Why there isnt any good fantasy books based on Roman mythos?

Why there isnt any good fantasy books based on Roman mythos?

There's thousands of stories based around medieval Europe/England but never seen roman based ones.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most of it was burned in the library of Alexandria. Most likely the culprit was a israelite.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Knowing Homer most likely composed epics for all of greek mythology and heroes, some of which we probably won't know of, and that only two of them survived never stops haunting me.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but there's also a high chance (and hope that) those stories morph into other tales in other cultures around the area and even beyond

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Knowing Homer most likely composed epics for all of greek mythology and heroes
        Didn't know this one. I heard off the lost Troyan cycle works but not that they were from Homer.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What should really haunt is how many are sitting in private collections that you will never get to read

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The thing about private collections is, they have trouble surviving over multiple generations.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Rockefellers have the whole library of Alexandria in pdf's.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In the Trojan Cycle Homer only composed the Iliad and the Odyssey, and MAYBE one of the others. The reason the others haven't survived is they just weren't as good and were considered by everyone as inferior to Homer, all of them but one were composed after him.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          "the earliest attested references to Hómeros attribute to him not only the Iliad and the Odyssey but also the epics of the so-called Cycle, such as the Cypria and the Little Iliad.34 In fact, the very concept of kúklos, usually translated as ‘circle’ or ‘Cycle’, stems from the ancient pre-Aristotelian tradition of applying the metaphor of cycle to the sum total of epic poetry, as if all of it were composed by Homer."

          "What made decisive the differentiating of the Iliad and the Odyssey from all other epic poems was the influence exerted by the scholars at the Library of Alexandria, particularly by Zenodotus of Ephesus"

          "there were attempts to narrow down the Homeric corpus even further, as when scholars known as the “separators” or khorízontes tried to separate the authorship of the Odyssey from that of the Iliad"

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >In fact, the very concept of kúklos, usually translated as ‘circle’ or ‘Cycle’, stems from the ancient pre-Aristotelian tradition of applying the metaphor of cycle to the sum total of epic poetry, as if all of it were composed by Homer."
            I never understood why things were called cycles in the first place, like northnaggers saying Ring Cycle or Arthurian cycle

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Isn't the deal that Homer represent a preservation of an older oral tradition that goes back to before the collapse? The Trojan war supposedly takes place in the collapse.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Kind of? Homer mentions a lot of pre-collapse things, but he doesn't actually seem to know how they worked. The best example is his ideas about chariots which were a huge feature of Bronze Age warfare, but Homer was unaware that they were war machines in and of themselves. In the Iliad they are solely used for transport. It's very funny in hindsight to read about how two heroes charge at each other with their chariots and then simply get off of them to fight on foot.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well, you can sleep well now

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How is that an explanation when the amount of Roman myths we know and research still dwarfs the amount of myth on the same continent, that we also still know a decent amount of

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You do realise Alexandria had a tsunami in 365? So the library of Alexandria didn’t exist anymore. The Roman historian writing in 370 (a few years after the Tsunami) speaks of the library of Alexandria in the past tense cause it no longer existed.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He’s a /misc/tard, there’s no point.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      > Oy!

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Mein kampf

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    what comes to mind is Latro in the Mist by Gene Wolfe and the Masters of Rome series by Colleen McCullough.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The entire fantasy genre is weird because the name implies anything and everything, but you almost always have to expect the same sorta-Norse mythology/folklore inspired fantasy in a northwest medieval Europe/England, its attempts to break out of this is just putting the same orcs and elves in different suits or copypasted on different settings, and only envelops other genres by sheer technicality, like wuxia/xianxia and magical realism

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >anon discovers that genrea are only an agregation of compatible products

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        "Fantasy" is just a bad name

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well that depends how you define fantasy exactly. If it's just a universe where magic and the supernatural are unambiguously real, then a lot of things are fantasy. Probably like half of Stephen King's work, just to name something very obvious.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's kinda funny how everyone knows Roman and Greek mythology and how they're viewed as a bedrock to everything, but Tolkien is powerful enough that his British mythology is what is ripped off the most
    Even he wanted to mimic Homer

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Homer’s style isn’t popular because the gods show up all the time and are super annoying since they’re continuously interfering which minimises human actions.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Homer’s style isn’t popular because it's realistic
        yes

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Misplaced Legion is good.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/974209.The_Misplaced_Legion

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Turtledove

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What's wrong with him

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I haven't read the whole series (only own book 1), but I like all the pulpy covers.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Romans are homosexuals and the Medieval era was the greatest time in human history.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Cope

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