Why not surplus older generation tanks?


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Don't get why they want the greatest and latest in Ukraine there, older generation tanks would serve good enough, these new era tanks are best suited if you build a battleplan surrounding them which is a big armored thrust which i don't think they'll be able to pull off, older tanks are good enough to be force multipliers in the field anyway plus they're not gonna be as much pain in the ass to maintain.

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Germany is refurbishing 88 old Leopard 1 tanks to send them, will just take a bit. Refurbished Leo 1 are definitly good enough for rear guard dute and infantry support.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Shame they won't make a difference. Khazaria isn't happening.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        mfw the khazaria project is falling apart

        • 1 week ago
          Shekel Goyimstein

          Nooo

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's good enough, if ukrainigs are smart they would pool their tank and wait until the russians attack and then use their tank as strategic reserve, it worked well in Citadel and in 1973

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      *Leopard 2

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        no, its really leop1.
        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/german-arms-group-well-send-139-leopard-tanks-to-ukraine-just-say-when/ar-AA16GQQF

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >88 old Leopard 1 tanks
      You tried Schluchtenscheißer.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    M60s could be used for limited fire support but it doesn't even have a smoothbore cannon and can't be used like a modern MBT. Even t64s would be preferable

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      105mm rifled is a standard NATO calibre so there's plenty ammunition and modern rounds can still defeat anything Russia fields except T-90M and Armatas(which don't matter)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There are no tank battles anymore, lad.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The main goal is to boost hohol morale, but not donate actually enough for them to have a chance of winning. Giving them vaguely nazi tanks is the best approach.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine is winning. Why do they need so many of out tanks?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      So they can keep winning. Duh.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >cold war era tanks
    >latest and greatest
    It’s not fair fellow tankies. Next they’ll start shipping Shermans and spitfires

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This, and why don't they trade with Greece instead? Offer Greece the Leopard 2-s and they could give multiple Leopard 1-s, M60-s, and M48-s in exchange. Greece have 1000 of these combined, and is already a Leopard 2 users, with interest of continueing to upgrade them, so why not just barter with Greece? Don't send subhuman ukies Leo 2-s, it's a crime against Germany.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      lol. They should just send them scrap metal cause thats how they end up.

      https://greekcitytimes.com/2022/11/11/russia-destroys-greece-ukraine/

      Russian military destroyed five Greek BMP-1 infantry fighting vehicles immediately after being delivered to Ukraine.
      The vehicles were destroyed on October 28, the day in which Oxi Day is celebrated annually when the Russian army repelled an offensive by Ukrainian troops in Berestovo in the Kharkiv region, the Iskra news portal reported.

      In addition to five destroyed BMPs, 150 Ukrainian soldiers were killed, while a tank, four armoured vehicles and nine pickup trucks were destroyed, according to the report.

      Two of the Greek RM-70 multiple rocket launch systems, operating mainly in the Kherson region, were also destroyed,

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        also, 1000 HATO generals were killed by Kalibrs

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          with Russia controlling the skies tanks are useless moron

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous
            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Iraq had a shit ton of tanks you fucking retard. What just happened to the 2000+ tanks Ukraine had again?
              you tranny shills are pathetic

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >controlling the skies
            if that's the case then you would see much more sorties than what we have now, the ukraines AA umbrella is still something that they need to be wary even if no planes are being sent out in the sky

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Russia doesn’t control the skies. How tf do you think Ukraine is intercepting cruise missiles?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Ideally noone would send Ukraine anything. Lesser problem if only american made equipment are sent, so european stocks stay intact. This is not Europe's war, this is USA's proxy war, so it's full cost should be on the USA.

        Also USA can literally just barter trash to thirld worlders as a buyback for old timey equipment, e.g. send Africa and the Middle East shitty gmo corn for tanks, so they won't starve for a while (just die in cancer later), you can literally get thousands of T72-s and T55-s this way too, tanks for corn (that even Mexcio rejects).

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    we dont have any pattons in our inventory. they are obsolete and were given away/sold. all we have are abrams and a few thousand of them are in storage doing nothing. comparing latest abrams to an m60 is like comparing a 2023 corvette to a 1972

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >ukraine already has excess T-72s
    >give them shit old tanks that are even worse than T-72s
    Based retard

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      M60s could be used for limited fire support but it doesn't even have a smoothbore cannon and can't be used like a modern MBT. Even t64s would be preferable

      tank on tank warfare is basically irrelevant, any advantage on optics, armor or gunnery or any other hard factors would mean squat if you're not applying it correctly
      they're meant to kick in the manuever stage of battle, this is gunning down to be like the Iran-Iraq War and that shows that even a massive quantity and qualitative advantage on armor is meaningless if you're using it wrong.

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    No M60s left. All sold or scrapped, used for range targets. Any remaining QM60 range targets to be scrapped by the end of 2023

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't get why they want the greatest and latest in Ukraine
    Because it's in fact ww3 and I'm not quite sure how most of the world (including our retarded population) hasn't figured that out yet

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because real fighting data of modern western tanks versus russian gear is practically invaluable to NATO.

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    its just a token gesture retar 50 tanks aint gonna change shit theyll probably be captured or destroyed before the end of the year

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Don't get why they want the greatest and latest in Ukraine there, older generation tanks would serve good enough,
    the war in ukraine is to test the latest weapon systems against each other so that the know which side has the advantage when they finally decide to make the peace treaty. neither the US nor russia wants open war with the other, but a proxy war serves both of their interests concerning weapons development.

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Real countries have specialized military units who spend years training to perfect the art of combined arms warfare.
    Ukraine is literally about to put teenage gamers with no XP inside these incredibly complex foreign vehicles believing they'll somehow be remotely comparable.
    They wont.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      that's why these older tanks are better, just put them in needed fronts on important junction and towns just behind the front lines, make it a hassle for them to capture each town, also reduce the risk of losing a large portion of your power if you get surrounded
      Iraq needed 4 years to get behind the concept of defense in depth, and their soviet predecessor figured it out 80 years ago

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That wont happen. The will be bombarded from distance with artillery and rockets.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I guess Ukraine is short on tank drivers. Otherwise they would be happy with any tanks since they are all just cannon fodder for drones now anyway.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    are you a special kind of stupid or something or probably from /k/ope?
    do you really believe a handful of tanks with completely foreign systems that Ukes have no experience in, that they will have to learn and train with on the spot in the middle of a conflict, will make any difference? that this is anything other than political theater and semantics for the dumb goyim like you to get excited over?

    im embarrassed to even be on this site because of you delusional tards. you emotionally invested yourselves in this idea of humiliating russia, you mistook their mercy and kindness as weakness and it completely backfired and now all you have left is pure and utter cope. imagine thinking russia will stop NOW when they haven't even finished training the forces they mobilized a few months ago while Ukraine is at its weakest point.

    a handful of tanks in the hands of inexperienced forcefully conscripted greens is like trying to put out a fire using gasoline. congrats, you played yourself.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      i have no vested interest in neither side dumbass, i'm just saying that older vehicles would work just as fine if they're operated in a similar capacity to how they are now

      That wont happen. The will be bombarded from distance with artillery and rockets.

      any fronts where we see this happening, i see both sides comfortably putting depots and F.O.B in missile and arty range of each other

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >depots and F.O.B
        waht?

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    modern tanks are already metal coffins imagine being in an old one

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    we gave taiwan all the patons

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