Dickens was a rabidly anti-Catholic Anglican, but apparently had an apparition of the Virgin Mary. So I hope he softened up. >‘Answer me one… question!’ I said, in an agony of entreaty lest it should leave me. ‘What is the True religion?’ As it paused a moment without replying, I said – Good God in such an agony of haste, lest it should go away! – ’You think, as I do, that the Form of religion does not so greatly matter, if we try to do good?’ >‘Or,’ I said, observing that it still hesitated, and was moved with the greatest compassion for me, ‘perhaps the Roman Catholic is the best? perhaps it makes one think of God oftener, and believe in Him more steadily?’ >‘For you,’ said the Spirit, full of such heavenly tenderness for me, that I felt as if my heart would break; ‘for you it is the best!’
>Their literature will forever dominate global culture
The whole world can't name a single British writer besides Shakespeare and even that guy was actually a black lesbian who did not actually exist
They can name Dickens and JK Rowling. The whole world can't name any American authors besides Stephen King and Melville, maybe Poe. That's not a good measure.
Meanwhile, they all queue round the block to see James Bond and Harry Potter movies. And Sherlock Holmes is bigger in China than Star Wars will ever be.
Sorry friendo, the yanks took over English (the language) culture
Can you give specific examples? I kinda see where you’re coming from but I’m curious what you’re basing your judgment on (in the unlikely case you’re not just doing dull generic /int/posting).
Authors like Dickens are always way too long and boring in their writing. It seems to be a common theme. Most British novels also have very uninteresting plots, like old mysteries.
You don't really read classical literature, British or otherwise, for thriller plots. It's all about the exploration of themes, preferably in a way that feels organic and not didactic for the reader. English 19th century novels do tend to have a particular focus on the human condition, but really the style of writing is not so different from the rest of mainland Europe at the time.
who is actually even worth reading from England? im reading Dickens, will be reading some chesterton soon, and i have paradise lost on my shelf soon. ive also read Shakespeare of course
who else should i look into? aristocratic drama like jane austen just seems like it wouldn't be able to compete with the likes of Tolstoy who ive already read, but thats admittedly a pretty uninformed judgement on my part
British lit just doesn’t align very well with this board’s meme preoccupations (Modernism, Postmodernism, 19thc. Idealist philosophy, overtly Philosophical 19thc. novels). Romantics and Victorians may not be to your taste but I think some of them probably belong on there too, along with fun stuff like the Restoration and Augustans.
I don't have proof but I am starting to suspect the golden age of Spanish lit is secretly among the world's best. I found Balthasar Gracian recently and he's amazing
British lit annoys me because it's all "muh society". Le children are chimney sweepers, le class & social issues, le two people are in love but there's a social barrier preventing them. Boo hoo. I don't care about British society, I care about life itself which is why continental Euro lit/American lit is way better.
This is true. I Dickens is such a fucking slog to read. >all of these ccharacters are united by a central plight despite having their own indidual places within the system
shut up and tell a good story about one or two people and don't make it a big satirical social commentary
John Fowles is bewilderingly fun, at least in The Magus. I’m slowly getting through The French Lieutenant’s Woman (which some see as his even greater masterpiece), and even though the premise doesn’t grab you by the balls like The Magus’s does, it’s still a pretty entertaining postmodern rendition of the Victorian novel.
Even the most cliched choice of the great English writers, Shakespeare, is still gripping hundreds of years later. How can you call them “bland”? Maybe your brain has been desensitized by quick little bursts of dopamine from social media/forum/imageboard/internet scrolling?
>never had a deep-fried Mars bar
I had a deepfried twinkie at a state fair once, it was actually decent. Frying foods excessively is an American thing though.
>Frying foods excessively is an American thing though.
it's a scottish thing first and foremost
Comes from being protestants.
All their best non-Irish authors are crypto-Catholics
Dickens was a rabidly anti-Catholic Anglican, but apparently had an apparition of the Virgin Mary. So I hope he softened up.
>‘Answer me one… question!’ I said, in an agony of entreaty lest it should leave me. ‘What is the True religion?’ As it paused a moment without replying, I said – Good God in such an agony of haste, lest it should go away! – ’You think, as I do, that the Form of religion does not so greatly matter, if we try to do good?’
>‘Or,’ I said, observing that it still hesitated, and was moved with the greatest compassion for me, ‘perhaps the Roman Catholic is the best? perhaps it makes one think of God oftener, and believe in Him more steadily?’
>‘For you,’ said the Spirit, full of such heavenly tenderness for me, that I felt as if my heart would break; ‘for you it is the best!’
Their literature will forever dominate global culture. Seethe moar, shitholer.
>Their literature will forever dominate global culture
The whole world can't name a single British writer besides Shakespeare and even that guy was actually a black lesbian who did not actually exist
They can name Dickens and JK Rowling. The whole world can't name any American authors besides Stephen King and Melville, maybe Poe. That's not a good measure.
Hemingway, Mark Twain, Lovecraft, maybe Faulkner
>That's not a good measure.
>implying Chinks and Pajeets have read Faulkner
Who cares what chinks read?
Cultivation novels, web novel crap and rehashes of Journey to the West.
We were discussing global influence of western nations. Do try to keep up.
Speaking of eastern nations, I unironically believe they read more German literature than English literature (emphasis on the word literature)
I'm sure you believe lots of schizo crap.
I wouldn't be surprised if both of those countries read more classics than yanks do at this point.
>Lovecraft
>Lovecraft
Lovecraft would have been very happy reading this post.
No one mentioned Americans until you did
So who the fuck do people read if it's neither of the two?
Meanwhile, they all queue round the block to see James Bond and Harry Potter movies. And Sherlock Holmes is bigger in China than Star Wars will ever be.
>Neetflix and Disney
LMAO
are you implying Marvel goyslop and Fast and the Furious aren't bigger?
The Chinese have literally banned that shit because of its cultural degeneracy.
Sorry friendo, the yanks took over English (the language) culture
surely you jest
Your crazy. Their canon is so deep you could hate 80 percent of it and still not read everything you do like. AlsoIm eating bread and butter
Evelyn Waugh is pretty funny
DH Lawrence’s books have me chubbies a few times
Can you give specific examples? I kinda see where you’re coming from but I’m curious what you’re basing your judgment on (in the unlikely case you’re not just doing dull generic /int/posting).
Authors like Dickens are always way too long and boring in their writing. It seems to be a common theme. Most British novels also have very uninteresting plots, like old mysteries.
You don't really read classical literature, British or otherwise, for thriller plots. It's all about the exploration of themes, preferably in a way that feels organic and not didactic for the reader. English 19th century novels do tend to have a particular focus on the human condition, but really the style of writing is not so different from the rest of mainland Europe at the time.
who is actually even worth reading from England? im reading Dickens, will be reading some chesterton soon, and i have paradise lost on my shelf soon. ive also read Shakespeare of course
who else should i look into? aristocratic drama like jane austen just seems like it wouldn't be able to compete with the likes of Tolstoy who ive already read, but thats admittedly a pretty uninformed judgement on my part
Samuel Johnson, Prince of Abyssinia
Dickens, the Brontë sisters, Trollope, Hardy, Wilkie-Collins, Thackeray. That should be enough to get you started.
Christopher Marlowe - Doctor Faustus.
William Blake
Chesterton is great.
Wodehouse muthafucka
Full English is G-D tier.
>Another anti-British thread
Get a life.
Beowulf
Chaucer
Milton
Marlowe
Shakespeare
Dickens
Austen
Bronte Sisters
Tolkien
Martin Amis
Just name a few off the top of my head. If you mind all these bland and boring it's probably because you are stupid. End of.
What is the motivation behind this anti-Anglo animus?
British lit just doesn’t align very well with this board’s meme preoccupations (Modernism, Postmodernism, 19thc. Idealist philosophy, overtly Philosophical 19thc. novels). Romantics and Victorians may not be to your taste but I think some of them probably belong on there too, along with fun stuff like the Restoration and Augustans.
>What is the motivation behind this anti-Anglo animus?
Perfidious Albion is a blight on world history.
The Eternal Anglo always up to no good.
Post your nationality, I dare you.
Big and scary dare there
Spain
I don't have proof but I am starting to suspect the golden age of Spanish lit is secretly among the world's best. I found Balthasar Gracian recently and he's amazing
>socialist money-sponge reliant on EU handouts
I guess that explains your crippling insecurity.
anon all of those are the names of braindead hacks
>What is the motivation behind this anti-Anglo animus?
Insecurity and envy, of course.
Kingsley Amis
What is the Gregg’s sosij roll of Brit Lit?
>Just like they food n shiet
British lit annoys me because it's all "muh society". Le children are chimney sweepers, le class & social issues, le two people are in love but there's a social barrier preventing them. Boo hoo. I don't care about British society, I care about life itself which is why continental Euro lit/American lit is way better.
They had their revolution too early and global domination kinda fucked them culturally.
This is true. I Dickens is such a fucking slog to read.
>all of these ccharacters are united by a central plight despite having their own indidual places within the system
shut up and tell a good story about one or two people and don't make it a big satirical social commentary
John Fowles is bewilderingly fun, at least in The Magus. I’m slowly getting through The French Lieutenant’s Woman (which some see as his even greater masterpiece), and even though the premise doesn’t grab you by the balls like The Magus’s does, it’s still a pretty entertaining postmodern rendition of the Victorian novel.
Even the most cliched choice of the great English writers, Shakespeare, is still gripping hundreds of years later. How can you call them “bland”? Maybe your brain has been desensitized by quick little bursts of dopamine from social media/forum/imageboard/internet scrolling?