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Why have jeans become the default pants?
Why have jeans become the default pants? I kinda hate how jeans make up the absolute majority of pant selection in your average clothing retailer. Even such a basic material as corduroy is completely marginalized. The only alternative you can find are chinos at best
NPCs become attracted to whatever the majority wears, as soon as jeans acquired a following in the 90’s it just snowballed to this point
No
>as soon as jeans acquired a following in the 90’s
I feel like they were somewhat popular before then
They were. Jeans started to catch on as casual wear in the 50s with the popularity of western wear as well as youth subcultures like the greasers. But it wasn’t until the 60s when the hippie movement and relaxing of social dress standards caused jeans to explode in popularity.
ah but you see anon, the 60s were actually 30 years before the 90s
>jeans got popular in the 90s
This is the guy giving you fashion advice on this board
I didn’t really start noticing them until the late 00’s
jeans didn’t get popular until this decade though
If you look back through history, humans of all cultures and eras have at some point settled on a uniform and held onto it until things changed enough that it just didn’t work anymore.
Men’s shirts use to go to the knee with high side-slits so you could tuck the tails between your legs as an underwear layer to project your pants from body gross. This literally held from the 1500s through to the end of the 1800s because it worked with men’s styles. The reason why we were boxers and briefs today is because the cut of pants and the shirt stopped working, so an extra garment became standard.
Jeans are just the current default; they are sturdy and technically don’t need to be replaced often. They’re so durable you can pass them on to the thrift store after a lot of use and the next guy can still use them for a long time.
We keep changing the details to try to keep it fresh, but jeans will probably hold until a superior item is found.
(for reference, Denim was invented in the 1600s, was quietly sewn into the fashionable garments of the time for the poor and working class and only in the mid-1800s became riveted jean pants as we recognize them today).
They’re comfy, durable, low maintenance, versatile, and look good.
>jeans
>comfy
Hell no. I wear all sorts of pants – wool, linen, corduroy, simple cotton chinos and jeans are by far the most uncomfy of them all.
Usually cheap and easy to find, they don’t really age (and if they do, they just look better, which can’t be said about wool pants for example), durable, it’s really hard to heck them up unless you work a physical job in them (and 99% of /fashion/ doesn’t), also you can’t really style them bad unless you go super skinny, everything that you wear as your top will work.
>wool, linen, corduroy, simple cotton chinos
Moleskin trousers are nice too, i recommend them if you can get them in the US.
i love corduroy. wish it was more common outside of one season.
jeans are becoming a lot less denim, and more and more stretchy synthetic shit.
bought 2 pairs of levis the other day, the same type/color that i already have several pairs of. they’re now a lot thinner and stretch almost an inch if you pull on them. hecking garbage – sent them back.
>buying levis
there’s your problem buddy. If you want jeans head to a rodeo shop and get some wranglers, cowboy cut. 100% denim, made in USA, old school design. There’s no good reason to buy elasticized jeans.
jeans have had a following in the mainstream since the fifties. Also to OP, just because something isn’t popular or trendy doesn’t mean you can’t wear it. I wear cords all the time because they are more comfortable and less american, you can wear anything you like if you have self confidence. I don’t know how many times i have said this on here. You lot need to stop caring what other think so much, fashion and style isn’t about blending in its about self expression.
OP here. I mean I hate it not because it’s trendy, but because it limits the selection of other types of pants. I shop at mall brands because that’s basically the only choice where I live, and it’s basically impossible to find wool, flannel or corduroy pants. And I hate only shopping for clothing, because usually it’s too much of a hassle.
*online shopping
Ask for measurements from online sellers.
Try making your own clothes
>I shop at mall brands because that’s basically the only choice where I live, and it’s basically impossible to find
Ever heard of the internet, Cletus? There’s this wonderful technology called e-commerce.
Ever since jeans became popular especially during counter culture in the 60s and 70s, they just stuck around. Now denim does have advantages like durability and it’s easy to maintain, but really it’s just still everywhere because most people simply don’t care what they’re wearing so they just keep buying jeans, because hey it’s been the popular choice, and there’s nothing wrong with that, mainstream brands will always cater to the masses in order to make the most money. I wear more of a vintage style so most of my stuff comes from thrift stores, so that’s an option. Wether it’s wool slacks, chinos or any other kind of pants, they really work just about as well as jeans in our daily lives, but they’re less popular so, they’re less easy to get.
is this an actual old photo of just someone styled like it in black and white?
It’s also the fact that it’s socially acceptable to wear worn-out denim. With other materials, the minute it looks worn people feel like it might as well be damaged; where as with Jeans it’s considered a choice as to how distressed your pants look, so you get to choose when and if to get rid of an old pair. I think the economic aspect to that makes them attractive; consumers like to have a sense of control and personal choice and anything that re-enforces that tends to increase sales.
>cotton pants
jeans are cotton pants you hecking stupid
chinos are not more comfortable than jeans what are you on
This depends on the denim and the chino fabric in question. On average, I’d say my chinos have a softer hand than any of the denim I own, but comfort owes to more than just hand, and I’ve never found a pair of jeans uncomfortable unless the fit was bad or they were super stiff just out of a wash.
>cotton pants
I think you’re mistaken here, jeans are also cotton pants.
they look cool
Question then anon. What should we wear? Joggers dont look good all the time, slacks are more business (in my opinion anyway)
Cargos? Jorts? Track pants?
he mentions alternatives in the comment lol. corduroys are really nice and regrettably hard to find in most major retailers. cargos are nice, i have a couple pairs of milsurp fatigue pants in circulation
corduroy trousers are common as shit on the internet, you just need to measure your waist and not your hips because they are usually high rise, and don’t know why people have problems with online clothing, as long as you don’t buy clothes with vague sizing like small medium and large, that could mean anything. buy clothes what are listed in inches or centimetres.
corduroy is gross.
>and don’t know why people have problems with online clothing
The problem is they’re hecking stupid and too scared, too poor, or both to make an occasional mistake.
I’m poor as heck and unemployed yet i never make mistakes, i wear good quality(second hand) clothes while people working 40 hours a week wear fast fashion shit what will last a month or two. If you are poor you are actually better off buying clothes what last. People think i’m well off because of how i dress until they hear my thick working class accent, but i don’t really, going out in jogging and pajama bottoms is acceptable to people now.
I don’t know what your diary post has to do with what I posted. People on /fashion/ are hesitant to buy clothing online because they’re too stupid to measure themselves and/or too scared and poor to risk the occasional mistake with an online purchase. This leads to countless posts about how online shopping is shit or how some anon can’t wear better clothing because they live in an area devoid of any shopping better than Macy’s.
Sorry, old man ranting.
surely you understand that having the fabric in hand makes a massive difference. it’s not just about fit, material is just as much of an object when buying clothes, and there’s no guarantee you’ll get a good gauge of that just from pictures. i’m tired of buying shit that’s advertised as heavyweight cotton but feels like garbage when you actually get it in hand, etc.
Im not a fan of the corduroy material. And no he only mentions chinos which im not a fan of either
Ha nice
>Even such a basic material as corduroy is completely marginalized
Did you see this post?
Its the truth
>durable
they’re made of denim and riveted together bro
unless you’re buying spandex bullshit (ie, not denim), jeans are durable by construction/definition
Most denim will have spandex nowadays.
Just take the chinopill.
>More comfortable than jeans in the heat
>Comes in a wider range of colors than denim
>Pairs well with any top more formal than a t-shirt
>Nearly every mallshit brand has them
>Socially acceptable in most contexts, if a bit preppy for some
A polo shirt and chinos with loafers or leather sneakers is my daily uniform at this point, and I still feel better dressed than 90% of people every time I go out.
/This
I only have two pairs of dark jeans for nightlife at this point. Chinos are much better.
Is raw denim just a meme? I want to buy quality jeans but denim enthusiasts tell me that treating raw selvedge like any pair of Levi’s will ruin them (live in the tropics so I have to wash pretty often)
>Is raw denim just a meme
yes, just get a pair of cowboy cut wranglers if you want something more heavyweight for 20 buckaroos.
a little bit.
you won’t ruin them by washing them as normal, but you won’t get the sicc fades that raw denim exists for in the first place.
consider also natural, unbleached denim.
I virtually never where jeans, I find them super uncomfortable and honestly I don’t really think they look good. I wear joggers when I’m casual and chinos or slacks when I’m dressed.
It’s kinda weird you say the “only alternative” is chinos like there should be this world of pants readily available. If you don’t like jeans than chinos are a readily available alternative, why isn’t that good enough?
On top of that slacks and joggers are also easy to find, and you can find different varieties, like dress joggers or corduroys, here and there and online.
>If you don’t like jeans than chinos are a readily available alternative, why isn’t that good enough?
Because their hecking ugly. But you wouldn’t understand as a lower class who wears jogging pants in public.
*they’re
Not him, but jeans aren’t exactly high class. Jeans were meant for work and they’ll last longer than chinos, but that doesn’t make them more classy.
They’re both tacky and uncouth.
The only way to salvage denim jeans’ fashionability is by wearing exclusively waxed ones so that they appear to be something akin to leather. Even then that’s just a hack.
You must be that leather suit gay.
I got rid of all my jeans because chinos are just more comfortable and look better. Also they last longer in my experience
Goes with anything, comfort that increases with wear, doesn’t require ironing and doesn’t stain. for general day-to-day wearing that more than compensates for any marginal style difference.
because they are objectively the most practical pants
>Why have jeans become the default pants?
Because the working class has become the default consumer, and those retailers gunning for their money the default stores.
>Even such a basic material as corduroy is completely marginalized.
Corduroy is literally just fuzzy denim. Most people think it looks garish and ugly, like velvet.
>The only alternative you can find are chinos at best
There were never many alternatives.
You have denim/coduroy jeans, chino trousers, silk/wool slacks, cotton joggers, and linen pants—unless you want to wear leather and pvc bottoms, the choice of material and style has always been extremely constrained, and to make things worse, there has been no innovation whatsoever in new synthetic materials to use which might disrupt the stagnant status quo.
because jeans are so versatile?
They ain’t default lmao. I only wear jeans to work or if I’m going somewhere where i can’t wear sweats/shorts. I’m all in on athletic and street wear.