Thats because in these online dating gurus lifes only women that exist are 20-28 year olds. Women past 28 dont warm up to bad behaviour quite the opposite.
Why would you want to date a woman past 28? Her best years are quite literally behind her. The only reason to date a woman past 28 is if you were already in a relationship with her before she hit her dropoff.
The female equivalent would be choosing to date a fat balding manlet over a 6'2 fit with full head of hair.
the left has become puritanical and totally abandoned the project of creating a vision of healthy sexuality or a message for lonely young men. reactionaries have flooded into the vacuum
i grew up in a muslim household in america.
i kind of see 2 worlds. the muslim american experience and the western non-muslim experience.
The biggest difference is the women. Muslim-American woman want a traditional life. they want the guy to be the leader and want the man to be a virgin and both wait till marriage. They want a guy who does good deeds and is charitable. Most muslim american men become doctors lawyers, engineers, and thats what the women want. they dont want some celebrity sports player or multimillionaire. they just want a guy who is stable and a good muslim. its a much happier life. like an ideal muslim man is somoene like khabib from the UFC. A stoic strong man that is brave, provides, etc. Basically what all you white kids pretend to want to be.
in non-muslim western culture today, being a virgin is pathetic for a man. the asshole rapist men are rewarded by these women with sex. they go to frat parties knowing theyre likely to be raped and only find men looking to bang. idk. im so glad im muslim because reward better qualities.
let me just add we dont really "date" either.
i think dating in general is bizzare.
watch a video from ben on how he met his wife. he also had a pretty traditional, no premarital relations before marriage, relationship. western secularists pretend like their way of dating nad hooking up is superior but their much less happy because they dont know what theyre looking for. you shouldnt be dating not knowing where it will go. you should be looking for marriage and date to get to know them. ideally less dates the better. it doesnt take much time to find red flags. most people today just ignore the red flags. when youre thinking about marriage, you dont ignore them.
I see Muslims with their own set of fucked up problems.
I tried a Muslim once, his cousin was super thirsty for him because she was supposed to be wed to him or she gets nothing.
So there's a Muslim who ended up being a high-earning doctor from a wealthy and respected family who's stuck being a permavirgin because her cousin left for America.
I'm not convinced that you guys avoid red flags as much as they're ignored out of pure thirst due to the fact that whatever spouse(s) you get is what you're fated to get.
let me just add we dont really "date" either.
i think dating in general is bizzare.
watch a video from ben on how he met his wife. he also had a pretty traditional, no premarital relations before marriage, relationship. western secularists pretend like their way of dating nad hooking up is superior but their much less happy because they dont know what theyre looking for. you shouldnt be dating not knowing where it will go. you should be looking for marriage and date to get to know them. ideally less dates the better. it doesnt take much time to find red flags. most people today just ignore the red flags. when youre thinking about marriage, you dont ignore them.
Anon, I've been interested in going to the UK/US/Australia for my masters (don't have a choice but those specific places for the specific masters I'm interested in. I mean China will work but no thanks). Thing is that I'll be mid-late 20s by then and that's the age range I want to look for marriage. Do muslims in the West really save themselves and act traditionally? I've always heard stories that they're pretty much just atheists that, at most, follow a few easy Islamic "culture" traditions rather be fully practicing.
I see Muslims with their own set of fucked up problems.
I tried a Muslim once, his cousin was super thirsty for him because she was supposed to be wed to him or she gets nothing.
So there's a Muslim who ended up being a high-earning doctor from a wealthy and respected family who's stuck being a permavirgin because her cousin left for America.
I'm not convinced that you guys avoid red flags as much as they're ignored out of pure thirst due to the fact that whatever spouse(s) you get is what you're fated to get.
NTA but man, which country still does arranged marriage still happen? I'm a SEA muslim and it doesn't happen here so I just see it as a matter of culture rather than religion.
You seem pretty smart so maybe you understand why westerners think that Muslims are like overgrown children.
Trying to say that Muslims become doctors, lawyers and engineers is about as believable as the number of esteemed scholars, surgeons and architects that come over as refugees.
That female doctor is privileged and owes her family student loans so they're never going to let her leave. They're (I suppose) pretty important people in the Muslim country Americans fought.
>You seem pretty smart so maybe you understand why westerners think that Muslims are like overgrown children.
How so? From my point of view, westerners see muslims either as a people with a completely alien culture, dangerous, or both. Not like I've been to the West, mind you.
>Trying to say that Muslims become doctors, lawyers and engineers is about as believable as the number of esteemed scholars, surgeons and architects that come over as refugees.
We actually have excess medical graduates where I live and there's not enough jobs for doctors.
By the way, enstrangement is enough of a reason for a muslim wife to seek a divorce or a marriage dissolution.
>Not like I've been to the West, mind you.
And I wish I hadn't
>We actually have excess medical graduates where I live and there's not enough jobs for doctors.
You're in one of the countries where the chief export is human labor. Weird flex but okay.
>enstrangement is enough of a reason for a muslim wife to seek a divorce or a marriage dissolution.
The orthodox Muslims are smart enough to circumvent that by not having her married. Engagement zoned
i agree from exerpience
i'm from germany and ive german women, all complete whores, brainwashed by feminist media
my current gf is muslim and she is exactly like youve described it
western-value-women are literal trash
The pendulum swing from the normal's be a doormat and excessively nice with her. I think all dating advice is probably bogus and will be a case by case basis problem. It's just very appealing if things seem generalized so you always have a consistent plan instead of just bumbling into the dark blindly, but confidently. Bring your basic peoples skill into it and then adjust it for the broad's behavior, I think that's all you can really do with something so heavily biased to emotion and is no longer bound to any social pressure.
If you want to become a fuckboy then that’s probably the most solid advice a subhuman could ask for.
If you actually want a relationship the only real advice is socializing first and establishing romantic/sexual interest early on as to not put yourself in the “friendzone”.
>If you actually want a relationship the only real advice is socializing first and establishing romantic/sexual interest early on as to not put yourself in the “friendzone”.
What's the sweet spot for that timeframe as in early on?
If you know each other from a group (of friends) then the latest point at which you ABSOLUTELY have to show it is on the first date. It doesn’t need to end with a kiss or sex, preferably it doesn’t. But a hug should work.
>Can't even refute me so has to pull insults
Am I throwing around buzzword that I don’t understand the meaning or origin of or are you doing it?
Men are retarded and can't understand nuance. Women want a confident man who will take charge and take risks. Men misunderstand this and think they need to be rapist assholes that spread toxic masculinity. There's only maybe 1% of guys that have an actual brain out there.
I am fucking doomed. Be forever alone at 30. Kinda saps all you confidence. It's quite a defeating feeling. The human spirit can really only take so many disappointments and failures.
Want to know how I know that you have a a hair colour on the rainbow-spectrum and too much estrogen in your body?
>Women want a confident man
I am fucking doomed. Be forever alone at 30. Kinda saps all you confidence. It's quite a defeating feeling. The human spirit can really only take so many disappointments and failures.
>
https://i.imgur.com/eY3gm3w.png
Why the fuck is all dating advice for men being told to act like an asshole or straight up rapist (OP)
"Hating genders and judging everyone the same can lead to psychological frustration; it's crucial to avoid such judgments and appreciate unique personalities."
those who insult mens womens like retards needs just to go back in the jungle to conversate uniquely with monkeys
nice bait, but we know from scientific studies and plenty of real-life examples of (attractive) murderers and rapists in jail getting thousands of love letters that what women really want are rapey/murderous psychopaths (that are attractive. this is key). >#1 fantasy for women is to be raped >#1 romance book for women is about being raped >#1 highest way to get a woman to cum is to rape her. otherwise most women don’t orgasm from PIV sex
>rapists in jail >woman want to be raped
give woman what she wants and what makes her cum and then she throws you in jail? then does she really want that?
because the internet makes it so that inflamatory statements get the most clicks, media attention and ad revenue, allowing so-called "guru" hawks to exploit the insecurities of young teenage boys brought on by decades of conservative male-centric gender relations.
Remember:
1. Women are the naggers of the world.
2. Women have shit in their head
3. Women are totally ruled by their emotions.
4. According to female brain women can be both empowered and victims at the same time
5. Love from Kazakhstan.
nice guys finish last
Yep. It's said because it works.
Thats because in these online dating gurus lifes only women that exist are 20-28 year olds. Women past 28 dont warm up to bad behaviour quite the opposite.
Why would you want to date a woman past 28? Her best years are quite literally behind her. The only reason to date a woman past 28 is if you were already in a relationship with her before she hit her dropoff.
The female equivalent would be choosing to date a fat balding manlet over a 6'2 fit with full head of hair.
>fat balding manlet
Yet some of those are married
the left has become puritanical and totally abandoned the project of creating a vision of healthy sexuality or a message for lonely young men. reactionaries have flooded into the vacuum
i grew up in a muslim household in america.
i kind of see 2 worlds. the muslim american experience and the western non-muslim experience.
The biggest difference is the women. Muslim-American woman want a traditional life. they want the guy to be the leader and want the man to be a virgin and both wait till marriage. They want a guy who does good deeds and is charitable. Most muslim american men become doctors lawyers, engineers, and thats what the women want. they dont want some celebrity sports player or multimillionaire. they just want a guy who is stable and a good muslim. its a much happier life. like an ideal muslim man is somoene like khabib from the UFC. A stoic strong man that is brave, provides, etc. Basically what all you white kids pretend to want to be.
in non-muslim western culture today, being a virgin is pathetic for a man. the asshole rapist men are rewarded by these women with sex. they go to frat parties knowing theyre likely to be raped and only find men looking to bang. idk. im so glad im muslim because reward better qualities.
let me just add we dont really "date" either.
i think dating in general is bizzare.
watch a video from ben on how he met his wife. he also had a pretty traditional, no premarital relations before marriage, relationship. western secularists pretend like their way of dating nad hooking up is superior but their much less happy because they dont know what theyre looking for. you shouldnt be dating not knowing where it will go. you should be looking for marriage and date to get to know them. ideally less dates the better. it doesnt take much time to find red flags. most people today just ignore the red flags. when youre thinking about marriage, you dont ignore them.
I see Muslims with their own set of fucked up problems.
I tried a Muslim once, his cousin was super thirsty for him because she was supposed to be wed to him or she gets nothing.
So there's a Muslim who ended up being a high-earning doctor from a wealthy and respected family who's stuck being a permavirgin because her cousin left for America.
I'm not convinced that you guys avoid red flags as much as they're ignored out of pure thirst due to the fact that whatever spouse(s) you get is what you're fated to get.
>they dont want some celebrity sports player or multimillionaire
>like an ideal muslim man is somoene like khabib from the UFC
Anon, I've been interested in going to the UK/US/Australia for my masters (don't have a choice but those specific places for the specific masters I'm interested in. I mean China will work but no thanks). Thing is that I'll be mid-late 20s by then and that's the age range I want to look for marriage. Do muslims in the West really save themselves and act traditionally? I've always heard stories that they're pretty much just atheists that, at most, follow a few easy Islamic "culture" traditions rather be fully practicing.
NTA but man, which country still does arranged marriage still happen? I'm a SEA muslim and it doesn't happen here so I just see it as a matter of culture rather than religion.
You seem pretty smart so maybe you understand why westerners think that Muslims are like overgrown children.
Trying to say that Muslims become doctors, lawyers and engineers is about as believable as the number of esteemed scholars, surgeons and architects that come over as refugees.
That female doctor is privileged and owes her family student loans so they're never going to let her leave. They're (I suppose) pretty important people in the Muslim country Americans fought.
>You seem pretty smart so maybe you understand why westerners think that Muslims are like overgrown children.
How so? From my point of view, westerners see muslims either as a people with a completely alien culture, dangerous, or both. Not like I've been to the West, mind you.
>Trying to say that Muslims become doctors, lawyers and engineers is about as believable as the number of esteemed scholars, surgeons and architects that come over as refugees.
We actually have excess medical graduates where I live and there's not enough jobs for doctors.
By the way, enstrangement is enough of a reason for a muslim wife to seek a divorce or a marriage dissolution.
>Not like I've been to the West, mind you.
And I wish I hadn't
>We actually have excess medical graduates where I live and there's not enough jobs for doctors.
You're in one of the countries where the chief export is human labor. Weird flex but okay.
>enstrangement is enough of a reason for a muslim wife to seek a divorce or a marriage dissolution.
The orthodox Muslims are smart enough to circumvent that by not having her married. Engagement zoned
>which country still does arranged marriage still happen?
Muslim countries lol
i agree from exerpience
i'm from germany and ive german women, all complete whores, brainwashed by feminist media
my current gf is muslim and she is exactly like youve described it
western-value-women are literal trash
The pendulum swing from the normal's be a doormat and excessively nice with her. I think all dating advice is probably bogus and will be a case by case basis problem. It's just very appealing if things seem generalized so you always have a consistent plan instead of just bumbling into the dark blindly, but confidently. Bring your basic peoples skill into it and then adjust it for the broad's behavior, I think that's all you can really do with something so heavily biased to emotion and is no longer bound to any social pressure.
If you want to become a fuckboy then that’s probably the most solid advice a subhuman could ask for.
If you actually want a relationship the only real advice is socializing first and establishing romantic/sexual interest early on as to not put yourself in the “friendzone”.
>If you actually want a relationship the only real advice is socializing first and establishing romantic/sexual interest early on as to not put yourself in the “friendzone”.
What's the sweet spot for that timeframe as in early on?
If you know each other from a group (of friends) then the latest point at which you ABSOLUTELY have to show it is on the first date. It doesn’t need to end with a kiss or sex, preferably it doesn’t. But a hug should work.
Am I throwing around buzzword that I don’t understand the meaning or origin of or are you doing it?
Toxic masculinity is a real thing. Go to college, uneducated swine.
>Can't even refute me so has to pull insults
Do you want me to wipe your ass too while I read the dictionary to you? I swear, no wonder you're bad with women.
You should read a dictionary or any form of text book that explains human biology first.
Okay, child. Sit down, baby boy.
>the first date
I don't think you understand what you're saying.
Enlighten me anon.
You get friend zoned if you don't ask for a date in time dude.
Countless guys get friendzoned AFTER first dates. Like I said the first date is the absolute latest you need to establish what you want to be to her.
Men are retarded and can't understand nuance. Women want a confident man who will take charge and take risks. Men misunderstand this and think they need to be rapist assholes that spread toxic masculinity. There's only maybe 1% of guys that have an actual brain out there.
>toxic masculinity
Want to know how I know that you have a a hair colour on the rainbow-spectrum and too much estrogen in your body?
>Can't even refute me so has to pull insults
>Women want a confident man
I am fucking doomed. Be forever alone at 30. Kinda saps all you confidence. It's quite a defeating feeling. The human spirit can really only take so many disappointments and failures.
>
Want to know how I know that you have a a hair colour on the rainbow-spectrum and too much estrogen in your body?
>
Why the fuck is all dating advice for men being told to act like an asshole or straight up rapist (OP)
"Hating genders and judging everyone the same can lead to psychological frustration; it's crucial to avoid such judgments and appreciate unique personalities."
those who insult mens womens like retards needs just to go back in the jungle to conversate uniquely with monkeys
nice bait, but we know from scientific studies and plenty of real-life examples of (attractive) murderers and rapists in jail getting thousands of love letters that what women really want are rapey/murderous psychopaths (that are attractive. this is key).
>#1 fantasy for women is to be raped
>#1 romance book for women is about being raped
>#1 highest way to get a woman to cum is to rape her. otherwise most women don’t orgasm from PIV sex
>rapists in jail
>woman want to be raped
give woman what she wants and what makes her cum and then she throws you in jail? then does she really want that?
No I reckon at least, if I were raped I'd be cool with the rape part, probably wouldn't want my rapist to raise my son though.
love letters are pretty fucking low effort bud.
You're not doing a good job proving that anon wrong about being retarded and having no sense of nuance.
>hurr durr, just rape bro
because the internet makes it so that inflamatory statements get the most clicks, media attention and ad revenue, allowing so-called "guru" hawks to exploit the insecurities of young teenage boys brought on by decades of conservative male-centric gender relations.
Because that's what women like?
Source beyond a statistic saying 15% of women orgasm from rape?
Because /adv/ is pretty much the worst place on Earth to get dating advice apart from /LULZ
if you listen to these incels here it's your own fault
Because women have shit in their head.
What book did he wrote and who's he
HOW TO GET THE WOMEN YOU DESIRE by Ross Jeffries
Remember:
1. Women are the naggers of the world.
2. Women have shit in their head
3. Women are totally ruled by their emotions.
4. According to female brain women can be both empowered and victims at the same time
5. Love from Kazakhstan.