You are probably not worth the trouble of getting in a relationship with, but guys only realize that after a while dating, at which point they thing they have gone too far too give up to come back empty handed, so they fuck you as that's all the trouble you are worth
Tl;dr the guy cuts his losses after he realizes you aren't worth it
>OP it's either this, or you made him wait too long for sex that wasn't that good.
They are one in the same thing, of course
But yeah, what guy is going to walk away after having glorious, beautiful, filthy sex with a girl who they actually like and is easy to get along with? Has to be <10% of guys, and all of those guys are fucked in the head, so good riddance if they walk away early on instead of wasting a bunch of your time
Therefore, if you know you're easy to get along with, and a good fuck, and a guy still does this to you? Then you know he's nothing but a gigantic homosexual and you should celebrate, not cry
Yeah, except that she's probably not that great. Or this wouldn't happen to her repeatedly.
A big part of the problem is that women cannot differentiate their appeal as a sexual partner from their appeal as a relationship partner. Go into the ATOGA thread and see for yourself.
>Yeah, except that she's probably not that great. Or this wouldn't happen to her repeatedly.
Well look, she doesn't have to be that great. She doesn't even have to be GOOD, hell she barely has to be mediocre. As long as she's easy to get along with and just.. a decent person? And she likes to take the cock, of course. No sane guy is going to walk away from that girl, why would they?
>A big part of the problem is that women cannot differentiate their appeal as a sexual partner from their appeal as a relationship partner
I guess I'm not sure if I can differentiate that either? I don't think you can be a good relationship partner if you're not a good sexual partner. I guess maybe you can be a good sexual partner without being a good relationship partner, MAYBE
I think what a lot of women might not realize is that they're just straight up not good people lol. Not good anything partners, not good at anything either. They're a net fucking drain on everyone around them, their positives, if they have any, don't come close to making up for their negatives
I mean think about it, if a guy is using you for sex.. HE DOESN'T GHOST YOU! He keeps using you for sex! If a guy who had the intention of using you for sex fucking ghosts you, god damn what the hell were you doing? How annoying do you have to be to run off a person who was just there for the sex anyway?
>I guess I'm not sure if I can differentiate that either?
That much is obvious. But to be fair, that's pretty common among women, particularly young women. >I don't think you can be a good relationship partner if you're not a good sexual partner.
Yes >I guess maybe you can be a good sexual partner without being a good relationship partner, MAYBE
You definitely can. At least from a male perspective. You don't even have to get along a little bit. A lot of men will fuck a woman that they hate if they think she'll satsify them. Men do not conflate sex with emotions and relationships in the same way that women do. At least not early on. >I think what a lot of women might not realize is that they're just straight up not good people lol
That part is definitely true. But they've been trained to think that being a selfish little girl isn't just their right, it's their duty. And since society doesn't openly punish them for it, they have no reason to stop. >if a guy is using you for sex.. HE DOESN'T GHOST YOU! He keeps using you for sex! If a guy who had the intention of using you for sex fucking ghosts you, god damn what the hell were you doing? How annoying do you have to be to run off a person who was just there for the sex anyway?
Actually that comes back to what I was talking about earlier. A man might not care early on if a woman is shit, as long as he can fuck her. But he's still only going to put up with her shitty personality for so long before he gets over her and moves on. And it's usually sooner rather than later.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>But to be fair, that's pretty common among women
I'm a guy, btw
>A lot of men will fuck a woman that they hate if they think she'll satsify them
Yeahhhh that sounds good in theory, but you go try fucking a girl you really hate, especially a girl that's hurt you. Let me know if it was satisfying or worth it in the end lol
Girls will do the same shit, btw
>Men do not conflate sex with emotions and relationships in the same way that women do. At least not early on.
Pft, yeah right. Guys are just as bad if not worse about that shit. Granted, you might be right that it comes at a later point in the relationship
>That part is definitely true. But they've been trained to think that being a selfish little girl isn't just their right, it's their duty. And since society doesn't openly punish them for it, they have no reason to stop.
Hmm except society can do whatever the fuck it wants to me and I'm still going to do whatever I damn well please. What stops me from acting like these selfish cunts is.. something that's like, ingrained into me. I'm pretty much compelled to be a decent person. It hurts me if I hurt someone else, and I feel bad if I could help someone and choose not to, and I'm allergic to lying like I'm fucking George Washington
I don't care about society or its punishments. Society can all gather up and collectively suck my ding dong dick. Society plays damn near 0 part in how I choose to behave. I'm not sure society's punishments are the cure to these selfish, narcissistic demon women. Well, unless that punishment is burning them at the stake, which would work just fine
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I've seen it all for myself. Maybe a 23 year old kid will shed some new light on it for me, but I have yet to see it.
I assume you mean that you seek a relationship while guys just want to fuck you. If thats the case, then you are either chasing after bad guys or presenting yourself as a girl to fuck but not have a relationship with. Maybe both.
Think of it this way, without bringing up sex, what do you bring to a man in terms of a relationship? Why should someone date you?
>Think of it this way, without bringing up sex, what do you bring to a man in terms of a relationship? Why should someone date you?
this
tho for most women the answer is "nothing" unfortunately
Just think about it critically. Why would a guy have sex with a girl but not be in a long term relationship with her?
Because she's attractive enough to him to fuck but not to commit to.
In other words, you are pursuing men that are out of your league. Lower your standards by about 2 points on a 1-10 scale.
guys cant honestly like you unless they've had sex with you first. that's just how it is. the smart guys know this and we don't care how many dudes you've fucked as long as you're cool. the incels will cry and complain that you're not some innocent princess but who fucking cares.
Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with. If they don't respect themselves enough to save themselves why should I give even the slightest shit?
>Smart men only date and marry virgins. If you do anything else you're a homosexual >Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with
ok homosexual
Because they've been allowed to. If you have sex without commitment, it enables men to use you. Not all men will do that, but any man who is so inclined has free reign, and all he has to do is the song and dance in the first few panels of that comic. He just has to make you feel comfortable to get sex, but he doesn't actually have to stick his neck out for anything.
This is the exact opposite of what any sane woman interested in commitment should be doing.
By not living together, sharing finances, or having sex outside of marriage--and this goes for both men and women--you deliberately exclude any factor but personal compatibility in a relationship. Why would a man stay with a woman without any of that for 2 or 3 years before marriage, and then decide to spend the rest of his life with her, if he didn't genuinely like her as a person? Conversely, it's common to the point of cliche for a man to have no long-term intentions with a woman, but to be content with convenient sex or ease of living for as long as she allows.
It factually works. Even controlling for religion, those who wait until marriage both divorce less and have happier marriages.
Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with. If they don't respect themselves enough to save themselves why should I give even the slightest shit?
The immorality of others isn't license to be immoral oneself.
>Why would a man stay with a woman without any of that for 2 or 3 years before marriage, and then decide to spend the rest of his life with her, if he didn't genuinely like her as a person
You guys are starting the make the women seem rational, if only because they've actually experienced this and found out the hard way that, yes a man will stay with a woman for 2 or 3 years even if he doesn't intend to commit. If a man finds reliable pussy, he will NOT let that go unless you actually continues to improve his game and can reliably get dates. The OP comic is correct in the sense that men lie about their intentions all the time, and especially lie to themselves about what they want. It isn't discipline or will or any idealistic bullshit that keeps people together, at the end of the day there is nothing that forces people to stay together in our modern world. The only thing that works is the fear that each partner won't be able to find another partner as compatible as the current one (bird in the hand, etc.), or if they're experienced enough (fucked enough people) to know what makes a person reliable or not. Statistics are always meaningless when you actually find yourself in the situation it's trying to describe. That's the problem with men these days, no life experience.
>guys cant honestly like having sex with you unless they've had sex with you first.
ftfy.
Because they've been allowed to. If you have sex without commitment, it enables men to use you. Not all men will do that, but any man who is so inclined has free reign, and all he has to do is the song and dance in the first few panels of that comic. He just has to make you feel comfortable to get sex, but he doesn't actually have to stick his neck out for anything.
This is the exact opposite of what any sane woman interested in commitment should be doing.
By not living together, sharing finances, or having sex outside of marriage--and this goes for both men and women--you deliberately exclude any factor but personal compatibility in a relationship. Why would a man stay with a woman without any of that for 2 or 3 years before marriage, and then decide to spend the rest of his life with her, if he didn't genuinely like her as a person? Conversely, it's common to the point of cliche for a man to have no long-term intentions with a woman, but to be content with convenient sex or ease of living for as long as she allows.
It factually works. Even controlling for religion, those who wait until marriage both divorce less and have happier marriages.
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The immorality of others isn't license to be immoral oneself.
>If you have sex without commitment, it enables men to use you. Not all men will do that, but any man who is so inclined has free reign
pretty much. And nearly every guy you're going to meet is going to be like
Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with. If they don't respect themselves enough to save themselves why should I give even the slightest shit?
to use it to the fullest or convince you its the new status quo.
>Why would a man stay with a woman without any of that for 2 or 3 years before marriage, and then decide to spend the rest of his life with her, if he didn't genuinely like her as a person
You guys are starting the make the women seem rational, if only because they've actually experienced this and found out the hard way that, yes a man will stay with a woman for 2 or 3 years even if he doesn't intend to commit. If a man finds reliable pussy, he will NOT let that go unless you actually continues to improve his game and can reliably get dates. The OP comic is correct in the sense that men lie about their intentions all the time, and especially lie to themselves about what they want. It isn't discipline or will or any idealistic bullshit that keeps people together, at the end of the day there is nothing that forces people to stay together in our modern world. The only thing that works is the fear that each partner won't be able to find another partner as compatible as the current one (bird in the hand, etc.), or if they're experienced enough (fucked enough people) to know what makes a person reliable or not. Statistics are always meaningless when you actually find yourself in the situation it's trying to describe. That's the problem with men these days, no life experience.
>The only thing that works is the fear that each partner won't be able to find another partner as compatible as the current one (bird in the hand, etc.), or if they're experienced enough (fucked enough people) to know what makes a person reliable or not. Statistics are always meaningless when you actually find yourself in the situation it's trying to describe. That's the problem with men these days, no life experience.
fear works, but is simply not reliable. All it takes is a little bit of braveness from anywhere to break that kind of bond. Compatibility is far more reliable. Whether the compatibility results in wild times, or in stable times doesn't matter, but having similar goals and outlooks on how to make your way in the world makes traveling the metaphoric road of life more productive.
>>guys cant honestly like having sex with you unless they've had sex with you first. >ftfy.
another virgin. sex is always good, even when it's bad.
>pretty much. And nearly every guy you're going to meet is going to be like
Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with. If they don't respect themselves enough to save themselves why should I give even the slightest shit?
to use it to the fullest or
guys cant honestly like you unless they've had sex with you first. that's just how it is. the smart guys know this and we don't care how many dudes you've fucked as long as you're cool. the incels will cry and complain that you're not some innocent princess but who fucking cares. (You) convince you its the new status quo.
every man will agree because it's the truth. you don't think i wish the world worked in a different way? but regardless of what i will believe, life will continue to go on defying my wishes.
>fear works, but is simply not reliable. All it takes is a little bit of braveness from anywhere to break that kind of bond. Compatibility is far more reliable. Whether the compatibility results in wild times, or in stable times doesn't matter, but having similar goals and outlooks on how to make your way in the world makes traveling the metaphoric road of life more productive.
you didnt really say anything of value here. you're more likely to get along with people who think like you? well no shit, but that doesn't mean those people will want to stay together. fear keeps people in line, and experiences allows you to figure out what you want in a person and who's compatible with you. >Whether the compatibility results in wild times, or in stable times doesn't matter
of course it matters! are you kidding me? i would rather be in a stable relationship with someone who's a little different than have an awful chaotic relationship with someone who likes the same movies as me or something irrelevant. just because we share life goals that doesn't make us friends, it may even make us competitors, and we'll fight over the specifics of the goal.
the statement was the only thing that works is fear. that is false. feel free to defend such a position.
>you don't think i wish the world worked in a different way?
clearly not enough to act the way you think it should. But thats okay. Everyone falls short of their ideals. Some of us just excuse it in different ways from others.
>the statement was the only thing that works is fear. that is false. feel free to defend such a position.
you're a homosexual. all you did was refute my point and failed to offer an alternative, which is what every virgin does, male or female. i explained very thoroughly why your "compatibility" angle is 100% pure made up fantasy, and you're deflecting instead of addressing the points i made. >But thats okay. Everyone falls short of their ideals.
having fun virtue signaling on LULZ?
>guys cant honestly like you unless they've had sex with you first
But the reason I want to fuck a girl is because I like her, either for looks or personality.
Duuno. I went for the relationship every time and each time the girl ghosted me. I'm attractive, pleasant, a decent circle of friends and (at one point) was making 160k for working half the year. None of it mattered. Just luck of the draw.
>Why do guys keep doing this to me?
You are not a woman. But a real woman knows that happens to her because she only dates Chad. However she likes it so she doesn't mind.
because you're really really bad at picking partners. don't feel bad about it. everyone is bad at picking partners for themselves. it's why we used to have family members arrange things for us instead.
Men are motivated by sex first and foremost
So if they have sex and are not willing to be in a relationship with you to continue having sex with you this means two things >they feel they can do better than you >they have other girls who are less trouble than you
So your problem stems from only having sex with guys who are too good for you.
They can easily get better women than you
And you are way too much trouble to keep around
So you wither have to go for less value men
or increase your value
Become prettier
more interesting
funnier
smarter
more fashionable
more easy to talk to
>Once you can do that you can keep a man
it's way too late (she's too promiscuous and broken) for her to improve to get/keep a better man at this point. she'll have to lower her standards.
Yeah, I mean, that seems to be dating culture now. You have loose women and loose men out there who just fuck each other, and yet male sexual inactivity is on the rise on average, so therefore the men that are sexually active are competing against a smaller group of competitors, in a large field of women which makes them far less likely to settle down. Pair that with divorce risk and what you get is a culture where long term commitment is essentially discouraged.
So that's the game you're playing. Now you have to be better at vetting men and what they're after
>Pair that with divorce risk and what you get is a culture where long term commitment is essentially discouraged.
Divorce risk doesn't discourage commitment, it discourages marriage
Also not sure how less men being sexually active somehow discourages commitment
>Also not sure how less men being sexually active somehow discourages commitment
because men who are sexually active have access to more women
less competition for them
so them picking one woman and settling down is not as attractive an option as having multiple women
The problem now a days with really high value men is that they dont want to commit because they can get women easily with dating apps social media
the problem with women is that the only guys they date now a days are those guys
so they have a hard time finding someone to commit to them
the normal guys who would commit to a girl are not sexually active, nor are they the men woman are attracted to subcounsciously
in their mind they want a nice guy who will commit to them, but emotionally and biologically they do not feel attraction to that guy so they are left with the guy who will dump them the moment they feel they can get someone better
>in their mind they want a nice guy who will commit to them, but emotionally and biologically they do not feel attraction to that guy so they are left with the guy who will dump them the moment they feel they can get someone better
Okay but that's just them being retarded
If they got the supposedly "high value" guy to commit to them, they'd still leave thinking they can find someone better lol
>Okay but that's just them being retarded
retarded in a logical sense
but choosing a partner to women is never logical
it's basically just a biological response to desirable traits
so they have to fight their biology to get with a guy they dont find attractive
so yea they are left only feeling attraction to that high value guy that will never commit to them like you surmised
>it's basically just a biological response to desirable traits
No it's not. The truth is these women just aren't ready to settle down yet. They don't want to commit to a man, but they must not want to say that out loud, so they blame the men all the time instead of just admitting they aren't ready to settle down..
>so they have to fight their biology to get with a guy they dont find attractive
Like I said, it doesn't matter who they get with. You act like if they could only find a "high value" man who would commit to them, they would be content and they'd both live happily ever after.. bullshit. The bitch wants to keep playing the field, she's gonna keep playing the field, it doesn't matter who that guy is or how "valuable" he is
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>playing the field, she's gonna keep playing the field, it doesn't matter who that guy is or how "valuable" he is
what you're saying is true
women will only stay with a guy if they feel that's the best they can get
but, many relationships last a long time actually and still do
and why is that?
it's because girls get with a guy that at the moment they feel is the best guy they can get
and the more time spent together if the guy is an actually high value man time will bond them together more and more until it becomes infeasible for that woman to get with a better guy or get with a guy who can provide more.
because as time goes on the women's value keeps dropping
so unless she's in her teenage years the longer a relationship goes if the man keeps his shit together the less likely a woman can find a better guy
but yea, you're right, the guy has to be the best option at the moment for the girl to like him
and the less time they're together the more likely the women will be distracted by the new shiny thing
You want the real answer:
Because you are solipsistic, self-absorbed, and think the world revolves around you.
Ok, there ARE guys who are straight up manipulative liars, but that comic is textbook BPD whore shit. Guy takes too long to answer your text because he was stuck on the toilet or something then damaged goods BPD whore chick is like "Waaa! How can you do this to ME? You didn't answer my text quickly because my boobs are big enough for you!"
Neurotic girl takes everything as a sign of criticism or abandonment, acts like Taylor Swift in the "Blank Space" lyrics, and then eventually he has had enough and exits the stage. Then neurotic whore is like "waah, he just used me for sex!"
Guys are human beings, they have thoughts and feelings, normal insecurities and foibles, but then they have to hide them or else they'll pounded into the floor by bullies and harangued by women.
Like those situations where the guy doesn't keep up with housework because he's depressed, low-T, hates his job, saddled with daddy issues. Then chick is like "Waaah! You didn't do the housework because you don't love me!"
>Guys are human beings, they have thoughts and feelings, normal insecurities and foibles, but then they have to hide them or else they'll pounded into the floor by bullies and harangued by women.
This one hits really hard. It sucks feeling like I need to keep everything around a woman, or else she'll leave me for some stone-cold psycho. The times I've opened up to a woman I've been dating have ended in disaster.
It feels like I need to be some kind of fucking robot.
Hah, this reminds me of on time with my most recent ex gf. I don't remember what the hell we were talking about, but I remember her response to whatever I said was "well.. men don't have feelings.." I had to laugh at this because it's such a ridiculous thing to say, but the scary part is she wasn't really joking. She kinda knew it was ridiculous, but at the same time, that's as far as she had ever thought things through-- she's been living her entire life operating under that notion. That shit is both ridiculous and scary lol
>It sucks feeling like I need to keep everything around a woman, or else she'll leave me for some stone-cold psycho
Nahhh, don't worry, she won't LEAVE you, she just won't care at all
And she won't leave for some psycho, she'll just leave, then stumble upon the next guy in her journey. Probably some other nice guy like you, actually
>The times I've opened up to a woman I've been dating have ended in disaster.
It feels like I need to be some kind of fucking robot.
Because they don't care and they don't want to care. Too much effort for them, rather just find a new guy that doesn't require them putting in any effort at all
Note that they were prolly going to leave pretty soon out of boredom anyway, so it hardly matters what you did or said
What you ought to do is just "open up" to them ASAP, then you weed out a chunk of the demons early on rather than wasting a bunch of time only to find out they're a demon much much later
> Hah, this reminds me of on time with my most recent ex gf. I don't remember what the hell we were talking about, but I remember her response to whatever I said was "well.. men don't have feelings.."
It really is unbelievable how a woman can unironically think like this. I wonder how many women out there actually share this sentiment. It kind of makes sense how women are usually the one to ghost, because in their minds, it's exactly > Too much effort for them, rather just find a new guy that doesn't require them putting in any effort at all
This is the grim reality of it, and it sucks big time.
> What you ought to do is just "open up" to them ASAP, then you weed out a chunk of the demons early on rather than wasting a bunch of time only to find out they're a demon much much later
Yeah I did this the other month. I've mentioned this story in a few threads so you might've seen it, but I had a girl I was seeing for a few weeks come on to me hard, invite me up to her place date two (mind you, after asking me what I wanted and saying "I don't want to do any stupid casual stuff", and then ghost me a week after fucking like it was nothing. Naturally the more mature approach here would to just say "sorry not interested" for whatever reason, but it genuinely seems like most young women (I'm 26) either think like what you've mentioned, or just don't give two shits when they can open up Hinge or Bumble and find another cock within seconds.
Hah, this reminds me of on time with my most recent ex gf. I don't remember what the hell we were talking about, but I remember her response to whatever I said was "well.. men don't have feelings.." I had to laugh at this because it's such a ridiculous thing to say, but the scary part is she wasn't really joking. She kinda knew it was ridiculous, but at the same time, that's as far as she had ever thought things through-- she's been living her entire life operating under that notion. That shit is both ridiculous and scary lol
>It sucks feeling like I need to keep everything around a woman, or else she'll leave me for some stone-cold psycho
Nahhh, don't worry, she won't LEAVE you, she just won't care at all
And she won't leave for some psycho, she'll just leave, then stumble upon the next guy in her journey. Probably some other nice guy like you, actually
>The times I've opened up to a woman I've been dating have ended in disaster.
It feels like I need to be some kind of fucking robot.
Because they don't care and they don't want to care. Too much effort for them, rather just find a new guy that doesn't require them putting in any effort at all
Note that they were prolly going to leave pretty soon out of boredom anyway, so it hardly matters what you did or said
What you ought to do is just "open up" to them ASAP, then you weed out a chunk of the demons early on rather than wasting a bunch of time only to find out they're a demon much much later
>Yeah I did this the other month.
Forgot to mention; I opened up in the sense that I said that I liked her quite a bit and wanted to keep seeing her, and that having sex so soon made me feel a bit vulnerable because I did like her. I suppose her fucking off was the trash just taking itself out, because I met someone much nicer after she left.
>It really is unbelievable how a woman can unironically think like this
Really it's that they don't think or care at all
>after asking me what I wanted and saying "I don't want to do any stupid casual stuff", and then ghost me a week after fucking like it was nothing
Well if you flipped the roles there, how often would a guy do the same thing she did to you? Hell, we invented that shit nigga. To the point where, if we see a girl on a dating app say that she's not looking for casual/hook-ups, our brains automatically translate that to "I'M LOOKING FOR HOOKUPS!"
Or is that just me? lol
Really though, no one is gonna be surprised if you tell a story about a guy who lied to get some pussy, so why is it a surprise when it's a girl who is doing the lying? That question actually has an answer though: because there's no reason to lie to a guy, 99% of the time he'd be down to fuck even if he is more interested in something serious than something casual. This part confuses the fucking shit out of me, because it's like women lie just.. for the fun of it? Or I guess it's just out of pure laziness, but you'd think the lazier option would be being honest
>Really it's that they don't think or care at all
This really is it, and I think I forgot this because it's been so long since I've dated outside of just having casual sex with girls. They really give zero shits about anyone's feelings but themselves
>
Well if you flipped the roles there, how often would a guy do the same thing she did to you? Hell, we invented that shit nigga.
Very true, however I feel that there's still the commonly held misconception that women "catch feels" after sleeping with a guy, which is completely untrue in my experiences.
> Or is that just me? lol
not at all just you, however I do tend to give people the benefit of the doubt in what they tell me, especially when it comes to interpersonal relationships. You need to have a flexible mindset because you can occasionally miss a gem by misinterpreting this. I unfortunately made the mistake of taking this chick's word at face value, and completely misread her and the situation.
> That question actually has an answer though: because there's no reason to lie to a guy, 99% of the time he'd be down to fuck even if he is more interested in something serious than something casual. > Or I guess it's just out of pure laziness, but you'd think the lazier option would be being honest
This is the most confusing part to me; the lack of ability to just be honest. it isn't that hard, and just saves everybody from having a headache, and provides an ability to just move on to other people. Most men won't judge, or will be fine to just hang out, go on dates, and be intimate without "labelling it", but it seems most women don't have this ability, which I find odd. In my situation, I was more than happy to just see her a bit and see how we went, but evidently she had other intentions, especially since the cope she gave me was "needing to be 100% sure before she's serious with someone" after one hook up, and 3 weeks of talking.
> picrel .
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Very true, however I feel that there's still the commonly held misconception that women "catch feels" after sleeping with a guy, which is completely untrue in my experiences.
Some do, some don't. Prolly the same %s as men who catch feels after sex
>This is the most confusing part to me; the lack of ability to just be honest. it isn't that hard, and just saves everybody from having a headache, and provides an ability to just move on to other people
Yeah see, this is where you go from just normal levels of crazy/assholeness, up to full blown narcissism. They're control freaks; they have to have control of everything from start to finish. They'll never ever tell the truth unless they decide that's what they wanna do, but if they see that as giving up some form of control, that shit ain't ever gonna happen. These are the kind of people who will deny shit even if you show them hard proof of them doing something lol
>"needing to be 100% sure before she's serious with someone"
What's that mean? Like she cut you off so she could go make up her mind or..?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Some do, some don't. Prolly the same %s as men who catch feels after sex
Yeah I guess it's hit and miss, though in my experience it's usually moreso the woman than myself that catches some kind of feelings after the first time having sex.
> Yeah see, this is where you go from just normal levels of crazy/assholeness, up to full blown narcissism. They're control freaks; they have to have control of everything from start to finish
It's sad that some people genuinely see it in this way, in that just being honest is some kind of power dynamic or losing control. I suppose some people are just built different and you have to weed these nutters out bdfore they sink their hooks into you.
> What's that mean? Like she cut you off so she could go make up her mind or..?
Still have no idea, she was also terrified to use the word "relationship" and had said she wasn't sure if she was wasting my time, 5 days after had sex (literally instigated by her). I tried giving her a call to try and sort it all out or just end things nicely, but she dodged it and sent me this three weeks later, before ghosting again.
She was only very recently out of a nine year long relationship (nine months iirc), so thisbis what I mean by giving the "benefit of the doubt", but still, just having been honest would have made life a lot easier and saved having to send picrel.
I suppose you're right in that it's just narcissism driving a lot of this.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>ahahaha
CRIMSON flags
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>women "catch feels" after sleeping with a guy
they do, but only if they view sex as something important
many girls are broken by having had too many sexual partners
they view it as nothing more than kissing
but, overall as a whole women tend to use sex to keep the man invested in them rather than something just to do for fun without much care
>. Go fuck the nervous guy who you think isn't into you. He will stick around.
For the sex, sure. That doesn't say anything about how long he'll stay or whether he genuinely cares.
Whoring yourself out to a nervous/shy dude who is incapable of the first four panels doesn't mean the last one won't still happen when you enable it.
This. Women need to start courting men instead of the other way around because quiet men are better husbands than Chad Thundercock but socially too retarded
They should also set the rules and not give themselves out or else he will fly
she's not into nervous guys, no woman is.
That's an issue; a lot of people into super shy and nervous people are just BDSM freaks who want to torture them
its cause you keep asking the guy in the relationship if he'll do this to you. When you keep doing that after he says he wont he'll snap and do it to you because your dumbass doesnt want to listen and let go of whatever bullshit has happened in the past
>Why do guys keep doing this to me? 🙁
Evaluate whether you provide a benefit to a man's life. If you're more of an annoyance or an obstacle or a burden then yeah he's gonna dump you.
If you're actually a net benefit to his life, then he should be interested in keeping you around. I suppose assholes do exist, but just watch out for the warning signs and don't be attracted to assholes.
For me providing benefits isn't as important as interesting taste, high IQ, good looks. Honestly a woman needs to strike me with a feeling of genuine admiration or I'll resent the time I waste on her even if the sex is good
Because women are sexualllity selective. Is the woman who gives green light in any relation, so if you keep dating with trash that's because literally you choose them
You're either ugly, aiming too high or a shit girlfriend.
why are you a whore?
You are probably not worth the trouble of getting in a relationship with, but guys only realize that after a while dating, at which point they thing they have gone too far too give up to come back empty handed, so they fuck you as that's all the trouble you are worth
Tl;dr the guy cuts his losses after he realizes you aren't worth it
OP it's either this, or you made him wait too long for sex that wasn't that good.
>OP it's either this, or you made him wait too long for sex that wasn't that good.
They are one in the same thing, of course
But yeah, what guy is going to walk away after having glorious, beautiful, filthy sex with a girl who they actually like and is easy to get along with? Has to be <10% of guys, and all of those guys are fucked in the head, so good riddance if they walk away early on instead of wasting a bunch of your time
Therefore, if you know you're easy to get along with, and a good fuck, and a guy still does this to you? Then you know he's nothing but a gigantic homosexual and you should celebrate, not cry
Yeah, except that she's probably not that great. Or this wouldn't happen to her repeatedly.
A big part of the problem is that women cannot differentiate their appeal as a sexual partner from their appeal as a relationship partner. Go into the ATOGA thread and see for yourself.
>Yeah, except that she's probably not that great. Or this wouldn't happen to her repeatedly.
Well look, she doesn't have to be that great. She doesn't even have to be GOOD, hell she barely has to be mediocre. As long as she's easy to get along with and just.. a decent person? And she likes to take the cock, of course. No sane guy is going to walk away from that girl, why would they?
>A big part of the problem is that women cannot differentiate their appeal as a sexual partner from their appeal as a relationship partner
I guess I'm not sure if I can differentiate that either? I don't think you can be a good relationship partner if you're not a good sexual partner. I guess maybe you can be a good sexual partner without being a good relationship partner, MAYBE
I think what a lot of women might not realize is that they're just straight up not good people lol. Not good anything partners, not good at anything either. They're a net fucking drain on everyone around them, their positives, if they have any, don't come close to making up for their negatives
I mean think about it, if a guy is using you for sex.. HE DOESN'T GHOST YOU! He keeps using you for sex! If a guy who had the intention of using you for sex fucking ghosts you, god damn what the hell were you doing? How annoying do you have to be to run off a person who was just there for the sex anyway?
Hello, brain damage-kun.
Still encouraging people to be impulsive and self-destructive?
>Still encouraging people to be impulsive and self-destructive?
I'd say it's the opposite but yeah, we meet again
>I guess I'm not sure if I can differentiate that either?
That much is obvious. But to be fair, that's pretty common among women, particularly young women.
>I don't think you can be a good relationship partner if you're not a good sexual partner.
Yes
>I guess maybe you can be a good sexual partner without being a good relationship partner, MAYBE
You definitely can. At least from a male perspective. You don't even have to get along a little bit. A lot of men will fuck a woman that they hate if they think she'll satsify them. Men do not conflate sex with emotions and relationships in the same way that women do. At least not early on.
>I think what a lot of women might not realize is that they're just straight up not good people lol
That part is definitely true. But they've been trained to think that being a selfish little girl isn't just their right, it's their duty. And since society doesn't openly punish them for it, they have no reason to stop.
>if a guy is using you for sex.. HE DOESN'T GHOST YOU! He keeps using you for sex! If a guy who had the intention of using you for sex fucking ghosts you, god damn what the hell were you doing? How annoying do you have to be to run off a person who was just there for the sex anyway?
Actually that comes back to what I was talking about earlier. A man might not care early on if a woman is shit, as long as he can fuck her. But he's still only going to put up with her shitty personality for so long before he gets over her and moves on. And it's usually sooner rather than later.
>But to be fair, that's pretty common among women
I'm a guy, btw
>A lot of men will fuck a woman that they hate if they think she'll satsify them
Yeahhhh that sounds good in theory, but you go try fucking a girl you really hate, especially a girl that's hurt you. Let me know if it was satisfying or worth it in the end lol
Girls will do the same shit, btw
>Men do not conflate sex with emotions and relationships in the same way that women do. At least not early on.
Pft, yeah right. Guys are just as bad if not worse about that shit. Granted, you might be right that it comes at a later point in the relationship
>That part is definitely true. But they've been trained to think that being a selfish little girl isn't just their right, it's their duty. And since society doesn't openly punish them for it, they have no reason to stop.
Hmm except society can do whatever the fuck it wants to me and I'm still going to do whatever I damn well please. What stops me from acting like these selfish cunts is.. something that's like, ingrained into me. I'm pretty much compelled to be a decent person. It hurts me if I hurt someone else, and I feel bad if I could help someone and choose not to, and I'm allergic to lying like I'm fucking George Washington
I don't care about society or its punishments. Society can all gather up and collectively suck my ding dong dick. Society plays damn near 0 part in how I choose to behave. I'm not sure society's punishments are the cure to these selfish, narcissistic demon women. Well, unless that punishment is burning them at the stake, which would work just fine
I've seen it all for myself. Maybe a 23 year old kid will shed some new light on it for me, but I have yet to see it.
I assume you mean that you seek a relationship while guys just want to fuck you. If thats the case, then you are either chasing after bad guys or presenting yourself as a girl to fuck but not have a relationship with. Maybe both.
Think of it this way, without bringing up sex, what do you bring to a man in terms of a relationship? Why should someone date you?
>Think of it this way, without bringing up sex, what do you bring to a man in terms of a relationship? Why should someone date you?
this
tho for most women the answer is "nothing" unfortunately
>guys
choosing the wrong guys
try maybe getting to know about their intentions deeply before smashing
>you guys
Obviously not doing a good job of judging a man's intentions sorry to hear that you got pad'ed though
woman has sex. Damn! They keep tricking me! This is all your fault!
Dumb bitch I would pump and dump you too close your legs whore
Just think about it critically. Why would a guy have sex with a girl but not be in a long term relationship with her?
Because she's attractive enough to him to fuck but not to commit to.
In other words, you are pursuing men that are out of your league. Lower your standards by about 2 points on a 1-10 scale.
guys cant honestly like you unless they've had sex with you first. that's just how it is. the smart guys know this and we don't care how many dudes you've fucked as long as you're cool. the incels will cry and complain that you're not some innocent princess but who fucking cares.
stoo making up retatded bullshit. Smart men only date and marry virgins. If you do anything else you're a homosexual
you're retarded and you've never had sex in your life
Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with. If they don't respect themselves enough to save themselves why should I give even the slightest shit?
>Smart men only date and marry virgins. If you do anything else you're a homosexual
>Had plenty of sex bro, just with sluts I wouldn't dream of marrying or having kids with
ok homosexual
Because they've been allowed to. If you have sex without commitment, it enables men to use you. Not all men will do that, but any man who is so inclined has free reign, and all he has to do is the song and dance in the first few panels of that comic. He just has to make you feel comfortable to get sex, but he doesn't actually have to stick his neck out for anything.
This is the exact opposite of what any sane woman interested in commitment should be doing.
By not living together, sharing finances, or having sex outside of marriage--and this goes for both men and women--you deliberately exclude any factor but personal compatibility in a relationship. Why would a man stay with a woman without any of that for 2 or 3 years before marriage, and then decide to spend the rest of his life with her, if he didn't genuinely like her as a person? Conversely, it's common to the point of cliche for a man to have no long-term intentions with a woman, but to be content with convenient sex or ease of living for as long as she allows.
It factually works. Even controlling for religion, those who wait until marriage both divorce less and have happier marriages.
The immorality of others isn't license to be immoral oneself.
>Why would a man stay with a woman without any of that for 2 or 3 years before marriage, and then decide to spend the rest of his life with her, if he didn't genuinely like her as a person
You guys are starting the make the women seem rational, if only because they've actually experienced this and found out the hard way that, yes a man will stay with a woman for 2 or 3 years even if he doesn't intend to commit. If a man finds reliable pussy, he will NOT let that go unless you actually continues to improve his game and can reliably get dates. The OP comic is correct in the sense that men lie about their intentions all the time, and especially lie to themselves about what they want. It isn't discipline or will or any idealistic bullshit that keeps people together, at the end of the day there is nothing that forces people to stay together in our modern world. The only thing that works is the fear that each partner won't be able to find another partner as compatible as the current one (bird in the hand, etc.), or if they're experienced enough (fucked enough people) to know what makes a person reliable or not. Statistics are always meaningless when you actually find yourself in the situation it's trying to describe. That's the problem with men these days, no life experience.
>nobody has principles
Opinion discarded
Principles cost nothing to have. Try living by them sometime.
>guys cant honestly like having sex with you unless they've had sex with you first.
ftfy.
>If you have sex without commitment, it enables men to use you. Not all men will do that, but any man who is so inclined has free reign
pretty much. And nearly every guy you're going to meet is going to be like
to use it to the fullest or convince you its the new status quo.
>The only thing that works is the fear that each partner won't be able to find another partner as compatible as the current one (bird in the hand, etc.), or if they're experienced enough (fucked enough people) to know what makes a person reliable or not. Statistics are always meaningless when you actually find yourself in the situation it's trying to describe. That's the problem with men these days, no life experience.
fear works, but is simply not reliable. All it takes is a little bit of braveness from anywhere to break that kind of bond. Compatibility is far more reliable. Whether the compatibility results in wild times, or in stable times doesn't matter, but having similar goals and outlooks on how to make your way in the world makes traveling the metaphoric road of life more productive.
>>guys cant honestly like having sex with you unless they've had sex with you first.
>ftfy.
another virgin. sex is always good, even when it's bad.
>pretty much. And nearly every guy you're going to meet is going to be like
to use it to the fullest or
guys cant honestly like you unless they've had sex with you first. that's just how it is. the smart guys know this and we don't care how many dudes you've fucked as long as you're cool. the incels will cry and complain that you're not some innocent princess but who fucking cares. (You) convince you its the new status quo.
every man will agree because it's the truth. you don't think i wish the world worked in a different way? but regardless of what i will believe, life will continue to go on defying my wishes.
>fear works, but is simply not reliable. All it takes is a little bit of braveness from anywhere to break that kind of bond. Compatibility is far more reliable. Whether the compatibility results in wild times, or in stable times doesn't matter, but having similar goals and outlooks on how to make your way in the world makes traveling the metaphoric road of life more productive.
you didnt really say anything of value here. you're more likely to get along with people who think like you? well no shit, but that doesn't mean those people will want to stay together. fear keeps people in line, and experiences allows you to figure out what you want in a person and who's compatible with you.
>Whether the compatibility results in wild times, or in stable times doesn't matter
of course it matters! are you kidding me? i would rather be in a stable relationship with someone who's a little different than have an awful chaotic relationship with someone who likes the same movies as me or something irrelevant. just because we share life goals that doesn't make us friends, it may even make us competitors, and we'll fight over the specifics of the goal.
>you didnt really say anything of value here.
the statement was the only thing that works is fear. that is false. feel free to defend such a position.
>you don't think i wish the world worked in a different way?
clearly not enough to act the way you think it should. But thats okay. Everyone falls short of their ideals. Some of us just excuse it in different ways from others.
>the statement was the only thing that works is fear. that is false. feel free to defend such a position.
you're a homosexual. all you did was refute my point and failed to offer an alternative, which is what every virgin does, male or female. i explained very thoroughly why your "compatibility" angle is 100% pure made up fantasy, and you're deflecting instead of addressing the points i made.
>But thats okay. Everyone falls short of their ideals.
having fun virtue signaling on LULZ?
>guys cant honestly like you unless they've had sex with you first
But the reason I want to fuck a girl is because I like her, either for looks or personality.
>as a young man bang a lot of sluts
>later marry a virgin girl younger than 23
it's that simple.
why are his balls a different color than his body
did he leave because you're still fucking someone else?
Duuno. I went for the relationship every time and each time the girl ghosted me. I'm attractive, pleasant, a decent circle of friends and (at one point) was making 160k for working half the year. None of it mattered. Just luck of the draw.
>and (at one point) was making 160k for working half the year.
What were you doing? Damn I'd love that.
>I went for the relationship every time and each time the girl ghosted me
Been my experience too, even after sex.
They're men.
u a ho
Love is dead, its all casual sex now. Don't you feel empowered.
>Why do guys keep doing this to me? 🙁
Because your idea of me breaking your heart is something like:
>I got called into work so I can't do whatever we had planned for today
or
>I didn't answer your texts in the required timeframe (5 seconds probably)
>Why do guys keep doing this to me?
You are not a woman. But a real woman knows that happens to her because she only dates Chad. However she likes it so she doesn't mind.
This is why we didn't have sex before marriage fren
this. unfortunately now it's too late for OP and she's forever the damaged slut with baggage guys fuck around with casually.
because you're really really bad at picking partners. don't feel bad about it. everyone is bad at picking partners for themselves. it's why we used to have family members arrange things for us instead.
Men are motivated by sex first and foremost
So if they have sex and are not willing to be in a relationship with you to continue having sex with you this means two things
>they feel they can do better than you
>they have other girls who are less trouble than you
So your problem stems from only having sex with guys who are too good for you.
They can easily get better women than you
And you are way too much trouble to keep around
So you wither have to go for less value men
or increase your value
Become prettier
more interesting
funnier
smarter
more fashionable
more easy to talk to
Once you can do that you can keep a man
>Once you can do that you can keep a man
it's way too late (she's too promiscuous and broken) for her to improve to get/keep a better man at this point. she'll have to lower her standards.
Yeah, I mean, that seems to be dating culture now. You have loose women and loose men out there who just fuck each other, and yet male sexual inactivity is on the rise on average, so therefore the men that are sexually active are competing against a smaller group of competitors, in a large field of women which makes them far less likely to settle down. Pair that with divorce risk and what you get is a culture where long term commitment is essentially discouraged.
So that's the game you're playing. Now you have to be better at vetting men and what they're after
>Pair that with divorce risk and what you get is a culture where long term commitment is essentially discouraged.
Divorce risk doesn't discourage commitment, it discourages marriage
Also not sure how less men being sexually active somehow discourages commitment
>Also not sure how less men being sexually active somehow discourages commitment
because men who are sexually active have access to more women
less competition for them
so them picking one woman and settling down is not as attractive an option as having multiple women
The problem now a days with really high value men is that they dont want to commit because they can get women easily with dating apps social media
the problem with women is that the only guys they date now a days are those guys
so they have a hard time finding someone to commit to them
the normal guys who would commit to a girl are not sexually active, nor are they the men woman are attracted to subcounsciously
in their mind they want a nice guy who will commit to them, but emotionally and biologically they do not feel attraction to that guy so they are left with the guy who will dump them the moment they feel they can get someone better
>in their mind they want a nice guy who will commit to them, but emotionally and biologically they do not feel attraction to that guy so they are left with the guy who will dump them the moment they feel they can get someone better
Okay but that's just them being retarded
If they got the supposedly "high value" guy to commit to them, they'd still leave thinking they can find someone better lol
>Okay but that's just them being retarded
retarded in a logical sense
but choosing a partner to women is never logical
it's basically just a biological response to desirable traits
so they have to fight their biology to get with a guy they dont find attractive
so yea they are left only feeling attraction to that high value guy that will never commit to them like you surmised
>it's basically just a biological response to desirable traits
No it's not. The truth is these women just aren't ready to settle down yet. They don't want to commit to a man, but they must not want to say that out loud, so they blame the men all the time instead of just admitting they aren't ready to settle down..
>so they have to fight their biology to get with a guy they dont find attractive
Like I said, it doesn't matter who they get with. You act like if they could only find a "high value" man who would commit to them, they would be content and they'd both live happily ever after.. bullshit. The bitch wants to keep playing the field, she's gonna keep playing the field, it doesn't matter who that guy is or how "valuable" he is
>playing the field, she's gonna keep playing the field, it doesn't matter who that guy is or how "valuable" he is
what you're saying is true
women will only stay with a guy if they feel that's the best they can get
but, many relationships last a long time actually and still do
and why is that?
it's because girls get with a guy that at the moment they feel is the best guy they can get
and the more time spent together if the guy is an actually high value man time will bond them together more and more until it becomes infeasible for that woman to get with a better guy or get with a guy who can provide more.
because as time goes on the women's value keeps dropping
so unless she's in her teenage years the longer a relationship goes if the man keeps his shit together the less likely a woman can find a better guy
but yea, you're right, the guy has to be the best option at the moment for the girl to like him
and the less time they're together the more likely the women will be distracted by the new shiny thing
You want the real answer:
Because you are solipsistic, self-absorbed, and think the world revolves around you.
Ok, there ARE guys who are straight up manipulative liars, but that comic is textbook BPD whore shit. Guy takes too long to answer your text because he was stuck on the toilet or something then damaged goods BPD whore chick is like "Waaa! How can you do this to ME? You didn't answer my text quickly because my boobs are big enough for you!"
Neurotic girl takes everything as a sign of criticism or abandonment, acts like Taylor Swift in the "Blank Space" lyrics, and then eventually he has had enough and exits the stage. Then neurotic whore is like "waah, he just used me for sex!"
Guys are human beings, they have thoughts and feelings, normal insecurities and foibles, but then they have to hide them or else they'll pounded into the floor by bullies and harangued by women.
Like those situations where the guy doesn't keep up with housework because he's depressed, low-T, hates his job, saddled with daddy issues. Then chick is like "Waaah! You didn't do the housework because you don't love me!"
>Guys are human beings, they have thoughts and feelings, normal insecurities and foibles, but then they have to hide them or else they'll pounded into the floor by bullies and harangued by women.
This one hits really hard. It sucks feeling like I need to keep everything around a woman, or else she'll leave me for some stone-cold psycho. The times I've opened up to a woman I've been dating have ended in disaster.
It feels like I need to be some kind of fucking robot.
Hah, this reminds me of on time with my most recent ex gf. I don't remember what the hell we were talking about, but I remember her response to whatever I said was "well.. men don't have feelings.." I had to laugh at this because it's such a ridiculous thing to say, but the scary part is she wasn't really joking. She kinda knew it was ridiculous, but at the same time, that's as far as she had ever thought things through-- she's been living her entire life operating under that notion. That shit is both ridiculous and scary lol
>It sucks feeling like I need to keep everything around a woman, or else she'll leave me for some stone-cold psycho
Nahhh, don't worry, she won't LEAVE you, she just won't care at all
And she won't leave for some psycho, she'll just leave, then stumble upon the next guy in her journey. Probably some other nice guy like you, actually
>The times I've opened up to a woman I've been dating have ended in disaster.
It feels like I need to be some kind of fucking robot.
Because they don't care and they don't want to care. Too much effort for them, rather just find a new guy that doesn't require them putting in any effort at all
Note that they were prolly going to leave pretty soon out of boredom anyway, so it hardly matters what you did or said
What you ought to do is just "open up" to them ASAP, then you weed out a chunk of the demons early on rather than wasting a bunch of time only to find out they're a demon much much later
> Hah, this reminds me of on time with my most recent ex gf. I don't remember what the hell we were talking about, but I remember her response to whatever I said was "well.. men don't have feelings.."
It really is unbelievable how a woman can unironically think like this. I wonder how many women out there actually share this sentiment. It kind of makes sense how women are usually the one to ghost, because in their minds, it's exactly
> Too much effort for them, rather just find a new guy that doesn't require them putting in any effort at all
This is the grim reality of it, and it sucks big time.
> What you ought to do is just "open up" to them ASAP, then you weed out a chunk of the demons early on rather than wasting a bunch of time only to find out they're a demon much much later
Yeah I did this the other month. I've mentioned this story in a few threads so you might've seen it, but I had a girl I was seeing for a few weeks come on to me hard, invite me up to her place date two (mind you, after asking me what I wanted and saying "I don't want to do any stupid casual stuff", and then ghost me a week after fucking like it was nothing. Naturally the more mature approach here would to just say "sorry not interested" for whatever reason, but it genuinely seems like most young women (I'm 26) either think like what you've mentioned, or just don't give two shits when they can open up Hinge or Bumble and find another cock within seconds.
>Yeah I did this the other month.
Forgot to mention; I opened up in the sense that I said that I liked her quite a bit and wanted to keep seeing her, and that having sex so soon made me feel a bit vulnerable because I did like her. I suppose her fucking off was the trash just taking itself out, because I met someone much nicer after she left.
>It really is unbelievable how a woman can unironically think like this
Really it's that they don't think or care at all
>after asking me what I wanted and saying "I don't want to do any stupid casual stuff", and then ghost me a week after fucking like it was nothing
Well if you flipped the roles there, how often would a guy do the same thing she did to you? Hell, we invented that shit nigga. To the point where, if we see a girl on a dating app say that she's not looking for casual/hook-ups, our brains automatically translate that to "I'M LOOKING FOR HOOKUPS!"
Or is that just me? lol
Really though, no one is gonna be surprised if you tell a story about a guy who lied to get some pussy, so why is it a surprise when it's a girl who is doing the lying? That question actually has an answer though: because there's no reason to lie to a guy, 99% of the time he'd be down to fuck even if he is more interested in something serious than something casual. This part confuses the fucking shit out of me, because it's like women lie just.. for the fun of it? Or I guess it's just out of pure laziness, but you'd think the lazier option would be being honest
>Really it's that they don't think or care at all
This really is it, and I think I forgot this because it's been so long since I've dated outside of just having casual sex with girls. They really give zero shits about anyone's feelings but themselves
>
Well if you flipped the roles there, how often would a guy do the same thing she did to you? Hell, we invented that shit nigga.
Very true, however I feel that there's still the commonly held misconception that women "catch feels" after sleeping with a guy, which is completely untrue in my experiences.
> Or is that just me? lol
not at all just you, however I do tend to give people the benefit of the doubt in what they tell me, especially when it comes to interpersonal relationships. You need to have a flexible mindset because you can occasionally miss a gem by misinterpreting this. I unfortunately made the mistake of taking this chick's word at face value, and completely misread her and the situation.
> That question actually has an answer though: because there's no reason to lie to a guy, 99% of the time he'd be down to fuck even if he is more interested in something serious than something casual.
> Or I guess it's just out of pure laziness, but you'd think the lazier option would be being honest
This is the most confusing part to me; the lack of ability to just be honest. it isn't that hard, and just saves everybody from having a headache, and provides an ability to just move on to other people. Most men won't judge, or will be fine to just hang out, go on dates, and be intimate without "labelling it", but it seems most women don't have this ability, which I find odd. In my situation, I was more than happy to just see her a bit and see how we went, but evidently she had other intentions, especially since the cope she gave me was "needing to be 100% sure before she's serious with someone" after one hook up, and 3 weeks of talking.
> picrel .
>Very true, however I feel that there's still the commonly held misconception that women "catch feels" after sleeping with a guy, which is completely untrue in my experiences.
Some do, some don't. Prolly the same %s as men who catch feels after sex
>This is the most confusing part to me; the lack of ability to just be honest. it isn't that hard, and just saves everybody from having a headache, and provides an ability to just move on to other people
Yeah see, this is where you go from just normal levels of crazy/assholeness, up to full blown narcissism. They're control freaks; they have to have control of everything from start to finish. They'll never ever tell the truth unless they decide that's what they wanna do, but if they see that as giving up some form of control, that shit ain't ever gonna happen. These are the kind of people who will deny shit even if you show them hard proof of them doing something lol
>"needing to be 100% sure before she's serious with someone"
What's that mean? Like she cut you off so she could go make up her mind or..?
>Some do, some don't. Prolly the same %s as men who catch feels after sex
Yeah I guess it's hit and miss, though in my experience it's usually moreso the woman than myself that catches some kind of feelings after the first time having sex.
> Yeah see, this is where you go from just normal levels of crazy/assholeness, up to full blown narcissism. They're control freaks; they have to have control of everything from start to finish
It's sad that some people genuinely see it in this way, in that just being honest is some kind of power dynamic or losing control. I suppose some people are just built different and you have to weed these nutters out bdfore they sink their hooks into you.
> What's that mean? Like she cut you off so she could go make up her mind or..?
Still have no idea, she was also terrified to use the word "relationship" and had said she wasn't sure if she was wasting my time, 5 days after had sex (literally instigated by her). I tried giving her a call to try and sort it all out or just end things nicely, but she dodged it and sent me this three weeks later, before ghosting again.
She was only very recently out of a nine year long relationship (nine months iirc), so thisbis what I mean by giving the "benefit of the doubt", but still, just having been honest would have made life a lot easier and saved having to send picrel.
I suppose you're right in that it's just narcissism driving a lot of this.
>ahahaha
CRIMSON flags
>women "catch feels" after sleeping with a guy
they do, but only if they view sex as something important
many girls are broken by having had too many sexual partners
they view it as nothing more than kissing
but, overall as a whole women tend to use sex to keep the man invested in them rather than something just to do for fun without much care
Not a robot or a psycho, just someone who smiles in the face of adversity and leans into it. Whining never solved anything
Yeah anyone like that doesn't need to keep some woman around for validation lol
Sexually aggressive men are like this. Go fuck the nervous guy who you think isn't into you. He will stick around.
>. Go fuck the nervous guy who you think isn't into you. He will stick around.
For the sex, sure. That doesn't say anything about how long he'll stay or whether he genuinely cares.
Whoring yourself out to a nervous/shy dude who is incapable of the first four panels doesn't mean the last one won't still happen when you enable it.
she's not into nervous guys, no woman is.
This. Women need to start courting men instead of the other way around because quiet men are better husbands than Chad Thundercock but socially too retarded
They should also set the rules and not give themselves out or else he will fly
That's an issue; a lot of people into super shy and nervous people are just BDSM freaks who want to torture them
>That's an issue; a lot of people into super shy and nervous people are just BDSM freaks who want to torture them
hmm fair point. I love torturing shy girls so much
Now that's what I call cardio.
Let me guess, when a guy who's "nice" meets you and wants to take things further than just fucking, you "panic" and ghost them, right?
Because you have bad taste in men and can't easily tell if they're like this or not.
its cause you keep asking the guy in the relationship if he'll do this to you. When you keep doing that after he says he wont he'll snap and do it to you because your dumbass doesnt want to listen and let go of whatever bullshit has happened in the past
Stop dating fuckboys. Be a good girlfriend. Maybe you complain to much. Be a partner, not a receiver of love.
Because it's fun lmao and girls aint shit they want the world handed to them on a silver platter. What sane man wants to put up with that??
That was originally a knife wasn't it? You started this thread as a shitpost and the board ran wild with it, funny.
>Why do guys keep doing this to me? 🙁
Evaluate whether you provide a benefit to a man's life. If you're more of an annoyance or an obstacle or a burden then yeah he's gonna dump you.
If you're actually a net benefit to his life, then he should be interested in keeping you around. I suppose assholes do exist, but just watch out for the warning signs and don't be attracted to assholes.
For me providing benefits isn't as important as interesting taste, high IQ, good looks. Honestly a woman needs to strike me with a feeling of genuine admiration or I'll resent the time I waste on her even if the sex is good
Because women are sexualllity selective. Is the woman who gives green light in any relation, so if you keep dating with trash that's because literally you choose them
Because you keep fucking Chad and you're too stupid to realise you're one of his side pieces.
Imagine having sex
couldntbeme
>lefting
Unironically thats how girls behave