Why do pagans always lose?

Why do pagans always lose?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I often ask myself the same question

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    paganism didnt move people towards an ulterior motive, it was just a demonstration of spirituality

    christianity took that spirituality and made man subservient to it by claiming theres judgement after death even though no one can prove it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      People were more subservient in paganism than they were under Christianity

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        show me how vikings were more subservient to paganism than when they converted

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          are you talking about vikings or pagan scandinavians? because there are lots of examples of marauders from christian societies too

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      pagans had judgement after death before Christianity existed.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        subservient means the spiritual world ruled the physical

        there was not a thing a viking wouldnt do, they considered those monks who prayed instead of fighting back to be ridiculous

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >made man subservient to it by claiming theres judgement after death even though no one can prove it
          Pagans already believed this, Christianity introducing their own afterlife didn’t change their opinion. Pagans didn’t hold sacrifices and rituals for no reason, it was their subservience to the Eternal Order that the Gods uphold, in Germanic religion sacrifice is the eternal recreation of the sacrifice Odin made to create the world and instill Spiritual Order from Chaos, and sacrifices specifically to Odin were usually recreations of Odin’s sacrifice of himself on the World Tree as this sacrifice benefitted humanity by granting Odin the knowledge of higher mysteries and the Runes that he later revealed to man. Pagan sacrifice and ritual is all about upholding the spiritual order of things first and foremost, and thus pagans are subservient to the spiritual, pagans praying for material purposes is the same as Christians praying to Christ for some stupid petty shit, every religion has these folk. In reality the average Germanic pagans had a strict ethical code, but their ethics were not the same as Christianity, which is why you think they’d “do anything”, A Monk cowering instead of fighting to the death is seen by pagans as a dishonorable and disgraceful way to die, they’d prefer that Monk fight for his spot in Valhalla, rather than die like a coward on a his knees and go to Hel with the average folk.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >In reality the average Germanic pagans had a strict ethical code, but their ethics were not the same as Christianity
            which is what i said

            paganism is ruled by reality, spirituality homages reality by giving sense to actions and life (dishonor to a viking meant exile from his social group and not being remembered as a great ancestor, not an afterlife of death in literal sense)

            pseudo christianity is ruled by spirituality, reality has to fit certain structure otherwise there are supernatural consequences

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            No they actually believed in an afterlife. Stop larping. The pagans were nothing like you.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            sure, buddy. those vikangs who barely doodled scratches on their stuff sat and pondered about how "Odin made to create the world and instill Spiritual Order from Chaos"

            then they got up, scratched their ass and had an orgy in their mudhuts

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            there's no correlation between literacy and wisdom

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            They pondered about the gods when it came to battle or anything important and they lived in constant fear of random spirits/monsters/pissing off the gods.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >they lived in constant fear of random spirits/monsters/pissing off the gods.
            according to who

            there's no correlation between literacy and wisdom

            did i say they were unwise in their ways?, im saying youre full of shit and making of it way more than it is

            people dont have to have this deep and complex system for it to be wise, thats just you, your ignorance and your arrogance

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >thinking I'm a previous poster

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            According to themselves? According to archaeology? Learn history.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            HAHAHAHA

            ive refuted this argument so many times its pointless

            see this?, its the face of an archeologist after digging nothing but bones in a settlement. not a single tool, anything.

            bones.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            What the hell are you even arguing for anymore. What's your point, I'm lost.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            you are the one arguing without knowing what youre talking about

            using the eddas as if it were a real representation of paganism and not some made up romanticized bullshit from 1300

            i made my point clear here

            paganism didnt move people towards an ulterior motive, it was just a demonstration of spirituality

            christianity took that spirituality and made man subservient to it by claiming theres judgement after death even though no one can prove it

            >In reality the average Germanic pagans had a strict ethical code, but their ethics were not the same as Christianity
            which is what i said

            paganism is ruled by reality, spirituality homages reality by giving sense to actions and life (dishonor to a viking meant exile from his social group and not being remembered as a great ancestor, not an afterlife of death in literal sense)

            pseudo christianity is ruled by spirituality, reality has to fit certain structure otherwise there are supernatural consequences

            why do you even post if you cannot read nor comprehend

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            He’s arguing that the Vikings, or his conception of them from pop culture, were actually based proto atheists unlike the weak and boring Christians.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            And to his credit I believed the same thing when I was 12.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >then they got up, scratched their ass and had an orgy in their mudhuts
            Sure thing, and then Christ’s apostles all had gay orgies after mass too.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Do you think some Christian Saxon in England thought that deeply about his religion either? He probably only knew whatever the priest of his village said.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Material reality and Spiritual reality are one and the same to a pagan. Material Reality does not exist without Spiritual Form. A “Viking” that does not go to Valhalla will go to Hel with most people, most ancestors good or bad go to Hel, even ancestors who are venerated during Alfablot and other holidays are typically in Hel rather than Valhalla unless they died the warriors death. Criminals when in the afterlife got sent to the Corpse-Shore where they’d be chewed on by the Dragon Shame-Striker and they’d have to wade through venom before entering their abode underneath Hel (similar to Tartarus below Hades in Greece). They did have an afterlife in the literal sense, but perhaps you could make an argument that the vague beliefs of reincarnation in paganism prevent a truly eternal afterlife for some.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            all that shit you wrote was made up way after the real pagans and was created as a cope to make up for their lack of grandiose history, they were ashamed of their mudhuts, scratches (runes) and lack of development in every area

            i, however, appreciate their lifestyle

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The pagans did win in Japan

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      No. They didn’t. Christians still rule Japan

      >For instance more than 8 Japanese prime ministers have been Christian despite the fact that Christians only make up 1.5% of Japan’s population

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How many Christian emperors Japan has had?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Nearly 1 but Christians by then had become merciful by the 20th century unlike before so be very thankful

          >Emperor Hirohito offered to order all the Japanese to convert to Christianity to end the imperial religion, but general MacArthur refused, saying it would be wrong to force a whole nation to convert

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >saying it would be wrong to force a whole nation to convert
            Isnt that how christianity was spread like 99% of the time

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            It was mostly spread by local rulers, not imposed by foreign overlords, so no

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Hirohito was a foreign ruler of japan? Damm I've been learning my history in the wrong place then

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Emperor Douglas MacArthur

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            kek

            There’s actually letters by the Japanese to MacArthur comparing him to Christ

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Beat them so bad the Japanese never recovered

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >ve vill penetrate ze cabinets and take notes from our israeli brothers

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Are you completely sure about that?

      > The Humanity Declaration is an imperial rescript issued by the Emperor Shōwa (Hirohito) as part of a New Year's statement on 1 January 1946 at the request of the Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers. In the rescript, which started with his citation of the Five Charter Oath of 1868, the Emperor denied the concept of him being divine.

      It’s over.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >a guy stopped being divine
        >therefore the main religion stops being legit
        Is this why Christians shriek so hard when you point out that Jesus never existed?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      I like how they all don't give even a lick of a frick

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Seventy years ago, two exceptionally strong typhoons hit and seriously damaged scores of U.S. Navy ships engaged in the last battles of World War 2, killing more than 800 Americans.
      >The resulting losses included three destroyers capsized and sunk, several other ships heavily damaged, and 146 planes on aircraft carriers destroyed when they broke loose and slid across decks, sometimes starting fires when their fuel tanks split. After the storm ended 790 officers and enlisted men were either dead or washed overboard and presumed killed.
      >The typhoon seriously damaged U.S. ships and shore facilities on Okinawa, sinking 12 U.S. ships or boats, and washing 222 ships or small craft ashore as well as destroying most of the island’s military facilities.
      >Unlike the 13th century storms, the 1945 typhoons didn’t save Japan from defeat.

      The Shinto gods are strong, but their powers are limited

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pagan steppechads always mog the frick out of christchuds and mudslimes. Then the steppechads convert to appease new subject and turn to shit almost immediately after

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      But Hungarians were defeated by Otto the great, who was a Christian. It was after this defeat that Hungarians had to settle down and convert to Christianity.

      Same goes for the Avars who were finally defeated by Charlemagne and then had to convert.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >It was after this defeat that Hungarians had to settle down and convert to Christianity
        consider learning some history before posting on the history board christroony

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Well, it’s true.

          > The Battle of Lechfeld was a series of military engagements over the course of three days from 10–12 August 955 in which the Kingdom of Germany led by king Otto I the Great annihilated the Hungarian army led by harka Bulcsú and the chieftains Lél and Súr. With this German victory further invasions by the Magyars into Latin Europe were ended.

          > The German annihilation of the Hungarian army definitively ended the attacks of Magyar nomads against Latin Europe.[16] The Hungarian historian Gyula Kristó calls it a "catastrophic defeat".[32][b] After the defeat, the Hungarians reached the end of almost a century as Europe's dominant military.[33]

          > After 955, the Hungarians completely ceased all campaigns westwards. Paul K. Davis writes, the "Magyar defeat ended more than 90 years of their pillaging western Europe and convinced survivors to settle down, creating the basis for the state of Hungary."[36]

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Where's the part where they convert after the battle christgay? That didn't happen until some 80-90 years after

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Well, what else where they to do eventually after their defeat? They didn’t have much options.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Not convert to christianity

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Pagan “steppe chads” can’t create a long lasting and functioning state to save their lives, which is why they always need to convert to Islam or Christianity. If they don’t do that then whatever they’ve conquered eventually just ends up very quickly collapsing into irrelevance.

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    At the time the only europeans civilizations Rome, Greece and several Barbarian kingdoms were christian. The only pagans that existed were still thousands of years behind them so could never actually militarily defend their lifestyle once christcucks started their insanity (YOU MUST WORSHIP israeliteHOVAH!). Thus the remaining pagans lost because they were uncivilized stupid savages as Christians put it.

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Pagans taking Ls all across the globe

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    simple, they're weak.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >reign for hundreds of thousands of years
    >monotheism takes hold for MAYBE 2 thousand and even that is up for debate
    >after this tiny span, monotheism begins to vanish except for in the third world
    >this is "losing"
    lol no

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      You know nothing about 'Muh old ways'. Everything believed about paganism was reconstructed from Christian sources (lol) mostly in the 19th century by edgy larpers just like you!

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      as old as human language are the old religions with their values and monotheism is an invented political movement with the values of a few men thousands of years ago compared with the values of nations from the beginning of humanity.,

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Isn’t Europe currently getting conquered by Muslims though?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That's not how the Bible tells it.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because Paganism is moronic and couldn’t compete with the Abrahamic religions theologically. Hinduism survived because it was the only pagan religion that could.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Probably because they are intentionally crushing the Tabernacle of G-D encased in that deteriorated concrete below Heel Stone.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because usually "pagans" are less organized that well estabilished religions like christianity or Islam and they aren't necessarily attached to big empires or nations, so they end up being stomped by the war machine of the other bigger religions.

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What gave you the notion that Pagans always lose?? There's India, Japan, and much of the SE Asian countries where Christianity FAILED! Now you've lost much of Europe, and the only thing "christian" about them are the state churches! Mexico and much of South America are syncretized with pre-Christian religions. Missionaries are an anachronism, and only a few want to go on a mission anymore!

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because paganism didn't offer much for the common man. Generally, only great heroes and aristocrats enjoyed a proper afterlife, and only the wealthy could offer sacrifices that were good enough to earn the favor of the gods.

    But Christianity came along with a message that anyone who believed in Christ could have his prayers answered and go to Heaven when he died. If you were a slave or a peasant farmer or whatever in antiquity, this would seem like the most amazing religion ever, and you'd gladly convert.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Too many homosexuals.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Lost state support because the church was a more loyal ally, especially early on when they were completely reliant on state protection against the pagan majority

    In pagan lands, christianity provided both allies in terms of already converted rulers, more trade, and also provided a rival ideology to claim legitimacy through in comparison to other pagan lords.

    People also never converted en masse of their own will. Historically speaking, conversion was a matter of converting the elite, who will afterwards outlaw the pagan faith and force the normies to go to church under the threat of death. The romantic image of preachers converting the masses through sheer force of charisma and righteousness is a product of the romantic era, it never existed.

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