Why do stupid people not like Dream Theater?


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Why do stupid people not like Dream Theater?

  1. 1 week ago
    SS88

    Dream Theater is a band consisting of 4 absolute smiths who cannot for the life of them make anything worthwhile together. The fifth guy is their mediocre tag-a-long friend, and their fans are Tool-tier self indulgent pretentious fuckboys.

    That’s why anon.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >who cannot for the life of them make anything worthwhile together
      This claim always felt weird to me, because the reason I like Dream Theater is specifically because their songs are so catchy and memorable compared to their contemporaries. It's like the perfect combination of pop hooks and rich instrumentation.

      What songs specifically have you heard that you think aren't written well?

      • 1 week ago
        SS88

        As I am and Systematic Chaos in their entireties.

        All this band does is decide on a cord progression and a gay time signature, then take turns jacking each other off while LeBrie pretends he fits the band.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >As I am and Systematic Chaos
          I'm not a huge fan of either of these either, to be fair. Although the latter isn't a song.

          What about their other 13 albums did you not like, since most of their albums aren't constructed like these examples?
          >All this band does is decide on a cord progression and a gay time signature, then take turns jacking each other off while LeBrie pretends he fits the band.
          No, that isn't the case.

          • 1 week ago
            SS88

            Bruh I already gave them two hours of my time. I don’t even like prog.

            They use technicality to mask the fact that they can’t write a damn song, and James LaBrie I swear to god is not even in the band. He’s a hired gun they get to do vocals after the real bands written the music.

            If I want this, and I don’t, I can go listen to Opeth instead. It still sucks just a little bit less.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >I don’t even like prog.
              Ah, that explains it.
              >They use technicality to mask the fact that they can’t write a damn song
              No, they have many catchy and memorable songs, it's part of their entire appeal. I already explained that. If you listen to a song like Beyond This Life or Metropolis pt.2 and can't pick up on the hooks or thematic cohesion, I'd consider that more a problem on your end than on the band's. And that's fine, not all music needs to be for everyone.
              >and James LaBrie I swear to god is not even in the band. He’s a hired gun they get to do vocals after the real bands written the music.
              That's how most bands function. I'd bet money that if you looked at some of your favorite bands, most of the songwriting would revolve around 1 or 2 members and no one else.

              Floyd, for example, was all Barrett. Then when Barrett left, it was all Gilmour and Waters. Wright and Mason had very little to do with the songwriting post-Dark Side of the Moon.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      People parrot this all the time but it's easily proven wrong just by listening to Images & Words. You are right about the fans though, the vocal ones can be very pretentious.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder how many people have actually listened to any of their songs. They have one of the most diverse discographies in terms of musical style for a metal band.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >I wonder how many people have actually listened to any of their songs.
        90% of the people who say they suck have probably heard the songs they had in guitar hero and then never bothered to try again.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Most people probably only know Pull Me Under or Dance of Eternity

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This is the most basic bitch soiguzzler opinion. Their earlier albums have some great songwriting.

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're stupid.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Only reason I've been told is James voice

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He grows on you. It's confusing how many of the same people who fellate Geddy Lee will scoff at LaBrie's voice lol.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Not sure where you got that idea fro, both vocalists are really divisive
        Along with John Arch

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I actually really like his voice. It fits the vibe quite well. I don't know how to explain it but DT sounds more like some kind of soundtrack or some bullshit than a normal band so a normal voice like Corey Taylor or some shit wouldn't fit at all. He nasally and annoying voice of James fits perfectly

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      it just really comes down to the day you catch him on concert. I was at two DT concerts and he sounded good in both. But then you have garbage like this

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Live environments are also a lot more forgiving than recordings, due to the flawed and more distorted nature of how the sound reaches your ears.

        I saw DT live and thought James sounded pretty good while I was there, but then I watched phone recordings of the same show and it was pretty clearly not that great.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They cannot create anything evocative enough to lure stupid people in.

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They kinda fell off after Portnoy left

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      A dramatic turn of events was as good of an album as anything they did with portnoy

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >A dramatic turn of events was as good of an album as anything they did with portnoy
        It was better than the last several Portnoy albums, I thought. Honestly felt he was trying to turn them a nu-metal band for a while there. Black Clouds was a good return to form, but not as much so as Dramatic Turn.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Honestly felt he was trying to turn them a nu-metal band for a while there
          lol never heard someone say this, which album makes you think nu metal?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >which album makes you think nu metal?
            Side A of Six Degrees, Train of Thought, Systematic Chaos, as well as a few songs on Octavarium, all lean hard into nu-metal.

            Obviously they're still sprinkled with prog flare, because that's what they do, but many of these songs felt too much like they were trying to appeal to the times. Petrucci even adopted the look.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              The look was a bit cringe and yes SOME riffs but overall I still enjoyed six degrees, less the other two but I don’t think for the nu metal elements. Their best output will always have been their early period with a few standouts sprinkled through out later albums (“octavarium”, “the count of Tuscany” “forsaken”)

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >which album makes you think nu metal?
            Side A of Six Degrees, Train of Thought, Systematic Chaos, as well as a few songs on Octavarium, all lean hard into nu-metal.

            Obviously they're still sprinkled with prog flare, because that's what they do, but many of these songs felt too much like they were trying to appeal to the times. Petrucci even adopted the look.

            They had those nu-Metallica styled bits throughout those records, nothing wrong with it. It's not like they can use bagpipes for them

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >They kinda fell off after Portnoy left
      not really. some of their best output comes from the Mangini era. The only really bad one was the Astonishing.

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because they got mogged by Haken

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What the fuck were they thinking?
    It's not even laughably bad because it's a 2 hour slog

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I couldn’t even sit through the whole thing

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >What the fuck were they thinking?
      Petrucci was hard into Disney around that time. Everyone else just went along because he's the boss.

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I used to listen to them a lot when i was in my late teens. I think I basically stopped when Portnoy left. Not that Mangini is a bad drummer, he's amazing but I think like they started venturing into some weird prog territory that didn't vibe with me. I still listen to their old albums sometimes.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They kinda fell off after Portnoy left

      Same, it's obvious that he would be the one that would hold the reins and say "Heyheyhey guys, stop, we are making a SONG here". If you put all of his 12 step AA songs together, it stands as one of their best albums.

      It's kinda sad to see the general sentiment skew towards negative so much, but I can understand that people don't have attention spans or appreciate musicianship enough to go through their work. I remember getting the Octavarium DVD, and watching it with my buddies

      Because they got mogged by Haken

      Haken is great

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >it's obvious that he would be the one that would hold the reins and say "Heyheyhey guys, stop, we are making a SONG here"
        Then why did he write so many bad songs? So much of Portnoy's 00s output was complete shit. A Dramatic Turn of Events, Distance over Time, and A View From the Top of the World are enormously better than Systematic Chaos, Train of Thought, Octavarium, and Side A of Six Degrees.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Why do people shit so much on Octavarium and Train of Thought? They weren't perfect, true, but at least they tried going in a different direction. Systematic chaos also had good bits and pieces like The ministry of lost souls and forsaken. Also part 1 of in the presence is epic (might just be because it was the first ever metal track i've listened to)

  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If this does not resonate with you then you lack a Soul

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The only albums I've listened by Dream Theater are Images & Words and When Dream And Day Unite

    I like them both, never just bothered to listen anything else by them.

    My favorite song by them:

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Images & Words is still one of their best albums. WDADU is kind of shit though lol.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Based WDADU enjoyer.
      Try Awake though, it's darker than the first two but still great. Their original keyboardist left afterwards and that was the first real blow to their quality.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    petrucci earned those Disney princesses

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    SAFE IN THE LIGHT THAT SURROUNDS ME

  13. 1 week ago
    microdoser_of_toxic_ex_gfs

    the same reason smart people don't like dream theate

    they aint good

    jk they good

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There are objectively better bands out there, OP. This one happens to suck mass quantities of ass.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >There are objectively better bands out there, OP.
      Name some lmao.

      • 1 week ago
        SS88

        Opeth is the easy first answer.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Opeth
          I knew you were going to name some pig oinking shit like this.

          Opeth has some ok albums, but they don't have nearly the amount of flavor DT does at their best.

          • 1 week ago
            SS88

            You do realize Opeth has done clean vocals for a couple albums now?

            Anyway I’d don’t even like Opeth but they are better than Dream Theater.

            Then you have the Classic GOATs: Rush and Yes. I actually do like them.

            That’s just staying within prog.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >You do realize Opeth has done clean vocals for a couple albums now?
              And? They're fucking boring and lifeless. The only good album they've ever done with clean vocals was Blackwater Park, and even it doesn't come close to albums like Metropolis pt. 2 or Images & Words.
              >they are better than Dream Theater.
              My sides are in orbit.
              >Then you have the Classic GOATs: Rush and Yes. I actually do like them.
              Dream Theater draw from Rush and Yes far more than Opeth does.

              • 1 week ago
                SS88

                Like I said prog ain’t really my thing. Outside of prog their is a litany of better bands.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Not too many ladies there. Even early Pink Floyd had girls in audience because Syd was so cute.

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I've never really liked their tone and they always seem to have a lack of groove.

    When it comes to their style of prog, I've always preferred Symphony X

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    There are too many good acts in the prog metal space now to care about a bunch of virtuoso's who are like grease and water

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I don't like playback and the vocals were shit from the start

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    This is the Dream Theater album for people who don't ordinarily like Dream Theater

    t. I don't ordinarily like Dream Theater

    • 1 week ago
      SS88

      As we established I don’t like them, but “As I am” and “Honor Thy Father” are objectively good. I’ll concede that.

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