46 thoughts on “Why do Jeans back in the day look so different that what we have now?

  1. Anonymous says:

    Right now I’m watching Stagecoach (1939) and there is something about the jeans that I can’t quite put my finger on it.

    It’s just so sexy, so masculine. but one thing I notice is that there are something about how tight the butt area was of the jeans back in the days. idk if it’s true or not though

    • Anonymous says:

      >there are something about how tight the butt area was of the jeans back in the days. idk if it’s true or not though
      It is. Rises were higher in the front and the back, and back pockets sat higher which emphasized the ass. Modern denim has been going in the opposite direction. Rises have gotten lower to accommodate growing guts and back pockets sit lower as a result. And the of course you have stretch fabric being used as a crutch to make up for competent pattern making.

      The cheapest you’ll find similar cuts now are Levi’s 501 STFs (avoid any non STF pair) or Wrangler 13MWZ. Then look at something like Sugar Cane or TCB repro cuts ala SC1947s or TCB 50s. They’re basically 1:1s of jeans from that era

        • Anonymous says:

          wrangler 13mwz is unchanged since 1962 the only modernizations since have been the zipper fly and the cheapo plastic patch they replaced the leather one with. and wrangler also managed to pull off making a slim cut 936den without making it some overly modernized bullshit its very in the spirit of the original.

          • Anonymous says:

            >wrangler 13mwz is unchanged since 1962 the only modernizations since have been the zipper fly and the cheapo plastic patch
            That explains why they fit so nice. As far as the patch goes, I always remove them with a seam ripper, takes only a couple minutes to do.

          • Anonymous says:

            Pretty sure they’ve always been zipper fly since their 11MWZ predecessor, hence the Z in the model name.

          • Anonymous says:

            11mw was button fly until it got the zipper fly and model number change in 1952** got the year wrong oops

    • Anonymous says:

      https://i.imgur.com/F5l3zc8.png

      pic related

      https://i.imgur.com/VnFbTgc.jpg

      Stagecoach

      https://i.imgur.com/vVSLhkK.jpg

      your average modern day 501 doesn’t look like that though, so what’s really going on here beside the fact that it was "heritage"

      buy reproduction instead of modern crap

  2. Anonymous says:

    >Higher quality
    >Sanforized
    >High waisted

    Basically the main thing to keep in mind is that they were letting their jeans hang lower and looser to show that they were cool/rebellious. But since the jeans are high-rise it actually looks good as opposed to the modern day "showing half your ass" look. Look for vintage Wrangler BlueBell jeans if you want a similar look, I would suggest 501’s but that has gotten quite granular so I cbf

    • Anonymous says:

      your average modern day 501 doesn’t look like that though, so what’s really going on here beside the fact that it was "heritage"

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s just the straight leg cut. Literally any heritage selvedge cut looks exactly like this.

        or maybe you arent james dean lol

          • Anonymous says:

            it does play a role there but if you cut the top half of his body, the aura is still there

            btw i noticed this kinda cut on lee jeans, go and look

          • Anonymous says:

            yes they’re supposed to fit nearly skin tight in the thigh and upper block, then loose below the knee if you want a 1950’s type look or a modern cowboy look.
            pre-war you’d be wearing them very loose. that’s when jeans swapped from strictly workwear to a fashion item.

          • Anonymous says:

            shit may aswell try womens jeans at this point kek

            are they gonna have that shitty loose fit around thigh since women have wider hips tho? i checked some dude on yt and it looked pretty good more often than not. he tried multiple different pants

          • Anonymous says:

            >are they gonna have
            is entirely up to your ability to pair a cut to your body shape.
            if you want an autistic shortcut to knowing your body type and want to actually get it right:
            take a full body selfie in your underwear or naked
            trace the outline of your body in a new photoshoop layer
            overlay this over jeans you’re looking at. scale it to the width of the waistband not the length of the product photo pics (you hem them to length)
            focus on the thigh, where your thigh meets your hip, the hip, and the seat. look for jeans about the same shape as your body.
            everyone’s upper thigh hip waist area is shaped a bit differently based on fitness level body morph etc. if you look at that chart of levi’s 501 revisions even among that same line of jeans they varied a lot in what body shape they’re meant to accommodate.
            apply this knowledge & you’ll get a kino fit in the thigh every time.
            >that shitty loose fit around thigh
            nah that shitty loose fit is because jeans stretch a lot in the thigh and knee area with wear. if you dont size tight then add that stretch to it, it becomes too much and you get that shitty loose fit. by going tight and accounting for the stretch to happen you get that james dean elvis greaser type 50s fit.

  3. Anonymous says:

    >autistic shortcut
    or if you live near a major enough city that would have a reproduction denim retailer (la pdx seattle nyc etc) you could do it the old fashioned way and actually try shit on of course.
    my autism tip is good if you live in the middle of nowhere with no access to trying these things on.

  4. Anonymous says:

    >13 inch front rise
    >17 inch back rise
    stupid expensive but i got a pair off friend and they are the most comfortable and best looking jeans i’ve ever owned

  5. Anonymous says:

    They’re different cuts, you can get older style replica jeans from TCB which is the best imo, but it isn’t just the jeans, the jackets were shorter back then too, because the jeans were high rise and they tucked in their shirts. Finding jackets that are shorter too will be more difficult imo.

  6. Anonymous says:

    So, for the Wrangler fans here. what do you all think of the 936 raws vs the 13s? I know they should be fairly similar, but I find the 13s just fit a good deal looser unless they’ve been washed/dried a ton.

    • Anonymous says:

      If 13mwz are loose on you, you need 936. Neither is better or worse than the other. The 13mwz is good for big thighs or if you want a looser fit while the 936 basically only looks good if you’re skinny

      They’re different cuts, you can get older style replica jeans from TCB which is the best imo, but it isn’t just the jeans, the jackets were shorter back then too, because the jeans were high rise and they tucked in their shirts. Finding jackets that are shorter too will be more difficult imo.

      >Finding jackets that are shorter will be more difficult
      Go vintage. You can find old Lee or Wrangler jackets on eBay for cheap depending on the condition they’re in. Picrel is me in an 80s 126MJ. I settled on it after finding nothing short enough from my go to denim brands. I considered going the custom route from SoSo, but I don’t trust them to shorten their default pattern by 4+ inches and still make something worthwhile

  7. Anonymous says:

    High waisted, slimmer in the seat, selvedge denim made before mass production
    There’s a reason all these repro brands out of Japan are so autistic about getting their products as close as possible to this era

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