Why have there been a serious lack of Saints in the modern era?

Why have there been a serious lack of Saints in the modern era?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Catholic bros?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      seeing that some saints canonized like 1000 years later, future's sainta walk among us...

      Catholics have more newly canonized saints than Orthodox or Anglican does tho

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You should check the list of new martyrs of Russian Orthodox church, which they have partially borrowed from the Foreign Orthodox church, featuring lots of victims of communism and reactionaries - Romanov family, multiple priests (nevermind their guilt or innocence, if you got shot by communists or used to declare distaste for republic or socialist movements like St. John of Kronstadt, you're already a saint), st. Matrona of Moscow (lots of people daily visit her remains, btw there's an apocryphal story that says that Stalin visited her to ask for advice).

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Canonization requires miracles, which have become harder and harder to prove. Some of the miraculous things the latest saints are alleged to have done are not very visible, to put it nicely.

      >St. Paisios
      >St. Tsar Nicholas
      >St. Alexander Jacobson of Solovki
      >St. John Maximovitch
      >St. Maria of Paris
      >St. Theophan the Recluse
      >St. Ambrose of Optina
      >St. Porphyrios
      >Elder Ephraim
      >Fr. Seraphim Rose
      >St. Iakovos Tsakilis
      >St. Joseph the Hesychast
      >St. Elizabeth the New Martyr
      >St. John of Kronstadt
      >St. Alexander Schmorell
      >St. Ephraim of Katounakia
      >Matyushka Olga Michael
      >St. Philaret of Moscow
      >St. Sophrony of Essex
      >St. Silouan the Athonite
      >Archbishop Dimitri of Dallas
      >St. Porphyrios
      >Elder Aimilianos of Simonopetra
      oh but there are no modern Saints

      >orthodox
      Obviously not the OP's question. Canonization without miracles is just a popularity contest.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        the difference is behaving like a naturalist and obsessing over whether or not miracles are “scientifically explainable” rather than discernment of spirits betrays a kind of humanism

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >is just a popularity contest.
        I doubt that Priest Sergei of Zazhopinsk parish would be anyhow popular among russian people, however, be sure to expect his canonisation because he got shot by cheka for talking shit during wartime period, not because of his spectacular deeds before

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    >St. Paisios
    >St. Tsar Nicholas
    >St. Alexander Jacobson of Solovki
    >St. John Maximovitch
    >St. Maria of Paris
    >St. Theophan the Recluse
    >St. Ambrose of Optina
    >St. Porphyrios
    >Elder Ephraim
    >Fr. Seraphim Rose
    >St. Iakovos Tsakilis
    >St. Joseph the Hesychast
    >St. Elizabeth the New Martyr
    >St. John of Kronstadt
    >St. Alexander Schmorell
    >St. Ephraim of Katounakia
    >Matyushka Olga Michael
    >St. Philaret of Moscow
    >St. Sophrony of Essex
    >St. Silouan the Athonite
    >Archbishop Dimitri of Dallas
    >St. Porphyrios
    >Elder Aimilianos of Simonopetra
    oh but there are no modern Saints

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot Fr. John Romanides and Bishop Kallistos Ware.

      Canonization requires miracles, which have become harder and harder to prove. Some of the miraculous things the latest saints are alleged to have done are not very visible, to put it nicely.

      [...]
      >orthodox
      Obviously not the OP's question. Canonization without miracles is just a popularity contest.

      >Canonization requires miracles
      Not necessary on orthodoxy, the feats done to the church and the proven intercession during prayers can confirm one canonization.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >Fr. Romanides
        you literally weasel around his severely problematic and wrong theological statements by saying “you’re not as theosisized as him”, get out of here.

        you ARE right about miracles tho, and bringing in “muh basedence” is fake and ghey and shows the Latins are desacralizing the world,

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >his severely problematic and wrong theological statements by saying “you’re not as theosisized as him”, get out of here.

          I disagree, i stand next to my Archbishop, who considers his theology the purest inside the greek-bizantine christianity.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >I disagree, i stand next to my Archbishop, who considers his theology the purest inside the greek-bizantine christianity.
            wasn’t he a proponent of metaphysical nominalism?

    • 1 year ago
      Amonymous

      tsar big dumb moron is now a sain
      russian orthodox church is nothing more than a government oulet
      commies should have finished the job

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >Fr. Seraphim Rose
      While many Orthodox do have personal devotion to him, he isn't canonized yet.

  4. 1 year ago
    Dirk

    Because cessationism is true and the alleged miracles over church history are largely folklore. Saint Alban lived in a pre youtube world where nobody could tape his head bouncing along and making springs.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      But, Dirk. You believe in miracles.
      When God speaks to you, that's not natural reality playing out it's billiard-ball game of atoms bouncing off each other.

      • 1 year ago
        Dirk

        Cessationism is not the rejection of miracles

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Just the falsifiable ones?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Just the ones that happen to Catholics.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Come back in a few hundred years

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      What will happen in a few hundred years?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Christianity will have become unrecognizable.

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    .
    >You live surrounded by every form/medium of sin and temptation imaginable. The second your out of the womb your under the influence of spiritual and psychological powers to such a degree the average individual is completely unaware of the deception and warfare committed against them. Youth have never been more easily corruptible especially in relation to sexual immorality. The youth also has become fully scientific the religion of scientism has replaced the Church in the modern world. Social media is the manifestation of self worship so vanity, pride and immodesty rampant the essentials virtues of the modern world. Humility is completely nonexistent a forgotten virtue. Everything is inverted, everything is backwards like the kingdom of the Adversary.
    Why do you think anon. All the saints now have withdrawn into the wilderness to pray for the state of humanity knowing that the Beast is potentially near.

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because cameras and critical thinking exists now.

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When will we get our first openly lgbtq+ saint?

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Since it is a sinful lifestyle, probably never.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Lol that's like the best example of a oxymoron.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      They always existed.

  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    What are you talking about? The Catholic Church hands out canonization like candy these days. You would think we live in the most godly time in history with all the modern saints being declared

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      The church really does hand out canonizations like candy. We even have Saint John Paul II the Great, the patron saint of sexual abuse cover ups. One of his buddies that he defended, Maciel, was literally about to be a saint before his history of abuse started to become known to the world.

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    St Padre Pio died in 1968. He was a holy man and had many many miracles.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    A saint is just a christian.

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