourself and make it easier for most who are very uncomfortable socially. It feels a lot better to talk to strangers if you don't feel like you're hideous.
>You have an incredibly easy life but that doesn't mean that a lonely guy couldn't eventually self-improve to find love.
I don't feel like I do. Nobody feels like they have an easy life - we all have different struggles. Being desirable doesn't solve anything for me.
But yes, you can and should work on self-improvement. Not for external validation though.
>I can never be lonely and I'll brag about it but I don't have it easy because uhhh... I struggle with things that matter much less
Why are you even here if your blog/bragpost wasn't even supposed to be relevant?
I have taken the apathypill so I dont tie myself in knots about any of that. I just focus on my goals and hobbies
>improvers grinding for years with no to little success
>meanwhile Chad
okay. what do you want to do about it?
>okay. what do you want to do about it?
improve myself obviously. sigma grindest baby!
Seriously why do you idiots keep posting this.
99% of the population does not naturally just have good things happen to them. The guy in that picture works his ass off every day to be good at football and be attractive. He also does things with others outside of school and doesn't sit in front of a computer browsing the internet all day. It didn't just "happen" to him. Same with everyone who is happy. No one "naturally" just got a girlfriend. It takes effort. Everyone dude who has a girlfriend earned it from putting effort into their appearance and personality. They did extra curricular activities. They worked out. They wore clothes that were attractive. They pursues hobbies and activities that involve others.
The people who think like this are the people who have spent their entire life in front of a computer screen.
95% of the population has normal things happen to them. the accompanying image should not have footballchad on it, it should have an ordinary kid with his ordinary gf sitting on his lap, on an ordinary couch, at an ordinary little houseparty with cans of cheap beer and little bowls of chips with four or five other ordinary people in ordinary clothes laughing and chatting to each other and maybe a couple of ordinary dudes playing xbox in the background. they have ordinary jobs and ordinary schoolwork and ordinary fears hopes and dreams and goals and interpersonal problems, and they're ordinarily happy and ordinarily sad sometimes, and they're just blowing off steam till they get back to the grind. ordinary, basic, normality.
>why would you want to be ordinary
cos it's a vast improvement over what i have now. i'm a fucking useless incapable mess and nothing, no amount of educational credentials or achievements or money or possessions or muscle mass or lookmaxxing or anything, will ever change it. my brain is too broken to do any of the little tricks that will get other people to allow me to have that
addendum: i'm gonna do some fucking blogposting because i feel like it, and any homo who has a problem with it can suck my shitsmeared anus
literally the only thing i've ever been any good at in my life at all is academics, which i work pretty hard on, but i'm definitely not top of the class. funnily enough, the A students are all socially competent except this one guy*, and some of them are even what you'd call Chads or Staceys. this isn't halo effect, it's an engineering course and from conversations and group work i can definitely tell they're smarter than me. i would love to hang out with them extracurricularly instead of rotting in my room. but my face won't work right. my voice tone is all wrong. my mind goes blank and slows to a crawl whenever other people are talking, either to my face or just around me. when i do manage to croak a few words out, if they don't actively recoil they just seem confused. i learned a long-ass time ago to not even think about trying to crack a joke. they don't invite me to parties anymore. i get really fucking afraid i won't even be able to find a job because my sperg brain will flunk all the interviews (i've never even had a part time retail job cos that kept happening). i could very well end up NEETing in the gutter because i can't fucking do the little effortless hardcoded tricks that make other human beings comfortable with you
*there's this one guy among them who is definitely a robot too. i would like to get to know him but i have no idea how to approach him. i don't know anything about the dude except his silent demeanour and his resting-bitch-face. he seems incredibly shy and always vanishes. i think abt him a lot
anon you and that other robot might have a future together if your willing to let him gwak gwak
Say ordinary again.
ordinary. ordinary ordinary ordinary ordinary. ordinary. what now, mfer
I genuenly can't understand this low iq argument
>well athlete Chad still had to train to be good
lmao no shit but without natural talent aka genetics he wouldn't be able to achieve any of that.
Sure, Messi needs to train soccer but he is Messi because of his genetics. There are plenty of athletes who train soccer and can't come close to his level.
I also trained sports in high school but because I was ugly and untalented it didn't mean shit. I was average at best.
Sure, Chad needs to train but there are many who train and still fail.
"fail" is subjective. is somebody who didn't make the Man U squad a loser who wasted his time? that makes for a lot of losers. why feel bad about being a loser with shit genetics if 99% of the world is as well
'fail' in this context would be not having any romantic experience. Chad had it. Sure he had to 'practice' or whatever but blackpill argument is that is not 'his practice' that got him laid, as there are many more who practice, but his genetics.
I'll add to this, having also done sports in high school, that your success in sports doesn't translate to romantic or social success. I may have been the fastest runner, but I was still hideous and short. I was at best regarded as a means to get the school more trophies, and more often I was platonic sonic in the green hill friend zone. Actually, I was lucky if a girl peer would tolerate me for more than 5 minutes.
Every time I read this I feel my chest sink in and I just get the urge to jump off my balcony
I never viewed myself as a hood looking guy. I have a big nose, I look young, my face is generally kinda unpleasant, I'mnot tall. My best feature was having a fairly well toned body. I repulse myself. But, I never had an issue with girls. I got a gf easily and had enough interest that being picky was easy.
So when I saw people talk about looks being important I always thought they were stupid and felt that girls had low standards, they probably just acted like complete spergs.
A few months ago I was feeling particularly lonely so I started talking to random people from LULZ, and posting some art online. Aside from 1 or 2 people, and a couple of followers, I wasn't really getting much attention. One person I was talking to convinced me to send a picture of myself, and they were overly positive about it, borderlining creepy honestly. But it gave me enough confidence to show myself to others, and eventually show my face alongside my art.
When I did this, women started following me in much bigger numbers, and every girl I was talking to previously started reaching out to me a lot more often.
I feel like I hate these women. Anons were right, looks matter a lot.
cynical ragebait thread. fuck off
For me I relate heavily to this song
And I'm OK with giving up
The strong desire to deal with bullshit and be the bestest of yourself you could always be was a pain in the ass.
I just want to enjoy life and to do so means giving up on every expectation and pressure placed on me. Go figure.
It's over. Women who aren't genetically beautiful will always be rejected no matter how much they improooov
What are you supposed to do then? Waste away in your room browsing LULZ all day? Do the types that post this pic constantly view self-improvement just as a thing to eventually get pussy from?
so because you didnt get to be ultimate chad in high school, you should give up on life. you are all so pathetic and just looking for an excuse to remain lazy loser fucks.
Robowaifus will always love you