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Why isn't Sedevacantist Considered It's own Thing?

They don't follow the Pope so they aren't Catholic
They aren't Protestant either
They aren't Orthodox either

So Sedevacantists like SSPX and SSPV should be considered a 4th big thing in Christianity.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we call them "a buncha retards" around here

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Christcucks say the same shit about every new denomination that splits from the mainstream church. From Orthodog/Papists to Protestants to Mormons to South East Baptist Church #858329. But at the end of the day they're all a bunch of retards calling each other demonic heretics.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dasha literally just does what her boyfriend of the week does. She's a fucking bimbo.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who's Dasha?

      we call them "a buncha retards" around here

      Sedevacantists should just try to make their own Pope already.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Who's Dasha?
        This bitch. She's been shitposting about Sedevacantism on Twitter for days now.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

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          Forgot pic.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who is this ugly down syndrome looking bitch and why should I care

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasha_Nekrasova

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        >he doesn't know about Pope Michael
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bawden

        His and his followers Youtube channel and website:
        https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWaduOwfCDVxM9Qz02elAgw/videos
        https://www.vaticaninexile.com/index.php

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who? What are you talking about?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Christian splinter cults #2467 and #2468 are not a "big thing"

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay then what are they out of the 3?
      Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox?

      To me the SSPX are saying the Vatican is demonic and evil but also want to keep lots of the old Catholic beliefs of Vatican 1 and before.

      They don't seem Catholic, Protestant, or Orthodox so they need their own category.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Lutheranism and Anglicanism we're originally very similar to Catholicism as well, they tried to be Catholic without the Pope. Over hundreds of years they gradually became significantly different in terms of tradition and ritual. Give Sedes 200 years and they'll be completely unrecognizable, just like other Prot denominations.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          True but SSPX seem obsessed with the Middle Ages and medieval era. I wonder how they'll look 200 years from now. Many trad Caths are considering schism.

          How do you predict they'll be like in 200 years?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But SSPX and SSPV are obsessed with Orthodoxy and tradition.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            True but SSPX seem obsessed with the Middle Ages and medieval era. I wonder how they'll look 200 years from now. Many trad Caths are considering schism.

            How do you predict they'll be like in 200 years?

            That's the thing, Luther made the same argument, that the old Catholic Church was ok, but modern changes like indulgences had corrupted it. He originally tried to work within the framework of the Church, and only started preaching more unOrthodox opinions when it was clear that the he had no other option.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >SSPX are saying the Vatican is demonic and evil
        never heard such a thing from any SSPX priest

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SSPX people online are very big into this though. They talk about the freemasonic plot to infiltrate the Vatican and that the Vatican worship idols like Pachamama.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please show me any formal proof that the SSPX isn't in communion with Rome and is openly schismatic. If not, then why do you claim they are?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Vatican partly disowned them and the sacraments they do are considered illegal

          https://canonlawmadeeasy.com/2021/09/16/when-is-it-okay-to-go-to-an-sspx-mass/

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        according to catholicism they are heretics.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Catholic Church has been Protestantizing since the 19th century. They're just like any other Christian denomination, you can follow them or not, it doesn't matter.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How?

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Dirk

    They are catholic

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    SSPX is not sede

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      SSPX is considered in schism so they are Sede.

      [...]
      That's the thing, Luther made the same argument, that the old Catholic Church was ok, but modern changes like indulgences had corrupted it. He originally tried to work within the framework of the Church, and only started preaching more unOrthodox opinions when it was clear that the he had no other option.

      There's some similarity with Luther this is true. They're even calling the Vatican demonic and connecting it to the antichrist. I'm just saying that Orthodox split off from Catholic first. Protestants did later. But Orthodox and Protestant are different from each other. Sedevacantists will be different than that and will be the fourth big thing.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because sedevacantists aren't making anything up. They're literally just practicing Catholicism as it existed for 1900 years before some liberal homosexuals ruined it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The treaty of Westphalia and Vatican I were just as big of changes to the Catholic Church as Vatican II.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Orthodox say they were practicing the faith as it was until Papal supremacy happened. How is this different than what the Orthodox did?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sspx is in communion with Rome. They're not sedes. Not sucking the Pope's cock is different then thinking the pope has no authority and the see of Peter is empty. I can criticize a president but this doesn't mean I simply don't think the president has authority and he doesn't count as president.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are not a lot of them, especially outside of America. They are irrelevant.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm in the USA so it's relevant to me. How come other countries aren't as into Trad Cath as the USA?

      There's 600,000 people in SSPX. All SSPX Chapels are in the USA.

      SSPV only operates in the USA except for one part of Canada. I don't know how many are in SSPV.

      If scientology is relevant and they only have 25,000 members in the USA, so is SSPX and SSPV.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

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        >There's 600,000 people in SSPX. All SSPX Chapels are in the USA.
        I thought SSPX had Churches across the world? Like this one in the Netherlands

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's wrong. Most SSPX is in America and France and with some presence in other countries.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sneedevacantists are protestants. They blame a "great apostasy" for their existence. They can do and teach whatever they want as long as the sacraments are done a certain way and constantly bicker among themselves over who is *really* carrying the torch of the *real* Catholic faith. They think the current pope is the antichrist and blame everything bad on him. The kids that inherit their tiny churches once the founders die turn them into yet another form of liberal Catholicism with fancy aesthetics like the Dutch Old Catholics. Either that or they turn into a meme borderline ethnoreligion like Old Believers.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You should listen to their concerns instead of driving them away. The Vatican is doing lots of demonic stuff.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The Vatican is secular. The people at the top know this isn't real but they land legotamacy to causes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This idea of a religion that revolves around doing everything some shitlib in a funny hat says is so strange. I wonder how many of the hardline papists are actually familiar with the history of the papacy. Personally, popes have supported a few too many invasions of my ancestors for me to jump in the whole "respect them always and do everything they say" camp. One of them was even explicitly launched to destroy Catholicism in the country, which is pretty amusing.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There's a difference between rejecting modernism (which is what sedevacantists do) and rejecting tradition (which is what Lutherans, Vatican II Catholics, and "non-denominationals" do). Sorry if you can't see the difference.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can. That's why their own category.

      they are protestants 2.0, shameless, the pope is the supreme authority of the church

      They just don't want to join forces with the demonic and want a return to tradition

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are protestants 2.0, shameless, the pope is the supreme authority of the church

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I am more catholic than the pope
    They're protestants assmad at liberal reform in the church

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There are not enough of them to matter. Stop caring about them. They have no power. You are not going to gain anything or gain any power over people by identifying as one.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They matter in the USA. Many people feel similar sentiments and are close to being Sedes.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They dont even have churches in the us. No one cares about it.

        Most Christian's in the us dont care about these issues. They just want a sermon that will make them feel good.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The issue isn't about "most people" it's about the true believers.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who the fuck cares? It's all fiction. We have real world problems and you are concerned with make beleive.

            People like you hold us back by having stupid priorities. The left doesnt beleive in god or norals; they beleive in victory at any cost using any method. If we dont also beleive that we will never win. To put it bluntly we need to be less good and more evil; more evil then them.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I believe in the Benedict Option. I don't like society and am ready to divorce it forever. This is Noah's ark and you either get on the ship or drown.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So basically you are not going to take action and wait for the spaghetti monster to magically solve all our problems.

                Christians are fucking useless.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moving away from everyone else and starting your own mini society is taking action.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Where? They have power at the national level and in every nation. Unless you are planning to just go live in a cave until you die in which case they will sweep up what power is left without resistance.

                You are afraid of confrontation and want to run away and hope a fictional character will just appear and zap your enemies after a few years.

                Not only are a coward but you are trying to infect others with your call to retreat and sit in your ass. You dont benefit us. You benefit them. FUCK YOUR MADE UP GOD. He wont help us because he isn't real. No one will fight back except us. Either we do it or they win. Stop trying to tell people we can win by retreating.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The Amish and Mormons do it. Laws can change by the county level.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then go di that. Live on a tiny patch of land while they take everything and once they have done that they will come for but they will be bigger and badder.

                Run away if you wont but dont try to pretend you are anything more then a coward looking for a comfy place to grow old and die. Comfort means more to you then the nation and civilization.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Rod Dreher is fucking retarded. He whines about the possibility of Christians being persecuted but he converted to Orthodoxy, a religion known for cooperating with authoritarian governments like the USSR and now Putin.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're Catholics, just not Roman Catholics. There are many Independent Catholic schismatic groups that arose in the 20th and 21st centuries actually, and there's an older 19th century group called the Old Catholics. All of these can be considered their own family of Christian groups, just as Orthodoxy is and Protestantism is. Neither of those is a single church, makes no sense to act like the Roman Catholics can be a whole branch of Christianity but the other denominations get lumped into bigger families. Rather, there is a broader "Catholicism" family that includes the RCC, Old Catholics, and Independent Catholics, including Sedevacantists.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So they're still in the Catholic family

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Future person

    Pentacoaatal 3+n^m

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People already consider them protestants in denial.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty funny considering so many catholics today reject the pope, even though that goes against catholic doctrine of papal infallability

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