Why would you even want to join the Siths?All you get is angry waves for emotions you got trained by a bastard who you have to betray and kill or he's going to kill you at some point because of some stupid rule of 2 instead of something practical like saying I'm done being your master you can make your own apprentice and I get a new one now and you got to constantly be on the one without letting people know what you are when there's only another one of you around did you do anything with. I mean what are the actual benefits to the lifestyle? For you for anything resembling a legacy for your family?
look at this penis headed homosexual
>Siths
Plural of Sith is Sith
>why join
Because it frees you, darkside is space cocaine. You get high on it, only you matters. Sith is all about glorification of the individual at everyone else's expenses
>Because it frees you
No they don't, by the movies is clear turning into a sith turn you into a monk slave that must one day die by assisted suicide so your sidekick can replace you. It's like people confuse sith with Chaos Cultists from Warhammer40k
Firstly, that's only true of those who follow the rule of two - which wasn't the only sith philosophy. Secondly, the rule of two was meant to be concentrated darwinism for the sith, helping to ensure each one is more powerful than the last - and the most important one, the last sith in the rule of two - is the one who is powerful enough to overthrow the jedi and rule the galaxy. Sidious thought he was that sith, and arguably was. For him, it was freeing as hell.
>Firstly, that's only true of those who follow the rule of two
The rule of two is one of the central ideologies of the sith for a thousand years and the pre rule of two sith worlbuilding canon is completely inconsistent so it's not even relevant. The sith are just literally evil for the sake of being evil, the extended universe tried to make Sheev Palpatine honeslty believe that being a sith makes you a better ruler for the people but Disney rectonned all of that.
>the extended universe tried to make Sheev Palpatine honeslty believe that being a sith makes you a better ruler for the people
That is absolutely fucking retarded. It's like saying doing heroine makes you healthier or something.
No. The reasoning goes,
>non Force sensitives
>stupid blind people akin to literal children
>Force sensitive
>the ones who understand the Universe and have the real power to steer the idiots to a proper course
>Sith Lords
>the ones who truly understand how to use the Force and exercise power
Thus, Palpatine as the Dark Lord of the Sith was the only one who could rule and steer the galaxy around.
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>Thus, Palpatine as the Dark Lord of the Sith was the only one who could rule and steer the galaxy around.
he was actually trying to build some big guns for the ayys from outside of the galaxy
his taxes policy was also pretty good
>the pre rule of two sith worlbuilding canon is completely inconsistent so it's not even relevant.
That's bullshit. It varies, sure, but there are enough central tennets there. Plus, the roots of the rule of two come from that pre-rule-of-two time, so undermining one undermines the other.
>all the canonI don’t like doesn’t matter
Also
>caring what bean counters at Disney consider canon
>>all the canonI don’t like doesn’t matter
Disney owns the franchise, you know the rules and so do I.
Yes, the rule is that Palpatine was aware of the impending Vong invasion, not the Disney version where he was aware of Snoke, who turned out to be himself.
You asked why people turn to the Sith. That's the explanation, their rationalization. As i said, the dark side is space cocaine. It's all about making the Force your bitch, while the Jedi follows the will of the Force, the Sith says "no, fuck you, i'm charge here".
The fact one gets turned with a ballsack for a face and space crack eyes shows that is a bad deal, but a true Sith doesn't give a fuck. As Palpatine said to Vader, doesn't matter if your face is fucked, you have power, the dark side is the only company you need.
Savy?
Don't the Sith also have a different code of conduct that helps sustain them and preserve their mindset? I think they also have a celibacy rule and shit.
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>I think they also have a celibacy rule and shit.
Why would you want to do that if you're giving up everything for power?that's the number one reason to have super powers ?
Don't ask me, I just heard that one of their rules is a lack of intimacy. It makes sense since unfulfillment and broken promises would only make them angrier and more bitter at the world around them. Also when they realize that them rebelling was for nothing and that they destroyed what could've been for an empty promise.
The code of the Sith
"Peace is a lie, there is only passion.
Through passion, I gain strength.
Through strength, I gain power.
Through power, I gain victory.
Through victory, my chains are broken.
The Force shall free me."
>celibacy
Nope. They are against emotional attachments, because that leave to selflessness and self sacrifice, people become a liability. You can have all the sex you want, just don't let your feelings for people block your trek for power
>You can have all the sex you want, just don't let your feelings for people block your trek for power
So you can fuck but you can't love? Tbf, no emotional fulfillment can probably help the Sith mindset.
funnily, the Jedi have a similar rule. They could fuck all they wanted as long as there was no attachment or self-indulgence.
Didn't know that tbh. Kinda assumed they didn't want to take the risk and went fully celibate.
it really depends on the jedi and the time/place. There's at least one case of a jedi sleeping with a sith for info.
I know it was more enforced back when the Jedi weren't, y'know, destroyed, but that afterwards it got harder to uphold. Especially since I know Luke had some babies or some shit.
Love is a weakness, but sex, as far the EU goes eventually becames secondary, the Sith get their jollies by using the Dark Side to acquire power. There is some mentions about sex and the Sith
>Darth Zannah used as a tool
>Bane got physical with Githanni, a fellow Sith
>Darth Vectivus sired a family (a dark lord that didn't snorted that much magical space cocaine that is the dark side)
>Palpatine was reputed to have an harem of concubines
I'm mostly just making that point since Anakin would be fucked anyway.
that's bullshit. the sith fuck. sex is passion
They are not in control of the Dark Side, they serve the Dark Side, the "Join the Dark Side" clearly imply submission to it like a deity.
I'm not pulling over 30 years of EU material to show the exact lines, but Sith doctrine goes like that: You impose your will over the Force. You break it, made it bend to your will. That's what a true Sith does, the individual above all. That's why Darth Krayt was considered an heretic, because he put a cause over the individual.
Is there ANY other options if you wanted to be a force user? Why is it only just Jedi and Sith? If the force was real you'd have all sorts of fringe cults that have their own orders and shit
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I think he only went full self sabotaging General when he joined the ongoing battle on that weird planet..
Before that he was a general who didn't value the lives of his men which made him easier he'll be the kind of guy who would want to become an evil Jedi.
>Before that he was a general who didn't value the lives of his men
But this alone should have set off some red flags, shouldn't it? Don't the Jedi teach about the sanctity of life and whatnot? How did the anal fucks of the Jedi Council not raise some eyebrows at this Dexter Jettster looking ass treating clones like cannon fodder while everyone else treated them respectfully?
Same order that let kit fisto’s clearly very angry padawan rocket up to Knighthood because they needed more bodies for the meat grinder. It’s another way of showing the jedi were losing their way which sped up their downfall
There are, most don't understand and/or use their powers for combat though. Like the snail dudes who go around healing nature.
You mostly see jedi and sith because
1. black and white morality tales see tickets
2. The jedi are meant to be a result of an infraglactic conference of force users so they're like some super church; and
3. The jedui and sith are most closely aligned to infraglactic politics.
>Is there ANY other options if you wanted to be a force user? Why is it only just Jedi and Sith?
You could be a bounty hunter/mercenary. The force and a lightsaber plus a blaster of some sort can be useful for that sort of thing.
There were plenty - hell, the Fate of the Jedi books are a slow tour of half of them.
Examples:
- Jensaarai
- Baran Do sages
- Followers of the Potentium
- Gray Paladins
- Imperial Knights
- Jal Shey
- Theran Listeners
- Aing-Tii
- Followers of the White Current
- Dathomiiri Witches (pre Filoni butchering.)
The force is kinda like the warp, in that if you don't do what the Jedi do, e.i train and control your emotions, you backslide into becoming a Sith really easily.
At least, that's the only reason I can think of as to why every dark side user is an unhinged lunatic and the Jedi have to train their wholes lives to strive to be only somewhat unlikable.
Wasn’t there in Rebels a force creature/guy who was the one in the middle, and was clowning on both jedi and sith?
Also in the old republic MMO, there was a neutral aligned race/religion with the power to see the future
Being Gray is for fags, anon. It's like the shitty fanfic character way of using the Force.
being Gray is cool conceptually for a universe that's mostly black and white, i wish you weren't right in your notion.
which is why Riku is the best character in Kingdom hearts. (or he would be, if they stopped retreading the same character arch everytime he's the focus of a game.)
It's mostly just an issue of writers making shitty Gray Jedi in media. I think the only one that I read about that I kinda liked was Ulic Qel-Droma, who turned towards being a Sith, killed his brother during that point and only repented after his new master lost the war and he went into exile. But he got shot in the stomach by some fat dwarf and died pretty unceremoniously right after meeting up with his ex when he'd spent, like, six months training her daughter to use the Force.
There's a lot of good ideas for gray jedi in legends, but they're usually not expanded out. The Potentium has a lot of good space for gray jedi - where no part of the force is inherently good or bad, it's your motives and actions that determine it. Or hell, the much vaunted Darth Vevictus was closer to a gray jedi than an actual sith. The issue is that the two kinds we tend to see are "Jedi who's too cool for rules, a loose canon who gets results!" and "ZOMG 2 powerful 4 sides, I trounce everyone 4ever."
>where no part of the force is inherently good or bad, it's your motives and actions that determine it
So more like the original movies?
Gray Force is a stupid concept because unless they are highly unstable or less powerful they make Sith and Jedi philosophy look pointless and foolish
it kind of is, all that matters is the sweet sweet midi-chlorians in your bloodstream.
I mean, in pre sequal trillogy, you needed instruction in the force philosophy to be able to use it with any degree. also, I don't really see it as stupid. Its basically a core ontological split between egoism and a sort of idealist universalism.
Its more the principle of the matter. Like I think jedi big forhead had a full harem because his race literally needed repopulation.
They kinda are, though.
It's just that very few people are capable of doing the grey thing without sliding into one side or the other.
Old lore pegged them as less powerful because they weren't committed to the force. Typically, they either return to being Jedi, self destruct because of being too close to the dark side or get killed off by the Sith.
>Also in the old republic MMO, there was a neutral aligned race/religion with the power to see the future
Ah yes, the Voss. Fuck them and their neutrality, fucking swiss frog people.
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Not really. Jedi and sith are descriptive and are the gestalt of different galactic practices. You cant just have your cake and eat it too. They are the results of inner more intimate truths. At some point, for universal love, you are going to get towards jedi detachment from physicality, as an excess of possession leeds to greed and worldliness. See things like chritian monks, buhdist monks, Sufis and the like. While if you go towards egoism you will inevitably become sithish, and sith is the gestalt of that path. Will to power and all that.
Also, grey jedi are fucking retarded. no spirituality in it. literally valley girl buhdism. They dont actually have a stance. no firm principle.
How the FUCK did the jedi not realize Krel was no good? Even if they didn't assume was a traitor, the dude's tactics were blatantly callous or incompetent.
Krell was no Sith. He was just a Jedi who could see the writing on the wall.
Wow a Jedi destroying future storm troopes, what a baddie.
Remember, he won all the battles until Umbara. He had a reputation. Yeah, shit ton of clones died under his command, but nobody gave much of a shit, as long as the Republic was triumphant.
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You can quit the Jedi and not decide to go join the Evil Jedi .
The current Sith are a lineage of groomers.
because there's no alternative
you become a jedi, or you become a sith
you cant be a neutral force user
and you cant "leave" the jedi order after deciding its not for you
the jedi arent going to leave you alone because "well if WE dont recruit them OBVIOUSLY they will turn into a sith, so join up or face the consequences"
The siths get red lightsabers and red lightsabers look cooler.
lightning hands
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have though me is all about the prospect of power raw unlimited power and not being celibate aka virgin for the most part