why do people who pass suddenly lose all empathy for the girls that dont/ cannot? does passing make you incapable of relating to us? is it the distance from the concept of hondom? tell one person who passes that i feel disgusting and the idea of being seen makes me near suicidal and all i get is bullshit about how im "being negative" or "ruining it for the rest of us because you're dragging us down with you". I have been on E for 2.5 years and still look like a man cant you understand how horrible that is ?
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Cuz it brings their truest ugliest self out
if i start being mean will i pass better?
it doesnt feel like this honestly, most of the people who pass who i've talked to are either outright mean or speak to me like im a creature that's beneath them.
But you are beneath them
They're transwomen, you're still some GNC guy...
im trying my hardest 🙁 ive done everything they have to achieve their goal and more
Most of us don’t. This is just a strawman by BDD passoids to project their own lack of empathy onto self-aware passoids.
If you girlmode and make the effort to transition your voice, i will accept you as a woman and be your friend. If you don't do these things i have the following problems:
>being a woman isn't about being hot.
>if you hate yourself too much to try how can i possibly help you? What can i give you that you can't give yourself?
>we all have to cope with extreme dysphoria. We all felt like it was too late and we all had to experience the horrible cringe of walking around in drsg and getting our makeup wrong in order to improve. If you haven't done that, you haven't havent demonstrated you can handle being trans.
>we can't chang ehow cis people think or protect you from cis people. The most i can offer you is to say that i don't care about cis people and will accept you as a woman and be your friend. But if that's not enough for you and i can't affect your mental state at all with my existence, then it feels like i have also failed as a trans woman.
So that's pretty much it, it's on you to demonstrate that you grasp the truth that trans identity is not about passing if you want support from passoids. If the passoid tyou are trying to befriend is a bitch to you no matter what, then that girl is toxic and you need to avoid her.
Some of us, sadly, are toxic and crazy and need to be avoided.
doesnt this belief still feel mean? i have put in every effort i have fixed my hair as much and frequently as i can, learned makeup, voice trained, adopted skin care routines, worked out, learned how to dress, even learned theory behind each of these to understand them and their use better and still do not pass. i get that isnt what the trans experience is about but its what i want more than anything 🙁
the only thing i want in this world is to pass and/ or be pretty and so many girls are here with me. im sorry that people were mean but you have everything the majority of us want
Well look you have to try not to take it personally being trans is hard and sometimes it's just hard to be close to skmeone who shares the same difficultirs. But if you keep trying you can eventually find your trans friends.
i dont really want friends i just kinda wish i was pretty and didnt feel so averse to ever being seen.
so like survivors arrogance? is it all just luck?
>i dont really want friends i just kinda wish i was pretty and didnt feel so averse to ever being seen.
do you feel liek ur close to that goal?
its better than it was before but i would need more to happen and i dont know what would give that at this point
>and i dont know what would give that at this point
fug anon i hope you find out tbh. all i can tell you is pour your heart and soul into it, be tenacious and relentless until death.
i have been doing that from day one and will continue to do it because i have no choice but i dont have much money, i think im becoming suicidal and my doctor thinks i may have cancer
dang
well im here to take your existence and pain in anon. im sorry you had to enter the arena of life as you have tbh.
its genuinely the other way around op wake up
kek you want the sad tortured souls to be happy for the thing they would BE tortured to any extent to have? i dont think thats reasonable anon
Do you know how many women cut contact with me for being a no hormone passoid ? at least you have solace in community.
welcome to being beautiful. it aint all it's cracked up to be.
im not even beautiful. Ive also never been mean to a trans woman that doesnt pass YET. i even want to date one but no one would date me since i cant pull off being a strong stoic man or woman either.
>im not even beautiful
compared to ur friends you are tbh
and as far as being desirable as a woman, i can tell you as a straight cis man im stimulated by female emotion and vulnerability, but i also have a weird emotional trauma and fragility fetish or something tbh
Idk what that is. i have autoandrophilia for being a straight boy sadly but this is just cuz i wanted a boyfriend for years and since i cant get one i wanted to be one for trans women instead. And yeah i have vulnerability its not something i can change
kek dang thas a tough spot to be in tbh. lots of torturous emotion tbh
Yeah and its not even self inlifcted i just dont wanna be a woman anymore. its also not working since everyone blocks me (no bpd med anymore) I cant pull anything off
>I cant pull anything off
lots of variables to get in working order to pull stuff off tbh, mostly in the form of emotions. what are you doing for yourself now?
also im a bit confused as to whether you were born male or female, im struggling to comprehend tbh
Born male cant pull off being male so if youre being nice to court me or something you probably wont reply to my annoying problems. Im doing fine rn although my lack of ability to focus on watching anime/reading/school/having a sleep schedule is more annoying than not having a girlfriend/boyfriend Its ruining my life far more than trans women ignoring me. But yea i just went through losing a lot of friends due to schizo/bpd medication abstaining i can see why you wouldnt reply
>Im doing fine rn although my lack of ability to focus on watching anime/reading/school/having a sleep schedule is more annoying than not having a girlfriend/boyfriend Its ruining my life far more than trans women ignoring me.
kek ya thas the moar important stuff tbh
assuming you arent so fucked up you want to die. sounds liek you want to live.
so ur basically at the furthest extent you've ever brought yourself to passing as a woman right now? is that the path you see as being most likely for you to not be all fucked up emotionally?
YES ive been really afraid of death since i thought id die when i was a kid, the only time im suicidal is when i want attention (ik thats stupid) ok but you brought it up so
Thats not true, i still have long hair and hate boy haircuts. I got extremely bullied when i was a boy (before 12), but i still wear boy clothes rn cuz they make me happy if they are cute and not dark blue. I hope that makes sense. And yes i am actually happy and can talk now since i was afraid of my already girly voice sounding like a boy but now i can be luffy. and my mom said im happy like when i was a kid and didnt have a care in the world now 😀
kek happiness is bretty gud for ur health tbh
i spent most of my life fucking hating happiness and fun tbh
im trying although idk how to go uni with my sleep schedule from tea addictionXD and ii hope youre happy now too why were you sad?
>why were you sad?
everything is fucked everywhere for everyone no matter how gifted fortunate or beautiful you are tbh
ya! but happiness is so funny
ya tbh
it ends up being work for men that already work too hard tho kek
i wont u
REALLY is it ok i still havent taken estrogen 8 years but i shave my body obsessively everyday for 8 years since 12 ughfgvh
why would i care if ur on e?
the shaving every day sounds kind of annoying tho lemme get u laser baby girl
idk people would say social transition is not good enough my parents wont let me get on e though And ok!!! but i think hormones would reduce body hair anyway
ohh i didnt think u wanted e. whats ur disc ??
its cisboy LMFO . and yes i want e its being a woman that i dont really want
that makes sense!! u can just be my pretty little boy
rq sent btww
>why do people who pass suddenly lose all empathy for the girls that dont/ cannot?
because empathy makes you miserable and hurts you at a point
ur basically asking why they dont want to be miserable anymoar tbh
who would if you have the tools required to not be
i can understand this view. i dont want to be miserable anymore either
I pass to society and I feel empathy for trannies who put in effort and still don't pass. if you don't pass and refuse to put in any effort, yeah like that's your own fault.
NGL it's probably insecure BDD passoid laughing at hons to feel better about themselves.
I unironically look at accounts like troonytoons and males in disguise for this reason.
i dont pass and i still hate all your your hon asses anyway
HHI ASA WSG you are a cute girl to me!!!
because if passoids were to accept hons then they have to accept that they are part of the same group, that they arent trutrans, there is no inherent 'trans essence'. its just blind dumb luck. passoids would rather wear their appearance as a shield so they can continue believing they are better than you.
You dont lose empathy for them, you lose empathy for the attention whore who parades around like the gays while dressed up like a hairy e-boita. No effort and want max attention. Those are the same ones that need to be in a constant hug box and lead to the most cringe 'allies'.