not really, there's some implied implications made up from a patchwork of tweets and shit, but it's funnier to think that it happened, i don't think i care either way
contra said she has career-ending info on someone in the breadtube and it became pretty evident this person was toob as the two used to be good friends and stopped hanging out all of a sudden. contra has even tried to avoid naming him when talking about toob, instead to referring to him as "that person"
contra is also an alcoholic /tttt/ reformee who cannot be trusted to say jack shit. wouldn't be surprised if toob did do something degenerate given how obviously coombrained they are but contra is equally conspicuous
No she fucking didn't
she said she has career-ending info on someone "on the left", didn't mention youtube, could literally be the dude from chapo for all we know
this is why you don't decide who's guilty of rape based on internet games of telephone
>Is it because she's passing and living her best life?
worse, it's because she's twitter famous and people just like bashing celebs. a few years ago everyone hated contra in exactly the same manner, and in a few years everyone will have moved on to hating newly-out finnster or whatever their fotm parasocial hatecrush is
I thought it's because she was proposing some very dangerous ideas about Dysphoria and Gender affirming care that would cause a lot of trans people to have to pay out of pocket for hrt instead of relying on their Healthcare provider?
well i guess that's technically true as what a transvestite or a transvestic fetishist experience are not the same as a transsexual and all of them would fall under the transgender umbrella. treatment is only efficable for gender dysphoria, meaning that transvestite that gets breast augmentation or facial surgery, but never sex reassignment surgery does not have gender dysphoria as they don't suffer distress from both primary and secondary sex characteristics.
saying you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans comes off as tone deaf as the majority of trans people misappropriate gender dysphoria as they pick and choose pieces of the diagnostic criteria to suit their needs without comprehending they're undermining the condition.
bottom dysphoria is made up nonsense. if you don't have bottom dysphoria then you don't have gender dysphoria. means you're a transvestite, but not a transsexual. transvestites are mad because they think they deserve the same legal protections as transsexuals, but how can you say that when they abuse the gender dysphoria diagnosis as a means of committing insurance fraud. if you don't pursue bottom surgery, then you don't have gender dysphoria. it's not a big deal if you want to wear stereotypical women's clothes or have big bolt on tits, but keeping the dick means you identify as male. that's a literal fetish. futanari.
porn has ruined not just one generation (millenials), but two (zoomers as well).
the internet was a mistake. you're 8 year old doesn't need a smart phone. they're just gunna shitpost and look at porn.
Basically everything in your post is factually wrong. Modern research directly proves that biochemical and secondary sex characteristic dysphoria exist and are meaningfully treated by cross-sex HRT completely apart from whether that trans person has bottom dysphoria and needs that kind of gender affirming care as well.
[...]
Toob is wrong that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans, but 99% of trans medicalists fail to recognize that the real problem is that most people trying to figure out their gender identities and/or early in transition absolutely suck at identifying their own dysphoria. We should be trying to educate people that they're very often under-recognizing their own dysphoria rather than gatekeeping the validity of other trans people.
Based on what we know of how HRT works to treat dysphoria, anyone who goes on HRT and has it help them had dysphoria regardless of whether they think they did or not, and anyone who actually didn't have any dysphoria would be expected to develop reverse dysphoria on cross-sex HRT that would make them want to voluntary stop taking it very quickly. This is a big part of why the informed consent standard exits.
The point was never "gender dysphoria doesn't exist," the point was that "gender dysphoria being a medicalized and tangibly defined term gives too much power to cis doctors/politicians/people in general to define trans people out of existence." Which is completely and 100% right The second we start actually constructing a line between who does and doesn't have dysphoria, and that line determines who receives medical, cis people will redefine dysphoria to try and get rid of trans people.
I know this place is full of pickmes when it comes to this stuff compared to when I first started using the board, but I promise you that literally noone who is on this board would be considered trans under old-school Harry Benjamin standards.
I figured, but it seems toob articulated the point poorly due to Twitter space limitations and people took it the wrong way. I'm 100% in favour of the informed consent standard for HRT, and I think that's the standard the medical evidence empirically supports.
She raped contra and tried to argue dysphoria doesn’t exist, she’s also a gigahon so anyone can make fun of her and feel better about themselves
Modern evidence empirically disproves Blanchard's nonsense completely anyway, so there's no longer any reason to even humour it.
>figured, but it seems toob articulated the point poorly due to Twitter space limitations and people took it the wrong way
She literally said "gender dysphoria does not exist. It's a fictitious thing that will be disproven eventually" in other words. There was no misinterpretation, she said those things.
>I figured, but it seems toob articulated the point poorly due to Twitter space limitations and people took it the wrong way.
https://blog.apaonline.org/2023/07/26/gender-dysphoria-and-why-wanting-is-enough/?amp
TL;DR she meant the diagnosis and not the symptoms, but 100% surely she phrased it that way to rile up smoothbrains who don't get the difference, and get free publicity that way.
Basically everything in your post is factually wrong. Modern research directly proves that biochemical and secondary sex characteristic dysphoria exist and are meaningfully treated by cross-sex HRT completely apart from whether that trans person has bottom dysphoria and needs that kind of gender affirming care as well.
everything in this post is completely wrong pickme garbage and makes me realize why toob has been advocating for the deprecation of the term
Toob is wrong that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans, but 99% of trans medicalists fail to recognize that the real problem is that most people trying to figure out their gender identities and/or early in transition absolutely suck at identifying their own dysphoria. We should be trying to educate people that they're very often under-recognizing their own dysphoria rather than gatekeeping the validity of other trans people.
Based on what we know of how HRT works to treat dysphoria, anyone who goes on HRT and has it help them had dysphoria regardless of whether they think they did or not, and anyone who actually didn't have any dysphoria would be expected to develop reverse dysphoria on cross-sex HRT that would make them want to voluntary stop taking it very quickly. This is a big part of why the informed consent standard exits.
>Based on what we know of how HRT works to treat dysphoria, anyone who goes on HRT and has it help them had dysphoria regardless of whether they think they did or not, and anyone who actually didn't have any dysphoria would be expected to develop reverse dysphoria on cross-sex HRT that would make them want to voluntary stop taking it very quickly. This is a big part of why the informed consent standard exits.
yeah, that's basically what i think as well. i usually just say that you don't need dysphoria to be trans, because that's the shorthand for >i don't wanna be an annoying gatekeepfag, i want healthcare and other accomodations for trans people to be freely available
but in my opinion everyone who decides to transition experiences dysphoria in some capacity even if it doesn't align with the specific medical definition in the dsm-v.
[...]
The point was never "gender dysphoria doesn't exist," the point was that "gender dysphoria being a medicalized and tangibly defined term gives too much power to cis doctors/politicians/people in general to define trans people out of existence." Which is completely and 100% right The second we start actually constructing a line between who does and doesn't have dysphoria, and that line determines who receives medical, cis people will redefine dysphoria to try and get rid of trans people.
I know this place is full of pickmes when it comes to this stuff compared to when I first started using the board, but I promise you that literally noone who is on this board would be considered trans under old-school Harry Benjamin standards.
>literally noone who is on this board would be considered trans under old-school Harry Benjamin standards.
that's the thing about all the blanchtards, is that all of them would be considered malebrained perverts by all the gatekeepy doctors they advocate for. you're not a flaming gay sex worker crossdressing, you're a lonely boymoder sitting in your room posting your fingers off on a website for room temperature iq nazi incels. i don't support this kind of very individualistic and inconsiderate stereotyping, but the reality is that most of the terminally online trans women here don't pass the hsts test
>bottom dysphoria is made up nonsense. if you don't have bottom dysphoria then you don't have gender dysphoria. means you're a transvestite, but not a transsexual.
Had me up until this point. I think most of the people that dont want bottom surgery is because I simply dont trust doctors enough to not botch my pussy. Is that the same thing?
ideal for the rapist on the go!
you dont want your victim to escape as soon as you have her in a choke hold while you are tubing her from behind, after all!
i dont have strong feelings about toobs but they have very weird vibes and i dont just mean their aesthetic. something about them screams coomer, im reminded of those overly enthusiastic male feminists.
Its because shes a rapist skinwalker whos basically the tranny equivalent of john carpenters the thing. Contra is a woman, Toob is a psychopathic man with a fetish
So all of the accusations are just "some person said they might have some dirt on someone" and two people no longer being on speaking terms?
That's enough evidence for people or am I missing something here?
>passing
Anyway I hate communists and I also hate (alleged) rapists. Incidentally, anyone I've seen unironically shill for her was someone I already didn't like.
>she's passing and living her best life
Nah. It's because she spouts right wing talking points while saying she's "progressive" and doing great harm to the trans community by saying that the TERFs are right.
wanna see her naked butt
rapist brick
is there actually any source for this
not really, there's some implied implications made up from a patchwork of tweets and shit, but it's funnier to think that it happened, i don't think i care either way
contra said she has career-ending info on someone in the breadtube and it became pretty evident this person was toob as the two used to be good friends and stopped hanging out all of a sudden. contra has even tried to avoid naming him when talking about toob, instead to referring to him as "that person"
contra needs to shit or get off the pot
she's long off the pot for this one. she will never reveal who it was and hasn't mentioned it again.
contra is also an alcoholic /tttt/ reformee who cannot be trusted to say jack shit. wouldn't be surprised if toob did do something degenerate given how obviously coombrained they are but contra is equally conspicuous
No she fucking didn't
she said she has career-ending info on someone "on the left", didn't mention youtube, could literally be the dude from chapo for all we know
this is why you don't decide who's guilty of rape based on internet games of telephone
There was no rape its more they were a total creep, still are and not a one for not knowing when to stop with something
>still are
Interesting, what do you know?
Can't really talk about it much here as some of the people involved don't want it talked about but know in time everyone will know how horrid she is.
Didn't rape was just a creep that doesn't understand boundaries and has been creepy to plenty of people.
take a look at OP's pic
I think it has to do with a conspiracy theory/rumor that she raped Contra and trooned out as blackmail for her not to tell or else.
she raped contrapoints (allegedly)
yup. simple as
i get suicidally depressed over any uk tranny that is able to girlmode happily so yes yes yes
>Is it because she's passing and living her best life?
worse, it's because she's twitter famous and people just like bashing celebs. a few years ago everyone hated contra in exactly the same manner, and in a few years everyone will have moved on to hating newly-out finnster or whatever their fotm parasocial hatecrush is
I thought it's because she was proposing some very dangerous ideas about Dysphoria and Gender affirming care that would cause a lot of trans people to have to pay out of pocket for hrt instead of relying on their Healthcare provider?
It's not fair that troons get to have money while I don't
Ibdont really follow her much but I kind of hate how she tries to speak for the tran community while saying shit like dysphoria isn't real.
>you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans
well i guess that's technically true as what a transvestite or a transvestic fetishist experience are not the same as a transsexual and all of them would fall under the transgender umbrella. treatment is only efficable for gender dysphoria, meaning that transvestite that gets breast augmentation or facial surgery, but never sex reassignment surgery does not have gender dysphoria as they don't suffer distress from both primary and secondary sex characteristics.
saying you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans comes off as tone deaf as the majority of trans people misappropriate gender dysphoria as they pick and choose pieces of the diagnostic criteria to suit their needs without comprehending they're undermining the condition.
bottom dysphoria is made up nonsense. if you don't have bottom dysphoria then you don't have gender dysphoria. means you're a transvestite, but not a transsexual. transvestites are mad because they think they deserve the same legal protections as transsexuals, but how can you say that when they abuse the gender dysphoria diagnosis as a means of committing insurance fraud. if you don't pursue bottom surgery, then you don't have gender dysphoria. it's not a big deal if you want to wear stereotypical women's clothes or have big bolt on tits, but keeping the dick means you identify as male. that's a literal fetish. futanari.
porn has ruined not just one generation (millenials), but two (zoomers as well).
the internet was a mistake. you're 8 year old doesn't need a smart phone. they're just gunna shitpost and look at porn.
everything in this post is completely wrong pickme garbage and makes me realize why toob has been advocating for the deprecation of the term
The point was never "gender dysphoria doesn't exist," the point was that "gender dysphoria being a medicalized and tangibly defined term gives too much power to cis doctors/politicians/people in general to define trans people out of existence." Which is completely and 100% right The second we start actually constructing a line between who does and doesn't have dysphoria, and that line determines who receives medical, cis people will redefine dysphoria to try and get rid of trans people.
I know this place is full of pickmes when it comes to this stuff compared to when I first started using the board, but I promise you that literally noone who is on this board would be considered trans under old-school Harry Benjamin standards.
I figured, but it seems toob articulated the point poorly due to Twitter space limitations and people took it the wrong way. I'm 100% in favour of the informed consent standard for HRT, and I think that's the standard the medical evidence empirically supports.
Modern evidence empirically disproves Blanchard's nonsense completely anyway, so there's no longer any reason to even humour it.
>figured, but it seems toob articulated the point poorly due to Twitter space limitations and people took it the wrong way
She literally said "gender dysphoria does not exist. It's a fictitious thing that will be disproven eventually" in other words. There was no misinterpretation, she said those things.
this, I hate this schtick of e-celebs saying inflammatory shit and then their simps pretending that you're just not big-brained enough to get it
>I figured, but it seems toob articulated the point poorly due to Twitter space limitations and people took it the wrong way.
https://blog.apaonline.org/2023/07/26/gender-dysphoria-and-why-wanting-is-enough/?amp
TL;DR she meant the diagnosis and not the symptoms, but 100% surely she phrased it that way to rile up smoothbrains who don't get the difference, and get free publicity that way.
Basically everything in your post is factually wrong. Modern research directly proves that biochemical and secondary sex characteristic dysphoria exist and are meaningfully treated by cross-sex HRT completely apart from whether that trans person has bottom dysphoria and needs that kind of gender affirming care as well.
Toob is wrong that you don't need gender dysphoria to be trans, but 99% of trans medicalists fail to recognize that the real problem is that most people trying to figure out their gender identities and/or early in transition absolutely suck at identifying their own dysphoria. We should be trying to educate people that they're very often under-recognizing their own dysphoria rather than gatekeeping the validity of other trans people.
Based on what we know of how HRT works to treat dysphoria, anyone who goes on HRT and has it help them had dysphoria regardless of whether they think they did or not, and anyone who actually didn't have any dysphoria would be expected to develop reverse dysphoria on cross-sex HRT that would make them want to voluntary stop taking it very quickly. This is a big part of why the informed consent standard exits.
>Based on what we know of how HRT works to treat dysphoria, anyone who goes on HRT and has it help them had dysphoria regardless of whether they think they did or not, and anyone who actually didn't have any dysphoria would be expected to develop reverse dysphoria on cross-sex HRT that would make them want to voluntary stop taking it very quickly. This is a big part of why the informed consent standard exits.
yeah, that's basically what i think as well. i usually just say that you don't need dysphoria to be trans, because that's the shorthand for
>i don't wanna be an annoying gatekeepfag, i want healthcare and other accomodations for trans people to be freely available
but in my opinion everyone who decides to transition experiences dysphoria in some capacity even if it doesn't align with the specific medical definition in the dsm-v.
>literally noone who is on this board would be considered trans under old-school Harry Benjamin standards.
that's the thing about all the blanchtards, is that all of them would be considered malebrained perverts by all the gatekeepy doctors they advocate for. you're not a flaming gay sex worker crossdressing, you're a lonely boymoder sitting in your room posting your fingers off on a website for room temperature iq nazi incels. i don't support this kind of very individualistic and inconsiderate stereotyping, but the reality is that most of the terminally online trans women here don't pass the hsts test
Facts. You spilled
>bottom dysphoria is made up nonsense. if you don't have bottom dysphoria then you don't have gender dysphoria. means you're a transvestite, but not a transsexual.
Had me up until this point. I think most of the people that dont want bottom surgery is because I simply dont trust doctors enough to not botch my pussy. Is that the same thing?
Jay Leno?
if she’d had more aggressive ffs she’d look like ava
wow it might be because she is a fucking creep
She raped contra and tried to argue dysphoria doesn’t exist, she’s also a gigahon so anyone can make fun of her and feel better about themselves
>passing
Lol
Beat me to it.
I don't know, she probably does pass. I mean, there are some cis women that have kind of manly faces like picrel so I think toob looks fine as well.
see
She's beautiful but from what I remember (I stopped watching her even before she transitioned) is that she's just an incredibly annoying socdem.
>literal glowie aristocrat sex pest
>"why don't you trannies like troob??"
for this post to work you might want to pick an image of her where she actually, you know, passes
Yes. There’s no way she actually raped contra, it was probably Vaush who she was referring to.
trip on, toob
chewb looks like they smell like a packet of walker's cheese and onion
That's actually a bit unfortunate, how tall is she? The way she towers over those women is some serious ropefuel.
she is only 6'2
>only 6'2
If you're taller than 5'6 then you should not transition you will never pass
chewb is a honbeast obvi but
Copium lmao. Nobody is built like that
majority of short tranners seem to have bigger feet than me
t. 5'10
What's your shoe size?
38
>only 6'2"
You need to have amazing genetics to pass at that height
God what I'd give to get in bed with her and let her snuggle and hold me to herself underneath a warm blanket @_@
Can't wait for this to be me I heckin love being 6'3 ^-^
i want to die
t. 6'2, actually gained 2 inches while on hrt
Have they ever done a double blind for HRT and dysphoria?
RAPIST!
RAPIST!
RAPIST!
>upper body workout
ideal for the rapist on the go!
you dont want your victim to escape as soon as you have her in a choke hold while you are tubing her from behind, after all!
i dont have strong feelings about toobs but they have very weird vibes and i dont just mean their aesthetic. something about them screams coomer, im reminded of those overly enthusiastic male feminists.
>something about them screams coomer
you think?
god this image is chilling, every time I see it the hairs on the back of my neck stand up ugh
that image makes me feel ill, i am so happy i stopped using that horrible site years ago. now i just have to find a way out of here and ill be set
Its because shes a rapist skinwalker whos basically the tranny equivalent of john carpenters the thing. Contra is a woman, Toob is a psychopathic man with a fetish
So all of the accusations are just "some person said they might have some dirt on someone" and two people no longer being on speaking terms?
That's enough evidence for people or am I missing something here?
hi toob
OIIIIIMMM GONNNA CHEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWWWWB
She doesn't believe dysphoria exists. Therefore anything she has to say about trans stuff belongs in the garbage can.
I thought it was because she's a skin walker who only decided to Troon out due to her obsession with contra
https://www.mintpressnews.com/leaked-files-expose-syria-psyops-veteran-abigail-thorn-counter-covid-restriction-critics/279327/
>passing
Anyway I hate communists and I also hate (alleged) rapists. Incidentally, anyone I've seen unironically shill for her was someone I already didn't like.
>passing
heh.
>she's passing and living her best life
Nah. It's because she spouts right wing talking points while saying she's "progressive" and doing great harm to the trans community by saying that the TERFs are right.
>upper body workout
abigail why
that is the last thing you need