I was looking around the "homosexuality and religion" page on wikipedia and it struck me that all these traditional pagan faiths had no problem with homosexuality at all. It was only very recently when most of them started adopting homophobic views.
Often this happens when abrahamic religions are introduced, but not always. What's a more satisfactory explanation for this trend?
Because of European colonization
I'm no fan of gays but suppression of knowledge seems to coincide with homophobia. The Greeks, Romans, Persians and Egyptians had no real issue with homosexual activity as long as the traditional masculine archetype wasn't compromised. Being exclusively gay and making a subculture out of it is a modern thing, in past times you could indulge in those acts as long as you still had a wife and children, provided and protected them, fought in wars and displayed bravery in civilian fistfights, and didn't permantly disable a young boy by sodomising him
>Being exclusively gay and making a subculture out of it is a modern thing
This is all it is, really. And is still the case in places like East Asia. It's not some big respected thing with pride parades and equally it's not actively hated with fire and brimstone.
Ive bee having semi-regular sex since I was 14 and I let a twink suck me off like a year ago. I'm not gay but I would definitely do it again after a few drinks now, other than the social stigma of being labelled "gay" I really don't see this issue with something like that
Based. Twink top hits different
I didn't fuck him, nor would I
>Why have societies become more homophobic over time?.
Destruction of pagan societies. With the spread of Christianity.
What about Islam and Judaism?
>it’s a larpagan is a jailgay episode
>it's an anon can't speak regular English anymore because he spends far too much time on the internet
Saying all Pagan societies tolerated homosexuality is wrong. Some individual Greek city states MIGHT have tolerated homosexuals fucking little boys (pederasty) But Germanic Pagan societies drowned homosexuals in bogs, and we know the accusing someone of being a homosexual in Viking age Scandinavia was considered a serious offense that warranted reprisal.
Irish Celts also drowned gays in bogs but only for sodomy. Not for getting a drunken handjob from a qt
Bs because Irish never practiced capital punishment except for treason
It never says why they were drowned. It seems to be ritual sacrifice of war prisoners
Here is another source which tells that capital punishment never existed in irish brehon law
Sodomy was also punishable by death in Greece iirc
It depends on the city, but a great overwhelming majority did punish it heavily by removing your rights as a citizen, with some even shoving a radish up your asshole. Overall it depends on the local laws for their punishment, but a majority considered it disgusting.
Source? The only reference for radish related punishment I can recall is for adultery in Aristophanes
In states like Sparta, yeah, but judging by the existence of the Sacred Band at-least Thebes seemed to tolerate homos.
Spart had pederasty literally built into their society, between apprentice and master in the agoge.
From my understanding, it was more like mentorship in Sparta, like the relationship between a knight and a squire, than true pederasty. Xenophon of Athens wrote that it it was all platonic.
Plato mentions that it was considered abhorrent and an abuse of their position to penetrate their beloved. They would fuck the insides of their thighs and the sub would give oral, only that was considered acceptable
Wikipedia isn't a good source on this, it still claims that pederasty was accepted. If they tell a lie once, they're probably willing to do so again.
pro sodomy mythology
There’s far less slavery in the world and most homosexual sex in history was between a master and his non-consenting slaves.
Yeah because the vast majority of people owned other human beings.
No but the vast majority of historic homosexual sex was among elites and slaves.
How is drowning unarmed men and women not a capital punishment?
Ritual sacrifice is not same thing as capital punishment
Fair point but it seems like semantics, isn't sacrificing a defeated King a punishment?
No because in that case you sentence someone usually member of your own community for crime he commmitted and that community consider it particularly detestable. Drowning rival king is simply killing a rival he did not breach any part of community law
Yeah you did say treason was the exception tbf. I do remember reading something about it when I in school and we'd do museum trips but I'm probably mistaken. I'm simply not arsed to read the entirety of Brehon Law
Also, there's more slaves today than at any other point in human history, retard