The funny thing about this is diyers now are too dumb to know what they're doing so they end up jumping right into injection megadoses and end up with tiny boobs
You start researching hrt or just go legit? "diy is better and doctors just hondose you" only makes sense when you actually know what you're doing like most people used to. Now the meme survived but it's retarded teens leading retarded teens
How many megadoses does it take to stunt your breast growth? If I accidentally dosed way too high a couple of times, am I doomed to serve on the itty bitty titty committee forever?
t. early hrt retard
Most trannies get almost no breast growth anyway plus less boob makes it easier to boymode plus megadosing leading to no boob is speculative honscience
>am I doomed to serve on the itty bitty titty committee forever?
boobie most regenerative organ in human body
you can partially reset if it's truly stunted
and like other anon
Most trannies get almost no breast growth anyway plus less boob makes it easier to boymode plus megadosing leading to no boob is speculative honscience
said, it's conjecture, we've got no idea, but I think part of the speculation is that it may cause dense growth that might impair the ability for TEBs & ducts to proliferate (almost getting tangled, perhaps, picrel)
(that is pure conjecture on my behalf btw, there are likely many other factors involved)
some people's bodies just barely respond to hormone therapy and there's not much you can do about it >t. manmoder (3 years on injections with good levels) with zero male fails
i don't remember the exact numbers but at trough my T was at the bottom of cis female range and E was around 200 pg/ml
i should mention that i did get some fat redistribution but it was minor and insufficient to really feminize me. i still have no butt or thighs, my cheeks didn't fill up (despite being almost overweight) etc
as i said, just shit genetics
P.S. i don't want to dissuade anyone from starting hrt based on my example
my starting point was really bad - six foot tall, enormous brow ridge and jawline, bad proportions
i'm probably in the bottom 1% of ogrehons
what i'm saying is, even if I had the best possible fat redistribution i still wouldn't have passed due to my bone structure
most of you will probably turn into twinkhons after three years of hrt, which isn't a bad place to be
I would lower trough to 100 pg/ml
i got stretch marks from really good fat redistribution to my ass/thighs at like 50 pg/ml trough on 3~ mg oral E, higher E2 isn't always better
also you could try pioglitazone, it helps with getting rid of visceral fat (around waist)
cis woman's average E2 levels through a cycle are 100~ pg/ml, so if your lowest estradiol level is 200 pg/ml the average is going to be way higher than a cis woman's
im not saying this will make you pass, but it could help you feel better
i think there's a lot of factors involved
but that's one ya
variations in AR and ER genes, other genes involved in regulation of cellular proliferation, less IGF-1 (for post-puberty tranners), low bodyfat (for lanklets who refuse to get to a good BMI), factors involved in drug metabolism and clearance
basically what people say when they refer to genes ig
but everyone resigns to that fact, rather than go, 'hmm, how can I debug my morphology and pimp my transition out to match so I get the best results'
yes it's likely a wild goose chase (esp on a personal level), but if we don't, then we won't advance: nobody else is doing it for us
Partly related to "genetics" but in a different way: >smoking or drinking. both kill gains >medications like prednisone/allergy meds >medical conditions that fuck with stuff such as thyroid conditions and untreated diabetes/pre-diabetes
A lot of trans-people seem to have weird development before transitioning.
I.e. their first puberty did not go well.
If the reason for that was not related to sex hormone levels the it's possible whatever prevented their development before will do it again.
Depends on the medication.
A lot of them are gluccorticoids such as prednisone which will give you a really gross body type overall and sabotage hrt. If you're taking them long term anyways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushing%27s_syndrome
capitalism
because blanchard was right
hondose vs diy
did diy experienced minimal changes anyway
Genes or manipulated before/afters
The funny thing about this is diyers now are too dumb to know what they're doing so they end up jumping right into injection megadoses and end up with tiny boobs
>end up jumping right into injection megadoses and end up with tiny boobs
how do i not do this anon? where do I start
You start researching hrt or just go legit? "diy is better and doctors just hondose you" only makes sense when you actually know what you're doing like most people used to. Now the meme survived but it's retarded teens leading retarded teens
How many megadoses does it take to stunt your breast growth? If I accidentally dosed way too high a couple of times, am I doomed to serve on the itty bitty titty committee forever?
t. early hrt retard
Yes you'll have delicious flat lil boobies for me to lick and play with while you're in bed
Most trannies get almost no breast growth anyway plus less boob makes it easier to boymode plus megadosing leading to no boob is speculative honscience
>am I doomed to serve on the itty bitty titty committee forever?
boobie most regenerative organ in human body
you can partially reset if it's truly stunted
and like other anon
said, it's conjecture, we've got no idea, but I think part of the speculation is that it may cause dense growth that might impair the ability for TEBs & ducts to proliferate (almost getting tangled, perhaps, picrel)
(that is pure conjecture on my behalf btw, there are likely many other factors involved)
what is meant by partial reset
also good genetics vs bad genetics
some people's bodies just barely respond to hormone therapy and there's not much you can do about it
>t. manmoder (3 years on injections with good levels) with zero male fails
what do you mean by "good levels"
post ur t and e levels
i don't remember the exact numbers but at trough my T was at the bottom of cis female range and E was around 200 pg/ml
i should mention that i did get some fat redistribution but it was minor and insufficient to really feminize me. i still have no butt or thighs, my cheeks didn't fill up (despite being almost overweight) etc
as i said, just shit genetics
P.S. i don't want to dissuade anyone from starting hrt based on my example
my starting point was really bad - six foot tall, enormous brow ridge and jawline, bad proportions
i'm probably in the bottom 1% of ogrehons
what i'm saying is, even if I had the best possible fat redistribution i still wouldn't have passed due to my bone structure
most of you will probably turn into twinkhons after three years of hrt, which isn't a bad place to be
I would lower trough to 100 pg/ml
i got stretch marks from really good fat redistribution to my ass/thighs at like 50 pg/ml trough on 3~ mg oral E, higher E2 isn't always better
also you could try pioglitazone, it helps with getting rid of visceral fat (around waist)
cis woman's average E2 levels through a cycle are 100~ pg/ml, so if your lowest estradiol level is 200 pg/ml the average is going to be way higher than a cis woman's
im not saying this will make you pass, but it could help you feel better
Nobody gets changes from hrt other than youngshits, all oldshit passoids basically could have passed prehrt.
Am I oldshit at 24?
you retire at 26 glhf
2 years of being a midshit I guess, maybe I'll make it?
>under 17 is youngshit
>17-19 midshit
>20+ oldshit
However after like 19ish it really depends on your genetics, some people are gigachads at 18, others are still basedboys at 25.
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she's LITERALLY me i look like that i look like that i look like that that's what i look like
androgen receptors retard, they matter more than the androgen levels
i think there's a lot of factors involved
but that's one ya
variations in AR and ER genes, other genes involved in regulation of cellular proliferation, less IGF-1 (for post-puberty tranners), low bodyfat (for lanklets who refuse to get to a good BMI), factors involved in drug metabolism and clearance
basically what people say when they refer to genes ig
but everyone resigns to that fact, rather than go, 'hmm, how can I debug my morphology and pimp my transition out to match so I get the best results'
yes it's likely a wild goose chase (esp on a personal level), but if we don't, then we won't advance: nobody else is doing it for us
Partly related to "genetics" but in a different way:
>smoking or drinking. both kill gains
>medications like prednisone/allergy meds
>medical conditions that fuck with stuff such as thyroid conditions and untreated diabetes/pre-diabetes
A lot of trans-people seem to have weird development before transitioning.
I.e. their first puberty did not go well.
If the reason for that was not related to sex hormone levels the it's possible whatever prevented their development before will do it again.
>allergy meds
Oh fuck
CURSE YOU FUCKING GODS FOR PUTTING US IN THIS HELL
>allergy meds
q-qrd...????
Depends on the medication.
A lot of them are gluccorticoids such as prednisone which will give you a really gross body type overall and sabotage hrt. If you're taking them long term anyways.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cushing%27s_syndrome
Yeah everyone gets so amazed when they see my pre transition face. Like woah... you barely look like that now... Lucky genetic prolly.
genetics