Why were no animals domesticated in Europe?
Why were no animals domesticated in Europe?
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What about Germans? They were domesticated.
Europeans are genetically and intellectually inferior.
Clearly this man has never been to Germany.
>Europeans are genetically and intellectually inferior
To who? Middle Easterners? kek
>Europeans are genetically and intellectually inferior.
I can already tell that your great-grandma sucked white dick
>He said this, in a european language
in 200 years we'll be speaking chinese or tamil
how will your argument hold up then?
In 200 years we'll be speaking ebonics
>counting those first separately domesticated horses from central asia that aren't the ancestors of domesticated horses today instead of the eastern european ones that are
>conveniently leaves out animals known to have been first domesticated by Europeans like ferrets and rabbits and geese
>presents speculative middle eastern origins like pigs and sheep and goats as fact when they were domesticated so long ago it could just as well have been in europe for all we know
he said, in a european language
The horse was domesticated in Europe.
The przewalski's horse of central Asia was not domesticated, and even if it had been, the modern domestic horse lineage comes from the populations domesticated in Eastern Europe.
As for the rest, they were either domesticated before the spread of Mesooptamian crops into Europe (e.g. the Auroch) resulting in their transfer at the same time giving Europeans no opportunity to perform an independent domestication, or was not present in Europe as a wild animal in the first place.
Horse is from Europe. It gave Europeans more advantage than any other animals and allowed them to conquer most of Eurasia. I guess in the end early domestication of animals and plants wasn't very advantageous for the farmers as their languages and cultures largely disappeared replaced by more savage groups that just stole those animals from them.
the equide and camelid families evolved in the AMERICAS originally
Because at the time of the earlier domestications elsewhere, Europe was under X km of ice. Of course you wouldn't expect it. You probably don't have many European agricultural inventions around the same time either.
Except it wasn't.
No, only horses were possibly domesticated by them. All other animals they acquired due to contacts with people from the West or South.
You mean east. Dogs were the first domesticated animal, from the Altai region. Guess where the first blue eyed samples come from?
From Italy. Also, we don't know where the dogs were domesticated. Could be further South as the most archaic lineages are all in East Asia.
>we don't know where the dogs were domesticated
Yes we do. The behaviour for sociability is directly tied to a gene set originating in the Altai.
Source? Also, ANE were not Indo-Europeans and contributed to many different populations.
That's where the IE people's originated from,but we're talking circa 33k BC. Feed yourself tonight kid.
You're too clueless to discuss this topic. And I won't waste more time.
>They were directly associated with human hunting camps in Europe over 30,000 years ago and it is proposed that these were domesticated
There you go,open wide you white hating little puke.
lol, also nothing there about what you said.
PIE came from the Middle East/Caucasus. We had nothing to do with ANE originally.
Horses were domesticated in Central Asia by the Botai.
halfwit take, dare I say there is some hostility to the notion that Europeans domesticated anything at all?
>Genetic evidence shows, however, that the Botai horse is not the ancestor of the modern domesticated horse. Domestication of the modern horse's ancestors likely occurred in an area known as the Volga-Don, in the Pontic–Caspian steppe region of Western Eurasia, around 2200 BCE. From there, use of horses spread across Eurasia...
>A study in 2018 revealed that the Botai horses did not contribute significantly to the genetics of modern domesticated horses, and that therefore a subsequent and separate domestication event must have been responsible for the modern domestic horse.
because they were too big and/or wild. But perfect for hunt.
The rabbit has been domesticated and they probably came from Spain. Counts as much as the chicken counts.
The Guinea-Pig should probably be on this chart as well, from Ecuador i think
Wouldn’t that be Europe?
No. It's almost definitely more to the East. It's possible that dogs were also domesticated in Europe but their lineages did not survive.
European dog DNA spread later on replacing most of original ancestry, though.
Blue color indicates ancestry found in a Funnelbeaker dog.
What study is this dog map from?
Origins and genetic legacy of prehistoric dogs
The Chad dog vs the virgin wolf
Nope. Latest research link dogs ancestors to a east siberian wolf cousin population.
tldr protonative americans domesticated the wolf
show us the dog haplogroup maps
ah, so the board's haploautism has FINALLY begun to caught up to me
early image of a wolf-dog, taken from a cave wall in France (Font-de-Gaume cavern)
it's Magdelenian, roughly 17000 YBP
>The Paleolithic dog was a Late Pleistocene canine. They were directly associated with human hunting camps in Europe over 30,000 years ago and it is proposed that these were domesticated. They are further proposed to be either a proto-dog and the ancestor of the domestic dog or an extinct, morphologically and genetically divergent wolf population.
"Possible dog domestication between 15,000 and 40,000 YBP is not clear due to the debate over what the Paleolithic dog specimens represent. This is due to the flexibility of genus Canis morphology, and the close morphological similarities between Canis lupus and Canis familiaris. It is also due to the scarcity of Pleistocene wolf specimens available for analyses and so their morphological variation is unknown. Habitat type, climate, and prey specialization greatly modify the morphological plasticity of grey wolf populations, resulting in a range of morphologically, genetically, and ecologically distinct wolf morphotypes. With no baseline to work from, zooarchaeologists find it difficult to be able to differentiate between the initial indicators of dog domestication and various types of Late Pleistocene wolf ecomorphs, which can lead to the mis-identification of both early dogs and wolves. Additionally, the ongoing prehistoric admixture with local wolf populations during the domestication process may have led to canids that were domesticated in their behavior but wolflike in their morphology. Attempting to identify early tamed wolves, wolfdogs, or proto-dogs through morphological analysis alone may be impossible without the inclusion of genetic analyses.
"In 2021, a study found that the cranial measurements of a number of Paleolithic dog specimens exhibited a relatively shorter skull and a relatively wider palate and brain case when compared with Pleistocene and recent northern wolves, and that these features are the morphological signs of domestication."
>Galeta, Patrik; Lázničková‐Galetová, Martina; Sablin, Mikhail; Germonpré, Mietje (2021). "Morphological evidence for early dog domestication in the European Pleistocene: New evidence from a randomization approach to group differences". The Anatomical Record.
Pigs were domesticated in the Middle East. Stop making shit up