Why is it like this? I don't know much about cars but I don't understand this discrepancy

Why is it like this? I don't know much about cars but I don't understand this discrepancy

  1. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Government regulation and money slurping dealerships.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      why are they allowed to regulate that
      imagine if they said all computers have to be as powerful as rtx 3080

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because people are becoming more retarded and the government is requiring car makers to build cars incredibly heavy with limited vision in order to somehow protect pedestrians if they wander out in the road in a pfizer-induced fog

  2. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    muh safety

  3. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You need a special license for a morgan threewheeler?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's technically a motorcycle

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't think you need a typical motorcycle endorsement. In many states "3 wheel cars" are their own category or at a minimum you need a really easy-to-get dumbed down trike motorcycle license. The whole point of a motorcycle license is because of added difficulties of operation of a 2 wheel vehicle over a 4, a 3 wheel is basically a 4 wheel vehicle where you have to be careful not to roll it in certain situations.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bullshit

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Anon is right. A lot of states classify 3 wheeled cars as a weird class. It depends on the states and the vehicle since things like a Polaris trike counts as a motorcycle but a car-shaped one might count as a special class

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.motorcyclezombies.com/3-wheel-motorcycle-trike/texas/#:~:text=Do%20you%20Need%20a%20Motorcycle%20License%20for%20an%20Autocycle%20in,need%20to%20legally%20drive%20one.

            Eat nagger shit you doubting homosexual. Never question me again.

  4. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can buy new car in europe for 11k-15k€. What is cheapest new car in america currently?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mirage for $16k-$20k

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is it because you dont get manuals anymore? Do you get Kia rio, picanto or hyundai i10? Those are like 12k-14k€.

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          No that's the absolute cheapest car

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay, cheapest wagon in europe is currently fiat tipo for 17k-18k€.
            >1.0 engine
            >Manual
            >Surprisingly comes with ac and heated seats

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              99% of new cars minus like one jeep minivan model have AC standard in the US

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Owning a car without AC is unbearable in the Summer. Even up North you need it. Only in the least densely populated areas could you maybe get away without it, but cities have too much concrete and ambient heat generation (AC exhaust from buildings, car exhaust, etc) to not die from heatstroke in the Summer.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >bro were gonna get heatstroke.....
                >max summer temp:25c

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Bullshit, I lived in NYC and shit would regularly get into the mid 90's during Summer (that's fahrenheit because I'm not a commie homosexual).

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                have you ever experienced 35c at 88% humidity

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I've experienced over 100 F at 90%+ humidity, what are you asking about?

                Anywhere that gets over 72 F and sunny during the Summer needs AC if you don't want to be a sweaty mess just commuting. The sunshine alone will push the felt temp well above 80 F.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ok what's your point

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                The point is that no one with sense wants a car without A/C, so there's no point making or selling one. It's just going to sit on the lot until some shivering chihuahua of a human being that finds 90 degrees a nice room temperature to come along and offer way below MSRP.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Who gives a fuck man why are you so obsessed about ac

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                BECAUSE ONE OF YOU FUCKING homosexual naggerS STARTED ACTING LIKE IT'S NOT IMPORTANT OR NECESSARY AND I CLARIFIED WHY IT IS. DON'T ASK QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T WANT ANSWERS YOU FUCKING GORILLA-TIER nagger.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                i dont think anybody in this thread argued against you. but also as someone who lives somewhere way hotter than you having it as a standard feature with no cheaper option is stupid

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                Are you fucking kidding?

                Then what was this?

                >bro were gonna get heatstroke.....
                >max summer temp:25c

                Obviously heatstroke was hyperbole, but the need for A/C as standard is clearly obvious.

                I don't live in NYC anymore, I was using it as an example of a place up North that still gets viciously hot a few days a year and honestly needs A/C for most of Summer. I live in Texas now and I doubt you're hotter than the 105 F I had for most of this Summer and I can tell you with certainty I'd rather light a car on fire than buy it without A/C.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >then what was this
                just making fun of northerners i really dont care about your ac tirade at all your hyperbole is cringe

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not a Northerner, I lived there for 3 years because I was told lies and didn't realize how shitty New York actually was.

                You're a homosexual and you deserve a car without A/C as punishment.

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                I’m Floridian and routinely see 95° 100% humidity in the summer, and only use a/c when I have cold groceries in the car. Otherwise it’s cr00zin with the windows down and the radio up

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Chevy sonic starts at 14-15 anon

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          Sonic’s been out of production for a year

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      >You can buy new car in europe for 11k-15k€
      Yeah, a fucking Sandero. Which other car that isn't some new chink import?

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Mirage, maybe Hyundai Accent/Kia Rio, and the Nissan Versa. All the good sub 20k cars are gone now. No Honda Fit, No Toyota Yaris, No Chevy Spark or Sonic, No Fiesta or base Focus. Literally all gone and people wonder why it's hard to get a cheap new car in this country. It wont be long until we lose the Accent/Rio as well as the Mirage if Mitsubishi can get its shit together. Everything is going upmarket and all these women can't live without a tall car.

  5. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why can't we get something like this? Between a car, motorcycle, and a tractor. Obviously maybe not treads. But just something reliable and cheap to run with a practical amount of storsgr?
    As long as it can go 55.
    Nobody can fucking afford these nightmare cars anymore

  6. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Car on the left costs twice as much as the one on the right.

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's your point

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it were produced on the same scale and with the same degree of automation as the right one then I can't imagine it not being far, far cheaper to produce

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Elio tried to be a more practical version of that, but just as they were trying to gain momentum the price of gas went way down and then they switched to EV as soon as gas shot up again. From what I've heard, their strategy was always to get bought out by a big nameplate, so now they're just in limbo without enough money to build cars but not wanting to shut down and lose it all.

  7. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Why is it like this:

    -emission laws making carburetors an absolute non-starter

    -ever increasing safety minimum standards so people can't just off themselves with a sloppy traffic maneuver and then walk away from their debts.

    -ever increasing reliability and longevity of cars leading people to prefer used luxury (or otherwise upmarket) cars over bare bones basic cars. A used Camry will always be a better car than a Versa for the same price.

    -much of the added tech and complexity makes the car more reliable and less likely to break down in the first place. An old school simple car might be straightforward to fix, but it's broken far more often, and most people don't want to rebuild a carb or change spark plugs constantly and increasingly due to real estate costs it's cost prohibitive to even have the work space to do it if you're in a remotely urban area. Also, who knows how many accidents were caused back in the day from shitty shadetree repairs with people that didn't know what they were doing. "Got air in the brake lines, whoopsie daisy!" *everyone dies*

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't romanticize carbs. They went away for a reason. They sucked. Port fuel injection is far more efficient and in many cases it's simpler

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah I want carbs back. Simple shit that you can fix on your own. Modern bike carbs are great. Less tech in a car the better

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        They went away because of emissions regs.
        They were a boon for the shadetree mechanic, because you can tune/repair them with simple hand tools and elbow grease. EFI requires a computer

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >EFI requires a computer
          A $40 scan tool is a really low bar for entry for what you're getting. You don't need to tune EFI because it's self learning and is very accurate. In the old days of carbs the only way to get a good tune was with a huge sniffer machine to calculate how many unburned Hydrocarbons are left in the exhaust. Needless to say no shade tree mechanic had access to that kind of equipment

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Or you could sit there and fiddle with it with a $2 screwdriver. Which, again, isn’t a specialist one-use tool.

            • 3 months ago
              Anonymous

              A $40 scan tool is not a specialist tool. If you're crying over a scan tool then I'd love to see you cry over literally any other specialty tool for fixing cars

              • 3 months ago
                Anonymous

                >can only be used to scan car ECUs

  8. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    My dad bought a '73 Biscayne 4 doors for $4K last month, I will do similar. I want a LTD or Cadillac

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Horrible dd

  9. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just get one of these.

    >light as fuck
    >75km/h
    >no registration, license, or Insurance.

    These things rip.

  10. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    why are convertibles more expensive if you are literally getting less car
    the base model of a car should be a roofless car with no rag top or any lifting mechanism, no ac, manual, no radio, no infotainment or digital anything

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      They have to redesign a lot of the chassis to make up for the lack of structural rigidity. Back in the day it was just “chopping the roof off” because cars were BOF, so it made no difference what you did to the body. On monocoque cars the roof is a major component for the chassis, so chopping it off has a major affect on the integrity. Imagine two bricks held together with a single playing card.
      It’s why modern convertibles typically weigh more than the coupe variant

      • 3 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nah just chop the roof off and let the Poors feel with chassis flex. I'd rather have that.
        Also whatever happened to steelies and wheel covers? Even base models don't do that anymore
        All the shit they do to milk money man

        • 3 months ago
          Anonymous

          >no longer meets safety regs
          >car breaks in half when you hit a pothole
          Enjoy your class-action lawsuit

          • 3 months ago
            Anonymous

            Just say no to the lawsuit. Judicial branch should stop protecting and rewarding clearly unreasonable peoole.

  11. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because people don’t want an $8000 go kart. They want a $400 a month payment on a knockoff Gucci bag

  12. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mainly safety and emission regulations.

    But even more so to get to OP’s questions, compatibility is a big factor. Many car companies now operate as conglomerates, and have parts/factories that can work interchangeably lowers costs across the board and lowers future r&d as well. And even then you got to remember most people aren’t autists like on here and do actually want some level of comfort and amenities, and having a bit more expensive car with some standard luxury features with a lot of sales beats out having a bit cheaper car with abysmal sales.

  13. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    Government safety and emissions standards. Costs money to implement.
    Consumer choice. Bare minimum econoboxes don't sell.

  14. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    im a zoomer I wish cars were affordable. They seem like utter nightmares. they are actively deteriorating whether you drive them or not. everyone selling a used car is a swindler right now. manuals are insanely rare and expensive.
    it's just not fair. millennials had it so easy

    im basically forced to buy a motorcycle at this point

  15. 3 months ago
    Anonymous

    >corolla
    >complex
    man, you must be stupid

    • 3 months ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of is

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