Why does Texas choose to portray itself as a western state despite being obviously southern?

Why does Texas choose to portray itself as a western state despite being obviously southern?

Beware Cat Shirt $21.68

Rise, Grind, Banana Find Shirt $21.68

Beware Cat Shirt $21.68

  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's both

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It's neither. I thought the whole crux of Texan heritage was that they "chose" to join the US and kept themselves mostly to themselves culturally since then.

      Actually, question: Did Texas fight during the Civil War? If so, in which side?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but that’s bullshit. The republic lasted for like 10 years and they fought for the confederacy.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >kept themselves mostly to themselves culturally since then.
        All the US states are basically identical in culture

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          What does New Mexico has to do with Maine? Or Florida with Montana? fricking imbecile.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >amerishart cultural differences
            >uhhh that other state says soda instead of pop and they have Hardees instead of Carl's junior it's basically a different country haha

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            compared to Europe where the only difference is what language they ask you your mccucks order in

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            t. never been to Europe

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Common culture, beliefs, values and identity maybe. Americans regardless of state act basically the exact same. Accent and how you refer to some things does not make it foreign.

            >Same language with very minimal dialectal variation (even in England, villages 20 miles from each other will have radically different accents, in Germany they straight up can't understand each other)
            >All celebrate the same key holidays in similar fashion: Thanksgiving, Independence day, Christmas, Halloween, Labor Day, Veteran's Day, etc.
            >Same culture regarding educational upbringing and rituals for passage into adulthood
            He's right. Political divides in the US aren't even state based anymore, it's just rural vs urban people. An urban college kid born and raised in Montana will share more in common with a Bostonian or New Yorker than they do with their rural neighbor.

            Cope, eurofricks

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not European you mongoloid, I am American.
            You will realize how similar we all are once you leave the USA. It doesn't matter what state you're from, the foreigners will call you Yank and treat you the same way. They'll ignore any rant you make about state differences.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            You act the same, you have mildly different accents at best.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not my fault foreigners are all a bunch of ignorant homosexuals. Just because they don't know about our differences that doesn't mean they don't exist.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            List the meaningful differences between Montana and Tennessee or Colorado and Michigan or whatever. Most of it boils down to geography/weather, regional restaurant chains and tax laws.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Just like Europe countries right?

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Common culture, beliefs, values and identity maybe. Americans regardless of state act basically the exact same. Accent and how you refer to some things does not make it foreign.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Same language with very minimal dialectal variation (even in England, villages 20 miles from each other will have radically different accents, in Germany they straight up can't understand each other)
            >All celebrate the same key holidays in similar fashion: Thanksgiving, Independence day, Christmas, Halloween, Labor Day, Veteran's Day, etc.
            >Same culture regarding educational upbringing and rituals for passage into adulthood
            He's right. Political divides in the US aren't even state based anymore, it's just rural vs urban people. An urban college kid born and raised in Montana will share more in common with a Bostonian or New Yorker than they do with their rural neighbor.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I still think there’s some regional differences. The southern accent still exists in southern cities even though it’s declining in frequency. Rural southerners are also more religious than rural Midwesterners.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Yuro homosexual fingers typed that

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        The United States as a whole used to be defined by strong regional identities and cultures, and Texas was no exception, but those have almost entirely died out in the last 50 years. Texas, in particular, has been getting colonized hard by immigrants and transplants.
        >Actually, question: Did Texas fight during the Civil War? If so, in which side?
        It was one of the first states that seceded and formed the Confederacy, and Texan units served in the Confederate Army as far away as Virginia.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          This only applies to Urban America. Regional identity is still very strong amongst rural people.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >steal a chunk of mexico
          >omg there are mexicans here???

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There were barely any back then

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >get begged to immigrate as a hedge against Apache raiding
            >declare independence with half a dozen states after the Seven Laws were passed
            >actually win their war for independence
            Tell me more about how it was stolen

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Only 60 thousand Mexicans lived in the entirety of the territory annexed in the war.
            That means that the whole area encompassing California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, Colorado, Utah, etc. Literally had less people in it than a single neighborhood of a medium sized city
            This whole "omg 10+ million Hispanics were always there" shit is a myth. It's like saying a lot of Russians must live in Tuvan land just because it's part of Russia

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            There were literally 6000 people living in Arizona in 1860 almost all of them Indians today hispanics act like they've always been there

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            at the time of the republic for every 1 mexican in texas there was 6 americans

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            or russians trying to make claim of Alaska because they had one hut village with like 50 people living there.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Costa Rica is Mexican land
            Go into a "mexican" town and start telling them how You want Mexico to have the same borders it did in 1841.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >Texas, in particular, has been getting colonized hard by immigrants and transplants.

          Tejano are the few people here who still embody traditional Antebellum culture and can actually trace their roots back more than one or two generations. A lot of white Texans are homosexual west coasters gentrifying Texas's major cities with their Liberal cosmopolitan bullshit.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            My family go back in Texas several generations and I think it has historically (20th century) been a more cosmopolitan place than other Southern states. It's conservative in its way too but in a fashion that emphasizes Order so the cops feel like they will BTFO everyone equally to me. At least the State Police will and they don't give a hot frick about anyone's Boogaloo bullshit.

            That's what some people don't understand. The "traditional" culture of modern Texas was cultivated by cosmopolitan businessmen who wanted to impress and dazzle people from other developed, modernizing cities. That's one reason why we have the Dallas Museum of Art and the Fort Worth Symphony. Okay maybe this is just Dallas speaking here.

            Desegregation happened relatively "quietly" in Texas too because the big business types didn't want to upset the Order and they enlisted black ministers on their side to keep their people in line so things would work itself out in an Orderly way. I went to South Carolina and that was fricked. That felt like Apartheid. I talked to one black dude who was like "I gotta get outta here" and he wanted to move to Texas. A lot of people are moving here from Chicago or wherever and I talk to them, and they're surprised that it's fairly chill on the level of actual everyday life.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        That's nonsense the Texans invented recently. Historically Texas broke off from Mexico with the explicit intention of joining the USA. The only obstacle was that the US was having internal drama over adding another slave state.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Arkansas, Oklahoma, Texas, and everything in Louisiana more than ~25 miles west of the Mississippi River were all part of the southern frontier. They’re southerners by heritage, but their families decided to settle westward instead of becoming sharecropping serfs in the east.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >southerners in heritage
      Do you idiots seriously think it's the 1850s? Texaa is majority non white

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        You’re a moron.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        When Texas becomes poor (again) the nonWhites will just vacate the cities.
        All the Whites live in rural counties on ranches and in small agri-towns.
        Hispanics gather in urban areas and go to agri-towns to work but they dont live there.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Texas is part of the Texas region of the US, which also includes New Mexico and all the other states that used to be part of the Republic of Texas (1836-1845)

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Texas is spiritual Judah, the southern Israel. Just as America is spiritual Israel. The birth canal of the Mediterranean Sea is like a vegana/womb that goes all the way to America.
    Which is what people think it means when Revelation says Heaven’s Kingdom will come down from above, spiritually upon Israel. Hence, the good woman flees west into the “wilderness” = America , with the eagles. Clothed with the sun, the moon is at her feet showing dominance and understanding of both, the dragon waiting to devour her child and the sun passes through her womb, not the moon. So God withholds the moon children from having children until they bear fruit of the sun. For every 4chinnzer here, that’s very likely all of you.

    Texas postures itself like God’s Lion, spiritually like David. So does Satan, like Saul. Like how Biden wants to sign into all a bunch of junk that says Republicans/Trump can’t do anything until he’s already out of office if he wins next Presidency.

    Every State in America can inherit the same spirit as Texas. You just have to ask God for it. After all, that spirit is the spirit of God’s Light through Jesus Christ to get to heaven’s kingdom. Whoever or whatever is turning off your lights and diverting you from owning a good home is just your ticket to get started fixing things around the house. Change a lightbulb. Fix a leaky faucet. Capture wild animals in your attic. Fix a broken Sprinkler. Look up for the kingdom of Heaven is nigh. But also look out, because Satan’s kingdom of deception is also trying to trick you into buying cheap junk that breaks as soon as you buy it, like a used tesla that buying a new battery that breaks as soon as you bought it costs more than the actual car. I bought an office chair and the plastic covering came completely off in a year. Guess what? I never even sat in it.

    Admiral Nimitz that defeated Japan was born in Texas. Some of the most wealthy Americans are from West Texas. Jesus saves.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >America is spiritual Israel
      Indeed and both deserve getting nuked

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Go away glowie commie troll.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          have a nice day americretin golem shitskin moron

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >have a nice day americretin golem shitskin moron

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Trump lost.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Here’s an interesting article I read on this. It basically argues that Texas distancing itself from the south in the 20th century was a PR campaign by Texas business elites to attract more people to the state.
    https://www.texasmonthly.com/the-daily-post/is-texas-southern-western-or-truly-a-lone-star/amp/

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah this is a good article.

      It was a deliberate project in the early 20th century to create distance from the rest of the South and cultivate a distinct Texan identity and it began with Gov. Oscar Colquitt in the 1910s and matured in the 1930s -- with the 1936 centennial being the coming out party for the New Texas that was this weird art deco fusion. It's really bizarre but kinda interesting.

      The main thing was a shift in the main driver of the economy from cotton to oil (by 1930) and the development of a modern urban bourgeoisie in Dallas and Houston with investments in oil and finance and they wanted to attract investment capital from the north. The idea was to make Texas distinct and modern and "good for business" so you have Western stuff -- borrowed in part from Wild West silent films of era -- but also modern skyscrapers and so on like Walker: Texas Ranger with the Dallas skyline in the background.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >And in 1936, that message was essentially, “Welcome To Texas, We Are Not the South,” all at the behest of a purpose-built state entity called the Centennial Board of Control. Its mission: to secede Texas from the lingering remnants of the Confederacy. (Note the absence of the Confederate flag in the poster above.)

      >In Cummins’s essay “History, Memory and Rebranding Texas for the 1936 Centennial,” he writes that they were to seize “the opportunity to highlight Texas progress to the rest of the nation and thus advance the state’s commercial prospects,” via showcasing Texas as Western and not Southern.

      >Cummins points out that the Art Deco architecture at Dallas’s Fair Park (built for the Centennial) was an intentional distancing from Dixie modes, one that sent the message that Texas was keeping up with the times and not harking back to the past of Greco-Roman columns and such. The Tom Lea murals and a thicket of cowboy statuary played up the Western theme, and the likenesses of the heroes of the Texas Revolution like Houston, Fannin, and Austin were presented in frontier attire, rather than the frilly suits the men actually wore. The event’s logo featured, in Cummins’s words, “ten-gallon hats, six-shooters, high-heeled boots, Texas Rangers, bluebonnets, and sex,” the last nodding to the cowgirls and Rangerettes on parade.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >And it worked. Journalists returned to New York and Chicago and filed copy about their trip out West. At the same time, Texans came to view themselves more Western than Southern. Or a mixture of both. Or neither.

        >After all, Texas is just different. It always has been. There’s a certain unity to Southern culture stretching from Virginia all the way to the Mississippi River. Most of Dixie is African American and English and Scots-Irish, whereas Texas always had significant number of Tejanos and Mexican Americans, Cajuns and Creoles, and Germans and Slavs. Texas is the only former Confederate state with an international frontier, and the only one with mythic western landscapes and mountainous deserts. Chili, Tex-Mex, and chicken-frieds: the Carolinas do none of these well. Of the former Confederate states, only Louisiana stands as much varied from the rest, and thanks to its border with Texas, it has long contributed to Texas’s straying from the cultural norms of, say, Tennessee and Arkansas.

        >But for most Texans, reveling in cowboy culture as a birthright or ancestral heritage is a fiction. Dallas was never a city of Mavericks, Mustangs, or Cowboys, and though ever a violent city, Houston nodded to reality when it changed the name of its baseball team from the Colt .45s to the Astros. (When Major League Soccer came to town, “Houston 1836” was shot down as the team name due to protests that honoring the Texas Revolution was insensitive to Hispanics.)

        >Houston’s gargantuan rodeo celebration is perhaps even more out of sync with its history as it is with its present and future, considering it’s now a cosmopolitan metropolis in which more than ninety languages are spoken.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because we are both? What other Southern state has half the population being Mexican?

  7. 2 years ago
    Dirk

    It's called the southwest

    East Texas is culturally as old south as Alabama, while west Texas is as western as New Mexico and Colorado. Hill country and north Texas are a great blend of them.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Frick off Dirk

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    We aren’t either west or south. We’re our own thing Black person.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Oklahoma and North Texas are sort of a mix of midwest and the south

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Texas literally has this culture. Their culture is of cowboys, rodeos, and the old West.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Reminder that Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Kentucky, Virginia, North Carolina, Maryland and everything in Florida except the panhandle are not the South.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Kentucky, Virginia, North Carolina
      The South

      >everything in Florida except the panhandle

      Agree. More like tropical land

      >Texas, Oklahoma

      Southwest or old West. Land of the cowboys.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Mural for the '36 centennial

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous
  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Also for an older generation here, the most prominent cultural export was the T.V. show Dallas, which people from all over the world watched (for some reason) and places where the show was filmed became tourist attractions for Romanians, which is weird to me. It's funny because the intro is almost like a Soviet propaganda film showing off the PRODUCTIVE FORCES

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Texas seems like a comfy place.

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *