not him but what counts as non web shit?
servo engine that parses stuff = web shit? and firefox
is https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk webshit?
certainly this isn't
https://veloren.net/
2 years ago
Anonymous
Servo is arguably the closest to non webshit. And Mozilla completely abandoned it.
Rustdesk is definitely webshit, the whole UI is HTML based.
2 years ago
Anonymous
no, that game is non-arguably not "web shit"
2 years ago
Anonymous
I didn't even look at your random game.
Major real-world shit, not some autistic Minecraft clone no one plays.
https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty
A fricking terminal emulator no one uses, seriously?
I wouldn't even consider urxvt a major project but at least some people are using that one.
I can name bigger projects written in fricking Haskell.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yes because Haskell is a fairly popular choice for webshit
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah webshits loves meme languages.
"maybe if I deliver my boat load of javascript with this new language, the javascript won't make me want to kill myself as much"
2 years ago
Anonymous
>webshits can understand haskell but you can't
why would you even admit this
embarrassing
2 years ago
Anonymous
Sorry, it's just to 2deep4me like Donnie Darko and the layers of JavaScript used to render a paragraph of text.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The replacement for front-end JS is elm though
2 years ago
Anonymous
You mean Blazor + WASM
2 years ago
Anonymous
No, it's fugglr with Cone and Pappy.
Get with the times, grandpa.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You mean Blazor + WASM
Wrong AND Wrong. The replacement for front-end JS doesn't exist. Unless you want to call TS a replacement.
2 years ago
Anonymous
blazor is da futur
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's neither da futoor nor was it da past. It's dat shit dat no wann is gunna uze cuz its shieeeet
2 years ago
Anonymous
they said that about .net bc when it came out node was faster but then .net got faster
2 years ago
Anonymous
How about just using less JS?
2 years ago
Anonymous
it isn't similar play to minecraft at all
also has tons of devs
2 years ago
Anonymous
Yeah, more devs than actual users. It's Rust after all. A solution looking for a problem.
2 years ago
Anonymous
servo is part of the linux foundation now and they are putting servo code into firefox itself, slowly
I would use Go if it wasn't reliant on Google forever. I don't know that much about it, but I heard the compiler auto updates, sends telemetry, etc.
Anybody else worried about buying into the google ecosystem this hard to use Go as a source for everything? You know if Google gets bored of it tomorrow they'll just shut it down.
Go isn’t even a good webshit language lol
Haskell, known for its poor ecosystem, has better XMl processing libraries and better support for concurrency than Go does
because most here are larping degens that never wrote anything more than 200-300 loc fizzbuzz tier shit. Go is awesome, have C/Unix spirit in it that's why I like it
It's an idiot language, and it's not even as employable as other languages.
>if a language isn't unnecessarily complicated then it's shit
I bet you're the types of people who think all cars should be manual. what's with people hating on things that make their lives easier?
There's what useful for the general public and what's useful for corporations, corporations don't mind shipping Android inside Windows inside Linix inside Chomium just as a text editor if it cuts the costs a little.
I would use Go if it wasn't reliant on Google forever. I don't know that much about it, but I heard the compiler auto updates, sends telemetry, etc.
Anybody else worried about buying into the google ecosystem this hard to use Go as a source for everything? You know if Google gets bored of it tomorrow they'll just shut it down.
I have a job interview tomorrow for a position asking for a few years experience with go. I currently have 2 days experience with go. What are some things I should say or watch out for to make it sound like I didn't just lie on my resume?
I hate Go because introducing new languages is hard, the wider software ecosystem can only adopt so many new things in a given time frame and it takes a lot of effort to overcome inertia. Google managed to put in that effort but instead of getting something competently designed we got Go. Go feels like an early 1980s take on a "better C" because that's basically what it is: it was designed as a "better C" by people who haven't used anything invented after the 70s. It was designed by people who have lived under a rock for 40 years and made bizarre mistakes in their quest to reinvent a wheel everyone else has been using for 30 years, like combining dynamic arrays and spans into one type.
What's more is most problems with Go would have been easily fixed before 1.0.0 and it'd have been a truly great language. Go is even a step back from C/C++ for concurrency because I can add thread safety annotations for clang to consume to prevent many concurrency bugs (also @GuardedBy in Java). Note that those clang improvements were driven by Google themselves, yet Go doesn't have anything except a forked version of tsan.
Use Go if it puts money on the table, but don't confuse a language being """employable""" for being good. All the positive arguments for Go apply to PHP; I won't think you're an idiot for getting paid to do PHP but I will think you're an idiot if you start trying to convince me PHP is well designed or a good language, and both PHP and Go have embarrassingly bad standard libraries. Javascript is also very "employable" and look at it.
that's their problem. just like they can't figure out how to actually use the fricking hardware they're given.
All programs should use 1/50th the memory they do, and they should use at least 10x the CPUs they use.
Browsers are insanely fricking pathetic, they know they're pathetic too which is why they split processes per tabs because that's all the tiny brained software gays can figure out.
> Typed language that can't even prevent nil reference errors > Every other language now: thing?.foo?.baz. Go: if if if > if err != nil { > want to await a network call and handle the errors? go frick yourself there aren't tasks/promises you get channels or some random library nobody uses.
It's kind of like PHP, easy to get started and understand but then you realise it's quite messy.
* No named/optional params (defining a new functions for function chaining is verbose)
* No default struct values that aren't just 0
* No thing?.foo?.baz
Hating things that others hate allows you to feel like you're part of a "team"
Questioning things is how we probe something new to see whether or not it is worth investing precious time into.
It's a webshit language. That's reason enough.
But at least it doesn't pretend to be anything else unlike other webshit languages like Rust.
>Rust
>webshit
kek, dumbfrick
Tell me a major real-world Rust project that's not web related.
Go.
not him but what counts as non web shit?
servo engine that parses stuff = web shit? and firefox
is https://github.com/rustdesk/rustdesk webshit?
certainly this isn't
https://veloren.net/
Servo is arguably the closest to non webshit. And Mozilla completely abandoned it.
Rustdesk is definitely webshit, the whole UI is HTML based.
no, that game is non-arguably not "web shit"
I didn't even look at your random game.
Major real-world shit, not some autistic Minecraft clone no one plays.
A fricking terminal emulator no one uses, seriously?
I wouldn't even consider urxvt a major project but at least some people are using that one.
I can name bigger projects written in fricking Haskell.
Yes because Haskell is a fairly popular choice for webshit
Yeah webshits loves meme languages.
"maybe if I deliver my boat load of javascript with this new language, the javascript won't make me want to kill myself as much"
>webshits can understand haskell but you can't
why would you even admit this
embarrassing
Sorry, it's just to 2deep4me like Donnie Darko and the layers of JavaScript used to render a paragraph of text.
The replacement for front-end JS is elm though
You mean Blazor + WASM
No, it's fugglr with Cone and Pappy.
Get with the times, grandpa.
Wrong AND Wrong. The replacement for front-end JS doesn't exist. Unless you want to call TS a replacement.
blazor is da futur
It's neither da futoor nor was it da past. It's dat shit dat no wann is gunna uze cuz its shieeeet
they said that about .net bc when it came out node was faster but then .net got faster
How about just using less JS?
it isn't similar play to minecraft at all
also has tons of devs
Yeah, more devs than actual users. It's Rust after all. A solution looking for a problem.
servo is part of the linux foundation now and they are putting servo code into firefox itself, slowly
it isn't reliant on google
https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty
Go isn’t even a good webshit language lol
Haskell, known for its poor ecosystem, has better XMl processing libraries and better support for concurrency than Go does
Not to mention that Go has no equivalent to Aeson or Servant
Linux
Optional Rust driver support that no one even wrote yet, hardly makes Linux a Rust project.
Try again.
because most here are larping degens that never wrote anything more than 200-300 loc fizzbuzz tier shit. Go is awesome, have C/Unix spirit in it that's why I like it
>UNIX le good
have a nice day moron.
Go back tourist
>usable tls
I'm sold
I don't mind the language itself but some syntax choices make me mad
It's a language designed for midwits, as said by one of the authors
Programming languages are tools, not vanity products to make insecure autists feel better about themselves.
>caring about money over self satisfaction
Pleb
Writing fizzbuzz in [insert language of the month] doesn't really do it for many more.
Why does a tool need to be primitive to be useful?
Primitive and simple are different things.
>if a language isn't unnecessarily complicated then it's shit
I bet you're the types of people who think all cars should be manual. what's with people hating on things that make their lives easier?
It's an idiot language, and it's not even as employable as other languages.
>see 50 threads about go and/or IQfy being unemployed
>feel overwhelming urge to make yet another thread
Such is the life of the average gotard, sad.
>see 50 threads about go and/or IQfy being unemployed
Show one other thread on the board right now about go
Java has Loom now. Go has been rendered useless.
Thank you for your efforts though.
Hi there JIDF shill
There's what useful for the general public and what's useful for corporations, corporations don't mind shipping Android inside Windows inside Linix inside Chomium just as a text editor if it cuts the costs a little.
I choose to dislike it's creator.
Pic unrelated
When the only thing keeping you here is yourself, the memes that make it harder to choose to leave are going to succeed.
These dumbfricks dropped POWER4 support.
GO IS THE BEST LANGUAGE
I think Go is pretty cool. it works well for manipulating and routing large amounts of realtime data at scale
I would use Go if it wasn't reliant on Google forever. I don't know that much about it, but I heard the compiler auto updates, sends telemetry, etc.
Anybody else worried about buying into the google ecosystem this hard to use Go as a source for everything? You know if Google gets bored of it tomorrow they'll just shut it down.
>I haven't heard much about it
>compiler sends telemetry and auto updates
lmao wat, neither are true. Nobody even claims that either, take your meds
I have a job interview tomorrow for a position asking for a few years experience with go. I currently have 2 days experience with go. What are some things I should say or watch out for to make it sound like I didn't just lie on my resume?
complain about gopath
because IQfy is full of moronic certgay it jannies
I hate Go because introducing new languages is hard, the wider software ecosystem can only adopt so many new things in a given time frame and it takes a lot of effort to overcome inertia. Google managed to put in that effort but instead of getting something competently designed we got Go. Go feels like an early 1980s take on a "better C" because that's basically what it is: it was designed as a "better C" by people who haven't used anything invented after the 70s. It was designed by people who have lived under a rock for 40 years and made bizarre mistakes in their quest to reinvent a wheel everyone else has been using for 30 years, like combining dynamic arrays and spans into one type.
What's more is most problems with Go would have been easily fixed before 1.0.0 and it'd have been a truly great language. Go is even a step back from C/C++ for concurrency because I can add thread safety annotations for clang to consume to prevent many concurrency bugs (also @GuardedBy in Java). Note that those clang improvements were driven by Google themselves, yet Go doesn't have anything except a forked version of tsan.
Use Go if it puts money on the table, but don't confuse a language being """employable""" for being good. All the positive arguments for Go apply to PHP; I won't think you're an idiot for getting paid to do PHP but I will think you're an idiot if you start trying to convince me PHP is well designed or a good language, and both PHP and Go have embarrassingly bad standard libraries. Javascript is also very "employable" and look at it.
that's their problem. just like they can't figure out how to actually use the fricking hardware they're given.
All programs should use 1/50th the memory they do, and they should use at least 10x the CPUs they use.
Browsers are insanely fricking pathetic, they know they're pathetic too which is why they split processes per tabs because that's all the tiny brained software gays can figure out.
> Typed language that can't even prevent nil reference errors
> Every other language now: thing?.foo?.baz. Go: if if if
> if err != nil {
> want to await a network call and handle the errors? go frick yourself there aren't tasks/promises you get channels or some random library nobody uses.
It's kind of like PHP, easy to get started and understand but then you realise it's quite messy.
My top three hangups about go:
* No named/optional params (defining a new functions for function chaining is verbose)
* No default struct values that aren't just 0
* No thing?.foo?.baz
Otherwise, I am a fan of go as a platform.