be content with what you have and learn to be greatful for little things. impossible to do for rich pedos who have everything in the world, which is why they're doomed, but not as impossible for you or me :^)
Understanding is only as good as the amount it leads to action. Many addicts understand their addicted yet are in grips with their sin the hedonistic treadmill has a way of possesing the indivual overtime.
>borrow the power of demons for their sins.
people are really that fucking stupid. Astonishing. Absolutely flabbergasting. uh huh muh sin muh power muh demons holy shit my f
It's funny seeing people that have never studied occultism talking like they know about it in this thread. The teachings are just a collection of logical aphorisms about the way reality seems to work, and how to use it to make your life better.
funny you should post this, because i was about to. it's actually much worse than the meme suggests. me, being curious and an occult literature enjoyer, i read through everything listed over the last couple years. even the material in the list itself is 99% woo woo bologna. it's gets incredibly gay and magickal larpy throughout much of it. furthermore, the kybalion itself is wrong, seemingly unaware of the concept of non-duality by it's own definitions. occultism is the big gay, and to answer OP's question, it's for people who couldn't cut it in school, people who were filtered by the physical sciences. this is their cope. that nagger franz bardon says so much outrageous crap like how to levitate and believing in ouija boards unironically. if it's answers you're looking for maybe let's put the weed down for a moment and then try heidegger, kant, leibnitz and geunon instead of this cringe. spoiler: we don't know all the answers, we literally cannot even begin to comprehend anything which lies beyond the sum of all phenomena. there is no such thing as a trancendental experience, because even that exists within the realm of phenomena. like duh BONK 5head
Lol ok bro. Name a process or an emotion that doesn't have duality/rhythm given enough time.
Also if you have suggestions for any specific books by these authors I'd love to read it.
I'm actually almost done with the arcane books in that list and it has helped me manage my mental health better.
The only thing we can really know for sure is that whoever controls your eyeballs, controls your mind, and the best we can do is pick up breadcrumbs that give us some kind of meaning.
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Viperion
>any specific books
"Hands On Chaos Magic - Reality Manipulation Through The Ovayki Current" is very direct and cuts a lot of the larpiness out of magic and gets straight to the point on many things
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Temperature, for example hot vs. cold. There's no real distinction here, temperature itself is one discrete thing with varying degrees along a unified spectrum. Then we must consider what temperature actually is, which is ultimately a function of potential energy being manifested as motion. The same goes for ideals, such as what we consider to be good vs. evil. Evil per se does not exist, it's just a variation of the ultimate and perfect form of goodness or that which we call God. You can work your way through everything in this manner, since from an ontological perspective you will arrive at the ultimate reality which contains all of everything, and within this context this thing in and of itself is perfectly uniform because it is eternity, infinity. I don't mean to come down so hard on the occult, it has also helped me in a lot of ways, but then i went down the more academic philosophy route and sadly they won. sadly kant was right with his critique of pure reason, but it totally kills the fun and the appeal of delving in to the more esoteric material, since the answer is already spoiled. i would almost suggest not reading it or be defiant towards it. i still like to ponder the true nature of God even though I know we're incapable.
Even all physical matter and radiation has duality.
Because all these things have vibration. And vibration is rhythm, and rhythm is duality.
And this is actually backed up by physical sciences.
Even a particle at absolute zero has the potential to heat up again, thus it has dualness.
you're compartmentalizing and categorizing differentiations from a limited human perspective. yes, the dualistic perspective dates back to the dawn of time or the dawn of cause and effect, but had you considered the realm that lies beyond or before this initial cause and effect? maybe not everything works like this, maybe there's just infinity. everything else is contained within this larger realm and is instrinsically linked to the whole. you gotta zoom out and take a good look at the ALL that hermeticists love so dearly. They got very close to the mark with the whole bit about 'the one is in the all but the one is not the all' but they just barely missed it. the one IS the ALL, and it's you and that's awesome.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>temperature itself is one discrete thing with varying degrees along a unified spectrum
OK this line of logic gets one thing right, that most values are better modeled as gradients than as binaries, but it gets the next part wrong when it can't recognize that two different points on a gradient have RELATIVE DIFFERENCES.
So good and evil do exist, but always in relation to a vantage point of perspective of the criteria used to judge the two choices.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
correct, and it just so happens we have the ultimate criteria, the unit of measure against which all others are measured, this of course being the end member of all possible perfections, also known as the one and only God Almighty Himself.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
correct.
As you have judged, so you will be judged.
The rod you have held to others will be held to you.
I believe there is another quote in the Koran, along the lines of: israelites, Christians and Muslims - each will be judged according to their religion.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
there's something to be said of the plethora of near death experience reports that mention the 'life review'. for those who don't know, the gist of it is that when you first enter the spirit realm after death, you view a playback reel of your entire life. it's like a movie, but you can feel it. you can feel all the pain that you caused to others. that troll post you posted, i'm sorry anons, but you're gonna atone for that one. you're gonna atone for all of them. there's a reason for this. you're still not fully attuned, you're carrying mortal baggage. this will need to be purged before you can enter back into the light. the light itself does not contain any corruption, so before you can achieve unity with the source you'll need to process the lessons you learned on your last hardcore speed run, and deposit them onto the fractal matrix aether, ever expaning into the primordial chaos.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
correct, and it just so happens we have the ultimate criteria, the unit of measure against which all others are measured, this of course being the end member of all possible perfections, also known as the one and only God Almighty Himself.
correct.
As you have judged, so you will be judged.
The rod you have held to others will be held to you.
I believe there is another quote in the Koran, along the lines of: israelites, Christians and Muslims - each will be judged according to their religion.
Lol, lmao even.
Logical impossibility, an omnipotent being is not justified in judging anyone.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
he's right and he's wrong. remember the ontological perspective that you're dealing with literal perfection. heidegger's autism might refer to this as pre-ontological. it has access to the end members of every possible gradient. it has the capacity for perfect unconditional love, because that's what it is. it also emerged out of chaos, meaning it is infinite potential energy or the sum of all possibilities. one of these possibilities could be the entity being described here. i'd hardly call it a childlike perspective, it can be viewed as a logical emergence or emanation as described by the neoplatonics, everything eventually returning to the source along the path of a torus, this being the path of least resistance, as reflected by patterns observed in nature.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
oof this is the wrong takeaway without any question at all.
Dualism is for normalfags.
/polx/ threads are best threads
No shit. Oldfags used to get into this shit all of the time. The newfags ruined this place by never letting go of muh israelites instead of actually reading a book and posting loads of bible verses like they think someone is going to upvote them for farming consensus.
because you've decided to take the path of what mark passio calls the de-occultist and have rejected the left hand path because you care about others and you want to instill goodness in them and give them the moral compass they so desperately lack on account of living in upside down clown world. i don't like the NPC take, i don't call people hylics. i choose to assert that everyone and everything is an aspect of the divine that resides within all of creation. this domain includes animals, plants, and even minerals which i hold to be conscious living entities. remember the parable of the girl on the beach throwing starfish back into the ocean. she knows whe can't save them all, but it was worth it to save even just one. i know this sounds cringe and Oprah tier but really it's Christ tier thinking. yes, he warned us not to cast pearls before swine, but he also gave everyone a very good friendly reminder and then dropped the mic so as to not belabor the point to those without ears to hear.
>left hand path
Anon, it just means heterodox instead of orthodox. Whoever has convinced you, Passio, Cooper and all of the other LARPers who don't actually read books is duping you. You got played. That's not what the word means.
This is a plot by orthodox naggers who want to gatekeep spirituality in telling them "if you don't follow all of our faggy, arbitrary rules, you're le devil lol". They're robbing you of the liberty to lead your own path.
Kabbalah is not anything more than Chaldean (subtext: Akkadian) religion, only they don’t quite personify the gods in the same way, instead they call them Sephirot to denote that they’re a part of the godhead and not independent actors. Every other aspect of Kabbalah comes straight from Chaldea part-and-parcel. They brought it back after the Babylonian captivity and formed a new priestly class called Pharisees to protect it.
Some people say Persia and some people say Egypt. Who cares where it came from? All that matters is "the israelites did it first" is obviously complete bullshit.
More politically-relevant than foot fetish spam, and not a 1pbtid either, calm your tits
We have these threads somewhat regularly these days. The issue is too many newfags infest these threads with shitposts and gatekeeping. There's layers upon layers of back and forth methodology at play in these threads and part of it is about gatekeeping, part of it is about warring Mysticism factions, then there's a whole other part where you have to effortpost and lecture newfags to socialize them so they don't just fucking ruin the website.
It's the most stimulating thing /misc/ has done in a while, but it also kicks up the most dirt and makes people sperg the most.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
That’s a good thing innit? The amazing thing about humans is we have an ability to stop being chaff and start being wheat. The old redpill generals of the pre-Trump years were much the same. The dumbass shitposters who used to infest those threads have now grown into the thoughtful contributors to these threads.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I guess that makes me a testament to this theory then.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
my brother in memes if you are seeing thoughtful contributors on /misc/ you must be hallucinating. /misc/s popular conceptions of basically anything anything are piss poor, even basic things like what kind of nutrition an average person needs lmao. Spirituality especially. Nobody has ever -learned- about these topics on LULZ. They learned somwhere else and got called a israelite or shill when posting about it here, before drowning in the sea of shitposting again. Take my advice anons: stop caring about politics RIGHT NOW. DEAD END AHEAD, turn back now. God doesn't like to spill so why would he pour into a glass that (thinks it) is already full. I just unvealed the great mystery right here, you now have what it takes to experience that tradition which Freemasonry was meant to preserve. Watch how niggas will call it fake and gay
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
bump
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Freemasonry was built to preserve the same “mystery” that the Tibetan Buddhists practice, the cultivation of an electric double in which your ghosts can persist past the bodily death. They claim it’s “immortality,” it’s not. A passing thing cannot forever remain. If your “immortality” requires a constant input of external energy, you’d better bet that’ll run out soon enough, and you’ll face the same fate as the rest of the dead. Only at the end of days will the Masons et. al. realize their folly
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How do you suppose becoming immortal works? You get a test from god?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
No, you convince Him to resurrect you through your faith and works. It’s entirely His decision who He wants to bring back. So, best be on His good side, so to speak.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
How do you suppose becoming immortal works? You get a test from god?
Immortality is literally just having children, anon.
The "Mystery" that Masons were preserving was the Middle Path that leads to Kether and the Christ, the Holy Fool or Child. It's about "Squaring the Circle".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
> Freemasonry was built to preserve the same “mystery” that the Tibetan Buddhists practice
agree to an extent > the cultivation of an electric double in which your ghosts can persist past the bodily death
I completely disagree, sorry, what you describe here is simply not compatible with any current of Buddhism at all. Nor is it in buddhism. It's really that simple, anon. It's all about falling deeply in love with capital G God and saying "less of me, and more of you". Christian ameriboomers can't entertain such a notion at all, let alone the fact that others are doing a better job at "it" than they are lmao. They will say it's of the devil, when really they advocate the very same teaching every time they say "Christ is King" lmao
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Immortality is literally just having children, anon.
The "Mystery" that Masons were preserving was the Middle Path that leads to Kether and the Christ, the Holy Fool or Child. It's about "Squaring the Circle".
>Immortality is literally just having children, anon
based, i tend to agree, although we could also agree that the great sages of history have become invincible through their good works. Do good in the world and you will have many children without ever laying two inches of pipe
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
> nor is it in buddhism
*in masonry
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Do good in the world and you will have many children without ever laying two inches of pipe
There's another element to this which deals with "dying" (ego) yourself and becoming a new version of (You) and there's also Autogenesis, which I guess is supposed to be a thing women can do, but there are other implications like what I suggested.
Anyway, the way that Egyptians and other ancients lived for thousands of years or something (a topic commonly discussed when one brings up immortality) is also easily explained: they had kids and their kids "remembered their past lives" which was their fathers' lives, their grandfathers' lives and so on. They weren't actually living in the same body forever, they were just tapping the genetic memory of the bloodline. It wasn't the same person it was just Rameses 1, then 2, then 3 and so on. This is your ancient "immortality".
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>another element to this which deals with "dying" (ego) yourself and becoming a new version of (You)
THat's what i've been harping on about non stop in this thread atleast the last few posts
Even all physical matter and radiation has duality.
Because all these things have vibration. And vibration is rhythm, and rhythm is duality.
And this is actually backed up by physical sciences.
Even a particle at absolute zero has the potential to heat up again, thus it has dualness.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You're leaving out the part where this duality gets reconciled from within the source it springs forth from in the first place
I can really tell you're not well-versed in this stuff at all
What you dont like magnetic soup magic bro? Also sorry sweaty, the kybalion mightve been written by a retarded charlatan, it seems like he had a bright moment and it's unironically recommended by most as first look into principles of Hermetic Qabalah of all things. And it's nothing too surprising either because most of the principles are in fact found even in the Tree of Life. There's people who speculated that PFC had something to do with it, it's that "good". Though it's also one of the most overblown and least understood meme texts
You're making so many people seethe right now. >muh normalfags mustn't know what I know so I can maintain leverage!
Look, someone even beat me to it
funny you should post this, because i was about to. it's actually much worse than the meme suggests. me, being curious and an occult literature enjoyer, i read through everything listed over the last couple years. even the material in the list itself is 99% woo woo bologna. it's gets incredibly gay and magickal larpy throughout much of it. furthermore, the kybalion itself is wrong, seemingly unaware of the concept of non-duality by it's own definitions. occultism is the big gay, and to answer OP's question, it's for people who couldn't cut it in school, people who were filtered by the physical sciences. this is their cope. that nagger franz bardon says so much outrageous crap like how to levitate and believing in ouija boards unironically. if it's answers you're looking for maybe let's put the weed down for a moment and then try heidegger, kant, leibnitz and geunon instead of this cringe. spoiler: we don't know all the answers, we literally cannot even begin to comprehend anything which lies beyond the sum of all phenomena. there is no such thing as a trancendental experience, because even that exists within the realm of phenomena. like duh BONK 5head
>i-it's not real >y-yeah, no one read any of this because it's stupid and dumb and you won't like it >now go masturbate to BBC porn instead lol
A wish is not necessary nagger magic. If I say and believe the world in peace and harmony, it doesn't make it that way. Knowledge isn't power of the will.
It's been going on for thousands of years. Mystery religion in ancient Greece. Kaballa. The sex magic bullshit. Scientology.
I think it works because no outsiders can imagine a whole cult is falling for bullshit and nonsense.
Rich people get sucked into those scams as.much as anyone else. It's not like having money means anything about an individuals wisdom or intelligence even
Madam Blavatsky for example was a thoroughly debunked scammer but the "Lucis Trust" is still involved with the UN.
This is an opinion that I can imagine someone coming up with if they want an excuse not to study any occult/spiritual material and remain in their comfy atheist world. It’s not an opinion that you’d be holding if you spent any amount of time looking into it
blavatsky is too high IQ for retards like you. Maybe 1% of the global population wont get filtered by the secret doctrine, you are like a child trying to read a book on advanced calculus and calling it all fake because you cant understand it
too high IQ, yet still too dumb enough to find Christ
Anon, you realize most of the Theosophy world, along with basically everyone else, had a largely congealed opinion of the Christ, right? Christian Mystics like Eckhart, Bohme, Swedenborg and Steiner were huge influences to people like Blavatsky. You should just read the material.
It gives you power. Thats why no matter how much evil they do nothing ever happens to them. Magic is real.
It also helped the Rothschild family take over the world. See the first Rothschild, Mayer Amschel Bauer who took on the name Rothschild from the family crest, a red shield. Some say there used to be a symbol on the red shield. A star of some type. I believe this symbol was what gave him his power.
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
>John Whiteside Parsons (born Marvel Whiteside Parsons;[nb 1] October 2, 1914 – June 17, 1952) was an American rocket engineer, chemist, and Thelemite occultist. Associated with the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), Parsons was one of the principal founders of both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation. He invented the first rocket engine to use a castable, composite rocket propellant,[1] and pioneered the advancement of both liquid-fuel and solid-fuel rockets.
>Following some brief involvement with Marxism in 1939, Parsons converted to Thelema, the new religious movement founded by the English occultist Aleister Crowley. Together with his first wife, Helen Northrup, Parsons joined the Agape Lodge, the Californian branch of the Thelemite Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) in 1941. At Crowley's bidding, Parsons replaced Wilfred Talbot Smith as its leader in 1942 and ran the Lodge from his mansion on Orange Grove Boulevard.
and the Wright brothers were Vanderbilts
maybe black magic does fly planes after all
Algol, in astrological lore is considered an extremely evil and deleterious star but when comes to magic it has the quality to propitiate the confection of protective talismans and other items, considered on of the best energies agaisnt both physical and spiritual harm.
Kabbalah is not anything more than Chaldean (subtext: Akkadian) religion, only they don’t quite personify the gods in the same way, instead they call them Sephirot to denote that they’re a part of the godhead and not independent actors. Every other aspect of Kabbalah comes straight from Chaldea part-and-parcel. They brought it back after the Babylonian captivity and formed a new priestly class called Pharisees to protect it.
The old tranny Chan of Brazil had a story about a Guy who got into the left hand Path secret society
He got FUCKED
They make hell on earth
They are real
They are chaotic
>normalfags display their gross lack of understanding of basic terms
That concept doesn't mean what you think it means. >left hand Path secret society
topkek
Kek sometimes I love how gullible the non-occultists are around spooky terms they don’t recognize.
Left hand path is a broad category, and nobody really agrees on what makes one tradition left hand or right hand. It started out in the Theosophy days, with love-and-light hippies who liked the transcendent “all is one” bullshit of mainstream anglicized forms of Buddhism and Hinduism, while labeling all the spooky tantric schools that used sex and drugs as “left hand”. Then Satanists started using “left hand” to mean “free will and being based and redpilled”
Depending on who you ask, Evola, Crowley, Christ and Buddha can all be considered left hand or right hand.
There certainly is no one group called “the left hand path” that would be like a secret society of high level democrats called “the liberals”
Oh hell yeah baby its another one of these HAHAHAHAHHAHA i cant wait for the blood and honor boomers to show up and teach us about kabbalah and mysticism. Oh boomer where art thou? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>kabbalah and mysticism
science and chemistry are purer veins of intellect but clearly this is about spooky dress up time. Better than Mega Sports hysteria I suppose.
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
>John Whiteside Parsons (born Marvel Whiteside Parsons;[nb 1] October 2, 1914 – June 17, 1952) was an American rocket engineer, chemist, and Thelemite occultist. Associated with the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), Parsons was one of the principal founders of both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation. He invented the first rocket engine to use a castable, composite rocket propellant,[1] and pioneered the advancement of both liquid-fuel and solid-fuel rockets.
>Following some brief involvement with Marxism in 1939, Parsons converted to Thelema, the new religious movement founded by the English occultist Aleister Crowley. Together with his first wife, Helen Northrup, Parsons joined the Agape Lodge, the Californian branch of the Thelemite Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) in 1941. At Crowley's bidding, Parsons replaced Wilfred Talbot Smith as its leader in 1942 and ran the Lodge from his mansion on Orange Grove Boulevard.
>hoodwinked
everyone knew he was gay, and a traitor, but then again being one meant being the other back then, read degenerate moderns
that was AOS but Agape lodge went to complete shit and WT Smith should've remained in charge. JP left the OTO a couple of years before blowing himself up though
You're saying that was Spare? I'm pretty sure that was Parson though.
that was AOS but Agape lodge went to complete shit and WT Smith should've remained in charge. JP left the OTO a couple of years before blowing himself up though
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic.
Oh really?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-one-can-explain-why-planes-stay-in-the-air/
They don't believe in any karma or afterlife. Normal entertainment and hobbies are not enough to satisfy the rich. That's why they turn to having sex with, murdering and eating children.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA right on cue > mysticism is not actuall about stuff like meditating to become more altruistic > no its about child sacrifice
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Christianity is dead, people are sick of 'israelites' vs Muslims. Once people are completely disillusioned with religion they will offer the alternative.
Kabbalah and hermeneutics are simply tautologies that affirm the aptly named magical thinking which justifies to rich people (a class that can categorically be described as penultimate midwits) why they were both lucky and justifies the luck. Midwits hate luck because they are egocentric, so anything that explains this luck is weighed favorably.
>Kabbalah and hermeneutics are simply tautologies that affirm the aptly named magical thinking
I'm not really expecting a better take on this in the thread, but I'm also not hardly surprised that no one understands what psi research is, that it's been ongoing for around a century now and that its regular breach of 6σ standards isn't just world changing but a concentrated and clear confirmation that this isn't just woo-woo bullshit that's made up.
It's essentially gatekeeping.
By feeding Christian larp to the people, which forbids essentially everything, you keep people ignorant.
Anyone can benefit, and even food companies make good use of sensible occultism. Ever seen a bag of Cheetos saying they're delicious? Yep, simple trick that makes them tastier, and now that you know, think cig box messages... Ever seen a prediction that cancer is on the rise?
Kid, like a damn fiddle...
While you don't actually seem to understand what Christianity was or what it iterated, this is a decent description that breaks down Suggestion and that's about it. If everyone wasn't so lazy and would actually just read some Plato or Aristotle, they'd already understand that Mentalism is pretty integral to modern life.
Hell, normalfags don't even know what we're all doing right now with these machines that help us scry.
I like the Buddhism concept of "all deities are just the a reflection of self", but I haven't worked with any deities yet myself or at least won't invoke them here.
What I will tell you is that his name isn't Kek, but Kekui. >so your comment assuming that I'm Christian is very American
Should I really not just expect people to have mundane spiritual perspectives here? Where is the precedent for that?
Whoa, where have you been
For the same reason you look to science brainlet >doesn’t make a 747 fly
Yeah you probably don’t understand how planes fly either. Somebody told you some basic explanation and you just accepted it as reality. God I fucking hate you all. Planes aren’t even real.
He's here all the time, anon. Namefags gonna namefag.
This one could be worse though.
Why is kabbalah hard to understand? It almost seems like bullshit
Humans spiritually crave conflict and tradition. Occultism is tradition, but it's safe for the heckin' wholesome 100 rebels who hate their country and organized religion.
It's essentially gatekeeping.
By feeding Christian larp to the people, which forbids essentially everything, you keep people ignorant.
Anyone can benefit, and even food companies make good use of sensible occultism. Ever seen a bag of Cheetos saying they're delicious? Yep, simple trick that makes them tastier, and now that you know, think cig box messages... Ever seen a prediction that cancer is on the rise?
Did it ever cross your mind that the cargocult running this show has wasted centuries shaping the masses in its image: histrionic, LARPing turbo homosexuals chasing dragons?
Did it ever cross your mind that the most proficient liars may just be the people who don't know that they are lying? Ponder all the falsehood you've been taught throughout your life and how many of them you've regurgitated with unwavering confidence and zeal, until you've learned the error of your ways.
Did it every cross your mind that the propaganda may not actually be directed at the general masses, but at the cargocultists? Ponder the behaviour of the masses, they always side with the victors, no matter what.
If the cargocult starts to doubt, i.e. divert from the manta of "all is going according to plan" and if you, genuine anons, stop believing them omnipotent, omniscient and infallible, they may just ... well, stop being omnipotent, omniscient and infallible. How do you ever hope to spot a mistake of your opponent, if you consider him infallible?
Just how many times has /misc/ in particular helped crowdsource a retcon for this cargocult? Some goes terribly wrong and about a million anons jump through whatever hoops necessary to explain it away and pat the cargocult's back.
As we recounted previously, "the cargo cult" isn't bad or anything. Instead, it's the pervasive symbolism and architecture that animates modern spiritual/religious concepts. There isn't one big hegemony of "the cargo cult" and this phrasing makes it seem like you're not very fluent in English despite trying to be.
Or are you speaking to a particular part of "the cargo cult"? Because that seems way more reasonable. But you just blaming everything on and ambiguously pointing fingers at "the cargo cult" just makes it seem like you don't understand what you're saying.
The whole idea of it is similar to speed running glitching BS where you do some arbitrary things to mess with the world's RNG to work in your advantage. Although it's kinda fumb
Because there's nothing else. Why do you strive for money? Because you're poor or if not, merely not filthy rich. You could be richer, right? So you look toward material gain. You look toward experiencing all of the worldly pleasures.
But these people already experienced all of that.
Mansions? Check.
Luxury vehicles? Check.
Yachts and jets? Check.
Visited all over the world? Check.
Met all the relevant famous and important people? Check.
Ate all of the most expensive delicacies? Check.
Tried the relevant drugs and other dopamine spiking activities? Check.
Had orgies or sex with the same sex and underage partners? Check.
Abused and helped people to see how they'd feel about it? Check.
Invested into whatever makes them the most happy, be it hobbies, work, or otherwise? Check.
So what the fuck else is there aside from attempting to uncover the unknown or join some mysterious super secretive organization in hopes that they can offer your life some new meaning or even extend it?
But it wasn't a difficult question. I just went through the process of elimination to come to the most likely conclusion. These people have already did it all. Literally everything. That's why they're looking for something new. Either ancient mysteries or tech. It doesn't mean that they 100% believe in them, but what do they stand to lose? If they're multi millionaires or even billionaires, what's a few hundred thousand to them? Frankly, what's a few hundred million or more to the billionaire class? They don't give a fuck about the money. They know exactly how to make more of it. It's only a means to them to achieve their goals, to make their lives... interesting, I guess? I can't think of any other reason why they'd do what they do.
So why were/are the greatest sages practicing asceticsm, my man? Your line of reasoning is limited by things you (don't) know, like every single person on /misc/ who writes more than a paragraph in threads like these so
>So what the fuck else is there
I am just going to stop making threads
what did you expect? I pictured you throwing bait and sitting down with some popcorn but you were expecting serious answers?
>you were expecting serious answers?
/pol was better in 2016. Almost a decade ago now. Wow. I am getting old. I was expecting seriousness, how foolish as a clown world captain. Time to take my hormone pills.
Numerals of truth. Everything changes anon, it's one of those occult truths that stormfag ameriboomer will call you a israelite for if you're interested in finding out about it. I'll try to save the thread. Its impossible to summarize the true value of what is known as "esotericism" or "the occult" but ill try to point out some things about it: God, through Nature and other things dictates all. To understand how things (all of them) -really- work is to know God. Some people, even evil ones, may at some point in their life run into a moment of deep self reflection and will speak of their life as before and after this moment. Many of them are somehow driven to engage with all of the world's spiritual and philosophical traditions until they arrive at one that will truly lead them to God. The scary part though is that "magic" itself is not bound by virtue, ethics, morality or anything like that. There are those who, for whatever reason, become (self or otherwise) educated in technical know-how without ever being bothered by things like self reflection, spiritual duty or whatever, and they end up using its techniques for selfish purposes. I'm sure you can think of countless examples of people using (even withholding) information and technology to increase power, profits, control, stature and so on. Magic also does not require any tools or equipment other than a functional human brain being directed by its owner. The baby eaters, if they exist, do that shit because they enjoy it, not because it's "muh key to occult powers" like your average B&H christcuck ameriboomer would have you believe. They are retarded and don't know anything
They just do shitposts when they want to participate but can't. They're like women who ruin everything they can't have.
>So why were/are the greatest sages practicing asceticsm
You're talking about an idolized version of Buddhism that never existed in the past. "Sages" didn't exclusively adhere to ascetic beliefs, they'd adhere to them in times of need.
I'd tell you to read some actual fucking history books, but you seem to lack the skill of discerning truth from fiction and would probably read a passage about fasting and exclaim that people of old didn't need to eat.
>You're talking about an idolized version of Buddhism
Are you being serious? Asceticism has been practiced all over the entire world. Thinking Buddhism owns asceticism is just hilarious.
Numerals of truth. Everything changes anon, it's one of those occult truths that stormfag ameriboomer will call you a israelite for if you're interested in finding out about it. I'll try to save the thread. Its impossible to summarize the true value of what is known as "esotericism" or "the occult" but ill try to point out some things about it: God, through Nature and other things dictates all. To understand how things (all of them) -really- work is to know God. Some people, even evil ones, may at some point in their life run into a moment of deep self reflection and will speak of their life as before and after this moment. Many of them are somehow driven to engage with all of the world's spiritual and philosophical traditions until they arrive at one that will truly lead them to God. The scary part though is that "magic" itself is not bound by virtue, ethics, morality or anything like that. There are those who, for whatever reason, become (self or otherwise) educated in technical know-how without ever being bothered by things like self reflection, spiritual duty or whatever, and they end up using its techniques for selfish purposes. I'm sure you can think of countless examples of people using (even withholding) information and technology to increase power, profits, control, stature and so on. Magic also does not require any tools or equipment other than a functional human brain being directed by its owner. The baby eaters, if they exist, do that shit because they enjoy it, not because it's "muh key to occult powers" like your average B&H christcuck ameriboomer would have you believe. They are retarded and don't know anything
Oh shit someone that's not just from Reddit or some casual newfag. >The baby eaters, if they exist, do that shit because they enjoy it, not because it's "muh key to occult powers" like your average B&H christcuck ameriboomer would have you believe. They are retarded and don't know anything
This is now the post to beat.
Let me give you a breakdown of what got us to this point, which helps explain what you reference here:
The deluge occurred around 11,000-12,000 years ago. The people from "Atlantis" (don't get caught up on the placeholder name) that survived were tasked with rebuilding. Pockets of civilization survived and quickly turned to "magic" stuff because that's the norm for humans. In their regressed state, they saw cataclysms unfolding and made offerings to Venus, Jupiter and maybe even the Sun, all in an effort to prevent further cataclysms. I don't know why or anything, I just know they did it. Well some of those guys rebuilding stopped at some of these pockets of people and told them to fucking stop because that's not doing anything productive and they corrected them with animal husbandry, herbalism, maths, writing and so on.
It turns out these people continued seeding civilization and gave us practices like Shamanism. This Shamanism concept pervaded the entire planet. Why? Because the idea came from the same group of people who carried over lost knowledge from the Pleistocene.
Some people still practice the ritual(s), but they're just retarded and don't understand they don't need to keep killing babies.
These modern concepts of "Magic" came from these Atlanteans, an ancestor of theirs being Jesus (and many more).
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
how are you so sure that i'm not seetheposting about archangels using me as their punching bag in /r/occult right now????? Also finally sombody who gets the joke. Say it with me HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nice, you actually made me kek
Sure, any interaction requires a trade. But I can understand humans and work with them as equals, I can't do that with some supernatural deity. The first step towards getting involved with that kind of shit is to respect it, and after fully understanding and respecting the consequences I decided that it's just not worth it.
>I can't do that with some supernatural deity
You're right, especially if you never try. >I decided that it's just not worth it.
Be my guest. No one is going to try to get you to crack open a grimoire and learn how to summon some entity or whatever.
But that doesn't mean you should excuse yourself from learning how to grow spiritually.
And, no, going and sitting in a pew for an hour on sundays and listening to some smelly boomer talk about his favorite normalfag stories from a book no one else in the building actually reads is not something that leads to spiritual growth. You actually have to do something.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
So what entities do you claim to be involved with?
I don't follow any religion or spiritual tradition by the way, so your comment assuming that I'm Christian is very American.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I like the Buddhism concept of "all deities are just the a reflection of self", but I haven't worked with any deities yet myself or at least won't invoke them here.
What I will tell you is that his name isn't Kek, but Kekui. >so your comment assuming that I'm Christian is very American
Should I really not just expect people to have mundane spiritual perspectives here? Where is the precedent for that?
Sages? We're talking about rich people. I don't know any sages. They practice whatever they believe in or whatever makes them happy. It doesn't mean that they're right. Everyone's just doing their own thing, but people are inherently also insecure. They have doubts. They question their path in life from time to time and seek something or someone to reaffirm that they haven't strayed from the "right" path, whatever that may be (that in which they believe in). Ultimately it's just a type of mantra and there's no way to confirm who's "right" and who's "wrong". There's always hope. And the more realistic and grounded of the rich seek for methods with which they can extend their lifespans in order to fulfill their goals, whatever those may be. That's my hot take. Wipe your ass with it if you believe that your ideas are right. They aren't.
>So why were/are the greatest sages practicing asceticsm
You're talking about an idolized version of Buddhism that never existed in the past. "Sages" didn't exclusively adhere to ascetic beliefs, they'd adhere to them in times of need.
I'd tell you to read some actual fucking history books, but you seem to lack the skill of discerning truth from fiction and would probably read a passage about fasting and exclaim that people of old didn't need to eat.
You worship false idols.
Start worshipping yourself instead.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>muh i know exactly who you are and what you do >le unironic epic 14 year old hot take
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
You are acting like a twelve-year-old.
Behave yourself, fool.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I did not ask for a Netherlands Civl War
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Let me answer your question, then;
Why do the rich and powerful dabble in esoteric matters? Because it works.
Allow me to give you some unsolicited advice: the world bends to those that do not believe in absolutes.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Why do the rich and powerful dabble in esoteric matters? Because it works.
Not good enough if what I learned this week is true.
wrong, asceticism is practiced by those who wish to challenge their construction and is an exercise of the will for the purposes of identification and juxtaposition. This then includes any mystery teaching both exoteric and esoteric, and thus every religion and tradition has an ascetic practice. Of course if you solely focus on materialism, then you come to the absurd conclusion that one would only do this in times of privation (read: you’re a retarded rock)
All the money and shitty blood and sex magic can’t buy brain cells. Kabbalah is for subhuman retards that want to understand the world. Their magic can only be used against npc’s, which is utterly pointless. When you are truly enlightened you can control any npc; without needing to do any of that garbage. Their currently goal is to make a child rape & torture assembly line to extract adrenochrome and cum. Your western countries extreme israelite israelite cock chokers are working towards this future.
The truth of the world we live in isn't Abrahamic. There was other great civilizations before us, ayyes exist, other dimensions exist, etc...
Magick isn't fireballs, levitation, and other vidya shit. It's something that you can't understand unless you experience it. You can force things into reality if you know what you are doing
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
naggers in Africa kidnap albino naggers and cook them in a soup because their white skin apparently has some magical properties for cooking up a potion.
The fuck were you expecting? This is who runs the show now.
>The fuck were you expecting? This is who runs the show now.
I guess my frustrations would be alleviated by seeing a more educated American public; but, maybe, it's best not to wake the sleeping giant, intellectually speaking. A new era of American Intellect would be generation alpha educated by zoomers which would arguably be worse than the world we live in now... Imagine hyper-advanced zoomer culture...
I got really into the occult years ago, less out of a desire to do anything occult and more because I found the people involved fascinating.
A good way to explain it is that most occult traditions like Hermeticism and Thelema (if you can call Thelema a tradition, it's not really old enough) is that they're projects to understand the way that human will influences other human beings in ways that are not entirely obvious.
Crowley very famously wrote an explanation of magic in which he described himself using a telephone (a magical device) to call a demon (his editor) and have a change made to his most recent spell (his book) and that this was every bit as magical as throwing fireballs at shit. Magic is about understanding how to affect your will--and what matters is not any real truth about HOW that will gets accomplished, only the fact that it does.
So you might be tempted to believe that these guys don't actually believe in magic, but I very much assure you, they DO believe in it, and not like the secular new-agey shit, they actually believe that they're contacting choronzon to drain their souls into the red chalice and join the guardians of the temple. And the fact is, these ARE the people who run the world, the most serious criticism I could give of them isn't that the magic doesn't work, but that the first thing all of these guys tell us is that nobody who actually got to that point in the emptying of the ego would even care about gay shit like politics or even the material world anymore, yet the whole story of Thelema after Crowley got old was grifters claiming to show great powers (And even convincing the old bloods) turned out to just be total grifters. L. Ron Hubbard convinced one of Crowley's protoges that he was the real deal and robbed him of like 50 billion dollars, it was humiliating guy later got blown up in a lab accident though so of course everyone said "Oh okay maybe Hubbard actually did have magic.
>what matters is not any real truth about HOW that will gets accomplished, only the fact that it does.
It is best to not be a dick about accomplishing your will though.
>guy later got blown up in a lab accident
That was Parsons playing with his rocket stuff, its easy to confuse everyone though because of the fact they all hung around each other at some points
Yes it takes real science to build an airplane, but it also takes real black magic to enslave all of humanity with a debt-based pyramid scheme with the all-seeing-eye on top. And ultimately the impulse and the allowance to build those airplanes comes from the black magic freaks who rule over the occult world of international finance.
I admit "allowance" is maybe not the correct word here. The money, the loans, the impulse to make it possible to build them comes from the top of the pyramid. The black magic freaks own the banks, and through the black magic of fractional reserve banking the airplane comes into existence.
Ask yourself, why did old mr. Bauer have that red shield with the HEXagon on it way back in Frankfurt? The Rothschilds were heavily involved in black magic from the beginning. Ok maybe it all could have happened a different way, but it didn't.
1- define black magic
2- people with more time to waste will get into weird shit no matter what it is specially those that struggle with meaning in life and in death
3- do bees practise black magic?
Well if we look at magic or magick in the most broadest sense it's just about trying to achieve desired results through the conscious application of mental energy, imagination, speech or "spell-casting", ritual, ceremony, or other methods deemed "magical". If those results or the methods used to achieve them are immoral, selfish, or harmful, then it can be called black magic.
Well bees certainly have occult significance. In the Bible there is the famous riddle of Samson: out of the eater, something to eat, out of the strong, something sweet. The answer is a corpse of a lion that had a bees nest and honey inside it. The bees are the israelites, making honey, or making money, the carcass of the lion is the host, in this case the Filistines, or the Palestinians. So perhaps the lion had eaten the bee-hive, and then the bees killed the lion from within, and used the carcass to build their own nest and make their sweet sweet honey. Out of the eater, something to eat, out of the strong, something sweet.
>If those results or the methods used to achieve them are immoral, selfish, or harmful, then it can be called black magic.
This isn't the definition and now you just look dumb.
"Black Magic" is a form of theurgy or practical Magick (ie. petitions, talismans, invocations, sigils and on and on) that has a target of another sentient being with the aim to hinder them, harm them, expose them to trouble or inconvenience, etc. Some people blur the lines and do shit like a "binding", which they argue isn't "Black" because it's "making sure they don't do that to other people", a pretty weaselly way of maneuvering around morality, at least in my opinion.
> I get a lot more out of controlling people than I do with capital.
Ideally, capital should only be regarded as a tool for controlling others and not something to be pursued by itself or for temporary material items like a Lamborghini for example.
Capital is a tool to aquire and expand influence and control, no more no less.
"Money" is a means to tokenize expended energy or conveyed value of a service rendered. There's another class there, which deals with risking that tokenized energy to leverage economic syntheses of varying kinds. This concept of "influence" exertion seems misguided. It makes more sense to frame it as a way to exchange your tokenized expended energy.
>crowley was gay homosexual
yeah I feel like Crowley hoodwinked a whole generation. Based?
Not at all. He was demonized because normalfags didn't understand he was doing the exact thing we do to newfags all of the time, like when we gorepost or do obscene things to get them to leave.
Do you know much about the Cynics and their information "marketing" strategies? Diogenes was famous for drawing attention of onlookers by shitting and masturbating in front of people in very public places. But what he did afterward is what was important - he shattered their overton windows. This gave civilization a new direction to head in.
To illustrate this further Alexander was fascinated by him and Diogenes treated him like some annoying kid that's just bothering him. Why? Because Diogenes learned to abandon society's rulers. They treated him like a slob for it, calling him a dog. He was anything but a beast though - he was the opposite, a free man, no longer weighed down by the shackles of conformity.
This is what Crowley did.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
This is a good post. I haven't read all of your posts, but you know your alchemy. What I'm curious about, is to what extent even the historical context you provide, has been fabricated as yet another layer of the magic used by the influencers (I don't like the words "elite," "controllers," or "TPTB" since I hesitate to believe that they have actual power as opposed to formidable influence). Suppose, for instance, that our written histories and the figures present in those histories are largely fabrications (Alexander the Great and Diogenes, for example) or exagerations. That would certainly add more complexity to removing the veil insofar as the programming/influencing of the masses is concerned. Maybe it wouldn't. I'm just throwing ideas at keyboard here.
Anyways, for any other anons interested in the subject matter, I would recommend studying the subject of money as mentioned by this burgerposter. I think it's a good foothold into the study of alchemical interactions.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
History will always be a flimsy premise. You can know what’s real by what can be experienced first-hand. Magic is real, demonic or not, as folks alive today still use it to their advantage. Salvation is also real, as folks alive today still speak with the Lord, and His miracles still happen. You are living through much the same story that your ancestors did, only the context has changed.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Good post. You're not wrong imo.
Nicely done, anon. Many people think Germaine, Pythagoras, Socrates, Jesus and way more enigmatic figures of history are actually just made up or at the very least modeled after a much more mundane figure. Socrates is a great example, as I'm pretty fond of the theory that Plato just made him up to teach what he had learned in Egypt. >the subject of money as mentioned by this burgerposter
I'm always surprised when I see you guys apparently admitting that you've never thought of "money" as an energy currency before. It seems pretty transparently to me to be a pretty alchemical concept.
Thanks for the reply and the kind words. I agree with you on the concept of money. I must admit that before the veil had begun to be lifted I was what can only be described as oblivious to the nature of money, but now that I see it, I find myself struggling to even remember what it felt like to be oblivious to something so glaringly obvious.
The truth is once you reach the top of the pyramid (whatever domain), things become weird from a statistical perspective as you leave maxwell boltzman statistics and enter bose-enstein statistics. Numerology, alchemy, etc, are just ways identities get entangled. What money brings is fungibility, in other words indistinguishability.
> high iq post: 120 + 80 points for vision – and this is exactly what these phenomenon bring
>What money brings is fungibility, in other words indistinguishability.
This is very profound; an incredible way to put it.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Nicely done, anon. Many people think Germaine, Pythagoras, Socrates, Jesus and way more enigmatic figures of history are actually just made up or at the very least modeled after a much more mundane figure. Socrates is a great example, as I'm pretty fond of the theory that Plato just made him up to teach what he had learned in Egypt. >the subject of money as mentioned by this burgerposter
I'm always surprised when I see you guys apparently admitting that you've never thought of "money" as an energy currency before. It seems pretty transparently to me to be a pretty alchemical concept.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
The truth is once you reach the top of the pyramid (whatever domain), things become weird from a statistical perspective as you leave maxwell boltzman statistics and enter bose-enstein statistics. Numerology, alchemy, etc, are just ways identities get entangled. What money brings is fungibility, in other words indistinguishability.
>your gay plasma/blood transfusion bullshi
Do tell I have heard about the origins of "Young Blood"
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Plasma transfusion regenerates body, that's it. I don't remember the name of that pretentious homosexual, Brian Johnson iirc, check him out on twitter, he is doind that exact bulsshit. And these gay masonic larpers posting bees like an allusion to plasma and pretend they deeply into great secrets and shit. This stuff has been around since Bathory times.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Plasma transfusion regenerates body, that's it
okay we make synthetic blood that's even better than human blood?>
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Idc tbh, just funny to see these pretentious homosexuals bee larpers.
At least you're sort of aligning more properly than others, but I'm not big on the dualism myself. The Rothschilds are also our foil, which they've plainly admitted. Surely they don't want to see themselves as our permanent "stewards" (what they think, not me necessarily). But I'm not really defending them here.
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with the hexagram, as "israelites" (and Khazarians alike) just borrowed that from other people. Unlike others, they also claimed it was theirs all along, no one taught them and that they're "god's chosen lmao", which is ludicrous. Instead, Saturn is important for a variety of traditions and for many different reasons. I wouldn't jump the gun here and say "Saturn is evil!" Instead, it's way more mature to just except that Saturn is "in charge" here and work with him. He just wants you to be a better person, like a stern father when you're a toddler. Frankly, loads of people act like toddlers about this subject, bitching about the referee instead of just playing the game.
Your forgetting to mention all the behavioral manipulation that gets down through media and pop culture. The broad casting of certain "spells" meant to manipulate human behavior through media is technically black magic.
Fun fact: MKULTRA is technically considered to be black magic too
it makes life more interesting if there is some "secret" world that only the "elite" are a part of
but just like in eyes wide shut its just larping that rich fags do and then have giant orgies with each other so they all have blackmail on everyone else.
and retards like it because they like to think that stuff is going on even tho they never participate in them
The astrology or w/e of planets matter very much since they change pulls and currents or something. However, if an individual is strong enough they can swim against a current, correct? It's why it's best to just focus on the self within and without. Soul, body, and mind.
Algol, in astrological lore is considered an extremely evil and deleterious star but when comes to magic it has the quality to propitiate the confection of protective talismans and other items, considered on of the best energies agaisnt both physical and spiritual harm.
I did not know that. I'll look up more of Algol cause I'm kind of interested in it now. Whatever symbol was on the shield must've had some very fortunate and protective qualities. I always figured it would be whatever was on Solomons ring.
Once you realise that this universe has distinct rules you realise all this materialistic shit is meaningless and the real power resides in the metaphysical control of other metaphysical concepts like a soul etc etc etc etc. It just takes these people getting everything they could ever gain in the material to realise this truth. I get a lot more out of controlling people than I do with capital.
>the real power resides in the metaphysical control of other metaphysical concepts like a soul
yes but why am I sexually attracted to planes doctor. Why is it involuntary. Am I some air force lab rat?
>No just an autist who is into planes over trains.
planes are obviously cooler?!? wtf is wrong with that brit train tik toker who met the prince. FUCK TRAINS
> I get a lot more out of controlling people than I do with capital.
Ideally, capital should only be regarded as a tool for controlling others and not something to be pursued by itself or for temporary material items like a Lamborghini for example.
Capital is a tool to aquire and expand influence and control, no more no less.
Despite all the money rich remain human, they lack something and try to compensate via occult. Fools just get there by chance. However Fools are more dangerous, since their beliefs are sincere
Both do it to feel better than average person, poor because they have nothing else and rich because they have enough money that they can waste it on shit that's unlikely to work
they aren't real people, basically. god uses symbolism to tell us this. he dresses up famous people with at shirts wearing goats. its pretty stupid, but he does do this and its probably worth realizing. hes controlling them himself, lol.
My understanding is a lot of people are drawn to science initially to explain god. Some find a fire and they just can't stop looking. It becomes an addiction to look for god.
its called "chings secret" because its a secret and you aren't suppose to tell people about it. all the products with funny UPC codes like this have ironic names and cool bible pictures on the packaging. i'm breaking all the rules by telling you this. go back to sleep.
they bored and also need to separate themselves from everyone else, who they see as sheep of which they're mostly right about but they're not much better with the dumbshit they go for themselves.
Why do retards assume the "occult"a automatically means black magic, anything thats not mainstream is occult. Anyway I've come to realize that 1. The Aether is real 2. Humans have a vital and pyschical force.
Modern Science and Big Religion are two sides of the same coins here to keep the general masses at bay. Oh and the earth is hollow
Parable of the camel and the needle's eye, the rich can't get into heaven because are cursed, weak, not physically fit, they should be lifting weights instead.
The rich: because it was passed down to them and the demonic activity in their bloodlines likely led to their riches in the first place
The stupid: they want to be the rich
because you've decided to take the path of what mark passio calls the de-occultist and have rejected the left hand path because you care about others and you want to instill goodness in them and give them the moral compass they so desperately lack on account of living in upside down clown world. i don't like the NPC take, i don't call people hylics. i choose to assert that everyone and everything is an aspect of the divine that resides within all of creation. this domain includes animals, plants, and even minerals which i hold to be conscious living entities. remember the parable of the girl on the beach throwing starfish back into the ocean. she knows whe can't save them all, but it was worth it to save even just one. i know this sounds cringe and Oprah tier but really it's Christ tier thinking. yes, he warned us not to cast pearls before swine, but he also gave everyone a very good friendly reminder and then dropped the mic so as to not belabor the point to those without ears to hear.
Because they realize Ahriman has led them astray, so they open their eyes to the spiritual. It's the only choice you can make at that point else you will be trapped in creature comforts forever.
Everyone turns to the occult, except midwits. Even they have some idea of why the occult is important, from a sociological perspective, so I think maybe you're not old enough to really have considered it for yourself.
Yes, but way more than just Datura. Cannabis seems to be one of the most popular methods, especially these days.
Maybe they're rich because they turned to the occult.
Do you guys want a little help?
You don't read a few books and understand the practical side of things and suddenly wake up one day with a porsche in the driveway. Instead, your goal is to be presented with more opportunities to make money.
The goal is about guiding intention and focusing on a goal and then letting everything else fall into place to catalyze that goal. So you set up your aim and then take actions through every day with that goal in mind to see it come to reality.
There's no real shortcut, even with "magick". You learn very quickly (or should) that "give me a million dollars, le god" either doesn't work or, if it does work, you'll have serious, unintended consequences.
They say "magick always finds the path of least resistance". That idea has loads of implications.
I don't really believe in this stuff, but even if I did I would have absolutely no interest in getting involved in it.
It's well known within those circles that dealing with any kind of god requires a trade. I'm perfectly happy going through things the hard way rather than dealing with the side-effects of getting involved in shit that I can't comprehend or control.
>dealing with any kind of god requires a trade. >any kind of god
You seem like a shut in, anon. You mean to tell me you don't feel that way about most people? What precedent in your life established this idea for you? Are you seriously surrounded by extremely unselfish people? I'm hesitant to believe you if so. >I'm perfectly happy going through things the hard way rather than dealing with the side-effects of getting involved in shit that I can't comprehend or control.
This is exactly my problem with gatekeepers. None of you should feel this way. "Magic" used to be an integral aspect of daily human life.
The Catholics ruined everything.
History will always be a flimsy premise. You can know what’s real by what can be experienced first-hand. Magic is real, demonic or not, as folks alive today still use it to their advantage. Salvation is also real, as folks alive today still speak with the Lord, and His miracles still happen. You are living through much the same story that your ancestors did, only the context has changed.
>demonic or not
I urge you to learn the etymology of the word.
Again, Catholics ruined everything (not the clergy since there's no sense blaming the normalfags for being stupid by default).
Sure, any interaction requires a trade. But I can understand humans and work with them as equals, I can't do that with some supernatural deity. The first step towards getting involved with that kind of shit is to respect it, and after fully understanding and respecting the consequences I decided that it's just not worth it.
>doesn't make a 747 fly across
wrong. you make create anything with enough meditation and energy vibration via contacting high masters.
all you need is love since we live in simulation, sky is a hologram and moon is a fake evil satellite used by archons to block unity of az/we/wuz.
The material eclipses the spiritual, people who are satisfied with life don't seek out egregious excess and the exploitation this requires.
When you get right with God, you are glad to even be alive, let alone have food, water, shelter, and so on. God is love, to love and be loved is to dwell in God and have God within you.
You also realize that it is more important to store treasures in Heaven by giving to the poor instead of storing treasures on Earth that you will ultimately lose.
Magic is hypnosis, rituals and occult believes help you to change your perceptions of the events wich lead you to change your behaviour wich will change the outcome of your actions.
> Want money >Do money ritual >Now my mind is focus on money, i'm seeing more things about money, learn about money, see more opportunities. >I think i'm backed by magic so I will act bolder than usual.
Due to all the points above you have a good chance to make some money and if you can make money of something once, you can probably make more.
>Positive reinforcement >Learn more, see more opportunities, act even bolder, get more money. >Magic works guys !
The rituals and symbols are just there to soften your defense mecanisms and make you more vulnerable to suggestions.
Then you reshape the worldview of the person (yourself or others) by the same means as in classical hypnosis or in a marketing campaign.
If you have ever stopped smoking, drinking or doing drugs you will know what I mean.
>It's not good it destroys myself.
It's your switch of perception wich lead to :
> I want to stop
Then you try to change how you act. Same mechanism.
For the same reason you look to science brainlet >doesn’t make a 747 fly
Yeah you probably don’t understand how planes fly either. Somebody told you some basic explanation and you just accepted it as reality. God I fucking hate you all. Planes aren’t even real.
Occult doesn't automatically mean black magic, anon. It means "hidden".
Black magic is a specific type of occult practice and it appeals to people who feel weak and insignificant mostly. But also people who are just downright evil to begin with.
It's perfectly possible to be an occultist/witch and never use "black magic". It's also possible to use black magic on occasion for a specific task, ie, cursing someone who deserves it, and then go right back to "light magic".
Because God/Jesus/Holy Spirit are super fucking real and those people you mentioned are on the other team. Same reason why Jeffrey Epstein had an upside down cross directly across from his sex sofa.
hedonistic treadmill taken to its logical extreme. eventually you will get bored. and start taking a darker path just to make things exciting again.
>hedonistic treadmill
but if you understand this concept you can counter it??/?
be content with what you have and learn to be greatful for little things. impossible to do for rich pedos who have everything in the world, which is why they're doomed, but not as impossible for you or me :^)
Understanding is only as good as the amount it leads to action. Many addicts understand their addicted yet are in grips with their sin the hedonistic treadmill has a way of possesing the indivual overtime.
>Understanding is only as good as the amount it leads to action
Says you I am just a comfy knower fat pig!
wrong homosexual. it because satan exist and people try to borrow the power of demons for their sins.
>borrow the power of demons for their sins.
people are really that fucking stupid. Astonishing. Absolutely flabbergasting. uh huh muh sin muh power muh demons holy shit my f
kys kike. you use midwit ideas to explain away obvious signs of satan. you know what midwit ideas are? kike logic.
It's funny seeing people that have never studied occultism talking like they know about it in this thread. The teachings are just a collection of logical aphorisms about the way reality seems to work, and how to use it to make your life better.
>The teachings are just a collection of logical aphorisms about the way reality seems to work, and how to use it to make your life better.
Nice bait.
>He has never read the Kybalion
funny you should post this, because i was about to. it's actually much worse than the meme suggests. me, being curious and an occult literature enjoyer, i read through everything listed over the last couple years. even the material in the list itself is 99% woo woo bologna. it's gets incredibly gay and magickal larpy throughout much of it. furthermore, the kybalion itself is wrong, seemingly unaware of the concept of non-duality by it's own definitions. occultism is the big gay, and to answer OP's question, it's for people who couldn't cut it in school, people who were filtered by the physical sciences. this is their cope. that nagger franz bardon says so much outrageous crap like how to levitate and believing in ouija boards unironically. if it's answers you're looking for maybe let's put the weed down for a moment and then try heidegger, kant, leibnitz and geunon instead of this cringe. spoiler: we don't know all the answers, we literally cannot even begin to comprehend anything which lies beyond the sum of all phenomena. there is no such thing as a trancendental experience, because even that exists within the realm of phenomena. like duh BONK 5head
Lol ok bro. Name a process or an emotion that doesn't have duality/rhythm given enough time.
Also if you have suggestions for any specific books by these authors I'd love to read it.
I'm actually almost done with the arcane books in that list and it has helped me manage my mental health better.
The only thing we can really know for sure is that whoever controls your eyeballs, controls your mind, and the best we can do is pick up breadcrumbs that give us some kind of meaning.
>any specific books
"Hands On Chaos Magic - Reality Manipulation Through The Ovayki Current" is very direct and cuts a lot of the larpiness out of magic and gets straight to the point on many things
Temperature, for example hot vs. cold. There's no real distinction here, temperature itself is one discrete thing with varying degrees along a unified spectrum. Then we must consider what temperature actually is, which is ultimately a function of potential energy being manifested as motion. The same goes for ideals, such as what we consider to be good vs. evil. Evil per se does not exist, it's just a variation of the ultimate and perfect form of goodness or that which we call God. You can work your way through everything in this manner, since from an ontological perspective you will arrive at the ultimate reality which contains all of everything, and within this context this thing in and of itself is perfectly uniform because it is eternity, infinity. I don't mean to come down so hard on the occult, it has also helped me in a lot of ways, but then i went down the more academic philosophy route and sadly they won. sadly kant was right with his critique of pure reason, but it totally kills the fun and the appeal of delving in to the more esoteric material, since the answer is already spoiled. i would almost suggest not reading it or be defiant towards it. i still like to ponder the true nature of God even though I know we're incapable.
you're compartmentalizing and categorizing differentiations from a limited human perspective. yes, the dualistic perspective dates back to the dawn of time or the dawn of cause and effect, but had you considered the realm that lies beyond or before this initial cause and effect? maybe not everything works like this, maybe there's just infinity. everything else is contained within this larger realm and is instrinsically linked to the whole. you gotta zoom out and take a good look at the ALL that hermeticists love so dearly. They got very close to the mark with the whole bit about 'the one is in the all but the one is not the all' but they just barely missed it. the one IS the ALL, and it's you and that's awesome.
>temperature itself is one discrete thing with varying degrees along a unified spectrum
OK this line of logic gets one thing right, that most values are better modeled as gradients than as binaries, but it gets the next part wrong when it can't recognize that two different points on a gradient have RELATIVE DIFFERENCES.
So good and evil do exist, but always in relation to a vantage point of perspective of the criteria used to judge the two choices.
correct, and it just so happens we have the ultimate criteria, the unit of measure against which all others are measured, this of course being the end member of all possible perfections, also known as the one and only God Almighty Himself.
correct.
As you have judged, so you will be judged.
The rod you have held to others will be held to you.
I believe there is another quote in the Koran, along the lines of: israelites, Christians and Muslims - each will be judged according to their religion.
there's something to be said of the plethora of near death experience reports that mention the 'life review'. for those who don't know, the gist of it is that when you first enter the spirit realm after death, you view a playback reel of your entire life. it's like a movie, but you can feel it. you can feel all the pain that you caused to others. that troll post you posted, i'm sorry anons, but you're gonna atone for that one. you're gonna atone for all of them. there's a reason for this. you're still not fully attuned, you're carrying mortal baggage. this will need to be purged before you can enter back into the light. the light itself does not contain any corruption, so before you can achieve unity with the source you'll need to process the lessons you learned on your last hardcore speed run, and deposit them onto the fractal matrix aether, ever expaning into the primordial chaos.
Lol, lmao even.
Logical impossibility, an omnipotent being is not justified in judging anyone.
he's right and he's wrong. remember the ontological perspective that you're dealing with literal perfection. heidegger's autism might refer to this as pre-ontological. it has access to the end members of every possible gradient. it has the capacity for perfect unconditional love, because that's what it is. it also emerged out of chaos, meaning it is infinite potential energy or the sum of all possibilities. one of these possibilities could be the entity being described here. i'd hardly call it a childlike perspective, it can be viewed as a logical emergence or emanation as described by the neoplatonics, everything eventually returning to the source along the path of a torus, this being the path of least resistance, as reflected by patterns observed in nature.
oof this is the wrong takeaway without any question at all.
Dualism is for normalfags.
No shit. Oldfags used to get into this shit all of the time. The newfags ruined this place by never letting go of muh israelites instead of actually reading a book and posting loads of bible verses like they think someone is going to upvote them for farming consensus.
>left hand path
Anon, it just means heterodox instead of orthodox. Whoever has convinced you, Passio, Cooper and all of the other LARPers who don't actually read books is duping you. You got played. That's not what the word means.
This is a plot by orthodox naggers who want to gatekeep spirituality in telling them "if you don't follow all of our faggy, arbitrary rules, you're le devil lol". They're robbing you of the liberty to lead your own path.
Some people say Persia and some people say Egypt. Who cares where it came from? All that matters is "the israelites did it first" is obviously complete bullshit.
We have these threads somewhat regularly these days. The issue is too many newfags infest these threads with shitposts and gatekeeping. There's layers upon layers of back and forth methodology at play in these threads and part of it is about gatekeeping, part of it is about warring Mysticism factions, then there's a whole other part where you have to effortpost and lecture newfags to socialize them so they don't just fucking ruin the website.
It's the most stimulating thing /misc/ has done in a while, but it also kicks up the most dirt and makes people sperg the most.
That’s a good thing innit? The amazing thing about humans is we have an ability to stop being chaff and start being wheat. The old redpill generals of the pre-Trump years were much the same. The dumbass shitposters who used to infest those threads have now grown into the thoughtful contributors to these threads.
I guess that makes me a testament to this theory then.
my brother in memes if you are seeing thoughtful contributors on /misc/ you must be hallucinating. /misc/s popular conceptions of basically anything anything are piss poor, even basic things like what kind of nutrition an average person needs lmao. Spirituality especially. Nobody has ever -learned- about these topics on LULZ. They learned somwhere else and got called a israelite or shill when posting about it here, before drowning in the sea of shitposting again. Take my advice anons: stop caring about politics RIGHT NOW. DEAD END AHEAD, turn back now. God doesn't like to spill so why would he pour into a glass that (thinks it) is already full. I just unvealed the great mystery right here, you now have what it takes to experience that tradition which Freemasonry was meant to preserve. Watch how niggas will call it fake and gay
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Freemasonry was built to preserve the same “mystery” that the Tibetan Buddhists practice, the cultivation of an electric double in which your ghosts can persist past the bodily death. They claim it’s “immortality,” it’s not. A passing thing cannot forever remain. If your “immortality” requires a constant input of external energy, you’d better bet that’ll run out soon enough, and you’ll face the same fate as the rest of the dead. Only at the end of days will the Masons et. al. realize their folly
How do you suppose becoming immortal works? You get a test from god?
No, you convince Him to resurrect you through your faith and works. It’s entirely His decision who He wants to bring back. So, best be on His good side, so to speak.
Immortality is literally just having children, anon.
The "Mystery" that Masons were preserving was the Middle Path that leads to Kether and the Christ, the Holy Fool or Child. It's about "Squaring the Circle".
> Freemasonry was built to preserve the same “mystery” that the Tibetan Buddhists practice
agree to an extent
> the cultivation of an electric double in which your ghosts can persist past the bodily death
I completely disagree, sorry, what you describe here is simply not compatible with any current of Buddhism at all. Nor is it in buddhism. It's really that simple, anon. It's all about falling deeply in love with capital G God and saying "less of me, and more of you". Christian ameriboomers can't entertain such a notion at all, let alone the fact that others are doing a better job at "it" than they are lmao. They will say it's of the devil, when really they advocate the very same teaching every time they say "Christ is King" lmao
>Immortality is literally just having children, anon
based, i tend to agree, although we could also agree that the great sages of history have become invincible through their good works. Do good in the world and you will have many children without ever laying two inches of pipe
> nor is it in buddhism
*in masonry
>Do good in the world and you will have many children without ever laying two inches of pipe
There's another element to this which deals with "dying" (ego) yourself and becoming a new version of (You) and there's also Autogenesis, which I guess is supposed to be a thing women can do, but there are other implications like what I suggested.
Anyway, the way that Egyptians and other ancients lived for thousands of years or something (a topic commonly discussed when one brings up immortality) is also easily explained: they had kids and their kids "remembered their past lives" which was their fathers' lives, their grandfathers' lives and so on. They weren't actually living in the same body forever, they were just tapping the genetic memory of the bloodline. It wasn't the same person it was just Rameses 1, then 2, then 3 and so on. This is your ancient "immortality".
>another element to this which deals with "dying" (ego) yourself and becoming a new version of (You)
THat's what i've been harping on about non stop in this thread atleast the last few posts
You can barely write English sentences.
Even all physical matter and radiation has duality.
Because all these things have vibration. And vibration is rhythm, and rhythm is duality.
And this is actually backed up by physical sciences.
Even a particle at absolute zero has the potential to heat up again, thus it has dualness.
You're leaving out the part where this duality gets reconciled from within the source it springs forth from in the first place
I can really tell you're not well-versed in this stuff at all
What you dont like magnetic soup magic bro? Also sorry sweaty, the kybalion mightve been written by a retarded charlatan, it seems like he had a bright moment and it's unironically recommended by most as first look into principles of Hermetic Qabalah of all things. And it's nothing too surprising either because most of the principles are in fact found even in the Tree of Life. There's people who speculated that PFC had something to do with it, it's that "good". Though it's also one of the most overblown and least understood meme texts
You're making so many people seethe right now.
>muh normalfags mustn't know what I know so I can maintain leverage!
Look, someone even beat me to it
>i-it's not real
>y-yeah, no one read any of this because it's stupid and dumb and you won't like it
>now go masturbate to BBC porn instead lol
The path of visualizing a better future and thinking positively thoughts of health, wealth, love, and success? That is the occult.
No, you just go
>deeper
But it does give you the knowledge to build a 747
If streetshitters can handle it (almost), it's not worth knowing.
A wish is not necessary nagger magic. If I say and believe the world in peace and harmony, it doesn't make it that way. Knowledge isn't power of the will.
>But it does give you the knowledge to build a 747
No, but esoteric autism does.
It's been going on for thousands of years. Mystery religion in ancient Greece. Kaballa. The sex magic bullshit. Scientology.
I think it works because no outsiders can imagine a whole cult is falling for bullshit and nonsense.
Rich people get sucked into those scams as.much as anyone else. It's not like having money means anything about an individuals wisdom or intelligence even
Madam Blavatsky for example was a thoroughly debunked scammer but the "Lucis Trust" is still involved with the UN.
This is an opinion that I can imagine someone coming up with if they want an excuse not to study any occult/spiritual material and remain in their comfy atheist world. It’s not an opinion that you’d be holding if you spent any amount of time looking into it
blavatsky is too high IQ for retards like you. Maybe 1% of the global population wont get filtered by the secret doctrine, you are like a child trying to read a book on advanced calculus and calling it all fake because you cant understand it
too high IQ, yet still too dumb enough to find Christ
is actually on to something
Anon, you realize most of the Theosophy world, along with basically everyone else, had a largely congealed opinion of the Christ, right? Christian Mystics like Eckhart, Bohme, Swedenborg and Steiner were huge influences to people like Blavatsky. You should just read the material.
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic
no but it seemed to help Jack Parsons kickstart the military industrial complex
>Jack Parsons
oh shit "digits" is just old school kabbalistic numerology worship!.
and the Wright brothers were Vanderbilts
maybe black magic does fly planes after all
>help Jack Parsons kickstart the military industrial complex
Certainly helps me invent all sorts of crazy shit...
COBALT POSEIDON
Whoa, where have you been
He's here all the time, anon. Namefags gonna namefag.
This one could be worse though.
Humans always loved making money from war. Wether it be by looting or making equipment.
It gives you power. Thats why no matter how much evil they do nothing ever happens to them. Magic is real.
It also helped the Rothschild family take over the world. See the first Rothschild, Mayer Amschel Bauer who took on the name Rothschild from the family crest, a red shield. Some say there used to be a symbol on the red shield. A star of some type. I believe this symbol was what gave him his power.
Interesting.
Algol, in astrological lore is considered an extremely evil and deleterious star but when comes to magic it has the quality to propitiate the confection of protective talismans and other items, considered on of the best energies agaisnt both physical and spiritual harm.
Read “Judaism’s Strange gods” by Michael A. Hoffman II
You will understand that black magic and other astrological occult bullshit literally originated from israeli Qabbalah.
The rich and famous turn to this shit because israelites have the money
>The rich and famous turn to this shit because israelites have the money
like moths to a flame
Blatantly false, magic as we know it owes pretty much everything to the Chaldeans, especially astrology
Kabbalah is not anything more than Chaldean (subtext: Akkadian) religion, only they don’t quite personify the gods in the same way, instead they call them Sephirot to denote that they’re a part of the godhead and not independent actors. Every other aspect of Kabbalah comes straight from Chaldea part-and-parcel. They brought it back after the Babylonian captivity and formed a new priestly class called Pharisees to protect it.
I will just continue to read actual source texts and make my conclusions from that rather than christcuck misunderstandings.
I'd say a lot of them didn't realize what they were getting into until they already held sway over them.
wrong on all counts, retard. the israelites have never come up with anything original
Rasputin... Another one of those scammers. Suckered in the whole Russian royal family. They should have known better. Royalty is a big scam too.
The old tranny Chan of Brazil had a story about a Guy who got into the left hand Path secret society
He got FUCKED
They make hell on earth
They are real
They are chaotic
screencap pls
>normalfags display their gross lack of understanding of basic terms
That concept doesn't mean what you think it means.
>left hand Path secret society
topkek
>the left hand path society
Kek sometimes I love how gullible the non-occultists are around spooky terms they don’t recognize.
Left hand path is a broad category, and nobody really agrees on what makes one tradition left hand or right hand. It started out in the Theosophy days, with love-and-light hippies who liked the transcendent “all is one” bullshit of mainstream anglicized forms of Buddhism and Hinduism, while labeling all the spooky tantric schools that used sex and drugs as “left hand”. Then Satanists started using “left hand” to mean “free will and being based and redpilled”
Depending on who you ask, Evola, Crowley, Christ and Buddha can all be considered left hand or right hand.
There certainly is no one group called “the left hand path” that would be like a secret society of high level democrats called “the liberals”
Oh hell yeah baby its another one of these HAHAHAHAHHAHA i cant wait for the blood and honor boomers to show up and teach us about kabbalah and mysticism. Oh boomer where art thou? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>kabbalah and mysticism
science and chemistry are purer veins of intellect but clearly this is about spooky dress up time. Better than Mega Sports hysteria I suppose.
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
>John Whiteside Parsons (born Marvel Whiteside Parsons;[nb 1] October 2, 1914 – June 17, 1952) was an American rocket engineer, chemist, and Thelemite occultist. Associated with the California Institute of Technology (Caltech), Parsons was one of the principal founders of both the Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and the Aerojet Engineering Corporation. He invented the first rocket engine to use a castable, composite rocket propellant,[1] and pioneered the advancement of both liquid-fuel and solid-fuel rockets.
>Following some brief involvement with Marxism in 1939, Parsons converted to Thelema, the new religious movement founded by the English occultist Aleister Crowley. Together with his first wife, Helen Northrup, Parsons joined the Agape Lodge, the Californian branch of the Thelemite Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) in 1941. At Crowley's bidding, Parsons replaced Wilfred Talbot Smith as its leader in 1942 and ran the Lodge from his mansion on Orange Grove Boulevard.
>Helen Northrup
can't help but wonder if there's a Northrop Grumman connection there
post the part where they split up because crowley was gay homosexual
>crowley was gay homosexual
yeah I feel like Crowley hoodwinked a whole generation. Based?
>hoodwinked
everyone knew he was gay, and a traitor, but then again being one meant being the other back then, read degenerate moderns
You're saying that was Spare? I'm pretty sure that was Parson though.
that was AOS but Agape lodge went to complete shit and WT Smith should've remained in charge. JP left the OTO a couple of years before blowing himself up though
>he doesn't know of the airliner shamans hidden under airports
But you could kill your enemies while they sleep …
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic.
Oh really?
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/no-one-can-explain-why-planes-stay-in-the-air/
it gets even more crazier mate....
They don't believe in any karma or afterlife. Normal entertainment and hobbies are not enough to satisfy the rich. That's why they turn to having sex with, murdering and eating children.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA right on cue
> mysticism is not actuall about stuff like meditating to become more altruistic
> no its about child sacrifice
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is nothing to do with the occult that is just Judaism and Islam.
They use these methods because they work, whether it is a placebo or actual unseen forces doesn't matter.
>They use these methods because they work
To what end? The World is increasingly destabilizing///
That's their plan, anon.
And it's working, very well.
Just not for you and I.
But it is working.
Christianity is dead, people are sick of 'israelites' vs Muslims. Once people are completely disillusioned with religion they will offer the alternative.
Powers and forces that are greater than “them” are causing the destabilising. They are but pieces.
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
it absolutely does. you just don't conceptualize how a and b are related.
Kabbalah and hermeneutics are simply tautologies that affirm the aptly named magical thinking which justifies to rich people (a class that can categorically be described as penultimate midwits) why they were both lucky and justifies the luck. Midwits hate luck because they are egocentric, so anything that explains this luck is weighed favorably.
>Kabbalah and hermeneutics are simply tautologies that affirm the aptly named magical thinking
I'm not really expecting a better take on this in the thread, but I'm also not hardly surprised that no one understands what psi research is, that it's been ongoing for around a century now and that its regular breach of 6σ standards isn't just world changing but a concentrated and clear confirmation that this isn't just woo-woo bullshit that's made up.
While you don't actually seem to understand what Christianity was or what it iterated, this is a decent description that breaks down Suggestion and that's about it. If everyone wasn't so lazy and would actually just read some Plato or Aristotle, they'd already understand that Mentalism is pretty integral to modern life.
Hell, normalfags don't even know what we're all doing right now with these machines that help us scry.
Why is kabbalah hard to understand? It almost seems like bullshit
it's just the story of 3 7 and 12 anon, nothing difficult about it HAHAHAHAHAH
Humans spiritually crave conflict and tradition. Occultism is tradition, but it's safe for the heckin' wholesome 100 rebels who hate their country and organized religion.
>hah, these people who own the world have no clue!
This was said with a straight face, mind.
>who own the world have no clue!
People who own the world differentiates from People who run the world, spaintard
You know, I used to be atheist too.
Until I saw things.
>Muh Christian religion
I guess this is what made you retarded?
>>Muh Christian religion
>I guess this is what made you retarded?
I never said that.
It's essentially gatekeeping.
By feeding Christian larp to the people, which forbids essentially everything, you keep people ignorant.
Anyone can benefit, and even food companies make good use of sensible occultism. Ever seen a bag of Cheetos saying they're delicious? Yep, simple trick that makes them tastier, and now that you know, think cig box messages... Ever seen a prediction that cancer is on the rise?
Kid, like a damn fiddle...
>Ever seen a bag of Cheetos saying they're delicious? Yep, simple trick that makes them tastier, and now that you know,
That is very basic stuff anon.
no human is infallible, and a trust fund baby indulging in satanic rituals doesnt increase his estate only his sins
you are afraid of your own feelings and knowing both the insights of your own soul and the forces that interact with it
>you are afraid of your own feelings and knowing both the insights of your own soul and the forces that interact with it
based
Did it ever cross your mind that the cargocult running this show has wasted centuries shaping the masses in its image: histrionic, LARPing turbo homosexuals chasing dragons?
Did it ever cross your mind that the most proficient liars may just be the people who don't know that they are lying? Ponder all the falsehood you've been taught throughout your life and how many of them you've regurgitated with unwavering confidence and zeal, until you've learned the error of your ways.
Did it every cross your mind that the propaganda may not actually be directed at the general masses, but at the cargocultists? Ponder the behaviour of the masses, they always side with the victors, no matter what.
If the cargocult starts to doubt, i.e. divert from the manta of "all is going according to plan" and if you, genuine anons, stop believing them omnipotent, omniscient and infallible, they may just ... well, stop being omnipotent, omniscient and infallible. How do you ever hope to spot a mistake of your opponent, if you consider him infallible?
Just how many times has /misc/ in particular helped crowdsource a retcon for this cargocult? Some goes terribly wrong and about a million anons jump through whatever hoops necessary to explain it away and pat the cargocult's back.
As we recounted previously, "the cargo cult" isn't bad or anything. Instead, it's the pervasive symbolism and architecture that animates modern spiritual/religious concepts. There isn't one big hegemony of "the cargo cult" and this phrasing makes it seem like you're not very fluent in English despite trying to be.
Or are you speaking to a particular part of "the cargo cult"? Because that seems way more reasonable. But you just blaming everything on and ambiguously pointing fingers at "the cargo cult" just makes it seem like you don't understand what you're saying.
The whole idea of it is similar to speed running glitching BS where you do some arbitrary things to mess with the world's RNG to work in your advantage. Although it's kinda fumb
Because there's nothing else. Why do you strive for money? Because you're poor or if not, merely not filthy rich. You could be richer, right? So you look toward material gain. You look toward experiencing all of the worldly pleasures.
But these people already experienced all of that.
Mansions? Check.
Luxury vehicles? Check.
Yachts and jets? Check.
Visited all over the world? Check.
Met all the relevant famous and important people? Check.
Ate all of the most expensive delicacies? Check.
Tried the relevant drugs and other dopamine spiking activities? Check.
Had orgies or sex with the same sex and underage partners? Check.
Abused and helped people to see how they'd feel about it? Check.
Invested into whatever makes them the most happy, be it hobbies, work, or otherwise? Check.
So what the fuck else is there aside from attempting to uncover the unknown or join some mysterious super secretive organization in hopes that they can offer your life some new meaning or even extend it?
>So what the fuck else is there
I am just going to stop making threads
But it wasn't a difficult question. I just went through the process of elimination to come to the most likely conclusion. These people have already did it all. Literally everything. That's why they're looking for something new. Either ancient mysteries or tech. It doesn't mean that they 100% believe in them, but what do they stand to lose? If they're multi millionaires or even billionaires, what's a few hundred thousand to them? Frankly, what's a few hundred million or more to the billionaire class? They don't give a fuck about the money. They know exactly how to make more of it. It's only a means to them to achieve their goals, to make their lives... interesting, I guess? I can't think of any other reason why they'd do what they do.
So why were/are the greatest sages practicing asceticsm, my man? Your line of reasoning is limited by things you (don't) know, like every single person on /misc/ who writes more than a paragraph in threads like these so
what did you expect? I pictured you throwing bait and sitting down with some popcorn but you were expecting serious answers?
>you were expecting serious answers?
/pol was better in 2016. Almost a decade ago now. Wow. I am getting old. I was expecting seriousness, how foolish as a clown world captain. Time to take my hormone pills.
I mean you're not wrong but it still was utter shite in 2016
Numerals of truth. Everything changes anon, it's one of those occult truths that stormfag ameriboomer will call you a israelite for if you're interested in finding out about it. I'll try to save the thread. Its impossible to summarize the true value of what is known as "esotericism" or "the occult" but ill try to point out some things about it: God, through Nature and other things dictates all. To understand how things (all of them) -really- work is to know God. Some people, even evil ones, may at some point in their life run into a moment of deep self reflection and will speak of their life as before and after this moment. Many of them are somehow driven to engage with all of the world's spiritual and philosophical traditions until they arrive at one that will truly lead them to God. The scary part though is that "magic" itself is not bound by virtue, ethics, morality or anything like that. There are those who, for whatever reason, become (self or otherwise) educated in technical know-how without ever being bothered by things like self reflection, spiritual duty or whatever, and they end up using its techniques for selfish purposes. I'm sure you can think of countless examples of people using (even withholding) information and technology to increase power, profits, control, stature and so on. Magic also does not require any tools or equipment other than a functional human brain being directed by its owner. The baby eaters, if they exist, do that shit because they enjoy it, not because it's "muh key to occult powers" like your average B&H christcuck ameriboomer would have you believe. They are retarded and don't know anything
They just do shitposts when they want to participate but can't. They're like women who ruin everything they can't have.
>You're talking about an idolized version of Buddhism
Are you being serious? Asceticism has been practiced all over the entire world. Thinking Buddhism owns asceticism is just hilarious.
Oh shit someone that's not just from Reddit or some casual newfag.
>The baby eaters, if they exist, do that shit because they enjoy it, not because it's "muh key to occult powers" like your average B&H christcuck ameriboomer would have you believe. They are retarded and don't know anything
This is now the post to beat.
Let me give you a breakdown of what got us to this point, which helps explain what you reference here:
The deluge occurred around 11,000-12,000 years ago. The people from "Atlantis" (don't get caught up on the placeholder name) that survived were tasked with rebuilding. Pockets of civilization survived and quickly turned to "magic" stuff because that's the norm for humans. In their regressed state, they saw cataclysms unfolding and made offerings to Venus, Jupiter and maybe even the Sun, all in an effort to prevent further cataclysms. I don't know why or anything, I just know they did it. Well some of those guys rebuilding stopped at some of these pockets of people and told them to fucking stop because that's not doing anything productive and they corrected them with animal husbandry, herbalism, maths, writing and so on.
It turns out these people continued seeding civilization and gave us practices like Shamanism. This Shamanism concept pervaded the entire planet. Why? Because the idea came from the same group of people who carried over lost knowledge from the Pleistocene.
Some people still practice the ritual(s), but they're just retarded and don't understand they don't need to keep killing babies.
These modern concepts of "Magic" came from these Atlanteans, an ancestor of theirs being Jesus (and many more).
how are you so sure that i'm not seetheposting about archangels using me as their punching bag in /r/occult right now????? Also finally sombody who gets the joke. Say it with me HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Nice, you actually made me kek
>I can't do that with some supernatural deity
You're right, especially if you never try.
>I decided that it's just not worth it.
Be my guest. No one is going to try to get you to crack open a grimoire and learn how to summon some entity or whatever.
But that doesn't mean you should excuse yourself from learning how to grow spiritually.
And, no, going and sitting in a pew for an hour on sundays and listening to some smelly boomer talk about his favorite normalfag stories from a book no one else in the building actually reads is not something that leads to spiritual growth. You actually have to do something.
So what entities do you claim to be involved with?
I don't follow any religion or spiritual tradition by the way, so your comment assuming that I'm Christian is very American.
I like the Buddhism concept of "all deities are just the a reflection of self", but I haven't worked with any deities yet myself or at least won't invoke them here.
What I will tell you is that his name isn't Kek, but Kekui.
>so your comment assuming that I'm Christian is very American
Should I really not just expect people to have mundane spiritual perspectives here? Where is the precedent for that?
Sages? We're talking about rich people. I don't know any sages. They practice whatever they believe in or whatever makes them happy. It doesn't mean that they're right. Everyone's just doing their own thing, but people are inherently also insecure. They have doubts. They question their path in life from time to time and seek something or someone to reaffirm that they haven't strayed from the "right" path, whatever that may be (that in which they believe in). Ultimately it's just a type of mantra and there's no way to confirm who's "right" and who's "wrong". There's always hope. And the more realistic and grounded of the rich seek for methods with which they can extend their lifespans in order to fulfill their goals, whatever those may be. That's my hot take. Wipe your ass with it if you believe that your ideas are right. They aren't.
Are you a AI Chat Bot
Wassup ma nigga?
>Wassup
moonmen
Can't you see? Spics and naggers have to hang from trees.
>So why were/are the greatest sages practicing asceticsm
You're talking about an idolized version of Buddhism that never existed in the past. "Sages" didn't exclusively adhere to ascetic beliefs, they'd adhere to them in times of need.
I'd tell you to read some actual fucking history books, but you seem to lack the skill of discerning truth from fiction and would probably read a passage about fasting and exclaim that people of old didn't need to eat.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA okay bro
You worship false idols.
Start worshipping yourself instead.
>muh i know exactly who you are and what you do
>le unironic epic 14 year old hot take
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You are acting like a twelve-year-old.
Behave yourself, fool.
I did not ask for a Netherlands Civl War
Let me answer your question, then;
Why do the rich and powerful dabble in esoteric matters? Because it works.
Allow me to give you some unsolicited advice: the world bends to those that do not believe in absolutes.
>Why do the rich and powerful dabble in esoteric matters? Because it works.
Not good enough if what I learned this week is true.
DON'T POST OCTOPUS IT'S ANTISEMETIC
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wrong, asceticism is practiced by those who wish to challenge their construction and is an exercise of the will for the purposes of identification and juxtaposition. This then includes any mystery teaching both exoteric and esoteric, and thus every religion and tradition has an ascetic practice. Of course if you solely focus on materialism, then you come to the absurd conclusion that one would only do this in times of privation (read: you’re a retarded rock)
All the money and shitty blood and sex magic can’t buy brain cells. Kabbalah is for subhuman retards that want to understand the world. Their magic can only be used against npc’s, which is utterly pointless. When you are truly enlightened you can control any npc; without needing to do any of that garbage. Their currently goal is to make a child rape & torture assembly line to extract adrenochrome and cum. Your western countries extreme israelite israelite cock chokers are working towards this future.
but I don't want to control NPCs. I want everyone to play nice
The truth of the world we live in isn't Abrahamic. There was other great civilizations before us, ayyes exist, other dimensions exist, etc...
Magick isn't fireballs, levitation, and other vidya shit. It's something that you can't understand unless you experience it. You can force things into reality if you know what you are doing
Can you speak more about forcing things into reality?
Yeah imagine relying on a higher deity to do your work for you like a cuck.
>prays to Jesus for a million dollars
Hedonism.
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
naggers in Africa kidnap albino naggers and cook them in a soup because their white skin apparently has some magical properties for cooking up a potion.
The fuck were you expecting? This is who runs the show now.
>The fuck were you expecting? This is who runs the show now.
I guess my frustrations would be alleviated by seeing a more educated American public; but, maybe, it's best not to wake the sleeping giant, intellectually speaking. A new era of American Intellect would be generation alpha educated by zoomers which would arguably be worse than the world we live in now... Imagine hyper-advanced zoomer culture...
Anyway, nothing here is answerable. Just a bunch of pretentious homosexuals huffing their own farts in their mother's basements.
Do what makes you happy. Nothing else matters. Peace out my 8ball friends.
that's have been going on for centuries
>successful people all do this thing
Lol why do retards do this?
You'll never not suck.
>rich people
>stupid(?)
>rich people are into the occult
Hmmm
>the bone rings of Saturn
tell me more
I got really into the occult years ago, less out of a desire to do anything occult and more because I found the people involved fascinating.
A good way to explain it is that most occult traditions like Hermeticism and Thelema (if you can call Thelema a tradition, it's not really old enough) is that they're projects to understand the way that human will influences other human beings in ways that are not entirely obvious.
Crowley very famously wrote an explanation of magic in which he described himself using a telephone (a magical device) to call a demon (his editor) and have a change made to his most recent spell (his book) and that this was every bit as magical as throwing fireballs at shit. Magic is about understanding how to affect your will--and what matters is not any real truth about HOW that will gets accomplished, only the fact that it does.
So you might be tempted to believe that these guys don't actually believe in magic, but I very much assure you, they DO believe in it, and not like the secular new-agey shit, they actually believe that they're contacting choronzon to drain their souls into the red chalice and join the guardians of the temple. And the fact is, these ARE the people who run the world, the most serious criticism I could give of them isn't that the magic doesn't work, but that the first thing all of these guys tell us is that nobody who actually got to that point in the emptying of the ego would even care about gay shit like politics or even the material world anymore, yet the whole story of Thelema after Crowley got old was grifters claiming to show great powers (And even convincing the old bloods) turned out to just be total grifters. L. Ron Hubbard convinced one of Crowley's protoges that he was the real deal and robbed him of like 50 billion dollars, it was humiliating guy later got blown up in a lab accident though so of course everyone said "Oh okay maybe Hubbard actually did have magic.
>what matters is not any real truth about HOW that will gets accomplished, only the fact that it does.
It is best to not be a dick about accomplishing your will though.
>guy later got blown up in a lab accident
That was Parsons playing with his rocket stuff, its easy to confuse everyone though because of the fact they all hung around each other at some points
Yes it takes real science to build an airplane, but it also takes real black magic to enslave all of humanity with a debt-based pyramid scheme with the all-seeing-eye on top. And ultimately the impulse and the allowance to build those airplanes comes from the black magic freaks who rule over the occult world of international finance.
>the allowance to build those airplanes comes from the black magic freaks
That's it Fin bro stop making so much god damn sense!
I admit "allowance" is maybe not the correct word here. The money, the loans, the impulse to make it possible to build them comes from the top of the pyramid. The black magic freaks own the banks, and through the black magic of fractional reserve banking the airplane comes into existence.
>but it also takes real black magic to enslave all of humanity with a debt-based pyramid scheme with the all-seeing-eye on top
no it doesn't
Ask yourself, why did old mr. Bauer have that red shield with the HEXagon on it way back in Frankfurt? The Rothschilds were heavily involved in black magic from the beginning. Ok maybe it all could have happened a different way, but it didn't.
1- define black magic
2- people with more time to waste will get into weird shit no matter what it is specially those that struggle with meaning in life and in death
3- do bees practise black magic?
Well if we look at magic or magick in the most broadest sense it's just about trying to achieve desired results through the conscious application of mental energy, imagination, speech or "spell-casting", ritual, ceremony, or other methods deemed "magical". If those results or the methods used to achieve them are immoral, selfish, or harmful, then it can be called black magic.
Well bees certainly have occult significance. In the Bible there is the famous riddle of Samson: out of the eater, something to eat, out of the strong, something sweet. The answer is a corpse of a lion that had a bees nest and honey inside it. The bees are the israelites, making honey, or making money, the carcass of the lion is the host, in this case the Filistines, or the Palestinians. So perhaps the lion had eaten the bee-hive, and then the bees killed the lion from within, and used the carcass to build their own nest and make their sweet sweet honey. Out of the eater, something to eat, out of the strong, something sweet.
>trying to achieve desired results through the conscious application of mental energy
MANIFESTING A DESIRED REALITY/OUTCOME/ITEM BY SPEAKING OR TYPING IT INTI EXISTENCE (For example)
>If those results or the methods used to achieve them are immoral, selfish, or harmful, then it can be called black magic.
This isn't the definition and now you just look dumb.
"Black Magic" is a form of theurgy or practical Magick (ie. petitions, talismans, invocations, sigils and on and on) that has a target of another sentient being with the aim to hinder them, harm them, expose them to trouble or inconvenience, etc. Some people blur the lines and do shit like a "binding", which they argue isn't "Black" because it's "making sure they don't do that to other people", a pretty weaselly way of maneuvering around morality, at least in my opinion.
"Money" is a means to tokenize expended energy or conveyed value of a service rendered. There's another class there, which deals with risking that tokenized energy to leverage economic syntheses of varying kinds. This concept of "influence" exertion seems misguided. It makes more sense to frame it as a way to exchange your tokenized expended energy.
Not at all. He was demonized because normalfags didn't understand he was doing the exact thing we do to newfags all of the time, like when we gorepost or do obscene things to get them to leave.
Do you know much about the Cynics and their information "marketing" strategies? Diogenes was famous for drawing attention of onlookers by shitting and masturbating in front of people in very public places. But what he did afterward is what was important - he shattered their overton windows. This gave civilization a new direction to head in.
To illustrate this further Alexander was fascinated by him and Diogenes treated him like some annoying kid that's just bothering him. Why? Because Diogenes learned to abandon society's rulers. They treated him like a slob for it, calling him a dog. He was anything but a beast though - he was the opposite, a free man, no longer weighed down by the shackles of conformity.
This is what Crowley did.
This is a good post. I haven't read all of your posts, but you know your alchemy. What I'm curious about, is to what extent even the historical context you provide, has been fabricated as yet another layer of the magic used by the influencers (I don't like the words "elite," "controllers," or "TPTB" since I hesitate to believe that they have actual power as opposed to formidable influence). Suppose, for instance, that our written histories and the figures present in those histories are largely fabrications (Alexander the Great and Diogenes, for example) or exagerations. That would certainly add more complexity to removing the veil insofar as the programming/influencing of the masses is concerned. Maybe it wouldn't. I'm just throwing ideas at keyboard here.
Anyways, for any other anons interested in the subject matter, I would recommend studying the subject of money as mentioned by this burgerposter. I think it's a good foothold into the study of alchemical interactions.
History will always be a flimsy premise. You can know what’s real by what can be experienced first-hand. Magic is real, demonic or not, as folks alive today still use it to their advantage. Salvation is also real, as folks alive today still speak with the Lord, and His miracles still happen. You are living through much the same story that your ancestors did, only the context has changed.
Good post. You're not wrong imo.
Thanks for the reply and the kind words. I agree with you on the concept of money. I must admit that before the veil had begun to be lifted I was what can only be described as oblivious to the nature of money, but now that I see it, I find myself struggling to even remember what it felt like to be oblivious to something so glaringly obvious.
>What money brings is fungibility, in other words indistinguishability.
This is very profound; an incredible way to put it.
Nicely done, anon. Many people think Germaine, Pythagoras, Socrates, Jesus and way more enigmatic figures of history are actually just made up or at the very least modeled after a much more mundane figure. Socrates is a great example, as I'm pretty fond of the theory that Plato just made him up to teach what he had learned in Egypt.
>the subject of money as mentioned by this burgerposter
I'm always surprised when I see you guys apparently admitting that you've never thought of "money" as an energy currency before. It seems pretty transparently to me to be a pretty alchemical concept.
The truth is once you reach the top of the pyramid (whatever domain), things become weird from a statistical perspective as you leave maxwell boltzman statistics and enter bose-enstein statistics. Numerology, alchemy, etc, are just ways identities get entangled. What money brings is fungibility, in other words indistinguishability.
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1209/0295-5075/93/28003
> high iq post: 120 + 80 points for vision – and this is exactly what these phenomenon bring
You again with your gay plasma/blood transfusion bullshit, wow, so mysterious, fuck off.
>your gay plasma/blood transfusion bullshi
Do tell I have heard about the origins of "Young Blood"
Plasma transfusion regenerates body, that's it. I don't remember the name of that pretentious homosexual, Brian Johnson iirc, check him out on twitter, he is doind that exact bulsshit. And these gay masonic larpers posting bees like an allusion to plasma and pretend they deeply into great secrets and shit. This stuff has been around since Bathory times.
>Plasma transfusion regenerates body, that's it
okay we make synthetic blood that's even better than human blood?>
Idc tbh, just funny to see these pretentious homosexuals bee larpers.
At least you're sort of aligning more properly than others, but I'm not big on the dualism myself. The Rothschilds are also our foil, which they've plainly admitted. Surely they don't want to see themselves as our permanent "stewards" (what they think, not me necessarily). But I'm not really defending them here.
Anyway, there's nothing wrong with the hexagram, as "israelites" (and Khazarians alike) just borrowed that from other people. Unlike others, they also claimed it was theirs all along, no one taught them and that they're "god's chosen lmao", which is ludicrous. Instead, Saturn is important for a variety of traditions and for many different reasons. I wouldn't jump the gun here and say "Saturn is evil!" Instead, it's way more mature to just except that Saturn is "in charge" here and work with him. He just wants you to be a better person, like a stern father when you're a toddler. Frankly, loads of people act like toddlers about this subject, bitching about the referee instead of just playing the game.
>with a debt-based pyramid scheme
Your forgetting to mention all the behavioral manipulation that gets down through media and pop culture. The broad casting of certain "spells" meant to manipulate human behavior through media is technically black magic.
Fun fact: MKULTRA is technically considered to be black magic too
Because le results happen but it's just better to just focus on the self within
it makes life more interesting if there is some "secret" world that only the "elite" are a part of
but just like in eyes wide shut its just larping that rich fags do and then have giant orgies with each other so they all have blackmail on everyone else.
and retards like it because they like to think that stuff is going on even tho they never participate in them
The astrology or w/e of planets matter very much since they change pulls and currents or something. However, if an individual is strong enough they can swim against a current, correct? It's why it's best to just focus on the self within and without. Soul, body, and mind.
Maybe they're rich because of it retard? Maybe it works.
The occult is basically mass psychology in a digestible form.
bump thank you all for coming
This becomes part of a doom map now
as you wish
U R Welcome
Its best when they do.
I did not know that. I'll look up more of Algol cause I'm kind of interested in it now. Whatever symbol was on the shield must've had some very fortunate and protective qualities. I always figured it would be whatever was on Solomons ring.
Once you realise that this universe has distinct rules you realise all this materialistic shit is meaningless and the real power resides in the metaphysical control of other metaphysical concepts like a soul etc etc etc etc. It just takes these people getting everything they could ever gain in the material to realise this truth. I get a lot more out of controlling people than I do with capital.
>the real power resides in the metaphysical control of other metaphysical concepts like a soul
yes but why am I sexually attracted to planes doctor. Why is it involuntary. Am I some air force lab rat?
No just an autist who is into planes over trains.
>No just an autist who is into planes over trains.
planes are obviously cooler?!? wtf is wrong with that brit train tik toker who met the prince. FUCK TRAINS
> I get a lot more out of controlling people than I do with capital.
Ideally, capital should only be regarded as a tool for controlling others and not something to be pursued by itself or for temporary material items like a Lamborghini for example.
Capital is a tool to aquire and expand influence and control, no more no less.
Why do the poor and stupid turn to christianity?
/x/ is leaking again
Despite all the money rich remain human, they lack something and try to compensate via occult. Fools just get there by chance. However Fools are more dangerous, since their beliefs are sincere
>they lack something and try to compensate via occult.
smart Ivan, maybe one day we can split china like korea my love
Nah, division of china is kinda pointless. Wipeout is proper way. China will suffer from diseases, most efficient way for them.
>Wipeout is proper way
da
>black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the atlantic
With all the money that is put into it. It might as well.
Both do it to feel better than average person, poor because they have nothing else and rich because they have enough money that they can waste it on shit that's unlikely to work
they aren't real people, basically. god uses symbolism to tell us this. he dresses up famous people with at shirts wearing goats. its pretty stupid, but he does do this and its probably worth realizing. hes controlling them himself, lol.
einstein used to have a copy of the secret doctrine by blavatsky on his table, just sayin
My understanding is a lot of people are drawn to science initially to explain god. Some find a fire and they just can't stop looking. It becomes an addiction to look for god.
It's fun.
its called "chings secret" because its a secret and you aren't suppose to tell people about it. all the products with funny UPC codes like this have ironic names and cool bible pictures on the packaging. i'm breaking all the rules by telling you this. go back to sleep.
Because Satan is real (so is God and Jesus btw)
>so is God
yeah, God is so real it's honestly disturbing
To expand on this: We unironically are in hell.
>We unironically are in hell.
I fucking love it here
Satan and Jesus are Semitic fairytale for nagger tier people to believe in.
they bored and also need to separate themselves from everyone else, who they see as sheep of which they're mostly right about but they're not much better with the dumbshit they go for themselves.
Why do retards assume the "occult"a automatically means black magic, anything thats not mainstream is occult. Anyway I've come to realize that 1. The Aether is real 2. Humans have a vital and pyschical force.
Modern Science and Big Religion are two sides of the same coins here to keep the general masses at bay. Oh and the earth is hollow
Why do you think the Earth is hollow and what is your proof?
Parable of the camel and the needle's eye, the rich can't get into heaven because are cursed, weak, not physically fit, they should be lifting weights instead.
Black Magic is only half of the story
>Black magic doesn't make a 747 fly across the Atlantic. It's ridiculous.
No, electric charge differential does
The rich: because it was passed down to them and the demonic activity in their bloodlines likely led to their riches in the first place
The stupid: they want to be the rich
that pic reminds me of this John Podesta pic
triple bingo and a gold star for you, welcome back to whenever that was
Because they realized christianity is israeli brainrot.
I don't know.
Why would you turn to hidden knowledge that could give you an advantage over the Average person?
because you've decided to take the path of what mark passio calls the de-occultist and have rejected the left hand path because you care about others and you want to instill goodness in them and give them the moral compass they so desperately lack on account of living in upside down clown world. i don't like the NPC take, i don't call people hylics. i choose to assert that everyone and everything is an aspect of the divine that resides within all of creation. this domain includes animals, plants, and even minerals which i hold to be conscious living entities. remember the parable of the girl on the beach throwing starfish back into the ocean. she knows whe can't save them all, but it was worth it to save even just one. i know this sounds cringe and Oprah tier but really it's Christ tier thinking. yes, he warned us not to cast pearls before swine, but he also gave everyone a very good friendly reminder and then dropped the mic so as to not belabor the point to those without ears to hear.
because I was sub-average
/polx/ threads are best threads
spaintard what else do you know?
Jannies are trannies
I telepathically crashed turkish Airlines flight 1951
The occult was there before the rich and powerful and they were never not into it. israelites perform actual literal dark money magic
Because they realize Ahriman has led them astray, so they open their eyes to the spiritual. It's the only choice you can make at that point else you will be trapped in creature comforts forever.
Oh I get it. This is bait.
More politically-relevant than foot fetish spam, and not a 1pbtid either, calm your tits
For the use of magic and occult knowledge is the origin of their rule over us, but christoids think only praying will save the world.
Everyone turns to the occult, except midwits. Even they have some idea of why the occult is important, from a sociological perspective, so I think maybe you're not old enough to really have considered it for yourself.
That's really true. Actually you maybe just pointed out the best way to identify a midwit.
Scrying under the effect of Datura is 100% legit.
Yes, but way more than just Datura. Cannabis seems to be one of the most popular methods, especially these days.
Do you guys want a little help?
You don't read a few books and understand the practical side of things and suddenly wake up one day with a porsche in the driveway. Instead, your goal is to be presented with more opportunities to make money.
The goal is about guiding intention and focusing on a goal and then letting everything else fall into place to catalyze that goal. So you set up your aim and then take actions through every day with that goal in mind to see it come to reality.
There's no real shortcut, even with "magick". You learn very quickly (or should) that "give me a million dollars, le god" either doesn't work or, if it does work, you'll have serious, unintended consequences.
They say "magick always finds the path of least resistance". That idea has loads of implications.
I don't really believe in this stuff, but even if I did I would have absolutely no interest in getting involved in it.
It's well known within those circles that dealing with any kind of god requires a trade. I'm perfectly happy going through things the hard way rather than dealing with the side-effects of getting involved in shit that I can't comprehend or control.
>dealing with any kind of god requires a trade.
>any kind of god
You seem like a shut in, anon. You mean to tell me you don't feel that way about most people? What precedent in your life established this idea for you? Are you seriously surrounded by extremely unselfish people? I'm hesitant to believe you if so.
>I'm perfectly happy going through things the hard way rather than dealing with the side-effects of getting involved in shit that I can't comprehend or control.
This is exactly my problem with gatekeepers. None of you should feel this way. "Magic" used to be an integral aspect of daily human life.
The Catholics ruined everything.
>demonic or not
I urge you to learn the etymology of the word.
Again, Catholics ruined everything (not the clergy since there's no sense blaming the normalfags for being stupid by default).
Sure, any interaction requires a trade. But I can understand humans and work with them as equals, I can't do that with some supernatural deity. The first step towards getting involved with that kind of shit is to respect it, and after fully understanding and respecting the consequences I decided that it's just not worth it.
Maybe they're rich because they turned to the occult.
>doesn't make a 747 fly across
wrong. you make create anything with enough meditation and energy vibration via contacting high masters.
all you need is love since we live in simulation, sky is a hologram and moon is a fake evil satellite used by archons to block unity of az/we/wuz.
it is ancient knowledge. bro.
Ask Jack Parsons.
Because rich people live in spiritual poverty.
The material eclipses the spiritual, people who are satisfied with life don't seek out egregious excess and the exploitation this requires.
When you get right with God, you are glad to even be alive, let alone have food, water, shelter, and so on. God is love, to love and be loved is to dwell in God and have God within you.
You also realize that it is more important to store treasures in Heaven by giving to the poor instead of storing treasures on Earth that you will ultimately lose.
>he doesn't know an endowment of wealth is a spiritual test by (You) to see if you get your upgrade or not
ngmi
prove black magic doesnt make it fly nagger
My take:
Magic is hypnosis, rituals and occult believes help you to change your perceptions of the events wich lead you to change your behaviour wich will change the outcome of your actions.
> Want money
>Do money ritual
>Now my mind is focus on money, i'm seeing more things about money, learn about money, see more opportunities.
>I think i'm backed by magic so I will act bolder than usual.
Due to all the points above you have a good chance to make some money and if you can make money of something once, you can probably make more.
>Positive reinforcement
>Learn more, see more opportunities, act even bolder, get more money.
>Magic works guys !
The rituals and symbols are just there to soften your defense mecanisms and make you more vulnerable to suggestions.
Then you reshape the worldview of the person (yourself or others) by the same means as in classical hypnosis or in a marketing campaign.
If you have ever stopped smoking, drinking or doing drugs you will know what I mean.
>It's not good it destroys myself.
It's your switch of perception wich lead to :
> I want to stop
Then you try to change how you act. Same mechanism.
For the same reason you look to science brainlet
>doesn’t make a 747 fly
Yeah you probably don’t understand how planes fly either. Somebody told you some basic explanation and you just accepted it as reality. God I fucking hate you all. Planes aren’t even real.
You're so smart, aerodynamics am I right?
Density
Feeds their egos and makes them feel unique and special
Because their weak and don't know how to enjoy the worthless life's they were already born with
Occult doesn't automatically mean black magic, anon. It means "hidden".
Black magic is a specific type of occult practice and it appeals to people who feel weak and insignificant mostly. But also people who are just downright evil to begin with.
It's perfectly possible to be an occultist/witch and never use "black magic". It's also possible to use black magic on occasion for a specific task, ie, cursing someone who deserves it, and then go right back to "light magic".
It might as well mean black magic even though you are correct
Because God/Jesus/Holy Spirit are super fucking real and those people you mentioned are on the other team. Same reason why Jeffrey Epstein had an upside down cross directly across from his sex sofa.