Why have there been a serious lack of Saints in the modern era?
Why have there been a serious lack of Saints in the modern era?
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Catholic bros?
seeing that some saints canonized like 1000 years later, future's sainta walk among us...
Catholics have more newly canonized saints than Orthodox or Anglican does tho
You should check the list of new martyrs of Russian Orthodox church, which they have partially borrowed from the Foreign Orthodox church, featuring lots of victims of communism and reactionaries - Romanov family, multiple priests (nevermind their guilt or innocence, if you got shot by communists or used to declare distaste for republic or socialist movements like St. John of Kronstadt, you're already a saint), st. Matrona of Moscow (lots of people daily visit her remains, btw there's an apocryphal story that says that Stalin visited her to ask for advice).
Canonization requires miracles, which have become harder and harder to prove. Some of the miraculous things the latest saints are alleged to have done are not very visible, to put it nicely.
>orthodox
Obviously not the OP's question. Canonization without miracles is just a popularity contest.
the difference is behaving like a naturalist and obsessing over whether or not miracles are “scientifically explainable” rather than discernment of spirits betrays a kind of humanism
>is just a popularity contest.
I doubt that Priest Sergei of Zazhopinsk parish would be anyhow popular among russian people, however, be sure to expect his canonisation because he got shot by cheka for talking shit during wartime period, not because of his spectacular deeds before
>St. Paisios
>St. Tsar Nicholas
>St. Alexander Jacobson of Solovki
>St. John Maximovitch
>St. Maria of Paris
>St. Theophan the Recluse
>St. Ambrose of Optina
>St. Porphyrios
>Elder Ephraim
>Fr. Seraphim Rose
>St. Iakovos Tsakilis
>St. Joseph the Hesychast
>St. Elizabeth the New Martyr
>St. John of Kronstadt
>St. Alexander Schmorell
>St. Ephraim of Katounakia
>Matyushka Olga Michael
>St. Philaret of Moscow
>St. Sophrony of Essex
>St. Silouan the Athonite
>Archbishop Dimitri of Dallas
>St. Porphyrios
>Elder Aimilianos of Simonopetra
oh but there are no modern Saints
You forgot Fr. John Romanides and Bishop Kallistos Ware.
>Canonization requires miracles
Not necessary on orthodoxy, the feats done to the church and the proven intercession during prayers can confirm one canonization.
>Fr. Romanides
you literally weasel around his severely problematic and wrong theological statements by saying “you’re not as theosisized as him”, get out of here.
you ARE right about miracles tho, and bringing in “muh basedence” is fake and ghey and shows the Latins are desacralizing the world,
>his severely problematic and wrong theological statements by saying “you’re not as theosisized as him”, get out of here.
I disagree, i stand next to my Archbishop, who considers his theology the purest inside the greek-bizantine christianity.
>I disagree, i stand next to my Archbishop, who considers his theology the purest inside the greek-bizantine christianity.
wasn’t he a proponent of metaphysical nominalism?
tsar big dumb retard is now a sain
russian orthodox church is nothing more than a government oulet
commies should have finished the job
>Fr. Seraphim Rose
While many Orthodox do have personal devotion to him, he isn't canonized yet.
Because cessationism is true and the alleged miracles over church history are largely folklore. Saint Alban lived in a pre youtube world where nobody could tape his head bouncing along and making springs.
But, Dirk. You believe in miracles.
When God speaks to you, that's not natural reality playing out it's billiard-ball game of atoms bouncing off each other.
Cessationism is not the rejection of miracles
Just the falsifiable ones?
Just the ones that happen to Catholics.
Come back in a few hundred years
What will happen in a few hundred years?
Christianity will have become unrecognizable.
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>You live surrounded by every form/medium of sin and temptation imaginable. The second your out of the womb your under the influence of spiritual and psychological powers to such a degree the average individual is completely unaware of the deception and warfare committed against them. Youth have never been more easily corruptible especially in relation to sexual immorality. The youth also has become fully scientific the religion of scientism has replaced the Church in the modern world. Social media is the manifestation of self worship so vanity, pride and immodesty rampant the essentials virtues of the modern world. Humility is completely nonexistent a forgotten virtue. Everything is inverted, everything is backwards like the kingdom of the Adversary.
Why do you think anon. All the saints now have withdrawn into the wilderness to pray for the state of humanity knowing that the Beast is potentially near.
Because cameras and critical thinking exists now.
When will we get our first openly lgbtq+ saint?
Since it is a sinful lifestyle, probably never.
Lol that's like the best example of a oxymoron.
They always existed.
What are you talking about? The Catholic Church hands out canonization like candy these days. You would think we live in the most godly time in history with all the modern saints being declared
The church really does hand out canonizations like candy. We even have Saint John Paul II the Great, the patron saint of sexual abuse cover ups. One of his buddies that he defended, Maciel, was literally about to be a saint before his history of abuse started to become known to the world.
St Padre Pio died in 1968. He was a holy man and had many many miracles.
A saint is just a christian.