Why have so many men lost hope in dating in their early 20s? So many people I know irl and seeing on this website have just given up. I’m 21 and I have had ZERO experiences with girls. I haven’t given up but I’m not caring more and more each day. There’s way too many girls I’ve interacted with that have nothing to offer and think they’re hot shit. I have no problems approaching girls and I’m not bad looking, but they literally treat me like shit, ignore/ghost me, or worse. It’s gotten to the point where I straight up tell them I don’t have the fucking time of day for her. Is this why men aren’t dating? Any help anons?
Who is treating you like that and where? In real life most girls are pretty nice.
Girls from uni
Well that's univ, univ is not like most people. Have you tried elsewhere, maybe work, maybe a popular area?
I've been chasing grills that I got to know from discord, interests group, uni, cold approach one.
Every one was a bitch of some kind, every one had some standard level higher than me.
I'm average
No point bothering as a below average guy
I am not below average in anything
Let's fight. How much do you lift? Do people respect you? And I mean people of any value. Can you play an instrument and masterfully at that?
315 deadlift for reps, 105 ohp for reps, 80 lbs db bench for reps, 20 pull ups. Yes, I am respected and am working on a grad degree rn. Graduated at 20 with undergrad. And no, I can’t play an instrument
>grad student
>respected
Right. I'm gonna have to check out at this point.
Cope I’m doing it online while working full time
So just keep going with all of that.
I've always had women come to me in my relationships. Social media and texting and shit is pretty much a cancer so we are all way over socialized.
Yes. Good women come from good families. Good families usually keep their daughters in good order and you'll be spotted by a father or brother. Bar chicks are mentally ill and emotionally unstable. Just trust me here. One night stands eat you after awhile. I think Andrew Tate is a a glowie because he preaches holy concepts but says he cheats.
Try out different churches.
I personally want a virgin farm girl. I'm 30 and the high teen church girls seem to like me. Most religious fathers understand that an age gap is a good idea. The 20s is a time for many dude to make it or break it.
>315 deadlift for reps, 105 ohp for reps, 80 lbs db bench for reps, 20 pull ups
is this supposed to be impressive?
im 5'10 and 155 lbs and can bench 80 lbs db incline bench, do 20 pull ups, and OHP 135. i do 3-4 x 8 for hypertropy and only lifting for like 4 months...
I never tried deadlifting (i just do one leg romanian dead lifts for balance and back extentions) but i squat like 240ish rn.
I'm 5'11 and 230. I rep 365 for sets of 20 on squat. Going for 405x20x3
Yeah it is you larping fag
Your question wasn't about you dipshit
Masturbation, porn, social media brain, alcohol.
As someone who began no fap around your age and focused on a business, and being mega jacked, and becoming holy good you want a wife that's about 15 years younger than you.
Go to church for a good wife. The women outside of there are fuckin slags I assure you.
The concept of this constant banter between the two of you is also kinda gay.
The reality of life without all these modern social media connections would be basically meeting girls at church until the Dad makes contact.
Marriage should be fairly quick after and then that bitch sits at home waiting for you.
You might be addicted to porn and the sheer image of women. I was there. Their beautiful faces release dopamine. You think cuddling will solve all your problems etc.
It won't. The interactions are shallow and alcohol filled in your life I'm sure too. All based on some "my pp feel" bullshit.
I used to pound put the alcohol and the women are pretty much prostitutes when you sober up. Literally a shot or two away from deep throating a random.
Peak physicality will usher in more broads as well. Learn to fight.
Masculine is achieved not given. Feminine is given not achieved.
I know it seems far off but 30 is a pretty nice age. I have the girls you like after me now. I also don't want them because they smell like dick.
You really think church would help find a girl? I was raised catholic but I haven’t gone in years. My church was mostly boomers back at home but I’m at uni rn, so maybe it’s a younger crowd
>Why have so many men lost hope in dating in their early 20s?
Hoeflation
This is also true. American culture has crafted nothing but carbon copy fuccbois and slags.
People should be considered adults at puberty, men should work exclusively with men and the hyper social culture is a cancer.
Being able to contact 100 people in minutes is mind rot.
Tldr advice for the OP
Don't masturbate
Don't watch porn
Workout daily
Try fasting for long periods
Cut out goyslop food
Fill your idle time with books and not porn, vidya etc.
Go to Church for a wife
I literally just started going again and the women are beautiful and clean in energy. A few hoes but that's life.
Your peak is 30-35
>adults at puberty
>homosocial work environnments
why?
They can create life and become physically adults. Why limit their brains? We've just made a bunch of man children for 50 years in America. Women mature faster than men it seems, but don't mature as far. Men are the extremes of society. The best of the best and the worst of the worst. Women are somewhat negligible as they really are very much the same alot. I can't explain it necessarily but I have met alot of them and so much of the personalities become that of the man that cooms in them. They are insanely submissive usually.
>26
Nah nigga.
what cold approaching 10/10s does to a nigga
Men never want to put effort into dating because they get rejected a lot.
The quality of women has gone down (fatter, less submissive, more promiscuous) while the price has gone up.
We have degraded as well to be honest, so combine all 3 of these issues and really it doesn't seem worth it or even possible to find a good woman.
>Why have so many men lost hope in dating in their early 20s?
Because it IS hopeless
>There’s way too many girls I’ve interacted with that have nothing to offer and think they’re hot shit
this is cap and you know it. Most girls i know my age (im 26) were normal. if i had the balls to ask them out they prob wouldve said yes. some prob waiting for a guy to ask them out.
However for me and i suppose most men, the problem is when youre not financially stable it seems futile. I make 120k rn in NJ. It's a good living for me and a gf. but its not enough if we were to have kids. My parents and i assume most middle class parents usually get into arguments and fights when money is tight. I dont want my love for a s/o to be limited by my finances and dont want to waste 5-6 years loving someone just to grow apart. so i just stayed away from dating altogether. i have a good amount of savings now and considering dating but i dont go out much
Looks.
99% of women either have nonexistent sexdrive, or fap to cartoonish anime males or RL chads. 99% of males on earth look like neither.
my gf has a nonexistent sex drive. It's driving me crazy.
Probably because dating these days is harder than ever before. In addition to that, pornography is so easy to use it makes dating seem like an even more difficult endeavor. There is also the knowledge that we all have now, that some lucky guys out there are treated like gods just because of their looks. It is all very discouraging. But it is still worth it, because your other option is loneliness and despair.
It took me a long time to convince myself to start dating. I got my first gf recently we are now approaching our 1 year anniversary. However, things aren't ideal. I'm really not happy with certain aspects of the relationship, but I know if I leave her I will have to go back to that horrible dating world. But the experience was well worth the time and effort regardless.
I'm 26, very attractive, solid 6.5-7/10, maybe more depending on the woman. Honestly man, I've hooked up with over a dozen chicks, and have been in only one relationship. Women aren't worth it at this point.
Just focus on yourself, and carefully hookup every now and then. Bust the nut and leave. Sure you might find one good woman, I have too. But chances are, like with me, they're attractive and just your type, however there are 100 other guys trying to make a name for themselves in her DM's.
If you're REALLY lucky, you'll find a good one that WON'T lead you one for months, ghost you randomly, or straight up use YOU for attention or sex.
Until you get REALLY lucky and find the one, enjoy life, hookup every once in a while if you feel like it and if the opportunity presents itself (safely), and mainly just focus on bettering yourself and having a great time with friends and family.
Well OP I'm 22yo and I want to find someone but I don't do anything about it. Going through HS and Uni as a kv really took a toll on my self-esteem. I figured out that once I got a job I would find the strength to date because I would have money but meh I ended up doing nothing as always. I've been a porn-addict NEET for 6 months now, can't get a job for the life of me and no girl will give me the time of day if I'm unemployed. I'm not ugly by any means and I've been grooming myself much more, and I'm really tall to my country standards to the point where almost everyone I met for the first time says "wow you're really tall". If anything, I learned that my doomer aura is strong enough to negate any good physical attributes I might have.
I get approached by fuckable, sometimes even hot women regularly but ignore them because they’re always the tattooclad types with BPD and a long list of mental issues. Fuck dealing with that. That brings me to my point. Normal, well adjusted women seem few and far between and seem to exist outside of big cities.
>Why have so many men lost hope in dating in their early 20s?
No father figure. Brain rot from screen time. No idea how to be masculine and court women.
>ACKSHUALLY WOMEN ARE WORSE THAN E-
No, women have always been retarded animals. Men has just been over socialized and emasculated with no recourse but to ask Reddit for help.
how does one be simultaneously over socialized while having brain rot from being terminally online?
Using parasocial media constantly (reddit, twitter, LULZ et al) is prime over socialization. It doesn't exclusively mean being social all the time though that is a component.
The only decent woman I've met so far has been a girl from a foreign country here on a school visa.
She's feminine, has a good girl image, and has high self esteem so she not addicted to attention.
It's made me want to check out foreign exchange women rather than the typical american girls.
Because many young men are terminally online manchildren who have spent less time in the real world, and social media spreads doomerism like wildfire. Not to mention, young women are brattier and have more layers of bullshit to deal with because their dads failed them
can't even afford my own life, much less to treat someone else