don't disagree but most people who type shit like the OP picrel are usually the biggest hons and it's funny to watch their lack of self awareness on full display
this is just what i look like except short hair + different glasses
why do so many of us look like this
thanks.
I tried no-makeup makeup by using a CC cream+concealer (i'm super pale and look like a heroin addict without concealer under my eyes) + mascara and it didn't really look good on me, so I started doing eyeliner, blush and nude-ish lipstick in addition to that and at that point it's just regular makeup. I don't really do eyebrows because I have dark hair and pale skin so properly tweezed eyebrows are enough for me
if you've got a routine down & it works for you that's really all that matters! for me i've got really unseemly red skin on my cheeks (not rosacea, something much milder, has gotten better in recent years) so green color corrector + foundation are a necessity and i have never even gone near blush lmao.
lipstick, i've never really found a shade that's me + it interferes with my compulsive chapstick usage
ahh see i've only ever tried tube lipstick. maybe i'll find one that works for me eventually?
I need to find a makeup remover that doesn't give me an allergic reaction so I can practice
i usually use a bit of coconut oil + a kleenex (cuz its natural, no weird chemicals) but this is probably not advisable if you have oily skin or something lol
Does coconut oil actually work? I'm postponing makeup because everything is so expensive, including remover. I have a few items, but I still have a lot to buy
I was considering starting practicing the few stuff I have, but I'd have to buy expensive makeup removers
If coconut oil does the trick, then I think I can start already :0
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works for me at least! and even if you find it doesn't work for you i guess you can always use it for cooking so it's not a total waste either way lmao
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Is it expensive where you live? Drug store makeup is pretty cheap and they always have makeup removal wipes for cheap too.
dw, there's someone in that thread with 50 likes saying that she passes with 0 HRT at 6'1, broad shoulders, and a chad jaw because of her makeup and mannerisms.
properly applied classic eyeliner (no wings) with a filled in lower eye waterline does wonders to your eyes.
I mean, it won't turn a hon into a passer of course, but if you look OK there's no reason not to learn to apply eyeliner
not my style? i just do no-makeup-makeup + sometimes mascara and its fine. if i wore heavy makeup it would contrast too much with my general vibe and probably make me stick out more if anything
color corrector + foundation + brows (mine are pretty sparse naturally so i just brush them & pencil in the shape)
and sometimes mascara like i said, which is the easiest thing ever and can really go a long way
thanks.
I tried no-makeup makeup by using a CC cream+concealer (i'm super pale and look like a heroin addict without concealer under my eyes) + mascara and it didn't really look good on me, so I started doing eyeliner, blush and nude-ish lipstick in addition to that and at that point it's just regular makeup. I don't really do eyebrows because I have dark hair and pale skin so properly tweezed eyebrows are enough for me
it’s cool how if you look like a man on hrt people have no empathy until you put on the most overtly feminine things possible and look like a monster, then they just say passing doesn’t matter
Like wow, thanks. I’m really happy now that I look like a freak and absolutely nothing like a woman. Thank god I’m super valid because I tried even though the results were very obviously going to be bad
“don’t transition if you can’t pass” is more helpful than this. it at least stands for something. it at least says “hey you might not be happy if normalcy is unachievable”. what does this stand for other than assuming every one with gender dysphoria is content being a freak and not at all fixing the disease? It’s better advice to say literally nothing. This stuff only helps those who pass anyways or could pass anyways (aka people who probably don’t need the eyeliner)
i'm at a weird halfway point between "don't trans if you can't pass" and "passing doesn't matter". i know i'll never pass but i'm tired of feeling like a caveman and if e + lrh can feminize me a bit and prevent me from aging as a man anymore then i'll be happy just being an effeminate homosexual guy.
well i still have to read this shit so kindly i’d ask that instead they just call me a man and tell me to kms, and say they’re talking to the ones who can pass instead
i despise the trans community. i’d be happy to not be one of you
what you can also do is getting into the habit of putting on makeup right before you shower. going through multiple iterations back to back is terrible for your skin, anyway, and regular practice will beat out the occasional sprint.
i have bad eczema that flares up and swells my eyes shut if i mess around too much :<
earlier in my transition i did try eyeliner for a bit but idk i have an angular face and eyeliner emphasized that for me in a weird way
this, however, is very neat advice ... maybe i'll try a light mascara or something, thank u for this anon
I had this issue a lot of make up removers eventually started to bother my eye lids. Look up the make up eraser it's this soft reusable cloth thing that works really well for removing makeup. It's all I use now in addition to washing my face obvs
okay so how the fuck do you make a pencil not tug on your skin? everyone says that felt tips aren't good for starting out but they're the only ones i can apply somewhat neatly
I learned using those pens that look like thin markers and ended up OK
The Kat con d eyeliner is good and I can personally recommend it, you can buy it in sephora
if you dont pass without makeup and your hair in a ponytail and have nobody question you're trans in a liberal area surrounded by trans people after you have already spoken aloud then you dont pass. sorry.
Early into my transition I had to use makeup to hide beard shadow, so I often also did subtle eye makeup, eyeliner, mascara etc. but now that I'm far enough into laser that I don't need base layer makeup, I usually don't bother with more than tinted eyebrow gel, curling my eyelashes, and putting on some mascara, if I bother to wear any makeup at all.
Daring to suggest that putting in effort will help your transition (she didn't even claim it will make you pass) brings out the best crab in bucket seething from all the terminally online trannies.
Ah yes because effort will fix my lack of any breast growth, narrow body, and receding hairline. I'm not even a doomer, saving up for surgeries to fix myself, but this stuff is so fucking infuriating. Some of us aren't well off from transition and isn't our fault, stop blaming us because we didn't put in "effort".
Just go to like target or something and use the self check out. It's really not that bad even with a cashier they really don't get paid enough to care what you buy. Whether it was makeup as a boy moder or razorblades cough syrup and bandages.
Because I pass without it NGL. So for things like work where I'm in full apathy mode it's not really worth it. I wear it to school tho to look as cute as my gollum moder face can get. Literally my only good facial feature is my eyes and brow. So it helps distract from my dead fish face. TFW when went anorexic one summer in highschool due to dysphoria and immediately gain perma ghoul face
Yeap I know. 1 year HRT no effort otherwise (besides shaving face, best as I can)
Honestly I'm comfortable just boymoding forever. Maybe someday I'll be in a good enough situation I can start working on those things. It's enough for me to just know that my body isn't further masculinizing.
they are 100% correct, eyeliner is literally just an example
there are people on this board who just take HRT for 4 years and do nothing else to advance their transition and then start crying about how transitioning is a scam, they're just unlucky, etc. etc.
like no, learning skincare, makeup, how to dress yourself properly, getting laser, how to style your hair, etc. are all very important. mtf HRT is not actually that powerful unless you start at like 14 and 99% of people are going to need to put in actual effort
Why bother? If you aren't already blessed with good genetics you literally will never pass. At best you'll be humored by SOME cis people in public, trying to be polite.
It's not fair that GRS is covered by insurance generally while FFS isn't. The one that would actually significantly improve passing, while the other is something (ideally) only your partner and yourself would ever see
yeah, I wonder if it's because SRS used to be required for ID changes and stuff so if it wasn't covered then a lot of people would never be able to have correct IDs. and also FFS is mostly just a bundle of cosmetic surgery procedures rather than a specific targeted surgery so idk maybe that's a factor too
insurance covered my ffs
filed
they denied
argued
i won
to the people that lose their ffs insurance cases: guess you're not trans enough considering you can't articulate it well enough to win a legal battle.
>apply eyeliner >suddenly my ribcage contracts, my shoulders become less broad, my hips expand, and I look like I've had three rounds of FFS
wow thanks hon, I just needed to effortmode!
I like to post "just try harder babe" to some hons on here and twitter because they are so insufferable sometimes. They see some tranny that passes and cry to them like they can do anything.
it really complements the razorburn and I don't want to make all other girls jealous so I go for the natural look
don't disagree but most people who type shit like the OP picrel are usually the biggest hons and it's funny to watch their lack of self awareness on full display
They look like this
i take a little bit of solace in knowing 99% of the “just put in effort” bitches would die if they looked like me
she looks small, doesn’t have masculine features, etc. No shit makeup makes a difference
These people could NOT handle looking like an actual man
this is just what i look like except short hair + different glasses
why do so many of us look like this
if you've got a routine down & it works for you that's really all that matters! for me i've got really unseemly red skin on my cheeks (not rosacea, something much milder, has gotten better in recent years) so green color corrector + foundation are a necessity and i have never even gone near blush lmao.
lipstick, i've never really found a shade that's me + it interferes with my compulsive chapstick usage
>it interferes with my compulsive chapstick usage
i just reapply it afterwards, it's a pencil and not actual lipstick so it's easy
ahh see i've only ever tried tube lipstick. maybe i'll find one that works for me eventually?
i usually use a bit of coconut oil + a kleenex (cuz its natural, no weird chemicals) but this is probably not advisable if you have oily skin or something lol
Does coconut oil actually work? I'm postponing makeup because everything is so expensive, including remover. I have a few items, but I still have a lot to buy
I was considering starting practicing the few stuff I have, but I'd have to buy expensive makeup removers
If coconut oil does the trick, then I think I can start already :0
works for me at least! and even if you find it doesn't work for you i guess you can always use it for cooking so it's not a total waste either way lmao
Is it expensive where you live? Drug store makeup is pretty cheap and they always have makeup removal wipes for cheap too.
thank you for the tip I'm gonna try that thanks
Kill all ungrateful passoids
As a cishet man I would have sex with her.
Why don't you people put in the same amount of effort she did?
read the thread you bimbo some of us do
But not confident enough to post selfies
SAD!
lmfaoooo
Lol the real tranner life hack those giant glasses. Sometimes wish I was a glasses tranner because of this.
Just buy fakes. I looked into it once and they seem to be a lot cheaper as well so you don't lose much by trying it out
Zoom in and you see chud face. I mog him and don't need make up. Seethe hons.
dw, there's someone in that thread with 50 likes saying that she passes with 0 HRT at 6'1, broad shoulders, and a chad jaw because of her makeup and mannerisms.
it's true, eyeliner was just an example
properly applied classic eyeliner (no wings) with a filled in lower eye waterline does wonders to your eyes.
I mean, it won't turn a hon into a passer of course, but if you look OK there's no reason not to learn to apply eyeliner
waterline only if it's bright (white or nude). dark on the waterline tends to make eyes look smaller, which most trans women won't benefit from.
not my style? i just do no-makeup-makeup + sometimes mascara and its fine. if i wore heavy makeup it would contrast too much with my general vibe and probably make me stick out more if anything
>no makeup makeup
what do you do for that personally?
color corrector + foundation + brows (mine are pretty sparse naturally so i just brush them & pencil in the shape)
and sometimes mascara like i said, which is the easiest thing ever and can really go a long way
thanks.
I tried no-makeup makeup by using a CC cream+concealer (i'm super pale and look like a heroin addict without concealer under my eyes) + mascara and it didn't really look good on me, so I started doing eyeliner, blush and nude-ish lipstick in addition to that and at that point it's just regular makeup. I don't really do eyebrows because I have dark hair and pale skin so properly tweezed eyebrows are enough for me
i've tried but idk how to practice, am i just supposed to wash it off and try again? its kinda very difficult to wash off
You're supposed to use a makeup remover...
but i dont have that... makeup wipes are expensive 🙁
I do
>t. girlmoder
i’m sure it will look super good looking like a man with eyeliner <3
have you considered i would have a bad transition WITH effort and eyeliner?
I'm blind in one eye so I have a terrible time getting it to match.
it’s cool how if you look like a man on hrt people have no empathy until you put on the most overtly feminine things possible and look like a monster, then they just say passing doesn’t matter
Like wow, thanks. I’m really happy now that I look like a freak and absolutely nothing like a woman. Thank god I’m super valid because I tried even though the results were very obviously going to be bad
“don’t transition if you can’t pass” is more helpful than this. it at least stands for something. it at least says “hey you might not be happy if normalcy is unachievable”. what does this stand for other than assuming every one with gender dysphoria is content being a freak and not at all fixing the disease? It’s better advice to say literally nothing. This stuff only helps those who pass anyways or could pass anyways (aka people who probably don’t need the eyeliner)
i'm at a weird halfway point between "don't trans if you can't pass" and "passing doesn't matter". i know i'll never pass but i'm tired of feeling like a caveman and if e + lrh can feminize me a bit and prevent me from aging as a man anymore then i'll be happy just being an effeminate homosexual guy.
Advice clearly wasn't meant for you, hun. It's for the teenager 'boymoder' "uwaaaaaaa I only started at 18 it'soveritsover kms kms" crew
well i still have to read this shit so kindly i’d ask that instead they just call me a man and tell me to kms, and say they’re talking to the ones who can pass instead
i despise the trans community. i’d be happy to not be one of you
becasue i cant get HRT so better to reppress and never indulge
I need to find a makeup remover that doesn't give me an allergic reaction so I can practice
Micellar water dummy
what you can also do is getting into the habit of putting on makeup right before you shower. going through multiple iterations back to back is terrible for your skin, anyway, and regular practice will beat out the occasional sprint.
i have bad eczema that flares up and swells my eyes shut if i mess around too much :<
earlier in my transition i did try eyeliner for a bit but idk i have an angular face and eyeliner emphasized that for me in a weird way
this, however, is very neat advice ... maybe i'll try a light mascara or something, thank u for this anon
I had this issue a lot of make up removers eventually started to bother my eye lids. Look up the make up eraser it's this soft reusable cloth thing that works really well for removing makeup. It's all I use now in addition to washing my face obvs
makeup cant fix how ugly i am, will it make me apear shorter and less bulky ? no ? then why the fuck would i ever use it
If I don't look like a woman when I'm not dolling myself up, then it's better to just manmode forever
amen to that
im taking it a step further with repression and suicide
I look like a weird androgynous freak without make up.
But thats because of my bad skin
>tried putting on makeup once
>had a meltdown and cried because of how awful I looked in it
My hairline is receding. I am going to kill myself.
The only reason I need make-up is to be a bit prettier. Don't really use eyeliner tho.
a shit face is still shit even with makeup
okay so how the fuck do you make a pencil not tug on your skin? everyone says that felt tips aren't good for starting out but they're the only ones i can apply somewhat neatly
pull the skin on both sides until itz taut
I learned using those pens that look like thin markers and ended up OK
The Kat con d eyeliner is good and I can personally recommend it, you can buy it in sephora
Because it looks like shit on anyone
if you dont pass without makeup and your hair in a ponytail and have nobody question you're trans in a liberal area surrounded by trans people after you have already spoken aloud then you dont pass. sorry.
if you malefail literally once ever you're a passoid and should get off this board, not sorry.
😐
please go outside and touch grass
oh my bad this is clesrly a joke. i thought i was in mmg
If I wear makeup I just look like a sissy crossdresser with an humilation fetish
Early into my transition I had to use makeup to hide beard shadow, so I often also did subtle eye makeup, eyeliner, mascara etc. but now that I'm far enough into laser that I don't need base layer makeup, I usually don't bother with more than tinted eyebrow gel, curling my eyelashes, and putting on some mascara, if I bother to wear any makeup at all.
Daring to suggest that putting in effort will help your transition (she didn't even claim it will make you pass) brings out the best crab in bucket seething from all the terminally online trannies.
it’s stupid to act like looking like a freak will make most trans women who are dysphoric happier
It's true lol. btw this also goes for everything else like social skills too, not just makeup
Fuck this lmao it's me from a couple years ago
Ah yes because effort will fix my lack of any breast growth, narrow body, and receding hairline. I'm not even a doomer, saving up for surgeries to fix myself, but this stuff is so fucking infuriating. Some of us aren't well off from transition and isn't our fault, stop blaming us because we didn't put in "effort".
Wish I had the guts to enter a makeup store and try makeup in person
Just go to like target or something and use the self check out. It's really not that bad even with a cashier they really don't get paid enough to care what you buy. Whether it was makeup as a boy moder or razorblades cough syrup and bandages.
Because I pass without it NGL. So for things like work where I'm in full apathy mode it's not really worth it. I wear it to school tho to look as cute as my gollum moder face can get. Literally my only good facial feature is my eyes and brow. So it helps distract from my dead fish face. TFW when went anorexic one summer in highschool due to dysphoria and immediately gain perma ghoul face
nah shes right
Did it work?
hard to say without the before but are you by chance looking for a husband?
>b4
ok
>looking for husband
no
Yeap I know. 1 year HRT no effort otherwise (besides shaving face, best as I can)
Honestly I'm comfortable just boymoding forever. Maybe someday I'll be in a good enough situation I can start working on those things. It's enough for me to just know that my body isn't further masculinizing.
they are 100% correct, eyeliner is literally just an example
there are people on this board who just take HRT for 4 years and do nothing else to advance their transition and then start crying about how transitioning is a scam, they're just unlucky, etc. etc.
like no, learning skincare, makeup, how to dress yourself properly, getting laser, how to style your hair, etc. are all very important. mtf HRT is not actually that powerful unless you start at like 14 and 99% of people are going to need to put in actual effort
Why bother? If you aren't already blessed with good genetics you literally will never pass. At best you'll be humored by SOME cis people in public, trying to be polite.
I mean I think most people have a decent shot at passing depending what age they start, and even more so if you factor in stuff like FFS
but you need to differentiate passing from being a youngshit
It's not fair that GRS is covered by insurance generally while FFS isn't. The one that would actually significantly improve passing, while the other is something (ideally) only your partner and yourself would ever see
yeah, I wonder if it's because SRS used to be required for ID changes and stuff so if it wasn't covered then a lot of people would never be able to have correct IDs. and also FFS is mostly just a bundle of cosmetic surgery procedures rather than a specific targeted surgery so idk maybe that's a factor too
insurance covered my ffs
filed
they denied
argued
i won
to the people that lose their ffs insurance cases: guess you're not trans enough considering you can't articulate it well enough to win a legal battle.
you do all this yet you still look like bogged shit ?
i only wear a little foundation because thats all i need
>apply eyeliner
>suddenly my ribcage contracts, my shoulders become less broad, my hips expand, and I look like I've had three rounds of FFS
wow thanks hon, I just needed to effortmode!
I like to post "just try harder babe" to some hons on here and twitter because they are so insufferable sometimes. They see some tranny that passes and cry to them like they can do anything.