Why not win11?
sacrifices ease of use for how pretty it looks
how is it spyware ?
Are you serious
i see a lot of people say it's spyware but they don't say what is being spied on or what data is collected or anything like that
>i see a lot of people say it's spyware but they don't say what is being spied on or what data is collected or anything like that
Just inform yourself about the new outlook applications that sends all your E-Mail passwords to Microsoft Servers in Plain Text. Microsoft behaves like this all the time...
>Just inform yourself about the new outlook applications that sends all your E-Mail passwords to Microsoft Servers in Plain Text
This is a normal function of web auth. Passwords are hashed server side. Auth0 does the same thing and their whole business is authentication, and they were bought by Okta for $6+ billion a few years ago. Here's a thread on Auth0 with someone asking how to not send plain text passwords to the Auth0 servers, not knowing that this is how auth works because nobody is using HTTP anymore, and the info is being sent to a trusted server
Here's some more information about why you don't hash passwords client side
telling LULZ objective facts about windows' design is pointless, there's always gonna be multiple teenagers jumping in and spewing buzzwords they saw someone else say in different threads
so you don't know why it's spyware, it just is
Zoom zooms have no idea how to research information. They need everything spoon fed to them. The only way to get through to them would be to have a dancing retard on tiktok tell them about it. They'll argue over the most basic facts if they haven't been exposed to them on tiktok.
Microsoft works with the US Government to spy the rest of the world, including the US
how is it spyware though?
ok, now i know you're not serious and are just being inflammatory
no-one ever explains it
It's tiring and feels stupid to explain because it's been said so many times. Just go to google and search if you really care, you're wasting our time by asking us.
i suspect that nobody here knows. I found this article anyway
So you don't know then? You'd waste a lot less time if you just admitted that
Did you look at these links ? These are the ones apparently about "spyware" in windows
The first two links are about telemetry.
The 3rd is about antivirus sending files saying it doesn't ask, but Windows 11 does ask if you want to send files to microsoft.
The 4th link is about the beta/insider versions of windows that is not the typical consumer product.
last two links are about telemetry
Telemetry is not spyware for starters. You agree to send telemetry during installation. That would be like inviting the cops into your house and saying they can look at anything and then accusing them of spying on you. Another reason the telemetry is not a problem is because microsoft provides an application that shows you exactly what telemetry is being sent to their servers. So that 6th link above saying they had to use a man-in-the-middle attack to view the encrypted telemetry data is retarded
i suggest you have a look at this if you want to know what windows is connecting to
>You agree to send
Do you know what agree means
>looking at all my shit isn't spying you guise
they're not looking at "all your shit" though. You can see from the telemetry they're sending in the diagnostic viewer, it's hardly anything. And pretty much all of it has to do with microsoft products. Like it will log an entry when you open Excel, then another when you close it, or it there's an error. If you open Chrome or something it doesn't log anything
FPBP. Windows 10 alone has far too much goddamned bloatware
fpbp. Linux needs to get it's shit together with gaming by 2025 so I can leave Windows forever when W10 goes EOL.
>Linux needs to get it's shit together with gaming by 2025
Don't know about you, but I'm already playing my games on it. You're going to have to roll with the unstable nature of gnu/linux. Some update will break shit sooner or later but I would rather have autistic retards messing shit up and me finding ways to mitigate this retardation than deal with so-called professionals over at Microsoft fucking up with their updates. (See October update fuckery.)
For me the key is having all AMD hardware, following after Valve's footsteps makes it easier to game on linux. Nvidia is still not there yet they were just forced to move to Wayland so their drivers are extremely hit-or-miss.
Are you 15?
Are you 15?
>sacrifices ease of use for how pretty it looks
Are you 90?
Are you 15?
Are you a pedophile?
No, but you seem to be a 15 year old senior pedophile.
Anon, would kindly stop projecting your desire for 15-year-olds, you're already 90 years old yourself. The FBI might come knocking with a coffin in the van.
Win10 is a step down, but easy enough to disable the bloat and Microsoft BS. Win11 has that built into it's core, and is uglier. Looks like Fischer Price designed it.
Why even windows in 2023 in the age of the beast ?
im waiting for win12
there is no good reason not to use win 11 aside from privacy and bloat. everything just works on windows 11 and it is better because you get the newest and the best that you can't get on older windows like 10, 7, what have you.
for me, it is windows 11.
>no good reason except these two good reasons
>you get the newest and the best
best what? give specific examples you underpaid shill or forever be revealed as a fraud.
latest bleeding edge new up to date it just werks drivers, software etc etc hehehehe no compatibility issues
and you get to enjoy new better features that come with them
so nothing that Windows 10 has then.
you've outed yourself as a clueless shill who's not even being paid LMFAO
are you even listening?
you get to enjoy new better features that come with them that you can't on older windows versions because they are not supported on them or not introduced. typed on my win 11 machine.
not having new "features" isn't always a bad thing.
when it comes to things like graphics, better rendering, processing, under the hood hardware compat and improvements it does matter
it improves your experience.
> moving the goalposts
seethe about your lack of new features, retard
Yes but he has old features that you don't have.
how about S mode?
microshit tried to force me to make an account to disable that shit
i was willing to give w11 a chance and it blew it in less than a minute after finishing the setup
Say for yourself. This shit can't run cracked games, always some stupid shit that doesn't work or gets removed by Windows spyware. Either I am the dumbest guy ever or the Denuvo homosexuals have a really good way to stop piracy. I gave up trying to install AC from Empress and just brought the game, fuck it.
>why not preload your os with viruses and spyware
are you even listening? [...] you get to enjoy new better features that come with them that you can't on older windows versions because they are not supported on them or not introduced. typed on my win 11 machine.
NHETERR MNEW FEATISRS
>Y...YOU CAN ... T....TAB W...WINDOWS
go drown yourself in the river ganges. mumu ogun thunderstrike you. mumu curse you. mumu curse your family.
windows 10 does literally everything windows 11 does. name one thing
tabs in explorer
alright you got me, but these two things can be implemented in 10 in a number of ways. no need to install 11 to do these.
you can also run windows games on linux but fuck that. i'd rather use windows, straight up. you know what i am sayin? you can go fuck yourself in a number of ways.
I'm not a pajeet so I use MacOS, the white man OS.
>the white man OS
*white gay man
they raped the taskbar and made the start menu ugly, it didn't even have native support for taskbar button ungrouping until recently
also i'm not sure what this has to offer over windows 10
you have to hack the registry to get the right click menu back.
they've completely fucked up the taskbar just so it looks neater.
fuck off Microsoft, you're dead to me.
removing labels and replacing them with tiny shitty icons is ridiculous.
they think people can tell which one is copy and which icon is paste, not according to the dozens of customers I have to deal with.
this is the worst UI I've EVER seen
They are aiming for the touch screen audience, just like they did with windows 8.
They refuse to learn from their failure.
They have the same vigour to remove functionality of a Gnome dev, but with the UX sensibilities of a KDE dev.
it was obviously designed by women, it puts looks ahead of functionality.
More like lose11.
its win 10 with rounded corners and a worse task bar and start menu
i moved to linux :>
The file explorer is much slower... ~~*redesigned*~~
Win12 is out next year and Win10 is still supported. Why bother with a broken mess of an OS?
Security, win11 is already 2x more secure than win10
explain math please
secure against what? Mental midgets giving their credit cards to street shitters?
You have to actively be a retard online to need "online security"
W10 will be the last OS I'll take and I already regret W7 enough
Unless windows 12 ends up being a big (and I mean BIG) upgrade from windows 10 then I'll move from desktop OS forever. Everything can be done on mobile nowadays.
because arch linux. i will say there is a steam app called wallpaper engine, works for win 10 or 11 i believe but the wallpaper called Flow is awesome. i dualboot and have it installed on windows for when im high and want to mindlessly amuse myself
idk what everyone's on about, w11 just werks
The shell's written in JS just like GNOME, so that's a no.
>Why not win
because I already did win
Just came here at the recommendation from the good folx at reddit, how do I upvote this post?
thanks for the updoot kind stranger
I tried it out and it was utter fucking garbage.
They fucking downgraded the taskbar for no reason, the new thing is a fucking abomination.
The right click menu is ridiculous beyond belief, they added a new menu but didn't also add all the old options to the new one so they instead add another option in the new menu to... open the old menu instead. This is stupid beyond comprehension.
The redesign of the Task Manager is also equally retarded. They replaced the compact, readable, immediately clear tab bar at the top with a fuckhuge, wide piece of shit on the left that wastes ton of space with literal empty nothingness if you want to get labels, or you can collapse it and instead of text you get icons so irrelevant to the tab's content they may as well be randomly generated. Extremely bad.
The new UI in general seems to waste a lot of fucking space for no reason (the W10 "modern" UI is equally bad and ugly though), everything is wide and fuckhuge, as if it's intended to be operated via a forehead-slam touchscreen instead of a mouse or keyboard. Terrible.
And perhaps what is the most disappointing is Auto HDR. I recently got a pretty nice HDR1000 screen and being able to automatically convert SDR games to HDR sounded like a really cool feature, but I quickly realized that this crap only works on a restrictive, small list of games and basically nothing I wanted to play in the future was on it. I tried it in Dark Souls 3 which was allegedly supported and after turning it on I couldn't even fucking tell if it was actually on or was bugged and not triggering. The monitor was in HDR mode but the game didn't look good, I assume it was bugged and not working and I didn't have the patience to troubleshoot. Shit once again.
When you take into account the fact that you need Secure Boot and TPM turned on for fuck knows what mysterious purpose (they certainly don't provide any useful functionality to me), W11 is more garbage and a greater miss than W8.
Windows 11 is great, i like it
it almost doesn't make sense
they did the fucking bullshit that has more inconvenient interface, settings, consumes MUCH more memory and ram only for fucking beautiful interface
and it hasn't been really improved where it's highly required
Most people on LULZ dislike windows 11 simply because it will not work on their c2d PC or they cant cope with modern UI. People that may have some legit reasons to dislike windows 11 will never come to autistic circlejerks and whine about the whole world being against them.
no reason to switch from W10. I'll probably skip it, and move to the next one (which will probably be even shittier).
I prefer hackintosh
is this thing still around?
I thought people got bored and moved on
W11 has terrible ux problems. It is not fucking constant. They need to redesign/remake it from the zero
It’s sad because I actually like the fluent design language I just hate how they’ve implemented it all
I let the retards beta test it, and it will be stable once win 10 updates expire.
It just doesn't work. My mom got a new laptop with windows 11 and it was slow, installed stuff like candy crush and spotify on it's own, and the audio just didn't work. I installed debian for her and she hasn't had any issues since
I made my mom run Solus for a year cause she kept junking up her PC and didn't give her the root password
She was happy all year
Werks for me
I have a second partition with win11 that I setup to play around with it and I’m just not compelled to switch to it. It doesn’t add anything to my computing experience and annoyingly removes some things that I depend on like being able to move my taskbar around. I just don’t see the point in “upgrading” to lose features or have them moved to other places when I’m already happy with how my PC works and runs
SO basically I'm just not going to upgrade to windows 11
I know... UGHHH I know...
It's just that I'm not going to get the upgrade is all
Microslop ecosystem is too bloated and ruins my workflow. I just use Linux + Android and Google Apps + Google Cloud
i switched from linux to win11 to run my pirated apps, no complaints so far after debloating ^^
Why? What's the fucking point when Windows Ten is still supported till 2025. By then Windows 12 will be out or will be shortly thereafter. Hopefully 12 will see the return of sanity to MS and the dropping of the whole 'forced hardware" shit.
>the whole "forced hardware" shit
Windows 12 will probably not even force you to have hardware at home at all lmao
also not sure if bait or not
I have it on one of my work laptops. It's more annoying than Win10 since they rewrote Notepad (!) and Task Manager (!!) as some sort of webshite apps that keep HANGING and spazzing out.
It's shameful is what it is.
>no more overlay when using keyboard media keys to switch music
>taskmanager takes MUCH longer to switch tabs
>windows explorer takes MUCH longer to open
>50% of the start menu space is blocked for non enterprise users
>windows explorer now has tabs (nice) except it doesn't automatically group all windows, you have to manually drag them in (LOL!)
oh yeah, forgot to mention them hiding the old rightclick context menu behind some naggerpiece of shit
believe it or not, they sill haven't fixed file explorer stealing focus randomly
Some of us are still running Windows 7 because 10 is such dogshit in comparison
>B-B-But anon, it's insecure, you'll get hacked!
Still waiting, retard
>b-b-but anon, W10 does XYZ better!
Yeah, like what? Name one thing that can't be replicated by a better program/software on W7. I'll wait.
>b-b-but anon, steam is ending support, what about muh gaymes!
Windows Vista user's are still running steam and playing modern games, all it takes is not updating to their most recent client that's bloated to shit and runs like shit.
>b-b-but anon, XYZ told me W7 is bad because of ABC!
Alright, have fun with your piece of shit bloatspyware OS, I'll continue to have 0 issues with my "dated" and "insecure" operating system.
This. Ms has gone downhill since win7. Win8 was shit. 8.1 an attempt to fix that shit. 10 they decide to go hard in the paint for telemetry. Judging from people's reactions here, it's likely safe to assume telemetry is worse in 11. 12 seems like it doesn't even perform well.
>it's likely safe to assume telemetry is worse in 11
It's probably even worse than we can expect
Can you even run Windows 11 with those shit specs?
Why wouldn’t a 4c/8t i7 that boosts to 3.9GHz be able to run Win11?
Idunno you tell me, i haven't ever seen one of those. Guess it's hardware from before my time.
>spaghetticode that's slow on powerful hardware and as unstable as KDE
I'm talking about 10 btw. 11 can only be worse.
I'm posting from 7, I don't main it but damn we I can't believe we took this for granted, it's so much better than anything else.
>Guess it's hardware from before my time.
I update to the newest version whenever i need to reformat or swap out the motherboard, and i simply don't care what any of you have to say about it.
I want Win 11 ARM and developers to properly support music production
it provides nothing that shouldn't be built into w10 anyway
win10 will be on eol in 2025
enjoy trojans, homosexual
Why not macOS Sonoma?
windows is not going away but it is not required. please no cry. saas is only a business need.
I really like the look of the new update, paint looks like a nice simple replacement for those of us who want a light image editor.
I'm using it. I can't wait for Windows 12.
New windows versions should be released like every 10 years now. I get it in times like in the 90s that they needed to release a new version because there were big jumps in the hardware at the time, but right now there is literally no reason to update to windows 11 from 10.
Win11 is based but also shouldn't have been Win11, should have just been 10. So it's not really based.
It just looks like KDE but bad.
Dammit, I think I posted on the wrong thread. Anyways, I still like Windows 7, but I don't use it as a daily driver. explorer.exe is pretty crusty by now. I still go back to 7 and 98SE for nostalgia though.
UI scale wrong 100% looks like 125% compare to windows 10 100%
Stop using Windows.
because macos exists
I'm waiting for Windows 12
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