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Why do TERFs hate trans people to the point they will ally with conservatives?

Why do TERFs hate trans people to the point they will ally with conservatives? Even if 100% of trans people were detrimental to their cause there is only so much damage they can do given their numbers, while the right opposes pretty much everything they stand for and are much more numerous and powerful.

  1. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Late Stage Tranny Derangement Syndrome

  2. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    obssesion. they legitimately think trannies are this huge societal danger even though were mostly inconsequential.

  3. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Have you even bothered reading what TERFs actually said about this, or do you just repeat shit like a parrot? They aren't happy about this, I've never seen the phrase "politically homeless" so many times on one website.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      but they still support htem though. it doesnt matter. they legit think trannies are a bigger danger than banning abortion, loss of reproductive rights, poverty, etc 2 the point theyll look the other way and ally with conservatives nonetheless.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        But they aren't. When a conservative speaks, almost all the responses are along the lines of "fuck, I don't want to be lumped in with these people" or "so who the hell do i vote for when everyone sucks?"

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          damn why do they cooperate with the fucking heritage foundation then

          • 4 days ago
            Anonymous

            Post proof or you're just a parrot.

            • 4 days ago
              Anonymous

              and you're a retarded foid terf, no one cares

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Whoops, caught the tranny telling lies. I guess feminists must not be so bad if you have to make shit up like that.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                googling is hard
                https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/conservative-group-hosts-anti-transgender-panel-feminists-left-n964246
                >The conservative Heritage Foundation, which has long advocated against LGBTQ rights, hosted a panel in Washington on Monday titled “The Inequality of the Equality Act: Concerns From the Left.”
                >Those invited by Heritage to share their “concerns from the left” included three women from the Women’s Liberation Front, or WoLF, a self-described radical feminist organization best known for its opposition to transgender rights, and Hacsi Horvath, an adjunct lecturer at the University of California, San Francisco, who formerly identified as transgender.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                more
                >Back in 2017, James Dobson's Family Research Council (an evangelical public policy nonprofit designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center) held their annual Value Voters Summit, which is a networking and brainstorming conference for propaganda on behalf of the religious right. At one panel, they advocated developing a plan to "separate the T" from the LGBT. They explicitly discussed appropriating and using TERF arguments to sow distrust and discord among the queer community.
                https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/christian-right-tips-fight-transgender-rights-separate-t-lgb
                >As Right Wing Watch also mentioned in their coverage of the same panel, a trend emerged during the session, as various speakers wrapped their opposition to nondiscrimination measures in rhetoric passing as progressive: transgender rights were depicted as anti-feminist, hostile to minorities and even disrespectful to LGB individuals. This seems to be part of a larger strategy, meant to weaken transgender rights advocates by attempting to separate them from their allies, feminists and LGBT rights advocates.
                >Kilgannon identified a wide coalition of potential allies outside the Christian Right who could confront trans friendly measures. Here’s her advice on how to draw them in:

                >Explain that gender identity rights only come at the expense of others: women, sexual assault survivors, female athletes forced to compete against men and boys, ethnic minorities who culturally value modesty, economically challenged children who face many barriers to educational success and don’t need another level of chaos in their lives, children with anxiety disorders and the list goes on and on and on.
                so yeah, the terf lies and is brainwashed again

                I'm telling the truth. When I read how women are reacting to this or having actual conversations with people, they don't like it. But you can keep your "everyone who disagrees with me is a Christian Nazi" security blanket for a couple more weeks, at least. Hilary Clinton is telling democrats to leave trannies in the dust and June isn't even over yet. You'll see for yourself that the left is about to drop you and your messy diapers off on the side of the road where you belong.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

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                can you at least admit that you got psyopped into this to ignore real problems, or are you this far gone?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Right back at you.

                thestandardsc.org/jennifer-bilek/billionaires-funding-transgender-movement-for-profit/

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >le big pharma meme
                >also George Soros lmao
                hrt is cheap (like 7k max for a filetime) and if you start early you don't need shit like ffs and only like 15% of us get srs and thats like 20k or under 15k from Thailand depending on the surgeon. so nice meme

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >from Thailand
                You'd got to be nuts to trust a doctor from there

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                best results are from Thailand, sorry but US surgeons are shit, keep coping.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Nah Thailand has very good tranny surgeons

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                A literal WoLF in sheep’s clothing
                Reality is a simulation

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                googling is hard
                https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/conservative-group-hosts-anti-transgender-panel-feminists-left-n964246
                >The conservative Heritage Foundation, which has long advocated against LGBTQ rights, hosted a panel in Washington on Monday titled “The Inequality of the Equality Act: Concerns From the Left.”
                >Those invited by Heritage to share their “concerns from the left” included three women from the Women’s Liberation Front, or WoLF, a self-described radical feminist organization best known for its opposition to transgender rights, and Hacsi Horvath, an adjunct lecturer at the University of California, San Francisco, who formerly identified as transgender.

                more
                >Back in 2017, James Dobson's Family Research Council (an evangelical public policy nonprofit designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center) held their annual Value Voters Summit, which is a networking and brainstorming conference for propaganda on behalf of the religious right. At one panel, they advocated developing a plan to "separate the T" from the LGBT. They explicitly discussed appropriating and using TERF arguments to sow distrust and discord among the queer community.
                https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2017/10/23/christian-right-tips-fight-transgender-rights-separate-t-lgb
                >As Right Wing Watch also mentioned in their coverage of the same panel, a trend emerged during the session, as various speakers wrapped their opposition to nondiscrimination measures in rhetoric passing as progressive: transgender rights were depicted as anti-feminist, hostile to minorities and even disrespectful to LGB individuals. This seems to be part of a larger strategy, meant to weaken transgender rights advocates by attempting to separate them from their allies, feminists and LGBT rights advocates.
                >Kilgannon identified a wide coalition of potential allies outside the Christian Right who could confront trans friendly measures. Here’s her advice on how to draw them in:

                >Explain that gender identity rights only come at the expense of others: women, sexual assault survivors, female athletes forced to compete against men and boys, ethnic minorities who culturally value modesty, economically challenged children who face many barriers to educational success and don’t need another level of chaos in their lives, children with anxiety disorders and the list goes on and on and on.
                so yeah, the terf lies and is brainwashed again

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                You could at least do the bare minimum and try to refute their complaints. From my perspective, you lads are basically setting your identity up to be used as an easy escape from criticism, to the point where any asshole can utilize your identity to victimize others. I don't give two shits about how you identify, but unless you address these issues, you aren't gonna convince normalfags to tolerate you, much less like you.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >You could at least do the bare minimum and try to refute their complaints
                That's completely irrelevant to "terfs ally with conservatives" "no they don't" "yes they do and here is proof".

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Aren't radfems practically neo-puritans anyways? Are you surprised they agree with conservatives on most anything sex related? Most are just bitter cunts that hate men and anything associated with men.
                That being said, I've seen the crazy shit that goes on in "lesbian" dating apps and unless you lads wrangle some of your tards, public opinion is gonna keep getting worse. If you can't refute the arguments of bitter feminazis, arguments that seem to be convincing more and more people regardless of how logically sound they are, then I dunno what to tell you.
                There's no way to determine who is or isn't trans, outside of self identification, which allows any malicious mook to utilize the label (and all the legal protections that come with it) to wreck as much havoc on society as they can. Said malicious mooks don't give a shit about you, outside of enjoying your usefulness, but you've got no way to weed them out.
                TL;DR - they say it's the trannies; you say it's not; evidence suggests people are being abused by cunts claiming to be trannies; what is the gameplan for dealing with them in a way that doesn't fuck PR for actual trannies?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Are you surprised they agree with conservatives on most anything sex related?
                No, and I have no stake in this shit anyway.
                Just wanted to point out that whether or not terf arguments make sense or convince the public is irrelevant to whether terfs ally with conservatives or not.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Why would them allying with conservatives matter worth shit compared to the arguments they are convincing people with? Are you one of those morons that has social cliques rather than any actual opinions of their own?

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                >Why would them allying with conservatives matter worth shit
                Because that's literally what the OP is about. Whether they're convincing people is a different topic, thus irrelevant.
                And yes, I have my own opinions, but I also understand that shutting down your brain and being an NPC is frankly the easy road in life, thus I do not hold it against people who decide life is already difficult enough without defending your own opinions in an ocean of seething political dogshit.

              • 4 days ago
                Anonymous

                Now you're just playing dumb. Here, let me reiterate a bit of OP's post
                >Why do TERFs hate trans people to the point they will ally with conservatives?
                You are whining about whether or not they do, while completely dodging the "Why?"

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

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      >politically homeless
      Imagine being "politically homeless" when one side wants to ban abortions while the other one doesn't. They hate troons so much they stop caring about everything else.

      [...]
      I'm telling the truth. When I read how women are reacting to this or having actual conversations with people, they don't like it. But you can keep your "everyone who disagrees with me is a Christian Nazi" security blanket for a couple more weeks, at least. Hilary Clinton is telling democrats to leave trannies in the dust and June isn't even over yet. You'll see for yourself that the left is about to drop you and your messy diapers off on the side of the road where you belong.

      >You'll see for yourself that the left is when...
      Yeah? Well, these so called "radical feminists" will see what the right is in a couple of days.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        >Imagine being "politically homeless" when one side wants to ban abortions while the other one doesn't
        People value different shit. I don't care about abortions or trannies, but I'm also solidly against gun grabbers and woke scolds just as I am against bible thumpers and book banners. I don't fit into any political party and have no representation in government.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        It's really more like "one side wants to ban abortions" and "one side is sitting on its hands and mumbling about how they'll totally help with the whole abortion thing."

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        she cute
        I can’t dislike her

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I'm fairly sure most people have read what TERFs have to say in order to point out why what they are saying is wrong and detrimental to their own cause, retard.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        No, almost all of you just repeat each other and play telephone until we end up with absurd shit like
        >TERFs want to legislate dresses and long hair for every woman!
        >TERFs love tradcons!
        >TERFs don't talk about abortion!
        This isn't even a tranny thing, this behavior is all over the internet. Read a headline or a tweet, get pissy, repost it without investigating, tell yourself you're a Good Person for sharing it, repeat.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      Yes, TERFS think that gender is a concept made up by the patriarchy to oppress them and trans people are reinforcing that concept and trans women only want to be women because they are UwU submissive catgirls and not because they have horrible dysphoria. Trans men though are poor oppressed butch sisters who are tricked by the evil patriarchy. It's just men bad women good repackaged in thin ideological coating.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Men bad women good is objectively correct though.

  4. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Cause the concept of transgenderism denies the fact physical bodies define culture and lived experience, and blurring the line on a mentally ill freak's whim may look harmless when it's only a couple of fags, but is actually pretty dangerous if applied on a societal scale.
    Trans people have no idea how unlivable a society with a majority of trans would be

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      you think a majority of people would transition??? you know trannies are like 0.5% of the population right? lmao do Americans unironically believe 20% of the world is trans now?

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      I don't think that would ever even be a possible case. Most people don't want the tranny life, unless they actually have gender dysphoria, outside of the few wackadoos using it to suppress criticism

  5. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're not actually radical feminists, just females who hate trannies. Usually they already had conservative viewpoints

  6. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Females

  7. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    Because both hate men.

  8. 4 days ago
    Cis :v

    I don't know bro, I just follow them on twitter to get pussy pics.

  9. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

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    A pointless exchange between two morons that completely sidesteps the meat of the thread.
    >It isn't about whether or not terf arguments are convincing anyone.
    Then what's it about? Terfs and conservative agreeing they dislike you and see you as an existential threat? Pretty sure the "Why?" is rather important in this discussion and shouldn't be ignored in favor of petty bickering.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      >that completely sidesteps the meat of the thread.
      No, you're sidestepping.
      You posted

      You could at least do the bare minimum and try to refute their complaints. From my perspective, you lads are basically setting your identity up to be used as an easy escape from criticism, to the point where any asshole can utilize your identity to victimize others. I don't give two shits about how you identify, but unless you address these issues, you aren't gonna convince normalfags to tolerate you, much less like you.

      the content of which is completely irrelevant to the post it replies to.
      Either it's a poor attempt to get the discussion back to revolve around the why instead of if, or you are the "lying terf" trying to disctract from the fact that you got your ass kicked by evidence.

  10. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

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    Buddy you're a little late to the party, they're now attacking gay people and drag queens using the same playbook.

  11. 4 days ago
    Anonymous

    They have become conservative due to age. Unironically once you hit 50s or so and beyond, you just fall out of step with what the world is doing and go absurdly conservative. I shit you not, the woodstock generation and the radical feminists of old are literally just the fucking squares blocking progress now. The younger terfs are just conservative to begin with.

    • 4 days ago
      Anonymous

      It makes sense when you look at it in terms of Progressive vs Conservative. The former wants change, the latter wants stability. Once Progressives get the changes they want, they tend to want it to stay how they changed it. However, a new generation comes on making even more changes that the old generation feels destabilizes what they worked to build, so the old progressives become the conservatives of the new generation.

      • 4 days ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah. I think if people had a more rock solid foundation underlying their beliefs, the whole conservative -> progressive cliche wouldn't occur as much, but most people don't really have their views and how they arrive at them well thought out - they just have a set of things they want to see done, and then once they're accomplished they just feel like locking down and becoming wary of any further changes. There's a generation of liberals that only had that political identity because of weed and gay marriage. Once they got that, they became for all intents and purposes the conservatives with their arms crossed saying "nuh-uh" to trans people that dare to want anything out of life.

        • 4 days ago
          Anonymous

          Progressive -> conservative, obviously*

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