WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING IN WEBP??????

WHY THE FUCK IS EVERYTHING IN WEBP??????

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jpeg and PNG is too ubiquitous.
    Don't you want a new standard that Google is trying to shove down your throat?
    They're the internet you know.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's lossless isn't it? and uses less data? Just convert it to PNG, or are you incompetent?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i just want to save image and use it on LULZ i cant be bothered to convert every fucking pic related i want

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I just use an extension that converts it automatically for me

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's lossless isn't it?
      no its extremely lossy

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        webp can do both lossy and lossless

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It saves money for the website owners.

          it's almost always used to make shitty jpegs even smaller

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It supports both lossy and lossless modes, but has no easy way to tell which a file is. The lossy mode converts any details it can't encode at the set quality level into blurry horse shit. Every webp I've seen is either lossless, high enough quality that it looks identical to a high quality jpg, or is a smeared blurry mess that looks more unnatural than jpeg artifacts.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but has no easy way to tell which a file is
        it's part of the magic number, you can make a script to check for it or you can open it in a hex editor. if byte 15 (0-indexed) is 0x4C it's lossless, if it's 0x20 it's lossy.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Case in point. I shouldn't need to open a file in a hex editor or write a custom script to tell me if it's lossless. With the current arrangement, if it says "png" in the name, it's lossless unless it's a misnamed jpg in which case I'll find out when I open it in IrfanView and it pops up asking me if I want to fix this misnamed file.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            > if it says "png" in the name, it's lossless unless it's a misnamed jpg

            Lossy PNG is a thing.

            For example, https://pngquant.org/ can process the image attached to

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            Fuck off webphaggot

            and decrease its filesize by 78.61% (including 7.2361% gain provided by https://github.com/fhanau/Efficient-Compression-Tool afterwards).

            See the attached result.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    some of it is .jfif too

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      JFIF is a part of JPEG. You can rename JFIF to JPEG and assuming there is a SOI marker (0xffd8) any compliant JPEG decoder will be able to process the file. The difference between the two is that JFIF is a file interchange format that lets you embed other data into a JPEG bitstream (such as EXIF data and color profiles).

      I really this board and their lack of knowledge on literally everything technology related.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah well for my purposes jfif is useless no matter what it technically is or is not because I can't post them here without resaving them in paint first.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    wouldn't be a problem if LULZ added webp support

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      Fuck off webphaggot

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Also the attachment to “says "png" in the name” despite being JPEG saved as PNG (the artifacts of JPEG compression are obvious all over the image, INCLUDING the text “PROGRESS” overlaid over photoes).

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they don't want you to ripoff their content that they contracted to have made for thousands of bucks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bullshit.

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can it do animation without being shit, i.e. .gif?
    If it can I might consider.
    Sure we have apng but nobody uses it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Use gif2webp (a part of libwebp) to create animated WebP from GIF, such as https://take-me-to.space/XIgTDil.webp for example.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's just a webm anon...
      also when it comes to programming, it's not fun to load webp knowing that it can sometimes be an animated video, because that makes thing more complicated than it needs to be, and less likely for other people to program an alternative library that is faster at loading webp, because webp has this feature and users want support for it, but you just want to load an image into opengl or something.
      It's over engineered for no reason, why not just create a separate extension for animated webp?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        Almost every format can be animated.

        Animated GIF.

        Animated PNG.

        Animated WebP.

        Animated AVIF.

        Animated JPEG XL.

        Your only exception is the old JPEG (aka JPEG1).

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Motion JPEG is a thing. If you're willing to count hacks like APNG then MJPEG should be considered valid to you, too. Just stick a bunch of JPEG images into a movie container like mov or mp4 and you're good to go

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          apng isn't png, also not really supported.
          the only relevant formats are:
          >JPG
          >PNG
          >BMP
          >TIF (for artist shit)
          They are all images, but for most of the formats there are extension headers for new versions of the file, so technically it's possible to make the image support animation, unless there is a consensus of support it isn't necessarily the standard. For example BMP technically supports RGBA in the newest version, but ms paint will still write a old era BMP that uses only RGB.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

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            > not really supported

            Well, https://caniuse.com/apng seems to think that PNG animations are supported in every modern browser.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              an apng isn't a png.
              If you were a programmer, you couldn't load a apng with the most popular png library, libpng (it would load the first frame successfully, but it won't be animated, which is why apng can be named a png without any problem).
              If you save a png with paint, it's not an apng.
              Maybe apng does fill in a gap that webm doesn't, which is looping lossless animation (that plays without a play button in the browser, which you can get working with webms too but it's not the default behavior), And as we get 4k displays, lossless isn't gonna be that important for animations (this would've been much more popular back in the early 2000's).

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >BMP technically supports RGBA in the newest version, but ms paint will still write a old era BMP that uses only RGB
            Doesn't BMP use BGR? So wouldn't it be BGRA?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              BGR is just RGB in little endian format.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >also not really supported.
            Major browsers support it, so it is in fact supported.

            >BMP
            >TIF (for artist shit)
            Neither is commonly supported nor available on the web and both contain many features that are absent in some implementations. Even AVIF has more support than either.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They need more room for the gigabytes of code running the site and ad trackers.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just disable it in your browser

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      image.webp.enabled false

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    real question is why ISN'T everything using webp, its uses less internet traffic fo rthe same quality

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >real question is why ISN'T everything using webp
      because AVIF exists

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        name 3 sites using it right now

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        0 hardware support

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why yes let me implement full blown vp8 decoding, together with all of the possible bugs, security issues, and computational power needed, just to save Mr. Shekelberg 10 kb of bandwidth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      iirc webp pushes decompression onto the client. Just more webshit garbage slowing your computer down

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    face it LULZ you lost
    no one uses .avif
    and webp will replace all of jpeg (and png) making jpeg xl obsolete

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      > no one uses .avif

      because Firefox does not support animated AVIF

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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    This extension is the best I found: "Save Image by Right Click: PNG, JPG, or WebP"

    Ideally I would like to find an extension which converts them to PNG automatically. or even better, a way to remove WEBP as an accepted format in my HTTP headers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Firefox has an extension to strip WebP and/or AVIF from your accept headers. It's what I use in conjunction with disabling WebP images

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >a way to remove WEBP as an accepted format in my HTTP headers
      image.http.accept
      set it to whatever you currently have, sans image/webp
      e.g. image.http.accept=image/avif,*/*
      note that this will just remove explicit advertisement for webp support; if a website always serves webp (e.g. youtube) or uses <picture> srcsets to let your browser pick the format, you'll still get it

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's time for us to talk about this.

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because retards can't stop using Chromium forks and giving Google control over web standards.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How come LULZ wants AV1 for videos and Opus for music so much, but when you see WebP for pictures your anus prolapses?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IT'S NOT I'VE NEVER DOWNLOADED A WEBP I'VE NEVER SEEN A WEBP STOP YELLING AND TAKE YOUR MEDS.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Storage and data speeds aren't an issue anymore, even most third world hellholes have decent internet access these days.There is zero reason not to use PNG.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you will not own anything and you will be happy

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Laughs in yandex

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Better compression saves content providers bandwith.
    >$
    They don't care if you can't upload THEIR content to your favorite Outer Mongolian basket weaving forum. Get a fucking grip and stop posting this derp.

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