Why do Protestants not see Catholics and Orthodox Christians as "Christians"?

Why do Protestants not see Catholics and Orthodox Christians as "Christians"?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They dont fellate naggers enough or something

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dont worry theyre well on their way to catching up, Satan

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        They believe the catholic church is the whore of Babylon and wants to start the new world order. The more hardline churches would probably accuse churches like of being corrupted by the jesuits
        Check out chic tracts they are wild stuff. I'm not if I believe the catholic church is the NWO but they definitely do some shady shit.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        My dude, that was a painting at a Washington 'catholic' University. Everyone knows American Catholicism is overseen by woke jesuits who hate their congregations. Just like every other American institution.

        I'll take having to put up with the old ladies who knitt me socks and jumpers every year complain about how the yanks are losing their way every Sunday, if it means I don't have to bow to a tranny flag and listen to a 'pastor' tell me how much jesus wants me to give my kids hormone blockers.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >that wasnt REAAAAAL catholicism tho, bro
          okay dude
          heres some authentic euro catholicism then

          • 1 week ago
            cassandra malcador true Ptah

            what is the pope doing man

            kiss the hand

            wtf

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Aint this the shit that Jesus did tho? Love all your children and shit. Orthodoxy is the only Christianity but this is a christ like thing to do. The problem is would he kiss white feet ?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              i remember him exorcising demons i dont remember the footplay

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah... cus jesus never showed his love for his flock by doing anything regarding their feet.

            This image is only upsetting to you because it awakes your innate murican non denominational urge to worship brown people, like your pastor said you should during the GF riots.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does JIDF make such lazy bait?

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If you believe in good works being required for salvation you’re worshipping idols and not Christ. If you pray to dead people you’re worshipping idols not Christ. If you directly contradict the Bible when it comes to your religious ceremonies you worship idols not Christ. If you have idols all over your churches you worship idols not Christ.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You worship a book you don't even understand, not christ.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine thinking the word of God is complicated to understand.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Imagine ignoring "Faith without works is dead."
          Imagine ignoring "If you love me, keep my commandments."
          NGMI

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine ignoring "You shall not make unto you any graven images."

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              imagine following a heretical mockery of the one apostolic church whose followers ignore miracles only given to Catholics

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                based, anon. Tomorrow is First Saturday.

                The best thing you can do for yourself and your nation is to love God with all your heart and all your strength. Everything else will follow.

                Our Lady said to Sister Lucia:
                >I promise to assist at the hour of death, with the graces necessary for salvation, all those who, on the first Saturday of five consecutive months, shall
                >confess;
                >receive Holy Communion;
                >recite five decades of the Rosary; and
                >keep me company for fifteen minutes while meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary, with the intention of making reparation to me.

                THIS IS TOMORROW

                Read more: https://d2y1pz2y630308.cloudfront.net/2669/documents/2017/3/1st-Sat-CoR-12pg-Booklet-Color-21415-Item-26737.pdf
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            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I don't. You assume I'm a Catholic, I'm not. I have not been corrupted by Catholic or Protestant dogma. I am an independent follower of Jesus.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                This is the way

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Why is the 9th commandment different in english? In spanish the 9th commandment reads "You shall not tolerate impure actions or thoughts"

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Spanish Bible translators

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Don't take this the wrong way, but I trust a spanish/Italian/French translation of the bible a lot more than an English one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Spanish Bible translators

                Nevermind lol, I just read it in italian, it's a lot more similar to the english translation.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It literally says no gods beside him. Protestantism is the only one with the graven images commandment, and that's Muslim-tier. Gets your scripture right.

              t. polytheist

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                My Catechism didn't have the graven images part.
                1 No other Gods
                2. do not use the Lord's name in vain
                3. Remember the sabbath

                And two commandments on coveting. I am completely ignorant on the graven image thing. Except reading it in the scripture.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Prots don't even do baptism or believe in miracles lmfao. Pathetic.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                There's a protestant denomination that's literally called Baptist, you stupid fucking pope worshiper.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                not that anon but ive heard 4 different protestant christians say that baptism is a creepy pagan ritual that has nothing to do with christianity. now, im usually all for that kinda thing, but im pretty sure baptism is in the bible.....
                not every protestant is baptist yknow, theres a billion weird little sects all with their own stupid schizo beliefs

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe you dumb fucks shouldn't be making blanket statements about all protestants then. And you've literally never heard a protestant say that. You're a lying fucking homosexual.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                i wasnt the one who made those blanket statements, and yes i did hear protestants say those things lmao. we were watching that faggy the boys show on amazon, not my suggestion the christcucks btw, and they were going on about how baptism was evil and pagan. me, a pagan, had to tell them that jesus was baptised in the bible himself. embarrassing. sorry you dont wanna believe it

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Checked. Also, Salvation Army doesn't Baptize, which is funny because their adherents, soldiers, lieutenants, and captains (probably even their General) will often go get dunked somewhere else.

                It's really hard to know the scripture and then not get baptized.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              So Protestant can commit adultery according to their scripture ?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, it was written to allow the king's adultery.
                It's the america sunna

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              And yet most protestants still fail the 4th commandment

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine ignoring this verse:

            1 Timothy 2:5
            New International Version

            5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Catholics will ignore this.
              Place no man before me. Ok let me go to confessional.
              Make NO image of ANYTHING in the heavens.
              Lol ok, saint coins, mary, etc.

              Theres a lot.
              Also theres a reason all other denominations looked at catholics as the antichrist back in 1200s. For their brutal torture of christians.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Or how about...

                Matthew 23:9

                9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He also says "be as perfect as your father in heaven" and "go and sin no more"; you are apparently not able to draw the difference between the free gift of God (salvation) and discipleship

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Faith without works is dead. But salvation is of faith. Sanctification, however, requires not just work but the willingness to be made useful.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Clarification: one who finds salvation and does not continue to sanctification is a backslider, lukewarm, dead.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Seems like we believe the same things.

                Salvation is of faith, true. But since faith without works is dead, you could also that that faith is of works. Not that we can ever be perfect, and as such our works will never be enough, but that we try seems to be a required part to me.

                I'm not on either side in terms of caths vs prots, but it is very annoying to have prots say works is not a part of it, some even going so far as to say that doing works is equal to damnation. Especially when most prots are doing works, they just deny it. Possibly a semantics problem, but still, they should recognize that works are not evil, and also that they do them.

                Telling people that they have to do nothing but believe seems like it may lead to being told, "I never knew thee."

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Imagine unironically worshiping a rabbi and following his grift

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >word of God

          Is christ not the TESTAMENTS of those who witnessed the Word

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          imagine thinking a mortal mind can fully comprehend God
          you may as well read the Talmud with that level of arrogance

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This was also in the video as well.

      Are you that preacher I mentioned in my other post?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay what's the true denomination then? Also KJV-only can fuck off.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine not praying to the holy mother of god.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >this
        i wonder what happened to the protestant churches and individuals that followed Jesus in there own way when the bomb went off in hiroshima.
        pic related.. the priests were following the fatima message.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine believing pic happened.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You dont believe God assumed his wife/mother to heaven?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Book
            Chapter
            Verse

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Do you not believe in the Church Christ set up through Peter? See

              >No pope
              >Gives peter the keys
              >Tells peter to look after the flock
              Prots don't realise the church existed from day 1 while their false doctrine only started a few hundred years ago...

              It is a dogma - divinely revealed that Mary was assumed into heaven.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                So its not in the bible

                Also you brainlet miss the point of tha verse

                Peters name means stone, but on this rock - the statement that christ is the son of God - is what the church is gonna be built on

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                And Peter would build it and be the head..... Hence why he was told to take care of the flock.

                >Not in the bible
                2 thess 2:15
                So then, brothers and sisters, stand firm and hold fast to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

                The things the Church teaches are part of the traditions and teachings as they come from apostolic succession.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I could now post a verse saying you drop the word of god for the traditions of men, your mary worship contradicts scripture, but this discussion isnt even worth my time; burn in hell as much as you desire

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >worship
                Why are you prots like this? When the prophets fell down in 'worship' to eliah was it worship? When Abraham fell down on his face in "worship" to the people he bought his selpeuche from was it worship?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >eliah
                >abraham
                Are they christian?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The point is even in the bible the word 'worship' doesn't always mean worship in the sense of worshipping God. The same is with Mary and the saints and angels.

                I can't argue with that. That's the problem, there is no way I will convince you or you will convince me. But I have seen fake Catholics trying to demoralize. For instance I've heard someone claiming to be Catholic say that God isn't infallible, that can't be Catholic, right?

                >fake Catholics
                Yeah watch out for them.
                >You will know them by their works
                A lot of modern Catholics do not want to accept a few things. I'll explain.

                Yoga is a religion. Practicing yoga will lead you to hell. The church has taught for centuries, at least 900'years now. That heresy, apostasy and schism seperate one from the body of Christ. And someone who is not in the body cannot be pope.

                So if a "pope' falls into heresy he is no longer pope. This is how i know Pope Pius 12th was the last pope. Though i still attend latin mass with valid priests (traditional ordained) because sacraments are important.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dont think that what other religions consider worship or not has anything to do with christianity. Maybe you catholics do idk.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Worrying about something, say money, amounts to worship.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                If you put it above God it's idolatry. Learned that in a Salvationist church.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yes, but even on a minor level it's worship. And yet, if you stop worrying about money and simply trust that somehow it will work out, "miraculously" it tends to work out. The Lord asks for a heart free of worry, doubt, guilt, shame, anger, etc. The secret places of the heart are what concerns Him most. And He comes like a lamb. If you are stressed can you convince a flighty animal that it is safe for it to come to you? No, you'd probably need a lasso. But, if you are entirely peaceful, you can call it and eventually it will come over to see what you are doing.

                This is among the things that the churches leave out of their sermons.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Amen.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Though i still attend latin mass with valid priests (traditional ordained) because sacraments are important.

                Exactly, I've been in the congregation with ultra-vain protestant pastors, working as hard as they can to be received as cool to their congregations. But what can you do. What about the administration of the Sacraments, it's God's word and the faith of the adherent for you as well, or does the Priest have to be holy?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                As i see it. A valid priest is a proxy for Christ. All the powers the priest has eg absolution is really just Christ absolving you through his minister.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                and this is the problem. You do not need a proxy to Jesus, period

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Failing to understand sacraments.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Makes sense, Luther's explanation skips this entirely by making it about the word of God while being dispensed unworthily by its' administer. And then he quotes St. Augustine.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Luther also cut the book of james but it destroys their false doctrine.

                Christ becoming the High Priest removed the need for priesthood. You can't go directly to Jesus Christ for forgiveness? Or to ask him for healing? Who do you think you are? Who are you to the Lord? Regain the relationship you were made for.

                Receive ye the Holy Ghost. [23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. [

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Christ becoming the High Priest removed the need for priesthood. You can't go directly to Jesus Christ for forgiveness? Or to ask him for healing? Who do you think you are? Who are you to the Lord? Regain the relationship you were made for.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>You can't go directly to Jesus Christ for forgiveness?
                How do you know what the sins are? Especially in the modern world?
                Would you still be wise enough to ask for forgiveness?
                Did you know there are only 2 references to masturbation as a sin in the bible, and they are oblique? One calls it the solitary sin and the other is god striking someone down for pulling out.
                >>Or to ask him for healing?
                You aren't asking the priest for healing. Confession is to help contain the moral relativism of a changing society.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Did you know there are only 2 references to masturbation as a sin in the bible

                But what are you masturbating to?

                Matthew 5:28

                27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                And if the definition of adultery gets fucked enough from decades of israelite shifting words around?
                Just look at what they managed to do with muzzies and their supposed built in gold standard.
                A strong institution that is able to keep the creep of relativism away is beyond value.
                Just look at all the random denominations that have formed since then. They can't all be right.
                Nor can they give every soul a chance to be reached.
                This is the point of the priesthood. To preserve the sacred traditions.
                Martin Luther did not approve of what he created by the end of his life just so you know.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I haven't seen a denomination yet that is beyond reproach. I've seen individual churches that teach what the others leave out, but a whole denomination? No.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>I haven't seen a denomination yet that is beyond reproach
                Sure, but that doesn't mean you stop trying to refine your understanding.
                Leaving something out because its inconvenient is exactly that.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Of course. If you look through my posts I'm in no way defending protestant churches, they are way off the mark. But, the catholic church is not doing what it ought either. The good thing is, a church building is not necessary to teach people how to grow and build a relationship with Jesus Christ that defies the corruption of the church's. The true church is the body of those who keep his commandments. Period.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>But, the catholic church is not doing what it ought either.
                Sure, but that doesn't mean you abandon an organization all together.
                There have been many important reformers throughout the history of the Church.
                >> The good thing is, a church building is not necessary to teach people how to grow and build a relationship with Jesus Christ
                Sure, but you need a common understanding of what that relationship looks like, and how to decide if something isn't helping to grow that relationship.
                >>The true church is the body of those who keep his commandments. Period.
                And who has kept those things obvious? Language has heavily changed within that time period.
                Community and organization comes naturally to people. Even the Kingdom of God has hierarchy. Why should we not attempt to do the same, even if deeply flawed.
                Humans going solo are naturally weaker.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                you'll know a good church. Revelation told us about the 7 churches (7 being the number of completeness, thus all the churches) and only 2 found favor. those churches taught about the synagogue of satan being those that claim to be of Judah, but are not. does the Catholic church teach about the synagogue of satan? does the orthodox church teach this? no.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Martin Luther did not approve of what he created by the end of his life just so you know.

                “Under the Pope, people were very fervent in building churches . . . Now that the true religion is taught, and that the people are properly instructed concerning good works, everybody is cold, so much so that we cannot help being surprised at it.”

                But he did still call it 'true religion'. But, I get it. Protestantism isn't without its' faults. How could it be when man is born to sin.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >how do you know the sin
                If you think you've misstepped but don't know how or why... ask Him? Who taught you how to pray? Throw that garbage out, speak to Him as you would a family member. And healing come ONLY from Jesus Christ.
                >Moral relativism of a changing society
                Ah yea let's just go throwing lies and justifying sin into our ministry. Weeeew

                >masturbation
                That's another thing that is left so woefully unexplained by the churches it's not even funny. It's not that playing with yourself is a sin. It's the thought behind it. There is not a secret held in the mind nor the heart that the Lord can't see. If you are beating your meat with the thought that you do so in secret it is denying the Lord, which moves you away from Him.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>If you think you've misstepped but don't know how or why... ask Him?
                And he uses people within his ministry to give you an answer. If you pray for an answer you have to listen to the world around you, waiting for God to give you insight.
                >>Ah yea let's just go throwing lies and justifying sin into our ministry. Weeeew
                Can you read? I said:
                Confession is to help CONTAIN the moral relativism of a changing society.
                >> It's not that playing with yourself is a sin. It's the thought behind it.
                Jesus only referred to adultery and lust of women as the sin? What if someone is fucked in the head enough to beat it to cars?
                Where does it say that's wrong in the bible?
                You need a priesthood to help you infer from scripture. God created a Church, not personal spirituality. The disciples would have never been necessary with your way.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The disciples were necessary to make more disciples. Which goes back to that red letter Bible that no one fucking reads. The great commission is a commandment. Go forth, baptize and make disciples of men. But no, now it's only for the cool kids club? No, I will continue making disciples of the common man, as Jesus Christ commanded. The priesthood can seethe.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >>The disciples were necessary to make more disciples.
                Sounds like there is structure in what you describe. You could perhaps even call it a priesthood?
                goes back to that red letter Bible that no one fucking reads.
                Who formed your bible? You don't think there has been disagreement on what should be included?
                Who kept the Gospel of Thomas or Peter out?
                >>But no, now it's only for the cool kids club?
                The cool kids club decides if there is communion with the rest of the body. Every single group can be defined by what it excludes and includes, even yours.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Teaching a man to be a fisher of men is structure?
                >who formed your Bible
                Oh, makes sense now. You don't have the Holy Spirit. The Word of the Living God is itself Living. No man is stronger or wiser than he and no truth can be covered. He who has an eye and an ear has no cause for the concerns you speak of.

                Now that I understand where you are I will pray for you, hopefully you appreciate that God comes as a thief in the night and pay attention.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >> You don't have the Holy Spirit. The Word of the Living God is itself Living. No man is stronger or wiser than he and no truth can be covered. He who has an eye and an ear has no cause for the concerns you speak of.
                You're literally going off something formed by hundreds of thousands of people over 2 millennia. Even the disciples vigorously debated and prayed over the correct direction to take. God has given few people true insight. That is why there have been so many schisms. Even amongst your own congregations.
                Believing that you alone can decide what should be taught is pride. A sin. Vanity.
                You are not holy enough to decide these things alone. No one is. Besides one.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                But, doesn't a writ of indulgence and refusal to translate the bible seem a bit drunk on power? And doesn't the Catholic church change over time, how do you reckon that?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >refusal to translate
                What? The latin vulgate was an excellent translation. What are you trying to say?

                Some traditions change. Ie more dogmas. Because they get revealed by God to his Church

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't argue with that. That's the problem, there is no way I will convince you or you will convince me. But I have seen fake Catholics trying to demoralize. For instance I've heard someone claiming to be Catholic say that God isn't infallible, that can't be Catholic, right?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                its not, most modern Catholics are closer to ecla lutherans than the council of trent

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It helps to know who is just claiming it to divide, at the end of the day I feel like enough blood has been shed over differences in Christian doctrine.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >I feel like enough blood has been shed over differences in Christian doctrine.
                agreed

                Catholics don’t realize their church that started on day one was twisted, perverted, and strayed over the years. It’s not what it used to be.

                >church day one was twisted and perverted
                false, it was imperfect maybe, because the apostles werent perfect.
                >strayed over the years
                yes

                They can't hear you. Jesus is the only intercessor.
                [...]
                Show me the Bible verse where Jesus said pray the rosary.

                i cant. and if thats your only criteria then i guess enjoy going to battle against evil with no weapon.
                if you are the least bit open ill point you towards mt. carmel (brown scapular), Guadalupe (10m+ aztec converted to Catholicism) and fatima (fatima had 50,000+ eye witnesses). if your very open ill point you to the lives of st. faustina and st. padre pio

                bless you all, even the heathens.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Put on the whole armor of GOD, not MARY. Jesus is the only weapon you need as stated in the bible. You should read it more.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The Pope has been systematically destroying the church and you say it’s not perverted? It totally is.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >bless you all, even the heathens.
                aw, thanks
                still not converting, still gonna make blood offerings to Wotan next wednesday

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Christ is the rock of the church not Peter. Read the fucking Greek and not your shitty Latin Vulgate corruption

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >the fucking Greek and not your shitty Latin Vulgate
                Ngmi. Why dont you understand that Peter still built the church on the rock, Christ or peter. Either way, keys and tending to the flock.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Christ is the rock of the church not Peter. Read the fucking Greek and not your shitty Latin Vulgate corruption
                The irony...
                >Peter is a common masculine given name. It is derived from Greek Πέτρος, Petros (an invented, masculine form of Greek petra, the word for "rock" or "stone")

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Tyrus is also a rock.
                Hebrew: צור צר
                Transliteration: tsôr tsôr
                Pronunciation: {tsore} tsore
                Definition: a rock;

                what's your point?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You were the one who brought up Greek, so you tell me.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                He probably means there are several references in the bible where Jesus is portrayed as the rock or the "chief cornerstone". During Dan's interpretation of Nebuchadnezzar's dream, Jesus was literally the rock that destroyed the statue of the major civilizations of the world.
                So it's obvious that Jesus is referring to himself as the rock when he was talking to Peter.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Christ is the rock of the church not Peter. Read the fucking Greek and not your shitty Latin Vulgate corruption

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous
          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I believe she got there the same way as everyone else, by faith in Jesus. God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yet she was qualified to bear God in her womb. Mary is a type of ark or covenant. There are many parallels to be seen between the two arks old and new.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          was peter crucified upside down?
          oral tradition is important... not that a heretic knows anything about tradition.
          it is also widely accepted by most christians and all Catholics that the woman clothed in the sun, moon at her feet, crown of 12 stars in revelation is the Virgin Mary.

          Book
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          >if its not explicitly written in language i understand it didnt happen

          I believe she got there the same way as everyone else, by faith in Jesus. God doesn't call the qualified, He qualifies the called.

          nice quip...but God literally qualified Mary to carry his Son...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It is the Roman Catholic Churches position that Mary was perfect is it not?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              yes, which is why she carried Christ.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yikes

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >nice quip...but God literally qualified Mary to carry his Son...

            And He qualified Saul (Christian killer) to plant a bunch of churches

            Even your first pope denied Him three times. Sure there isn't anything to suggest any impropriety with Mary but show me a verse to suggest she was in some way sinless.

            >was peter crucified upside down?

            Yes, I heard this he did not want to die in the same manner as the Messiah. I'm not denying that historical details aren't important. They certainly bring us to much greater understanding of the scripture.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              why do you believe peter was crucified upside down? it was never explicitly written that he was.

              Yikes

              >aww sweaty

              Protestants are all heretics.

              based

              based, anon. Tomorrow is First Saturday.

              The best thing you can do for yourself and your nation is to love God with all your heart and all your strength. Everything else will follow.

              Our Lady said to Sister Lucia:
              >I promise to assist at the hour of death, with the graces necessary for salvation, all those who, on the first Saturday of five consecutive months, shall
              >confess;
              >receive Holy Communion;
              >recite five decades of the Rosary; and
              >keep me company for fifteen minutes while meditating on the mysteries of the Rosary, with the intention of making reparation to me.

              THIS IS TOMORROW

              Read more: https://d2y1pz2y630308.cloudfront.net/2669/documents/2017/3/1st-Sat-CoR-12pg-Booklet-Color-21415-Item-26737.pdf
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              funny that none of the protestants itt wanna touch that post. or my post about how the only survivors in the immediate hiroshima blast zone attributed there survival to praying the Rosary daily.
              props to knowing about first saturdays, get your scapular and Rosary and pray the little office.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Vain repetition like the heathens.
                Try again

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Pray without ceasing

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Your point?

                This is the way

                This. No denominations.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah doesnt mean spam the same thing 24/7

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.

                That is what your rosary is for. It's for virtue signaling that you pray. Which is why it's not in the Bible.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.
                They're brain damaged.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I understand the sentiment because I find them annoying too but remember we're all equally retarded humans who need to be corrected from time to time.
                "but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire."
                It's the one I fuck up the most for sure.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >rosary is for. It's for virtue signaling
                False. Virtue signalling is telling people you pray and intentionally praying in places where others can see you.

                It was Mary herself who told us to pray the rosary.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why do you need a symbol worn on your wrist to pray privately?
                Please note Mary is just a woman and she doesn't supersede the Bible, even in Catholicism.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do you need a symbol worn on your wrist to pray privately?
                You use the rosary as a tool to count your prayers.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Is that what the pope is doing when he's waving it around and dangling it off his ears?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Why do Gods ministers glorify God

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                In a perfect world sure.
                We live in the one where pedos can sneak into your church in guise of holy men of God though.
                Forgive a heretic who sees the light or is even interested? Of course.
                Let heretics run wild? Who does that benefit but heretics?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You can use your fingers to pray the rosary.

                No it doesnt, praying to "maria" or any other saints is not asking them for something, but asking them to intercede on your behalf with god.

                Based. They don't realise. Here's an example.

                You ask a king something. Yes the king can hear you but if the kings mother asks him in your behalf he's more likely to act. See queen mother in the OT.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That's some Babylonian tier Nimrod/Samuramis worship lol. Catholics truly are pagan.

                The heathens had to pray to their gods in a certain manner and on certain days.

                Like Catholics. Mary and the saints are your gods. You claim they have the same power as Jesus (blasphemy) being everywhere at once, all knowing, and able to answer prayers, even give salvation. Repent.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The problem is counting your prayers.....actually it is, vain repetition.
                The problem is wearing the thing advertising you do vain repetition as part of your worship of the God who said not to do the vain repetitions.

                Yes. But my point is if you are carrying a Bible openly then you are signaling "hey I might be praying even now!". Ultimately my point, though, is Ecclesiastes. All is vanity including arguing whether or not something is vanity. I have my gripes with the catholic church, but I have just as many concerns about the practices I've seen in protestant churches. And those problems overlap, to be honest. What I've seen is churches that only teach the letter of the law. Or mention the spirit but never really explain it. Or explain it but not teach people how to reach for it. The crux of the matter being that each individual church uses the prospect of being labeled a heretic as a means to prevent people from actually trying to grow towards God in a fruitful way. When was the last time you saw a church able to call the Holy Spirit into the room without a 6 man band or a choir?

                >each individual church uses the prospect of being labeled a heretic as a means to prevent people from actually trying to grow towards God in a fruitful way.
                That hit the human part of my brain really hard but the other part of my brain is like, well yeah, the church that is 100% correct whether that be Catholic or Mormon or nondenominational or Scientology or whatever would behave the exact same way.
                You label heretics heretics.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yea you could do that. Or you could lead by example and show said heretic the fruit of the Spirit and cause them to come back from their fall. How many people have a red letter Bible? How many actually incorporate those highlighted words into their lives? Every word spoken by Jesus was commandment and instruction. The truth shakes every unworthy structure down and shows the faults in an unworthy foundation. No need for lies, manipulation or threats.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                It's not vain. You believe it's vain because you do not believe your prayers are heard.

                Dont forgot the virals of incense in heaven which are our prayers... Our prayers have meaning.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You don't understand my stance.
                I agree with the Bible that when you pray, it's mostly a private thing to be done for your benefit. God already knows what you need and you don't need to wear a special bracelet to show you pray.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Wear a special bracelet
                Clearly you dont know what you're talking about.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Same could be said of wearing a cross necklace or allowing someone to see you holding a Bible. Adhering to the letter of the law and ignoring the spirit thereof is eating of the leaven of the pharisee.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You fail to understand why the heathen pray and why Catholics pray. The nuance is important.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No difference. Both think their prayers will be answered if they repeat the same thing over and over. God already knows what you need.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Yikes. Tell me. The angels in heaven who pray "holy holy holy" all day every day. Are they in vain too?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                No, that's their job. That's what they were created for And notice how they're praising God and no one else.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The heathens had to pray to their gods in a certain manner and on certain days.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                heathen here and can confirm. tis why all the week days are named after gods and deities, its supposed to be better to pray to the sun on sun day for example. plays a big role in astrology and rituals as well, gets fucking confusing honestly

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Sunday is the day of our Lord because he rose on that day.

                That's some Babylonian tier Nimrod/Samuramis worship lol. Catholics truly are pagan.
                [...]
                Like Catholics. Mary and the saints are your gods. You claim they have the same power as Jesus (blasphemy) being everywhere at once, all knowing, and able to answer prayers, even give salvation. Repent.

                >That's some Babylonian tier Nimrod/Samuramis worship lol. Catholics truly are pagan.
                That comes from freemasons. 33rd degree mason albert pike said the number 1 enemy of masonry is the Catholic Church. Really makes you think.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                calm down bro i didnt even mention constantine being a former sun cultist and making sunday the new sabbath day or anything, i just said sunday is the day of the sun. which is true and well known to anyone who studies latin. monday is moon day, tuesday is tyrs day (his name is tues in anglo saxon)
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Names_of_the_days_of_the_week
                the romans and greeks started this trend and it spread to many other pagan cultures like the english and germans . neat huh?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                All religions aside from Christianity come from Babylon. In fact, Catholics still use the statue of Mary holding Jesus which came from Samuramis holding Tamuz (the reincarnation of Nimrod). It was an incestuous relationship and a middle finger to God to mock the father, son, and holy ghost. You all have the nerve to call Mary the queen of heaven just like they did. Then you claim you're Christian. You're lost.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Fallon for freemasons heresy
                Yikes.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah doesnt mean spam the same thing 24/7

                >doesnt know how to pray the Rosary
                its nuts how the Rosary makes heretics absolutely seethe. literally ngmi.

                >rosary is for. It's for virtue signaling
                False. Virtue signalling is telling people you pray and intentionally praying in places where others can see you.

                It was Mary herself who told us to pray the rosary.

                accurate.
                if you seek recognition and reward from man you will receive neither from God.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >the rosary
                Literally copied from hinduism
                >B B B B BUT MARY GAVE IT TO HIM IN A VISION

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >why do you believe peter was crucified upside down? it was never explicitly written that he was.

                Oral tradition, of course, I mean Luther was a monk, and Catholics had a monopoly on the faith for centuries. Our God is truth, so we can't just throw out what's true over resentment.

                And now that I'm reading about it there is some extra biblical documentation. That and Jesus kind of told him he would be crucified in John 21.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hiroshima
                Interesting how the 2 nuked locations were huge areas of Catholics in japan. Really makes you think.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Not really it's historically one of the larger centers of maritime trade alongside Nagasaki, and deliberate efforts were made to avoid leveling Kyoto and Tokyo as to preserve Japan's cultural heritage. Its proximity to the southern tip of Japan made it the logical point to set up operations from the Philippines and Indonesia, plus we were largely confined to that region as a policy until the English conspired with the shogun to expel us after the end of the Sengoku Jidai. It's also the reason why Kyushu was a hotbed of rebellion in the subsequent years, notably the Catholic peasant uprising in the 1600s, which later became the catalyst for the Meiji revolution.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why wouldn't I just pray to God instead?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Praying to Mary implies she's omnipresent, which is blasphemy. Only God has that power. Not even the devil is everywhere at once. Catholics are brain damaged and devoid of common sense.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's the Roman Catholic Churches position that one pray to dead people to interseed on your behalf in order to reduce your time in purgatory.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That's what I just said.

            Because Catholics pray to Mary, and exchange deeds for salvation. That’s not being Christian that’s a cult.

            That's called necromancy.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          No it doesnt, praying to "maria" or any other saints is not asking them for something, but asking them to intercede on your behalf with god.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            That’s Jesus’ role and no one else’s

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            pilpul

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            They can't hear you. Jesus is the only intercessor.

            [...]
            >doesnt know how to pray the Rosary
            its nuts how the Rosary makes heretics absolutely seethe. literally ngmi.
            [...]
            accurate.
            if you seek recognition and reward from man you will receive neither from God.

            Show me the Bible verse where Jesus said pray the rosary.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Literally talmudic treachery levels of mental gymnastics.

            Same could be said of wearing a cross necklace or allowing someone to see you holding a Bible. Adhering to the letter of the law and ignoring the spirit thereof is eating of the leaven of the pharisee.

            A rosery only exists to pray with or as an accessory. The fact that they are seen outside of closets and such is your proof it's for vanity.
            As for cross necklaces, I agree. Carrying a Bible to read is fine but it's just a book, it's the ideas in the book that matter.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yes. But my point is if you are carrying a Bible openly then you are signaling "hey I might be praying even now!". Ultimately my point, though, is Ecclesiastes. All is vanity including arguing whether or not something is vanity. I have my gripes with the catholic church, but I have just as many concerns about the practices I've seen in protestant churches. And those problems overlap, to be honest. What I've seen is churches that only teach the letter of the law. Or mention the spirit but never really explain it. Or explain it but not teach people how to reach for it. The crux of the matter being that each individual church uses the prospect of being labeled a heretic as a means to prevent people from actually trying to grow towards God in a fruitful way. When was the last time you saw a church able to call the Holy Spirit into the room without a 6 man band or a choir?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You worship a man, not God.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        mashallah

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no one cares about your interpretation of semitic sandnagger bullshit

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >if its not in the book compiled by the Church over 200 years after the resurrection then it must be false, even if it's something that sane Church does
      sigh... it's all so very tiresome. protestants are simply ignorant of history, they think the Bible fell out of the sky at pentecost or something baka

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Oh wow, someone gets it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you believe Jesus said "EVERLASTING LIFE" than you must know those who have gone before us are still alive. If you believe Jesus said "... shall never taste death" than you must know Mary, Peter, James, John, Irenaeus, Aphrahat, and your great great grandma are still alive. And when Jesus said "you MUST eat my flesh and drink my blood" you might want to consider attending a church which can provide that for you. And Jesus did mention "those who hear the word of God and DO IT" so you do realize "do it" implies action = work.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        See what I mean.
        This guy is for sure getting the "depart from me" treatment at this rate.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Protestants are heretics and no amount of mental gymnastics will change that

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There’s literally no gymnastics involved except the ones Catholics do to explain why they take the literal Word and change it to fit their feelings…. like progressives and homosexual pronouns

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Catholics lost every war because of God and they're still losing. Even though Luther and many other Protestants didn't have all the answers, Catholics continue to lose. Catholics tried so hard to stop the spread of the gospel. They seethe to this day because they can't kill people over it.
        >the gates of hell won't prevail against it
        There are homosexuals in the Catholic Church. Therefore it's not the true church.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >heretics
        Only members of the faithful can be heretics. Most prots haven't been baptized making them infidels.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >If you believe in good works being required for salvation you’re worshipping idols and not Christ.

      Is this the yank cope for being a sinner their entire life so they can cope with the fact they wont be getting into heaven?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        you certainly aren't doing the works of God while openly admonishing your brothers in Christ. 1 John 5:1

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I follow the left-hand path, bruv.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        It’s a Protestants justification for living a sinful life because they think only calling themselves Christian is good enough.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Catholics have gameified repentance and removes all meaning

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >Never read a catholic catechism before
            Your penance doesn't count with God if you don't truely repent.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Jesus isn't powerful enough on his own to help us refrain from sinning
          Catholics are more blasphemous than islamists.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Enjoy your Sunday service in a leased out mall store, prot.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >the book and nothing but the book also i edited the book!!!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Look at this retard, there’s the Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church that have taught the way it’s supposed to be for almost 2,000 years before you protty israelite came up with this new theology

      Protestants are the original Satanists. Protestantism teaches that the church is a business model and that god loves you exactly as much as the property you own is worth. Protestants literally worship Mammon. Protestantism teaches that the poor are poor for being rotten sinners and the rich are rich as a reward for their moral superiority from god himself. Protestants know nothing about Christian history or Christian law. All they know it money.

      This, don’t forget it was Protestants that first accepted mass usury in Europe thru those fucking israeli kike kidfuckers

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Jesus started Christianity. Constantine started Catholicism. Christians came first. Pagans came before catholics though. Your cult is technically the youngest.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        many people tried to worship Jesus Christ outside of Catholic dogma. they were persecuted, killed, tortured, etc. just because the Catholic church was willing to kill anyone that questioned their dogma, doesn't mean they are good stewards of the teachings of Christ.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        catholicism is satanic, there is only one true church and that's traditional unchanged orthodoxy, if you say otherwise is heresy

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Idols are a physical form of a deity. Now what is christ? What is the cross? God is neither human nor physical

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus was a muslim

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Look up what Martin Luther believed about Mary. Protestants don't even understand the first thing about their own Church, let alone older, more theological sound Churches rooted in the traditions of the apostles

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        But, can't make it an article of faith. Hey, blessed is she among women, amirite?

        "There can be no doubt that the Virgin Mary is in heaven. How it happened we do not know. And since the Holy Spirit has told us nothing about it, we can make of it no article of faith... It is enough to know that she lives in Christ."-Martin Luther

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Year right FUCKING KEK THIS LIAR KIKE SEETHES OR WHAT?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The idea of faith alone without works is a misnomer. How can you say you've full faith, if you're not acting in what Christ commands you to do?

      If you've true faith in Christ, you will carry his message and and will.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This. A fucking jap knows his christianity better than a burger. Figures.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Blessing to you, Japan bro.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Based nipon bro. Remember how israelites nuked your Catholic cities.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      This makes the Catholic seethe, but it shouldn't. CATHOLICS - accept your polytheistic nature. Protestants are right that you have a lot in common with neo-pagans on the New Right. Stop saying israelites are God's chosen people and join your European brothers and sisters in rejecting the rule of the israelite and his Protestant slaves.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        israelites are the perfect symbolism for humanities fallen state. That's why God chose to use them.
        Who else would reject it all so thoroughly and hypocritically?
        And how repentance can be possible for anyone if desired.
        There is a reason Satan focused on them the most. He enjoys perverting creation.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          God didn't choose to use israelites, or to elect them as teachers of humanity, or whatever. Here is a fact that is usually obscured from Christian eyes
          >There is not a single piece of conclusive evidence that Judaism predates Plato
          So everything that happened in the Bible either
          >A) took place during a time of reasonably good record keeping and we should have all sorts of secondary testimony
          OR
          >It was made up

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >>God didn't choose to use israelites, or to elect them as teachers of humanity, or whatever.
            Examples of what not to do is more like it.
            Their rejection of the messiah is symbolic for the human condition. To try and elevate themselves over the divine.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I'm resisting my urge to just start vomiting redpills at you. Are you Catholic?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Please do start vomitting them.
                I'd like to hear.
                And yes, I am.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Well, since you're already Catholic most of my work is done. But the main redpill is that Judaism was created in toto during the struggle over who would control Alexander's empire after he died. Nobody had his natural leadership, so to justify their rule they looked to religion. They took Canaanite myths (basically local religion) and gave them structure based on Greek philosophy. In this new religion, society is run by priests "chosen by God" (for legitimacy) while awaiting the 'coming Messiah' (Philosopher-King from Plato).

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I'd like some proof of that please?
                Even random copypasta pol likes to save and present as proof.
                I was promised redpills, not conjecture.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Memory is actually more powerful than you think. If you look into memory exercises and methods of memorization it's a fact that lay-people can remember accurately a lot of information. This is lost in a world of google maps, internet searches, calculators, and cell phones because our memory is outsourced. Many of the great epics were written from oral tradition.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              As the story goes, of course, israelites don't know how to pronounce YHWH and they don't know the identity or origin of the greatest enemy, Amalek. But the rest they remembered almost perfectly! Just those two minor details escaped their vast and accurate "oral history" lol

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Any statue or symbol is not an idol, this is retarded.

      People need to focus on Matthew more, it's really the foundation of everything.

      Matthew 7:3-5

      3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

      4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

      5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      1. "Pray" literally means "ask". It does not mean worship. Centuries ago someone at a dinner table might say "pass the potatoes, I pray thee". Praying to saints does not equal worship. If you ask someone to pray for you, that's not worship. That's asking a friend to pray for you.
      2. "Contradict the Bible". Sola scriptura isn't even the Bible. A book which you don't understand by the way. Which group do you think is better equipped to interpret the Bible anyway? The Catholic Church, founded by Jesus with Peter as first pope, and which compiled the Bible in the first place? Or one of the thousands of Protestant schisms, some founded as late as the 20th century by proven false prophets, such as the SDAs or the so called JWs (both of whom think Jesus is just an archangel because they use an incomplete Bible, take poetic language literally, apparently can't read the whole Bible, and stupidly think there is only one archangel? The JWs even explicitly say they believe that Jesus isn't God.)
      Protestants just don't make sense. Some have their hearts in the right place. But many just seem to believe in talking smack on the Mother of God, talking smack on the real church, and many Protestants don't even believe in the Divinity of Christ. Go to any Catholic Mass and you will plainly see and hear the worship of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Some have their hearts in the right place. But many just seem to believe in talking smack on the Mother of God, talking smack on the real church, and many Protestants don't even believe in the Divinity of Christ. Go to any Catholic Mass and you will plainly see and hear the worship of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

        I've been in quite a few denominations (even megachurches) and haven't seen one deny the Divinity of Christ, 'talk smack' on the Virgin Mary. etc... The most egregious thing I've seen is removing baptism for making soldiers (Salvation Army).

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          I literally pointed out at least one Protestant denomination that not only denies the Divinity of Christ, and two that claim that He and Michael are the same guy (despite scripture telling us that God never said to an angel "today I have begotten thee".) And many Protestants denigrate Mary and call the Hail Mary prayer blasphemy, despite it being mostly derived from the greeting which the archangel Gabriel gave to her when he made the Annunciation. This was after he had just recently struck the holy man Zechariah dumb for asking him a question. But to Mary he said: "Hail, full of grace! The Lord is with you." And proceeds to tell her that she has found favor with God and will be the mother of Jesus. I've never understood Protestants getting all crazy over Catholics loving Mary. We don't worship her, but we do love and respect her. And if a holy archangel showed her love and respect, maybe doofuses who think the church was "ackshually" delayed from being formed until the time of an insane heretic traitor from German decided to set up a heretical cult in the 1500s should stop kvetching that people like to have statues of her. These same Protestants likely have photos of beloved family members or even sports figures, but if they see a Catholic or Orthodox representation of the holy mother, they start screeching about "idolatry".

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Those aren't denominations they are heretical cults

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >I literally pointed out at least one Protestant denomination that not only denies the Divinity of Christ, and two that claim that He and Michael are the same guy

            I'd like to know who, for the next time someone asks how to be saved. I like to know who to tell them not to go to.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      James chapter 5. Please read it and realize Christ established the priest hood, wants us to have faith that leads to good works (they're married together), and that God uses the priesthood as a means to dispense Christ's grace to us. As it says in James 5 about the sick going to the elders and through their prayers Christ's grace forgives the sick (known as the sacrament of last rights)

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      you worship a book that contradicts itself constantly, also the whole thing was written by israelites, you can't deny that

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        There are no contradictions. Just smolbrains trying to understand that which the mind can't comprehend.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That 1 preacher that gets posted here explains it pretty well and he quotes scripture with each explanation. 1 think he mentions is calling their preachers father (or some variation)

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Pastor Steven Anderson? Yeah... he has a high IQ and studies the bible, but he is definitely NOT someone you should follow. I listened to him for a year. He is full of himself. He also has too much hate for a real Christ follower. It's one thing to preach against the fags, but we are not allowed to hate them. Sorry but no. Love thy enemy.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mean Pastor Steven Anderson? Yeah... he has a high IQ and studies the bible, but he is definitely NOT someone you should follow. I listened to him for a year. He is full of himself. He also has too much hate for a real Christ follower. It's one thing to preach against the fags, but we are not allowed to hate them. Sorry but no. Love thy enemy.

      The most telling incident I think that discredits Steven Anderson as a spiritual leader is the Baker incident, where a pastor whom Anderson personally ordained and vouched for was fired not one year later. Here's a good video if you can spare 2 hrs

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gotta love friars and monks. God bless the religious.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        And thank you for the link. I will watch it. Good night, my based brother fren. Have a meme on me. I captured it in the wild.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Orthodox Christians don't worship israelites

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're smelly, brown, and poor (pick 2 of 3)

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >this
    i wonder what happened to the protestant churches and individuals that followed Jesus in there own way when the bomb went off in hiroshima.
    pic related.. the priests were following the fatima message.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That tweet isn't proof of that, just saying

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No, there were only a couple of wars the protestants waged that does prove it though.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because both catholic and orthodox Catholics worship idols,israelites, and Satan meanwhile Protestant worship Christ himself.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Modern Catholics worship Satan. Orthodox Catholics worship the Tao. Non-denomination worship Christ and the Tao. But, Protestants worship Mammon.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Lmao no . You fucking retard read a book and stop parroting shit you read on kikebook. You prots are a joke.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do Protestants not see Catholics and Orthodox Christians as "Christians"?
    Because you literally aren't.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    why do christians not just kill themselves? world doesn't need religious zealots that become the zionists.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly it's a pain in the arse being a convert from atheist parents.
    >Catholics
    >Idols, Venerating Mary even though Jesus himself placed no importance on her, Calling priests Father, Their own damned version of the wisdom of the elders, Vatican II.
    >Protestants
    >Editing scripture for sola scriptura, Faith without works, No tradition so you've got everything from sodomites to women leading churches and other modernist garbage, rampant zionism
    I just can't win.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He also says "be as perfect as your father in heaven" and "go and sin no more"; you are apparently not able to draw the difference between the free gift of God (salvation) and discipleship

      You are looking for NIFB

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I keep my relationship with God personal
      I know tradition and community are very important but it is so hard these days

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Protestantism is the real catholicism.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do Protestants not see Catholics and Orthodox Christians as "Christians"?
    Because there is no pope in the Bible, and Jesus says specifically that your covenant is whoever you happen to be praying with, not some arbitrary building with a cross on it.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No pope
      >Gives peter the keys
      >Tells peter to look after the flock
      Prots don't realise the church existed from day 1 while their false doctrine only started a few hundred years ago...

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        were Catholics the first Christians?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yes. Catholic means universal. As the bible says. One God, one faith, one baptism.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No. That would be the protestants. The only church unchanged for 2000 years.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek

            It literally says no gods beside him. Protestantism is the only one with the graven images commandment, and that's Muslim-tier. Gets your scripture right.

            t. polytheist

            oi m8. wut gods yoo worship dere m8? love me lughy boi, love me cernny man, h8 me saxneat and jesus boy simple as

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There were protestants when Jesus preached? I'm asking for the first chruch. The one that formed the moment Jesus died. What were they called?

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yes. Protestants where the first christians.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                lel

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Christians

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          no, because Catholics didn't exist until the 4th century.
          People don't understand, to the Romans, that Christian was as much an expletive as nagger is now.
          So Christians existed following the apostles and their selection through to Constantine. He started the catholic church.

          The First Council of Nicaea (/naJˈsiːə/; Ancient Greek: Νίκαια [ˈnikεa]) was a council of Christian bishops convened in the Bithynian city of Nicaea (now İznik, Turkey) by the Roman Emperor Constantine I in AD 325.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This is one hell of a stretch anon.
        Are you a father?
        Would your kids be your flock?
        Would a congregation be a flock to a pastor?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          How is it a stretch? Jesus literally tells Peter he will give him the keys to bind and loose, and to feed his lambs and sheeps and to tend to them..

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Because that's like a Pastor telling his successor the same thing.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yikes anon.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        This. Protestants are so fucking stupid it's unreal.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Catholics don’t realize their church that started on day one was twisted, perverted, and strayed over the years. It’s not what it used to be.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The churches are being guided by vile spirits. American Christianity has become nothing but spiritual oppression. Breaking them from the spirit of false religion is no easy task, they do not want to acknowledge that it is even possible that they could be mislead by a vile spirit. It's possible though, I'm averaging 1 per month.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine being a Seventh Day Adventist and disagreeing with everyone ITT.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In all seriousness much of Protestant sacrament is passed down from the Catholics. And I am grateful for the devotion of the scribes, carefully and painstakingly copying every letter.

    I always smile and wave at a priest, and I think Catholic churches are beautiful. I'm grateful for the sacraments and my hero was at one time a monk.

    I just want to make that clear before we're finished arguing.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because the israeli mind virus is designed to destroy people?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they’re a radical splinter sect.

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Protestants are the original Satanists. Protestantism teaches that the church is a business model and that god loves you exactly as much as the property you own is worth. Protestants literally worship Mammon. Protestantism teaches that the poor are poor for being rotten sinners and the rich are rich as a reward for their moral superiority from god himself. Protestants know nothing about Christian history or Christian law. All they know it money.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Where do you get this nonsense? Also, I thought it was our dumb heathen ancestors who worshipped actual gods of Europe that were the Satanists to you anti-European pope-suckers.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        He's not entirely wrong. Not entirely right either. Half truths are a satans favorite plaything.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't know any better. They don't even know the names of the (false teachers) people who started their "churches". Ask a protty if they are a Calvinist or a Wesleyan, and they just blink a few times. They have not been educated beyond "oh larp for Martin Luther" every October.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Why would it matter? But anyway, Calvanists definitely know that they're Calvanists.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see every real believer as a brother or sister in Christ regardless of denomination. But at the same time, I don't advocate anyone's man made embellishments and doctrines. Whether it was the original embellishment or today's cornucopia of degenerate apostacy pretending to be the faith. Anyone who follows Jesus is with me.. anyone who doesn't is lost.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. Imagine thinking the great and all-powerful God cares about which dumb human rituals you perform.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I actually do believe in the sacraments after all, especially baptism. After all, why would there be such a fuss about them in scripture?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Ruski, you gotta go to mass. You are Russian. You are supposed to be Orthodox!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You're severed from faith in Russia. Which is why your women behave like prostitutes and your men are meak and chase pennies.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine thinking an all powerful God is limited to seeing the world only in its grandeur and not for every fine detail.

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they have fallen for the biggest stumbling block in the Christian faith.
    Pride.
    Specifically the pride in one's works on earth as having any bearing on one's entrance into heaven, all who believe such will be cast into Hell because they rejected Christ.
    That includes the Catholics and the Orthodox and most every kind of Christian you could name. Why do you think Christ said “Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it” if he anticipated organized religion to dominate the earth.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No protestant believes that. If it isnt in the bible it aint protestant. Simple as.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's all in the Bible.
        Jeuss also says he is the door.
        So strait is the gate....narrow is the path.....Jesus is the door....like it couldn't be more clear what they're saying. You need to have a ton of ego to ignore it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous
  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    worthless d&c thread.

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because Catholics pray to Mary, and exchange deeds for salvation. That’s not being Christian that’s a cult.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That shit never happened. Some Syrian nagger trying to score points

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Protestants are all heretics.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Orthodox see Catholics as misleaded and cúcktestants as retarded larpers.

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    To the Catholics in this thread, please at least give this man a listen.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Why I can't be a Roman Catholic
      well, with a nose like that I would also be self-conscious but he can totally repent and be a Catholic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As a former Baptist who still enjoys Pastor Mike Winger, I can tell you this: He will be a Catholic before he dies. He is already halfway there. You should check out Scott Hahn.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I've probably listened to 10 hours while driving of him talking about Catholicism and I can safely say assume you're lying or just wrong.

        I'd be happy to listen to your theory though.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Catholics are alright, except the vow of celebritycy. Forget that. The Protestant founders were former nuns and Padres.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they don't believe in the word of God but instead believe the word of men. that said, the vast majorityof protestants also have no grasp on the Bible. i don't judge the individual, as we are all brothers in Christ, but the Catholic and Orthodox churches are teaching blasphemy. they are organized churches that intentionally pervert the word of God.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Google “The Chosen” and watch.

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Peter means a rock. Tyre also means a rock. Hmmmm...

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I was raised Catholic.

    I legitimately have no idea what the difference between all these different groups is or why we're supposed to dislike each other.

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The catholic/orthodox/many protestant churches teach works based salvation (a false gospel) and lead churchgoers into hellfire. The 11 minute video linked below in the post is the gospel that can save you from hell and get you into heaven if you believe it. You can't work your way to heaven by repenting of your sins, by giving your life to christ, by getting water baptized, or by doing the sacraments. Salvation is by believing the gospel, it has nothing to do with human works.

    The Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ:

    Once Saved Always Saved - a MUST WATCH sermon for people doubting their salvation

    documentary explaining why Christ rejecters that say they're israelites are not God's chosen people. talmudic judaism is depraved, evil, and satanic. And it has nothing to do with Christianity no matter what the satanic shills on /misc/ would say

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Cathocucks and Orthodogs will go to hell for worshipping idols.

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i don´t see anyone as human that doesn´t believe in jesus christ being the son of god who came in the flesh and rose from the dead while doing sick magic tricks and being spooky.

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They do, you nagger. Protestants in general accept all christian denominations. It's caths who don't think prots are christian

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      You haven't met all that many American Prots then. The mainstream denominations are relatively fine (anything above like 5% in terms of demographics) but there are dozens of retarded strip mall churches that insist their version of Christianity is the only possible truth.
      Misc even used to shill one just cuz he didn't like israelites.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Anderson is based and would probably bully you for dissing him on the sneak tho

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          BASED anderson

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            It's a really weak talking point.
            Anderson never aligned with /misc/ on race, just Israel

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              then what worth is he? imagine needing some retarded baptist pastor to tell you to hate israelites

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                His holocaust video is the nicest and normie friendliest I've ever seen and he's got some excellent documentaries. I've played them at work in front of my boss.
                If you want to toss that out because he doesn't hate blacks like most people that's on you.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                well i included the pic so I'll say it even tho it got edited out.
                most of /misc/ are mutts and should not everyone aligns with themselves on race

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >most of /misc/ are mutts
                yeah, like you. thats why you have no problem with naggers like cuckold anderson . how soon until hes outted as a fag?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Nick's Catholic.
                Anderson has like 8 kids.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                how many will marry naggers and asiatics?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Statistically?
                1 or 2 of them. Racemixing isn't a real thing, it's hard enough getting multiple races together to order food, let alone marry.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                christians seem pretty keen on forcing it, lets hope youre right about those odds . i guess we will know in 20 years

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >he showed pastor anderson to his boss
                next i bet youll try to redpill the local based nagger with some of his clips , wow, youre on a roll, bro

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Anderson is not based.

          This video completely destroyed his heretical false doctrine. I do not support everything vaticancatholic says but this video is extremely well made in refuting prots/anderson.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Dimond:
            >"Full veneration of mary is necessary for salvation"
            Anyway, Steven anderson acts if he is demon possessed, jumping on pulpits, screaming often, what a mean angry person, you just know something is wrong with him. I don't pin him as a born again Christian.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I don't agree with everything diamond says. But mary herself told us to pray the rosary. Someone who truely prays it will keep on the path of Christ.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I know, i have met some, but i would count all those as sects.
        Just like Jehova's Wtinesses are not christian, neither are they.

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >sola scriptura
    >removes part you don't like

    Protestants are a joke since day one.
    Don't like them
    Don't respect them
    They worship money

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      meanwhile the Catholic church has stolen countless pieces of history and hid them from the children of God, inside their own personal fortress...

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        most of which are pagan artifacts, so i have more reason to be upset than you
        where booba idol

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          how do you know what is hidden in the Vatican? your have absolutely no idea because there's no reason to trust a church that isn't open and honest with it's followers.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            ive been there. i seen it all. even the mystical onion ring of christ, which he used to wed Saint Catherine of Sienna to himself

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            The pope is a coward that boastfully calls himself "Vicar of Christ" yet hides behind bodyguards and bulletproof glass. What's he afraid of?

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    They are homosexuals. In the villages here the people chase them away with sticks and pitchforks because their homosexualry must not be allowed to take root under any circumstance

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >caring what amerisharts think
    Give them some corn and they’ll go back to sleep

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Do you believe ascending the Scarla sancta on your knees confers any kind of merit with God to you

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      > no answer
      And after holy mother church spent millions of gold transporting every step from Jerusalem to Rome and got so many monks to knee walk that they wore down the stone

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    protestantism is killing real Christianity, and that is a good thing

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Protestant are trash. Thst religion spawned all the great autism in thr world today and completely destroyed Europe.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >250 posts of pointless christcuckery shitflinging
    /misc/ is ngmi

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    and then everybody clapped
    that priest's name?
    Albert Einstein
    edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger!

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Religious people are so stupid and dull

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      THE BOOK SAYS YOU MUST KNEEL WHILE naggerS DISRESPECT YOU

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        american christians and their nagger obsession gives me nausea

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Because they're prideful, arrogant people who think they're better than Jesus. They think Jesus failed to set up a church, they think the Holy Spirit failed to guide the church, and it took protestants coming along 1500 years later to finally get it right.

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason israelites dont consider any of them tobe human

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Protestants are secular heretic homosexuals that belong on a cross

  50. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The israelite religion was not israeli enough for protestants so they sought to remove all non-israeli elements from it.

  51. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    What is the reason behind he massive amount of posts about religion those last few days? Are we experiencing a longing for the religious (spiritual) thought? I've seen massive interest on Twitter too.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      were witnessing the rebirth of a God before our very eyes. its beautiful. I have cried tears of blood for years now, and seen of this coming. The rebirth of God

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Blessed. I've always been Catholic but I was mostly disinterested those last few years. Out of nowhere, I became interested again, and now I'm completely devoted to God.

        Because Jesus is assembling His church for the end days. SGHTF

        Amen.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          not a catholic or a christian but yes, there is a zeal in the air. i think people are sick of demonworld and samsaric delusions

          TO DESTROY THE BARBARIANS, TO BURN THEM TO ASH, WE PRAY

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Because Jesus is assembling His church for the end days. SGHTF

  52. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Catholic confession is a way to technically fulfil The requirement to confess your sin without bringing on the consequences of being exposed. what’s even the point

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      James 5:16
      New International Version

      16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

      In Protestantism we call this 'Spiritual Counseling' also there are altar calls, the band is playing so no one else can hear you. Unless you want to do a circle group, it's also pretty healing.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It's pharisee tier letter of the law pilpul. It provides a way to "let your secrets out" while keeping them secret. Meanwhile the secret places of the heart and mind are open books to the Lord so any thought concerning secrecy is sinful. To a degree at least. The real thing is that it makes the group the proxy. Group prayer is not a bad thing, neither is confessing in a group prayer, but one does not need a group to go to the Lord and ask forgiveness and counsel for how to avoid sinning like that again or to be helped to grow toward God. Anyone could do it, but as things stand most simply won't do it, so the church being the proxy is a sort of way to twist their arm to let others walk them through it. Not entirely a terrible thing but it is sad that the truth winds up being a complete mystery to these sorts because they are just unwilling to put in any effort towards growth.

      I've been exploring how to reach these types of people with pretty interesting success. A little bit of intercession goes a long way.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Catholic confession is a way to technically fulfil The requirement to confess your sin without bringing on the consequences of being exposed. what’s even the point

        You're only accountable to God, there's no point in confessing your sins to other people, confessing to God and then repenting to God is what you should be concerned with. Also God demands forgiveness from everyone, it seems like you want people to be resentful of the sinner as a punishment.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Luther also cut the book of james but it destroys their false doctrine.

          He never cut it. Called it an 'Epistle of Straw' but kept it in.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            In a word St. John’s Gospel and his first epistle, St. Paul’s epistles, especially Romans, Galatians, and Ephesians, and St. Peter’s first epistle are the books that show you Christ and teach you all that is necessary and salvatory for you to know, even if you were never to see or hear any other book or doctrine. Therefore St. James’ epistle is really an epistle of straw, compared to these others, for it has nothing of the nature of the gospel about it.4
            Though this epistle of St. James was rejected by the ancients, I praise it and consider it a good book, because it sets up no doctrines of men but vigorously promulgates the law of God.5

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I agree. James is most beneficial for those who've already been saved and are pursuing sanctification. Below that level and without that relationship it's really just more of the same.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Luther's word, not mine, I should have put quotes.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                I know, I have added I agree with him. The pure gospel is the way to bring a newfag to salvation, books like James are for those seeking more understanding.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Yes but in who's name should you be praying? What is the authority given?

          >>but one does not need a group to go to the Lord and ask forgiveness and counsel for how to avoid sinning like that again or to be helped to grow toward God.
          Yes, but again, how do you keep those things consistent? There are constant arguments about even translating to different current languages. Let alone getting context from something over a millennia ago.
          Believing that God has given you true insight while ignoring your own peers ignores the history and virtues of community. We each only have the capability to truly understand bits and pieces.
          Otherwise, all of the people who have the Holy Spirit in them (and there are many) would come to the same relative conclusion. That is not the case.

          From what I've seen people with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit tend to agree based on their level of growth and disagreements seem to only come from lower/higher levels of understanding having difficulty communicating across that gap. As for translations, one with the Spirit who also walks with God and has not just become lukewarm with the Spirit is not going to be hindered by any translation. The problem is that a backslider can turn around and pretend to still have the indwelling of the Spirit and the common folk don't have the discernment to notice the deceit.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >>tend to agree based on their level of growth and disagreements seem to only come from lower/higher levels of understanding having difficulty communicating across that gap.
            So you're saying that there is value in elders of a church, and that they might have greater understanding than a random layman?
            Sounds like a priesthood. Experienced ones who have spent a lifetime learning and understanding the "correct" interpretations.
            >>one with the Spirit who also walks with God and has not just become lukewarm with the Spirit is not going to be hindered by any translation.
            Sure, they won't be hindered. But how do you prevent the people that are given the flawed translation from being hindered? As you admitted, there are levels of understanding, and only God could overcome a flawed teaching once its out in the wild. A priesthood is a correcting force.
            >>The problem is that a backslider can turn around and pretend to still have the indwelling of the Spirit and the common folk don't have the discernment to notice the deceit.
            So it seems like random missionaries without any sort of accreditation or association isn't the answer. Fishermen take apprenticeships. They learn from others.
            The Holy Spirit gives you understanding through experiences in your life. We are not blessed enough to see the whole thing. Only inclinations something might be wrong or right.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >im just going to continue being and adversary

              Instead of championing this structural priesthood that you are so happy to fellate why not start teaching the common retard that this level of understanding is within their grasp? And thus no priesthood needed because the High Priest is risen? Your doctrine is lousy with vile spirits.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >>but one does not need a group to go to the Lord and ask forgiveness and counsel for how to avoid sinning like that again or to be helped to grow toward God.
        Yes, but again, how do you keep those things consistent? There are constant arguments about even translating to different current languages. Let alone getting context from something over a millennia ago.
        Believing that God has given you true insight while ignoring your own peers ignores the history and virtues of community. We each only have the capability to truly understand bits and pieces.
        Otherwise, all of the people who have the Holy Spirit in them (and there are many) would come to the same relative conclusion. That is not the case.

  53. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Christianity is seeing an overwhelming resurgence thanks to deplorable footment, such Soros, Fink and (Insert israeli criminal here). They're doing incredible things for the wellbeing of the world. Obviously, not in their masters' favor. Organize locally, buy locally and get polically active. They only have this power because of Boomers not caring about anything other than what's on TV next week.

  54. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    People are retarded and egotistical at the same time. Every faction has people with this problem, they care more about their identity than what's important, following Christ.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      this is why i only attack the church and never the followers. we are all brothers in Christ at the end of the day.

  55. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Tell "once saved always saved" people that going to concert is IDOLATRY
    >They all start to demon screech "reee works salvationists, how dare you, you think you are sinlessly perfect?! heretic!!"

    Damn bro, just letting you know being a marvel fan and attending concerts to see your favorite music artist is idolatry. For real, this once saved always saved thing has to be false, those people behave like they are demon possessed sometimes

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      not christian dont get christian theology but the once saved always saved thing sounds like a scam to me christbros

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        OSAS:
        >"We dont have to keep Jesus commandment, do anything he told us, only believe he rose from the dead and now we are guaranteed to go to heaven, even if we fornicate everyday, steal and even murder daily"

        This atheist rekt modern christianity:

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