Why the Celts never managed to create a strong state in Europe?

Like, really, they were lost in Gaul, Britain, Ireland, Iberia, Anatolia, etc. Why?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theres no such thing as "celts" all these people incorrectly labelled as "celt" across Europe never had anything to do with each other.
    They were different people with different cultures.
    There was no great meet up at the "celt" thing.
    Its a complete fantasy made up in the 19th century.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >across Europe never had anything to do with each other.
      Except language, religion, living next to each other, forming countries together...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        nope.
        Also you pulled that out of your ass. What shared religion? they didn't write anything down

        https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2015/09/there-s-no-such-thing-celt-s-why-we-had-invent-them

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >What shared religion?
          Gods recorded in Gauls found later in medieval and modern people who spoke Celtic languages
          Druids
          >Also you pulled that out of your ass.
          Yep. Gauls was not formed into a kingdom by Vercingetorix.
          Druids never existed.
          Celtic languages never existed.
          It was all invented by time travelling people from the 19th century.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All made up hence "later"
            >Druids
            never wrote anything down and were native to Briton before being wiped out then revived in the 19th century.

            Riddle me this why is there no "celtic" creation myth. That is a root myth that connects all these people.
            They have none. Thats because its invented culture and myth written later in the 19th century by a bunch of people that didn't consider it. So its not a naturally formed religion and culture, its synthetic.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >implying Gaul didn't have Druids

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Gaul got druids from Britain

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. Can you show me your source for this?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Druids were indeed one of the Insular Celts few exports to the Continent (most of the time they imported cultural/social/linguistic trends from Iberia, Gaul, etc), but that doesn’t diminish the importance of the Druidic class in places like Gaul. The few Druids whose names were preserved and recorded for perpetuity were Gallic, and they were pivotal figures not just for their own people, but also in regards to foreign relations with outside powers, most famously Rome, but also the Greeks, and presumably the Carthaginians and Germanics as well.

                Theres no such thing as "celts" all these people incorrectly labelled as "celt" across Europe never had anything to do with each other.
                They were different people with different cultures.
                There was no great meet up at the "celt" thing.
                Its a complete fantasy made up in the 19th century.

                The Celts were less of a cohesive ethnic/national group and more of a linguistic and cultural one, but they by no means “didn’t exist”. A consistent religious, social and artistic structure permeated Western Europe from the Bronze Age to the Late Iron Age, From Austria and Iberia on the continent and Britain and Ireland just off the coast. To say otherwise is fundamentally incorrect and explicitly contradicted by both historical and archaeological primary evidence

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                no, its factual and held by many experts they were invented.
                Its kinda like if you see a whole lot of pottery and call it "corded ware" its hides the truth that there are different people under that heading.
                Culture was exchanged by transmission, not because people were homogenous groups

                To argue otherwise is fundamentally revisionism of history.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Interesting. Can you show me your source for this?

                Apparently you can't...

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The ancient greeks recorded druids among the celts of the balkans. were these druids also from britain or are you retarded? it's the later, isn;t it.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                absolute bullshit and there were no celts in the balkans.
                Keltoi was a word like Barbaroi as used by the Greeks, they referred to everyone north east as Keltoi, it was not an ethnonym.

                Druid itself is a Germanic word, from True.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Celtic is a real language family though

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                not until the 18th century. And linguists are often wrong in their groupings especially with extinct language.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, wtf. By that logic Latin must not have existed? Languages that were written down are easy to track and study. Celtic absolutely existed, you are mentally retarded and arguing against academic consensus.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Actually most words in Europe especially "celtic" words are just mongrelised latin.
                I mean Keltoi was a greek word. Then it was somehow applied by the Romans to Gauls.Then used as a made up people in the modern era. Despite no one calling themselves that ever

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Actually (proceeds to make retarded, factually incorrect statement)

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                its true you ignorant idiot, take the earliest irish language source. Its covered in latin, because it came after latin was introduced to Ireland.
                How can it be considered indigenous when its pig latin?

                What about Wales, the names and words there are Roman latin Welshified. Only a tiny region in the north kept the native names.

                The Irish have no ethnonym, they were loaned one by the Welsh.

                And so on.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languages

                Here you go, enjoy the read

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >he thinks anyone called themselves celtic before the 18-19th century or thought of themselves as the same people
                retard

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >absolute bullshit and there were no celts in the balkans.
                https://balkancelts.wordpress.com/

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you are a moron

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Druids didn't exist once Christianity arrived
              They were pagan priests you utter idiot
              Also well done ignoring the other irrefutable points
              >So its not a naturally formed religion and culture, its synthetic
              No it isn't. It has continous documentation from the Roman times until the 1900s when it died out

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Kys

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        why don't you kill yourself larp tard

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They were matriarchal

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Romans conquered them before they could.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    weren't they the rapebabies of pontic steppenaggers? These never did so either and amounted to nothing until they were dominated by vikangs

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    most celt myth is just lifted from germanic myth probably Roman and Greek too.
    This is where it gets really funny.
    The guy that proposed this, that its simply copied germanic myth was a leading "celtic" historian.
    He gets cited all the time by "celt" historians.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Back in sub-roman Britain, which was balkanized as fuck, the Picts managed to create a Kingdom, big for the standards of the region.
    We don't have much information about this kingdom, and it's existence is a anomaly, considering geography and how the rest of Britain was still very much divided. One can wonder if it even existed, or if the authority of it's king was much more than just nominal.

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What is Galatia ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatia

    what is the Gallic Empire ?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallic_Empire

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