Classical music is way better than kneegrow lingo LARPing as real music. I don't care if DeBussy is a flying homo, I just prefer that music over kneegrow speak any day now.
Yeah this,Classical is prettymuch a dead medium. Same with Jazz and Prog. I like old Prog and Old Classical though,not as fond of Jazz. Do enjoy both Funk and Soul Music.
I was talking about the neoclassical style of composers like Stravinsky and Prokofiev, not classical music in general. Currently we have New Complexity, Post-minimalism and Neoromanticism.
Only 20 years. Most genres are dead and the ones that aren't haven't seen any development in as long.
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Ok fair enough,I feel like Classical stopped seeing any real innovation after the 1950s though.
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Well you're wrong. Electronics started to be used in the 60s and in the 70s we had spectralism but as far as anything aurally appreciable, we haven't had anything in half a century. But I don't really see why music needs to keep evolving anyway.
>old
Do you mean early music (medieval, renaissance, baroque)? >new neoclassical music
kek >new >neoclassical
Choose one. It's always some uninformed pseuds spouting the biggest bullshit.
I would argue that "romantic" music is the type we all know all too well.
The little snips we got in old animation to express the scene (and be perfectly legible to viewers at the time) are chosen because they are quite popular. This is the approximate Beethoven era.
>Starting with a Wagner opera
I've been listening to classical for a decade and even I haven't listened to any of his operas all the way through! They are too long and not enough happens.
i started there cause people said wagner is music for the cultured white man
where do you really start? i like some debussy, satie and ravel pieces, the most known ones.
Based Fauré enjoyer.
The nocturnes and barcarolles are so underrated. His harmonic language is so perfect to my ears, it's just the right amount of dissonance, sounds so melancholic and bittersweet. When you think he'll hit you with a sweet, innocent melody, it'll almost always take a slightly sour direction towards the end. And he combined all that with a French kind of restrained classical form. He's one a kind.
And yes, he taught Ravel.
>undeserved
I'll give you that some fans of classical music are insufferable midwits (although this is true for all genres of music), but undeserved? Nah, bro, I'm not having that. The best of classical music is the pinnacle of music. Nothing comes close.
Absolutely not. The simple folk traditions have mogged all else before, during, and after the classical heydey, and they will continue to mog until the end of time. This is objective truth.
>traditional music
Trying too hard. Alright, I'll bite. What makes folk traditions so much better than everything else? And which ones? Are they all equal? Is folk music from some rural shithole in Russia or Appalachia equal to Gamelan or African talking drums, or whatever? How could you possibly measure them? Are you seriously implying traditional music doesn't get put on an undeserved pedestal by insufferable ethnomusicologists and tryhards on rym?
Stop, it will only remind me that a giant portion of really great 2hu classical remixes vanished of the net. Those pewpew e-boicon beeps are more often better composed than they have any right to be.
I don't hate it, but I rarely listen to it because of the lack of beat. Even "dances" are not very danceable. It can't be blamed on the instruments, because folk musicians manage just fine with the same ones.
I don't. But classical music has a lot of medicore pet composers that for some reason seem highly regarded while being absolutely underwhelming/annoying. Or maybe that's just a side effect from being around so long that it alrdy peaked.
anyone who hates classical listens to music for the immediate pleasure of its sonority rather than its narrative and structure. they treat music like a drug. they do not deserve classical.
A huge orchestra sounds like a muddy mess. It only sounds good when you sample it as "orchestra hit" and use it as a percussive element, like on Owner of a Lonely Heart.
I'd like to strongly disagree, every instrument in an orchestra which sound was perfected over 100 of years for its purpose is more appealing than that. Not that the sawtooth isn't or can't, but I never saw grown men start pissing out of their eyes because a sawtooth kicked in....
I remember the first time I heard the acid sound, on Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness, and it had far stronger emotional impact than anything classical. Ultra-fast arpeggios like in European chiptunes are something similar. Both are impossible with traditional instruments.
>Huge orchestra Sounds like a muddy mess
Lel, since when? It's literally scientifically designed up to the room it plays in to be as clear as possible.
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There's too much reverb and too many instruments playing at once. It all blends together. You need multitracking and EQ so the instruments don't overlap too much. This objectively sounds better.
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This is what happens when autists get into music.
>nobody: >poltard: TRANNIES
I've never been on that board. Now what?
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no shit you already got called out bud
now you go back
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If you can't tell apart the different Instruments playing in a orchestra even when it 's at full force there is either something wrong with your ears, head or equipment. I suspect the third.
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You can tell which instruments are playing, but all the nuance of the performance is wasted because it's obscured by the messy production (solo parts in concertos excepted, because the rest of the orchestra usually shows some restraint then).
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Not that anon, but you do realize the orchestra doesn't play at the same time all the time? There's a thing called orchestration and it's a very delicate skill. What I
A huge orchestra sounds better than any computer generated fart noise.
meant here was that when a piece of music is orchestrated masterfully, there's nothing quite like it.
I'd like to strongly disagree, every instrument in an orchestra which sound was perfected over 100 of years for its purpose is more appealing than that. Not that the sawtooth isn't or can't, but I never saw grown men start pissing out of their eyes because a sawtooth kicked in....
>I never saw grown men start pissing out of their eyes because a sawtooth kicked in
kek I can imagine there a few people on here and trannies on rateyourmusic that have that reaction
couldnt be me
Literally listening to this rn
Because I'm not a white man, bitch.
Classical music is way better than kneegrow lingo LARPing as real music. I don't care if DeBussy is a flying homo, I just prefer that music over kneegrow speak any day now.
DeBussy was a kneegrow idoler. Wrote rag and other nigar music.
The only nagger here is you
well that was a shitty recording
old western classical is boring. new neoclassical music mogs it and is probably the best music in the world
Neoclassical is a century old dumbass. I haven't heard it being relevant since the 50s
Yeah this,Classical is prettymuch a dead medium. Same with Jazz and Prog. I like old Prog and Old Classical though,not as fond of Jazz. Do enjoy both Funk and Soul Music.
I was talking about the neoclassical style of composers like Stravinsky and Prokofiev, not classical music in general. Currently we have New Complexity, Post-minimalism and Neoromanticism.
Post Minimalism is old as fuck though. Definetely a dead medium.
Only 20 years. Most genres are dead and the ones that aren't haven't seen any development in as long.
Ok fair enough,I feel like Classical stopped seeing any real innovation after the 1950s though.
Well you're wrong. Electronics started to be used in the 60s and in the 70s we had spectralism but as far as anything aurally appreciable, we haven't had anything in half a century. But I don't really see why music needs to keep evolving anyway.
dying to know what you mean by "new neoclassical"
i'll answer your question with a question
the neo-psychedelia of the early 2010s is now antiquated. what would you propose we call it?
Not classical. Not neoclassical.
You're right. It's more evolved.
Neo-neoclassical.
>shitty background noise for video games
>evolved
kek
You can't post better classical music
>neoclassical
Got any recs?
shut down blackpink
what?
go to your local vinyl store and ask for it
fucking retard
I love it, it's the best.
>old
Do you mean early music (medieval, renaissance, baroque)?
>new neoclassical music
kek
>new
>neoclassical
Choose one. It's always some uninformed pseuds spouting the biggest bullshit.
it's boring
it's right in the name
>assical music
DAMN IT, KENNY
THIS IS SERIOUS
[whap]
I don't care
where do you even begin with classical
i tried listening to wagner's ring cycle and was so lost and shut it off
I would argue that "romantic" music is the type we all know all too well.
The little snips we got in old animation to express the scene (and be perfectly legible to viewers at the time) are chosen because they are quite popular. This is the approximate Beethoven era.
>Starting with a Wagner opera
I've been listening to classical for a decade and even I haven't listened to any of his operas all the way through! They are too long and not enough happens.
i started there cause people said wagner is music for the cultured white man
where do you really start? i like some debussy, satie and ravel pieces, the most known ones.
Okay then you've already started... just keep going. Next up Messiaen and Faure.
Faure is GOAT.
If you like Debussy and Ravel, he'll fit right in -- I think Faure taught... some, one of them (?)
Also Poulenc
Based Fauré enjoyer.
The nocturnes and barcarolles are so underrated. His harmonic language is so perfect to my ears, it's just the right amount of dissonance, sounds so melancholic and bittersweet. When you think he'll hit you with a sweet, innocent melody, it'll almost always take a slightly sour direction towards the end. And he combined all that with a French kind of restrained classical form. He's one a kind.
And yes, he taught Ravel.
Start with bach
Bach is exit-level. Starting with Bach is just a waste of time.
Bach is accessible, much moreso than late romantic music. Bach is the GOAT
Yeah he's accessible but you'll just have to go back and listen to it all over again when you learn to read a score or follow the counterpoint.
Where do you even begin with pop?
Where do you even begin with rock?
Where do you even begin with electronic?
"Classical" is even bigger and more vague than all of those, but it's the same answer for everything:
DEPENDS WHAT YOU LIKE
DEPENDS WHAT YOU WANT
So what DO you like, anon? Do you like music with vocals or instrumentals? Do you like it rough or soft? Do you like it fast or slow?
Because I'm a white supremacist and Mozart was black.
no gf
I don't hate classical, it's simply put on an undeserved pedestal by insufferable midwits
>undeserved
I'll give you that some fans of classical music are insufferable midwits (although this is true for all genres of music), but undeserved? Nah, bro, I'm not having that. The best of classical music is the pinnacle of music. Nothing comes close.
Absolutely not. The simple folk traditions have mogged all else before, during, and after the classical heydey, and they will continue to mog until the end of time. This is objective truth.
>traditional music
Trying too hard. Alright, I'll bite. What makes folk traditions so much better than everything else? And which ones? Are they all equal? Is folk music from some rural shithole in Russia or Appalachia equal to Gamelan or African talking drums, or whatever? How could you possibly measure them? Are you seriously implying traditional music doesn't get put on an undeserved pedestal by insufferable ethnomusicologists and tryhards on rym?
Touhou is the pinnacle of music.
You've just noticed that some Touhou is classical.
Could you not put this disgusting chink MIDI garbage in my ears? Thanks. By the by, not classical music.
Stop, it will only remind me that a giant portion of really great 2hu classical remixes vanished of the net. Those pewpew e-boicon beeps are more often better composed than they have any right to be.
I like the halo.soundtracks.
Also Beethovens Egmont Overture is a nice slice.
>I like the halo.soundtracks.
I don't hate it, but I rarely listen to it because of the lack of beat. Even "dances" are not very danceable. It can't be blamed on the instruments, because folk musicians manage just fine with the same ones.
is the apple classical music app any good as an intro
I don't. But classical music has a lot of medicore pet composers that for some reason seem highly regarded while being absolutely underwhelming/annoying. Or maybe that's just a side effect from being around so long that it alrdy peaked.
anyone who hates classical listens to music for the immediate pleasure of its sonority rather than its narrative and structure. they treat music like a drug. they do not deserve classical.
>Immediate pleasure of its sonority
Classical is THE genre that excels at that and it isn't a bad thing.....
There is not a single sound in classical that's as immediately appealing as a sawtooth through a swept resonant lowpass filter.
A huge orchestra sounds better than any computer generated fart noise.
A huge orchestra sounds like a muddy mess. It only sounds good when you sample it as "orchestra hit" and use it as a percussive element, like on Owner of a Lonely Heart.
I remember the first time I heard the acid sound, on Josh Wink - Higher State of Consciousness, and it had far stronger emotional impact than anything classical. Ultra-fast arpeggios like in European chiptunes are something similar. Both are impossible with traditional instruments.
This nigga cried to fart noises hahahahaha
>classical fan thinks depression is the only emotion
What does this even mean hahahah this nigga crying to farting noises and just saying random shit lmaooo
>Huge orchestra Sounds like a muddy mess
Lel, since when? It's literally scientifically designed up to the room it plays in to be as clear as possible.
There's too much reverb and too many instruments playing at once. It all blends together. You need multitracking and EQ so the instruments don't overlap too much. This objectively sounds better.
This is what happens when autists get into music.
I've never been on that board. Now what?
no shit you already got called out bud
now you go back
If you can't tell apart the different Instruments playing in a orchestra even when it 's at full force there is either something wrong with your ears, head or equipment. I suspect the third.
You can tell which instruments are playing, but all the nuance of the performance is wasted because it's obscured by the messy production (solo parts in concertos excepted, because the rest of the orchestra usually shows some restraint then).
Not that anon, but you do realize the orchestra doesn't play at the same time all the time? There's a thing called orchestration and it's a very delicate skill. What I
meant here was that when a piece of music is orchestrated masterfully, there's nothing quite like it.
I can see your brain is fried from electronic music, so there's no point in arguing. Let's agree to disagree.
I'd like to strongly disagree, every instrument in an orchestra which sound was perfected over 100 of years for its purpose is more appealing than that. Not that the sawtooth isn't or can't, but I never saw grown men start pissing out of their eyes because a sawtooth kicked in....
>I never saw grown men start pissing out of their eyes because a sawtooth kicked in
kek I can imagine there a few people on here and trannies on rateyourmusic that have that reaction
>nobody:
>poltard: TRANNIES
I find it to be fine
Just music without a fast beat for "ME LOVE FAST ME LOVE SCREAMING JAPANSE WOMEN" no hate to the people that love that.
It only sounds good on moog
not catchy enough. too much wankery
Not enough wankery. Compare classical guitar to prog or metal.
"Wankery" is just development in tasteless idiot speak. There's plenty of 'catchy' classical, however.
at least you are honest
It makes my brain's girldick flaccid
>Try to get into classical
>Mispronounce Dvorak
>People laugh at me
i like choral music, if that counts. it was the one reason i liked going to mass during holidays.