Why isn't Konrad Adenauer recognized as one of the greatest figures of the 20th century?

Why isn't Konrad Adenauer recognized as one of the greatest figures of the 20th century?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because germans are boring

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      nah

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What did he do except sell out West Germany to the Americans?

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because he was a traitor to the German people who sold his vaterland out to the American imperialists. If history was at all right he would've been hung from a light pole while red banners would be hung from every street in Bonn with the NVA marching through the streets liberating West Germany from American occupation.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      lol the ddr was a vatnik vassal, only difference is that the West prospered and the East stagnated

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The DDR paid most of the reparations whereas the BRD was a welfare kween recipient for the Marshall Plan and paid almost no reparations compared to the DDR. The DDR also was only 1/3 the size of the BRD and still had the highest development, living standards, and power of the Eastern Bloc. The DDR was a proud socialist, patriotic nation. The BRD was a degenerate pedophile nazi cesspool.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He is?

          Romania paid all their debts too and look at how they & that regime is looked at now

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He's just a high-level collaborator, who cares? It's like overhyping Petain in an Axis victory timeline.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's like overhyping Petain in an Axis victory timeline
      No prob at all, even in this timeline France owes a lot to his government

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I do wander how history will remember Frances performance during ww2 as it cools down and the propaganda fades.

        it seems almost a common talking point now about the absolute non-existent on the ground resistance to nazi occupation. it really just was 2 puppet governments (petain vs de gaulle) and because de gaulle won he had to really reshape history to cope with the fact that for the majority of frenchman, after dunkirk and the surrender, the war was finito

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    He's recognized as one of the best statesmen, but 'greatest politician' requires more .... bombasity? Ideology?

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >Stalin offers to reunify east Germany with the western Germany
    >only condition is that the new Germany needs to be politically neutral between the west and soviets
    >same deal that Austria got
    >Adenauer refuses for no real reason

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      The us had already implanted it bases in west Germany and also hold the legal keys to German reunification along side her French and British underlings.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I recognize him personally. He is up there with Deng and Franco for me.

      Germany had too much to gain by staying explicitly pro-US. There’s a reason Germany was far more prosperous in the postwar than France and Britain were despite being the ones that lost both world wars. Germany’s superior quality of life and economy still kept them above the other two until the migrant crisis I’d say

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What did Austria lose by not being an American satellite state?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nothing much but West Germany was seen as the key to winning the Cold War by many American administrations and got much more attention than Austria would have gotten had she remained split. Also West Germany had the best borders, keeping all the most developed parts of Germany while shedding the peasant-dominated East. The CDU was also dependent on the West's Catholic dominance and the East's German voters tendency to vote for extremes would have hurt them

          Has the migrant crisis hurt Germany that much?

          A bit but it's more that around 2015 is when Germany's near indisputable superiority over UK-France came to end. Now it's more muddled

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Has the migrant crisis hurt Germany that much?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Because he's one of the many faceless politicians who had no individuality (unlike almost every political leader of ww2), no notable traits or obvious talents outside of knowing how to make friends among German bankers. A magnificent nothingburger with only good record being funneling Marshall plan money through his friends, resulting in relatively fast recovery from war damage.

      >same deal that Austria got
      You forgot Misc... I mean Finland. They got one too

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