Why was France happy to run off to the crusades in medieval times but allied with the Ottomans later on?
Why was France happy to run off to the crusades in medieval times but allied with the Ottomans later on?
Why was France happy to run off to the crusades in medieval times but allied with the Ottomans later on?
because a huge portion of the frogs going on to crusades wanted a political boost, sure there was some religious reasons for it but the boost in prestige or simply the chance to get to rule land was a massive part of it, and when the ottomans became relevant they were also fighting the habsburgs which was also a rival of France so that was done for mutal political convience for both
All philosophies/religions/ideologies/ideas that have mass appeal are just keys being jangled in front of the plebs faces so they stay placid.
Wrong, all ideologies serve to motivate and direct elites. Real plebs have no time for abstractions and ideals.
diplomacy is the pursuit of national interests, and those interests are often best served by allying with old enemies and fighting with old allies
Both France and the Ottomans hated the Arabs.
Things change after 500 years?
Medieval France was massively overpopulated and composed of numerous infighting political entities
Early Modern France population stagnated and it became stable unified kingdom
Spooked hard by the prospect of Hapsburg encirclement, and/or wanting to seize the Austro-Burgundian lands on their border.
The Crusades were the last moment that "all" of Europe worked together to do something, even better it was done by a spiritual leader, aka the Pope.
When later France allied with the Ottomans, that unity was already fractured, and the "reunification" was not to be done not by a spiritual leader but by a temporal leader (the Emperor Charles Qint) who led the show, so no rival temporal powers (kings like Francis 1 or Henry VIII) wanted to see this happen, and the Pope switched side whenever it was possible to counter and balance the constant erosion of the Church's prerogatives and over the destiny of Europe.
Tldr; too much realpolitik, not enough religious unity.
France is literally the worst country in all of history. They will back stab countries repeatedly for their own greedy interests. The Ottomans and subsequently the Turks were betrayed as well as the European Christians were deceived and used.
The nine year war is the most ironic war in history
>Implying anglos didn't perfidiously collaborate with israelites and fuck up Europe in a vastly worse way than the Franco-Otoman alliance ever did.
Are you referring to William the first dealings with the israelites ?
It happened more than once.
Habsburg subhumans became too powerful back then.
The French were the primary reason the Holy League was never able to keep their gainst against the Ottomans as they would always invade the HRE every time they made progress.
Why?
Because they wanted to crush them themselves which they eventually did.
Because the modern state didn’t exist back in Crusader times. Instead there was an abundance of Free Germanic Men going raiding overseas for the same reasons their ancient Germanic ancestors did for thousands of years. Loot, women and glory. Christianity‘s moral system didn’t dominate the minds of people as today.
By the time the Ottomans emerged as the Hegemon of the East, there were other more tempting targets for the Free Men seeking glory and treasure in other places of the earth, which were finally being discovered.
Saracen pussy. Ever since they got a taste in the crusades, all Frog foreign policy has been simping for thicc booty baddies from the east