Why do atheists like to debate with religious people when the obvious fact is that the question about the existence of God is not a matter of debate but a matter of subjective belief? You could never prove it one way or another.
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Why do atheists like to debate with religious people when the obvious fact is that the question about the existence of God is not a matter of debate b...
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to promote their latest book “yes, it’s okay to shove things up your ass!”
In order to save the souls of this thread, Lord, please make my post end in trips.
Looks like God abandoned you today
People like this are why atheism is such a joke nowadays. You cannot logically rationalize someone's religion. The religion is always based on a degree of faith which is NOT rational. Why the fuck would I want to convert someone to atheism if being a Christian, Muslim, or garden gnome was having a positive impact on their life? Not everything needs to be rationalized.
Try to live in a non-secular country and see how long it takes before you wish you can debate the dumbasses without being stoned
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> positive impact on their lives
Okay let's see
> christian
> being a cuckold with pedophile tendencies
> Muslim
> riding trucks on walk ways and blowing up
> garden gnome
> mutilating the penises of young boys
Many theists believe otherwise, that their religion is objectively correct and can be proven so
How? What I always ask theists is what would have happened if you were raised in a different religion? Or what if you were raised to not have a religion? You would either be of a different religion or an atheist. See most people are atheists about other people's religions and 99 percent of all gods ever imagined. But atheists today simply go one God further. The fact that billions of people believe in a religion proves people are dumb sheep that need to beleive in stupid shit. Makes me lose faith in humanity to be honest.
All religions are flawed, human interpretations of the abstract God.
Buddhism has nothing to do with God. Or is it thus not a religion?
Then the atheists are at least as stupid as those theists.
>my religion is undeniably true
>proof?
>Well you see, there's no way to PROVE it...
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CHRIST IS KING. JESUS HAS ARISEN. GLORY TO THE LORD. AMEN
Proof?
The Holy Bible
Yeah, and Japanese Emperors are literally descended from the sun goddess because Nihon Shoki said so
The Holy Bible was Authored by God Himself, whereas the sun goddess is just some hocus pocus invented by bored people cooped up on a tiny island, if not a Deception of the Devil.
Where is your proof that the Bible was authored by your chosen deity?
Please, show me. This undeniable truth will completely change my mind and turn me to your faith.
The Holy Bible confirms that it was Divinely Inspired by God.
All Scripture is breathed out by God and Profitable for Teaching, for Reproof, for Correction, and for Training in Righteousness (Timothy 3:16)
The Quran confirms that Mohammed was divinely inspired. Why don’t you believe that?
All text that contradicts The Holy Bible is actually a Trickery of the Devil made to Pull us Fallen Humans away from Christ.
The Bible is contradictory to itself, though.
It can't maintain consistent rules and telling of events.
Is the Bible demon trickery too, or is it exempt for unexplainable, vague reasons?
The Holy Bible is not contradictory, you are simply too stupid to Behold the Wisdom and Truths of His Word, and this is why you'll go to Hell for your Hubris
Your book says it was written by the god the book is about?
That's your proof? Circular logic???
How very disappointing.
Logic is Subject to God, the Creator of All Things.
Can you prove that your chosen God created all things without resorting to circular reasoning?
Everything that begins to exist has a cause.
The universe began to exist.
Therefore, the universe has a cause
If the universe has a cause, then an uncaused, personal Creator of the universe exists who sans (without) the universe is beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful.
Therefore, an uncaused, personal Creator of the universe exists, who sans the universe is beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless and enormously powerful
So the universe came from nothing?
Made by a creator who always existed.
With no creator himself.
Astounding. How can you prove this?
It is Self-Evident.
So you're saying there's nothing to prove anything you've said?
It proves itself, dumb atheist shithead.
That's a yes, then.
What a shame, you talked as if you had evidence for your god. And I was so ready to accept it, too.
You already know God exists and Christ is his Son, you are just too Prideful to Accept Jesus into your Heart
Anon, you've convinced me of their existence and feats as much as you could have done by showing me Charlie and the Chocolate Factory as proof that Willie Wonka exists.
The Existence of God and His Son Christ Threatens your hedonistic lifestyle, which is why you Argue so Ardently for His Absence. Accept Him. You'll Be Happier with Him.
>ask proof for claim
>get called a prideful hedonist
I just wanted proofs
The Holy Bible
you can't read greek, aramaic or hebrew.
God's Truth is accessible in every language.
I'm afraid I'll need more proof than a book that declares itself as real.
> something can’t come from nothing, everything needs to be created
> my god wasn’t created
Think of it this way, rationality says that everything must have a cause, religion says that God does not need a cause. Since the universe exist there are three explanations
>the universe has no cause
Untenable from a rational perspective.
>the universe has a non-divine cause that itself has no cause
Untenable from a rational perspective.
>the universe has a divine cause
An explanation as perfect as God himself.
> rationality says that everything must have a cause, religion says that God does not need a cause
Except religion doesn't give any evidence, it just claims things. If you accept that God can come from nothing, why not the universe? The former is just adding another layer of improbability. Even your own logic doesn't add up.
If the universe came into existence from nothing, then the universe is God.
Is shit your god then? Like watery, smelly diarrhoea
Everything is a part of God.
Including evil?
Satan?
Sin?
Everything means everything
So true!
Yeah. I came to the conclusion conclusion that religion was bs bakc in the 8th grade. It seemed obvious. Some rand guy decided to make shit up. Or maybe he was tripping balls on some mushroom he ate and now he believes he saw God and got told to do this and write this book. But to me, it's obvious religion is mad made and entirely fake. Now if you want to beleive in a higher authority and want to think there is a God. Fine. But I hate organized religion and hate those that follow it. Proves to me most people are really dumb.
That’s not proof lol. If a book is all it takes for you to believe something, why not practice Islam? Why not practice any number of other religions with sacred texts?
Do you take all writing as fact?
Is Charlotte's Web proof of talking pigs?
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The anime/Christian crossover no one knew they needed
>puritan christcuck is secretly a massive footfag
Shocking.
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>Ackchually it's subjective, therefore you're not allowed to debate it
What is art, fiscal policy, foreign relations, social subjects, etc?
Christians are so cringe omg
The likes of WLC and Plantinga have been a calamity for popular philosophy
Christian audiences eat that shit up for those exact reasons. You can just speak in riddles and unfalsifiable nonsense and "win" the debate. The atheists are just taking the fucking check, which I would do as well.
none of these debates are about the existence of god it's just debunking or mocking specific religious matters, which are two entirely separate discussions that atheists cannot differentiate
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God is the Cosmos which certainly exists. The Abrahamic spook isn't God.
For FUCKS SAKE theists, your holy book claiming it is true and divinely inspired (in its own pages) IS NOT AN ARGUMENT.
PLEASE use an argument that is in some way reasonable, you aren't going to convince anyone and it frankly makes you look like a retard to pick that hill to die on. We get it, youre a true believer, those of us who are skeptical are not going to be won over with
"The Bible is true and authored by God." (A belief, which is OK)
>but bro how can you know that
"Because the Bible says so, so there." (Not even close to an argument)
Try harder guys this is embarrassing
The "theist" ITT is trolling, bro
Fair enough I am that gullible sometimes
The 'theist' is pretty typical of all christcucks tho.
Anon I genuinely forgive you, and understand why you would think that.
But spend enough time talking to these people, offline and face-to-face, and you will quickly realise that even the most bizzare, obvious trolls are indistinguishable from the genuine believers.
Yeah, bro. It's just trolling. Sure...
>but that's not a reasonable argument!
And what makes you think an argument has to be reasonable?
really