why is package management on windows so bad? is choco to blame, or did windows make it impossible from the getgo?

why is package management on windows so bad?
is choco to blame, or did windows make it impossible from the getgo?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >package management
    just go to the url and download the installer

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. When in Rome do as the Romans do. There's no reason to use pseudo-package managers on Windows.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    winget works fine for me

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why is it bad?
      Also Winget exists.

      do you know about winget?

      winget is literally stolen
      https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/235783/appget-creator-says-microsoft-stole-his-product

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        looks good to me

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how do you steal a curl and unzip frontend

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >half a million loc
          >"just a curl frontend"
          moron

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >half a million loc
            >for a package manager
            lmao and people call dpkg bloated

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              checked. actually it is 100k but still bloated for a glorified curl.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Our package manager will be open source too so obviously we would welcome any contribution from you
        i love freetard tears ngl. he should stop complaining and contribute to winget.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Use extremely permissive license that outright allows other to take the project and close source it
        >Company takes the project and close sources it
        >Cry
        What a retard

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        looks good to me

        >cukc licence
        Many such cases.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >winget upgrade --all
      >half of them fail
      yeah ok

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Winget, just like everything Microsoft has created in the past years, is absolute garbage. Even Windows has turned into utter garbage.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's a bit annoying that the packages aren't up to date though

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dude winget sucks dicks

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >winget works fine for me
      Till it randomly stops working again, having to reset the repos.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why is it bad?
    Also Winget exists.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    do you know about winget?

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's not great but it's better than nothing.
    Nothing worse than some homosexual package manager going MIA and not updating / maintaining it.
    Winget is limited but is fine for basic installs.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    scoop works fine
    chocolatey is awful
    haven't tried winget

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This, just use scoop; Even though I will add that it can be annoying for setting it up on an admin account.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    scoop is awesome and it just works

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    package management is fucking stupid and i'm glad windows has executables

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What do package management and having executables have to do with each other? Nothing. You realise Linux still has executable files right?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >What do package management and having executables have to do with each other? Nothing. You realise Linux still has executable files right?
        Let me interject for a moment, the reason why package managers exist is to poorly fix the dependency management issue. That's what you get for basing an OS on the outdated Unix model where dependencies are shared. Windows doesn't have this problem because of three things, stable shared system dependencies, frameworks and packaging the most important dependencies for that program in the same root folder of the program.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your post has nothing to do with his post where he implies that Linux doesn't have executables. That implication makes no sense because Linux obviously has executable files.

          >packaging the most important dependencies for that program in the same root folder of the program
          Then you have duplication of dependencies.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Then you have duplication of dependencies.
            Why does that matter, we today have more storage than any unix dev would have ever dreamed off? Software developers build against an exact version of a dependencies literally the minuscule change can fuck up the working of programs, and trying to make programs use all the same dependency is recipe for disaster.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your post has nothing to do with his post where he implies that Linux doesn't have executables. That implication makes no sense because Linux obviously has executable files.
            This isn't even a midwit reply. This is well-below-average-wit. Please consider blowing your brains out.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because anyone who cares just uses linjx

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    windows doesn't need a package manager
    needing a package manager is a symptom of a problem, not a benefit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's wrong though. E.g. if I want to upgrade Node then running `winget upgrade OpenJS.NodeJS.LTS` is way, way less effort than going to their website, downloading an installer, and running the installer. Sure maybe you'll manage Node with nvm-windows but that's basically a package manager itself, essentially.

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why is .... windows so bad?
    because it's windows. anyone with a room temp IQ has already ditched it

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >>why is .... windows so bad?
    >because it's windows. anyone with a room temp IQ has already ditched it
    Bait posters should be getting the death sentence.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >want to upgrade my calculator for rounded buttons
    >package manager insists on upgrading my c library and kernel
    >breaks them
    you can keep that shit for yourself linuxtards

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >things that never happened

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scoop, fellow sirs. Do the needful today.
    >you will scoop the winpoop

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Msft has no actual supported channels. If they just took ownership of package management, it would be way more secure and in turn more usable. Right now it's a good product but things are unmaintained and you can't trust the repo's be default.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chocolatey is pretty good. It's not much worse than the AUR.

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