Why is it when most cis people talk negatively about trans people, it’s always in reference to mtfs and almost never in reference to ftms?

Why is it when most cis people talk negatively about trans people, it’s always in reference to mtfs and almost never in reference to ftms?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mtfs are what most people think of when they think of transgenders. The tone online has changed though (at least on the forums I'm on) and Ftms are hated equally now.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because trans girls are what everyone really hate. FtMs are just along for the ride but most people don't give a single fuck about FtMs specifically.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    mtfs are considered men and therefore dangerous/creepy/predatory/etc
    ftm are considered women and therefore foolish/stupid/cringe/etc

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The narrative around FtMs is that they're confused innocent girls. So talking about them negatively would be like talking shit about female rape victims.

      This.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's because I'll small feminine people are sacred in our culture and need to be protected if an trans woman is under 5 ft 6 and passes very well in a public swimming pool that's a female she too will be treated decently she's bigger than 5'9 and looks like a hon She will beat over the head with a mallet

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Males are to feared, derided, or ignored.
    Society does not change its stance after they increase their estrogen levels.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because people who see an ftm will think “huh, what an odd looking boy”. Most people who see an mtf will will think “that’s a man a dress, I better not make eye contact with it”.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason why straight men will date openly bi women but way less straight women will date openly bi men. When it comes down to deviation from gender-related norms, females enjoy more freedom than males. When it comes down to the number of a partners it's the opposite.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this. same reason why it's cool and even sometimes encouraged to be a tomboy as a cis f but being an effeminate man garners widespread vitriolic hatred

  7. 2 months ago
    Green

    I've heard both equally, if not more on FtMs
    In the media it's more focused on MtFs because they're viewed as a threat. In the younger generation, FtMs also get made fun of for being delusional girls.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    cis society idolizes masculinity. the fact that someone would openly reject manhood is abhorrent to them, especially incels, who do such a bad fuckin' job at being men. the fact that someone could just not care and be something else after they've poured so much effort into being masculine is an affront to their very being

  9. 2 months ago
    Lukaposter

    People see trans people as extremely gender nonconforming versions of their AGAB. Due to victories by feminism, it is much more socially acceptable for women to being gnc than men. Also it's easier to make those who are seen as men out to be dangerous.

  10. 2 months ago
    Marina

    they see transwomen as predatory men and transmen as lost lesbian sisters who can‘t be blamed for their actions

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think I like that I come from the same country as you do.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Femboy ftms look like.mutilated puppies

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Femboy ftms look like.mutilated puppies
      no they just look hot. femboys (female) are unironically based.

      t. HRT femboy (male)

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Femboy (female) is pretty redundant
        like an ox
        or moron

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because ftms pass easier than mtfs at any given age and in addition generally transition younger because gender nonconformance in girls is much more widely accepted compared to boys, and that younger transition age in turn improves passability of ftms even further

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ftm visibility is much lower than mtf, imo we'll get more shit once people figure out what we look like

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're afraid they will get beat up by a vaginabara which they consider the most embarrassing and emasculating fate possible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the one true answer

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nobody cares how woman behave in regards to gender conformity.
    Also MTF"s are what you think of when you think tranny. It's what people always mean.
    Conjuring up images of girly men in makeup and cross dressing, faggy voices, and big stupid boots.

    We offend peoples sensibilities, and make people uncomfortable, our allure also makes men feel funny.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    there are no trans females

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    mtfs are way more vocal than ftms, I only found out about how retarded ftms can be from this place.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because the ones shoving cameras in people’s faces demanding jobs aren’t the FTMs, they’re hon MTFs, and that’s what I fucking despise most about this shit; word policing and lying for clout.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ummm it goes both ways. When the sports debate comes up ftm are never included in the conversation.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because MTFs are ugly?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >ftm
    >almost always pass as short men
    > don't enter womens restrooms
    >aren't seen as predatory like amabs
    >sports shit
    >easier to accomedate and ignore

    >mtf
    >less likely to pass
    >more likely to be seen as pervs
    >more in high positions in society
    >because masculinity is incredibly anxious due to the feminizing force of techno-capital. they realize it will happen to them one day too

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