Why doesn't the biggest country in the world just shut down its borders, end all export or import and then develop its own industries in complete...

Why doesn't the biggest country in the world just shut down its borders, end all export or import and then develop its own industries in complete isolation?

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  1. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    All the people with skills left.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      No, they didn't.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Sure, they still have electricians and plumbers, but there was a massive "brain drain" in the 90s and another one has just been triggered. An expert in immunology is going to get paid more by Astra Zeneca in Sweden than some corrupt "hospital" in Vatnikgrad.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Not "all the people", but enough to make any hopes of developing its own industry impossible. Despite the fact that sanctions seem absolutely laughable right now, I am sure that Russia is fricked long-term. Combined with rampant corruption, general societal decay and despotic government, it's literally impossible for them to advance as they are.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, right. When adjusted for purchasing power parity, Russia has the sixth-largest GDP behind Germany. Sectors matter more than size, however. In 2021, Russia’s economy was composed of the following sectors: services 53%, agriculture 3.8%, industry 33%, and manufacturing 14%—the total exceeds 100% because there is some overlap.

          Industry comprises notably less of the French 16.8%, American 18.5%, and German 26.6 % economies. Russia surprisingly exceeds even Germany in this metric. The winner of this bracket is China, at 39.5%.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >poor people points

  2. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Would you be surprised if I told you they tried that not so long ago?

  3. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because.. that would cut it off from the global economy and cause it to financially implode? I swear half the people who use this board are 14 years old or something.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      That would require an educated populous, a powerful bureaucracy, a motivated population, low corruption, a lot of personal and social freedom etc. All shit Russia doesn't have or want.

      How would it cause it to financially implode? Russia has enough reserves to pay off all foreign creditors and close itself off.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Russia does not have all of the raw materials necessary to support a modern state entirely within its borders. It will have to trade.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >How would it cause it to financially implode?
        If you just spent 30+ years trying to embed your country into the globalist paradigm, you can't just decouple.
        It means you chose not to develop certain resources and production facilities because it was easier to just import the fruits of those things. It means you chose not to train your population to fulfill every possible economic need because it was easier to outsource many of those roles. Globalism is about being able to NOT fully develop your nation or have it be self sustaining, yet still have money coming in. The lure of globalism is that it saves tons of time and investment so that the powers that be can use their money to focus on the most profitable enterprises.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Don't forget sobriety. They would need a sober population instead of one addled by a long-term cultural propensity for extreme alcoholism.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        If it was so bad in the Soviet Union, then why does the majority of Russia want to go back ?

        Bruh if you look at things like lifespan, suicide rate, and violent crime rate, which still haven't recovered to pre-1990s levels, it's easy to see that life in most post-soviet states became much shittier after 1991. Only the small balt countries are doing much better now than before, everyone else is still reeling. Non-soviet Warsaw Pact countries are a mixed bag, some are doing better, others are doing worse.

        > develop its own industries
        It is easier to be in power by pursuing low-profit industries such as oil than it is to pursue something complex that will jeopardise your position.

        I hate that schools don't teach basic economic concepts like economies of scale, marginal productivity, how division of labor is constrained by the extent of the market, etc. All these idiots wouldn't be so ignorant if schools didn't fail them so bad.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >nooooooo you have to only exist in the israeli financial system!!
      >you can't just can't create your own system or society that ignores fiat currency!!!11

      the absolute state of your brainwashed mind. have a nice day

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >He thinks that because he hates israelites it's ok to do utterly moronic shit that destroys every incentive for people to be productive

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        selling oil to foreigners is most of their economy and they can't produce most of the things they import

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        >DAJOOOOOOOZ

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        moron

  4. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Been there, done that.

  5. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because without exposure they won't know what the rest of the world is doing and their technology will fall behind. Then they'll get genocided suddenly like with native Americans who got racemixed and hit with biological weapons

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >biological weapons
      turd world fingers typed this post

  6. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    because they live on the same planet as the greediest and most psychotically violent neocolonialist power in human history

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      China?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Mongolia

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Finland

  7. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Because that's really fricking hard to do before you even start talking about availability of resources. They import $10 billion of iron and steel every year and it's not because they're too lazy to dig it out of their own ground. They import $5 billion of fruit every year, do you think they could just start growing it themselves instead? $14 in pharmaceuticals every year, do you think their populace is gonna trust a bunch of biotech startups looking to homebrew knockoff medication to compensate for Putin isolating them from the rest of the world?

    Their biggest import is machinery including computers, and right now we're in the middle of experiencing the US (the country that invented the fricking computer) having trouble developing their own chip manufacturers. As much as I love the idea of every major country just shutting it's fricking doors, calming down and focusing on themselves, it's just not feasible in a modern economy.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      >$14 in pharmaceuticals
      $14 billion* in pharmaceuticals

  8. 1 year ago
    Anonymous
  9. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    How do I explain to my patriotic bosses that our great country simply cannot manufacture large format printers, and therefore, since stocks of this product have run out, I cannot place an order for one, without which our organization suffers losses?

  10. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Have you heard if the Iron curtain you idiot? The Soviet union is literally your propose and it worked very very badly.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If it was so bad in the Soviet Union, then why does the majority of Russia want to go back ?

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because they were feared by the world and got to lord it over Uzbeks and Ukrainians and that is really all they care about.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          The USSR still traded with the rest of the world. Even with America. Lmao

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because they were young and virile. So they associate their youth with le glorious USSR. I won't deny that the collapse caused many issues for Russia, but this is just rose tinted glasses.

        I miss the 2000s but only because I lived through them as a child. Had I been an older man with decades behind me I would have understood that it was a shit decade as well. Then I'd be nostalgic over the 70s or some shit despite it being a horrible time as well.

        tldr; nostalgia

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Bruh if you look at things like lifespan, suicide rate, and violent crime rate, which still haven't recovered to pre-1990s levels, it's easy to see that life in most post-soviet states became much shittier after 1991. Only the small balt countries are doing much better now than before, everyone else is still reeling. Non-soviet Warsaw Pact countries are a mixed bag, some are doing better, others are doing worse.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            That seems false.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            what happened in 1997?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            1998 Russian financial crisis also called the ruble crisis or the Russian flu. It, along with the 1997 Asian financial crisis, almost brough dwon the rest of the world's financial world with it.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >ok so it did fricking triple in the 1990s but it's back down now
            dam you BTFO me.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Because being a shitty empire is still preferable (for the people of the empire's heartland, if not the outlying regions. Obviously.) than being a second-rate power.

  11. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    It's bad land the poor frickers never had a chance

  12. 1 year ago
    Chris Metzen

    >just shut down 17m sq km border
    I know people here are moronic but this is on a another level of moronication.

  13. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    > develop its own industries
    It is easier to be in power by pursuing low-profit industries such as oil than it is to pursue something complex that will jeopardise your position.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      This. In terms of value, information-based industries are more lucrative by several times. Raw materials only get you so far.

  14. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    why op is a homosexual?
    why do the homosexual ask such stupid questions?

  15. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Russia never recovered fully from communism. That shit is a plague.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      Russia was a shithole before, during, and after communism. Russia is a shit hole.

      • 1 year ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah it was shithole but before communist takeover they actually had a chance to become a decent country. Communists literally butchered the people with their centuries-long history and completely warped their values.
        There are plenty of countries that used to be shitholes but were able to advance and become decent.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          >before communist takeover they actually had a chance to become a decent country.
          Lol
          Lmfao

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Any reasons why you think they CERTAINLY couldn't?

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Most were basically fricking serfs. The tsar was an incompetent moron. People hated the government for throwing them into a meat grinder in Japan and lost despite the gap in technology.
            The country was an agrarian backwards shithole even by 19th century standards. Even the Whites, who were the last stand against the Bolsheviks, were terribly corrupt and often fought eachother more often than they engaged the commies.

            It was a shithole before, during, and after le hammer and sickle.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            >Most were basically fricking serfs. The tsar was an incompetent moron. People hated the government for throwing them into a meat grinder in Japan and lost despite the gap in technology.
            >The country was an agrarian backwards shithole even by 19th century standards. Even the Whites, who were the last stand against the Bolsheviks, were terribly corrupt and often fought eachother more often than they engaged the commies.
            I agree with every single word here but that still doesn't mean it was impossible for them to advance and improve under a proper government. Basically, if the October revolution (fully funded by g*rmans) didn't happen.

        • 1 year ago
          Anonymous

          Normal country is just a buzzword for "American vassal".

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Normal country is just an expression for countries where people don't live in places like this with no way to get out.

          • 1 year ago
            Anonymous

            Nothing wrong with that. You don't have to start castrating your children even if you become "american vassal", see Poland. And America's tends to have a really good influence on the quality of life if you throw out lgbt shit. And quality of life of common people is all that matters.

  16. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    You mean like they did before 1990? Yeah that worked great...

  17. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    they havent been developing anything since 1995, they completely depend on crude oil and gass exports
    its a good question tho, why dont they just develop

  18. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    Most of that land is essentially worthless. Too cold, can't grow anything, etc.

    Russia is big in the same way Antarctica is big. It's not so much about how much land you have as the quality of that land. That's why India has a billion more people than Russia despite being a fifth of its size

  19. 1 year ago
    Anonymous

    When was the last time an autarkist state even existed? Even North Korea engages in international trade.

    • 1 year ago
      Anonymous

      If by choice, probably Korea before the west and Japan forced it open. (or Japan if Korea doesn't count because of the Chinese tribute thing, and if the once-a-year trade with the Dutch rules it out then true autarky has probably never been tried)
      But international sanctions regimes can force autarky on countries that don't want it. South Africa had basically no trade partners at the end and that played a big role in them giving up apartheid, that was probably the last case of isolation worse than contemporary NK.

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